One night, someone called 911 and said a woman had threatened her boyfriend and them with a knife. The caller didn't share their name and wasn't at the scene. [Music] >> Hi, my name is Deputy Abbott. I'm with the Sher County Sheriff's Office. We got a 911 call about some some yelling, some stuff that was happening here. Is anything going on? >> Uh, not here, but hold on a minute. Come on in. Let me check on my granddaughter in the back back there. >> Okay, awesome. >> She's in the She's in the back room. >> She's in the back room. >> If you want to walk around the side of the house, there's a door back there. >> Okay. >> I don't know what the stuff is. I don't know. >> Okay. >> I have no idea. >> And the only way to get there is around. >> Right back there on that side right there. >> Okay. Awesome. Thank you guys. No problem. >> What's your I'm sorry. What's your granddaughter's name? >> Lacy. >> Lacy. What's her last name? >> Callahan. >> Callahan. >> Uhhuh. >> Okay. And is your name? >> Brenda. Sapovity. >> Sapovity. Brenda and >> Roman. >> We here and she lives with me, but she stays in the back room back there. >> Okay. Thank you so much, guys. >> My name is Tiffany. I'm with the Cherokee County Sheriff's Office. I got a call that some yelling, screaming was happening over here. What's going We were just yelling, screaming, kind of just having a big old >> Yeah. Sorry. Me and him were getting into it. >> Okay. Um, do you mind if we chat with you guys for a minute? >> For sure. Awesome. >> Out there. >> We're just getting into it. We got into an argument and over his ex-girlfriend. >> Over his ex-girlfriend. >> Yeah. >> Awesome. Do you mind setting your stuff down real quick? >> Oh, yeah. >> Can I call my grandma? >> Uh, she knows we're here. I chatted with her first. >> Okay. >> Yep. Can I pat you down real quick for any weapons? Anything like that? Awesome. Cool. Thank you. >> So, you mind facing that way for me? Just makes it a little easier on me. >> Sorry. >> Thank you so much. You said you were guys were arguing about um >> just like Well, just now. Yeah. Like it just started about his ex-girlfriend. Yeah. So, was there anything like did he touch you? Did you touch him? Anything like that happened? >> So, explain to me about the fight. Like what? >> We were just arguing. We've been arguing all day. But it's like not bad. We're together. So, it's just like little couple arguments. >> Couple arguments. Like was he texting her, talking to her or doing? >> His friend is with her >> and his friend was just talking some His friend was talking some junk and I was going back and forth with her and that's how me and him got into it because he was sticking up for her. >> Oh, cuz he was sticking up for her instead of sticking up for you. >> Yeah, that happens. I can understand. That would really frustrate me, too. Um, what's his ex-girlfriend's name? >> Desi. >> Desi. >> Yeah. >> And has he spoken to her? I know you said he was defending her. Has he spoken to her recently? Oh, is that her? >> Yeah, that's her calling now. >> Okay. So, has this been like an ongoing or just like a one time now kind of issue? >> Yeah, cuz he's with his friend. She's dating his friend. >> So, they're together. >> Yeah. >> And so, are the friend and the ex-girlfriend arguing? >> No, just him and me. >> Just him and you. >> Yeah. Okay, that makes a little bit of sense. Um, >> sorry. We cleaned my room today. >> No, it's all good. Here, if you don't mind, let's go ahead and step. Can we step over those bricks that way for me? >> Sure. >> Oh, there's just a bunch of stuff there. I don't want to fall. I don't want you to fall. Nothing like that to happen. >> Over that hill coming out here. >> This other girl, >> ma'am. I mean, sir, >> there's this other girl. >> That's my cousin. >> That's your cousin. Does she live here, too? >> No, she just came for the weekend. >> So, >> she been witnessing an argument? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, there you also live here. >> Does he also live here? No, ma'am. >> So, he's just visiting? Yes, ma'am. So, >> oh my goodness, this is >> Oh, that's fire. That's not us. >> Leave the door open. Smells like weed. Back away from me. >> Ma'am, I need you to come over here for me. Lucy, use well. Let's stay over here. >> Okay. >> Yep. >> Don't go inside though cuz you don't have a warrant. I'm going to need all y'all badges now. >> I understand the law. Okay. >> I know. Me too. I need all y'all badges. Can we go inside? >> Can Can we stay over here? Can we go inside? We're going to stay out here. We're going to stay right here, right? Right now, we're staying right here. >> Go get her that they're trying to crush my room. >> Stay here. We're not going in there. >> Don't knock me over. >> We're not going in there anymore. >> This is ridiculous. >> This is ridiculous. >> Stay here. Stay here. >> Because there's a way through this. >> I understand that, but y'all are freaking me the out. Y'all are y'all This is ridiculous. Who's yelling? >> We got called here because somebody is threatening to somebody >> his ex-girlfriend. >> Who trying to stab nobody? Nobody. >> Your friend. >> Close the door. >> We're staying. We're staying out of here. >> Arrest, bro. They're going to arrest you, bro. >> You have no probable cause. Close the door. >> All right. What's fixing to happen if we don't calm down, okay? Is we're going to detain everybody. But I don't want to do that. >> Y'all have no reason to be getting bad number. Give me your badge number. Give it to me now. >> Give it to me now. Badge number. >> Step over here. Step over here. Give me your badge. I will give you my badge. >> Get the I will go to me now. >> Badge ID number. >> Okay. I will give it to you. Can we step? Can we step over here? >> Yes. >> What's your name? >> My name is Deputy Abbott. I'm with the Cherokee County Sheriff's Office. >> Yes. >> Let her go. >> Nuh-uh. We're not getting involved in that. Okay. We're not getting involved with that. I'm putting you in handcuffs as well. >> You have no reason, ma'am. You know, we're not we're not doing this right now. >> No reason to get the off. You have no reason to arrest her. >> Probable cause. Probable cause. You have no reason. >> Get the off of me. Get the >> Turn over. Turn over. >> No. Get the off of me. >> No, I'm not. >> Get the off. >> No. >> Come on. Give us your other arm. Give us your other arm. >> Get the off of me. >> Give me your other arm. >> Give us your other arm. >> No. Oh, >> get the off of me. >> Okay, >> you have no reason. None. None. >> Call your supervisor. Call your supervisor now. >> No. >> Yep. >> Don't you get the off, you dumb. Get the arm. Give us your arm. >> No. >> You have no probable cause. Y'all, >> get the off me. >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> Call 10:15. >> Get the off. >> Get me off the ground. >> Give me the >> What y'all need? Four, >> Jackson, you done. >> She bites you off the ground. >> You don't have probable cause. Get me off the ground. >> Okay, we want to double and lock your cuffs so they don't hurt you. Stay still. >> Don't you don't. You have no reason. Don't. >> Okay. Oh my god. >> Oh my. >> You got both sides. >> Let me up. >> Cool. Yep. We're getting you up. >> Let me up. >> Pick my phone up. >> Pick my phone up now. Now >> we'll get it >> now. Now. Now. >> Keep walking. Keep walking. >> Oh, y'all don't have trouble because pick it up now. No. Y'all if y'all don't have probable cause >> get off of me. >> Come on. Keep walking. >> You don't have probable cause. >> Keep walking. >> Go get my phone. >> We will get it. Keep walking >> now. Get it. >> No, we're walking now. >> No, we're walking now. >> Get it now. >> Don't be stupid. >> Get it now. >> Keep walking. Stay on the ground, kid. >> Figure four. Get it now. You >> relax. >> The more you're fighting, the worse this is going to get. >> Relax. >> And you'll still do what y'all do. You'll still do it. >> Are we going to walk now or what? >> We have your phone. >> Dumb. >> We have your phone. >> We have it. Hey, calm down. We will show it to you. Calm down. >> No. Show me now. >> Okay. That's not how this works. >> All right. >> Yes, it is. Let's go. Come on. Up. >> Get out of me. Y'all can't carry me like this. >> Y'all can't. >> Well, we're doing it. >> Oh my god. Stop. >> Y'all are the off dragging me. >> Come on. You're dragging me. >> Get up. >> Get up. >> Let me go. Stop. Just let me stand here for a second. Just let me stand here. >> Please. I'm begging you. Just let me stand here for a second. >> We're not doing that. >> Ma'am, please. >> Sit back. >> I won't move. Please. Just I'm begging you. Please. >> Come on. Stand up. Stand up. >> Stand up. >> Don't touch me. Please, please, please. No. Stop. He's touching me. I asked him. I said, "Please don't touch." >> We're doing that as long as you get in the car. Get in the car. We don't touch you anymore. >> Please. Get in the car >> for a second. Please. >> I'm begging you. I'm asking you. >> Come on. I need you to get in the car. >> If you have >> I need you to get in the car. I need you to get in the car. I don't give a quicker we get this done the better. >> Please just for a second like stop talking for like >> count to 15. Just give me 15 seconds. >> Please just give me 15 seconds. >> Nice friend. >> Stay in the car. >> Get the Lucy. Stay in the off me. >> Lucy in the car. In the car now. I didn't do nothing. >> In the car now. >> Stay in the car. >> Stay in the car. >> Talk to my grandma. >> Stay in the car. >> Like I was running. >> No, >> stay in the car. >> Don't do that. You doing that just because you can >> stay in the car. >> I hope y'all sleep well at night knowing y'all do this. You want to pass me that? That's >> her in the car. >> Hey, get in the car. Let's go in the car. >> Please hold on one second. Did uh they say anything else about >> just sit over there? Yes, sir. >> Absolutely. >> Yep. >> Understand that for my ex-girlfriend. >> So, I'm just telling him what she told me. >> That's all we're doing right now. >> I understand that. And >> so, did she did she physically touch you? >> Her friend Delena, >> she slapped me twice. I don't want to press charges or nothing. It was just an over dramatic thing like where she got too stimulated and >> that's the way she lashed out. >> Do you mind if I flash a light just to make sure any red marks, bruising, anything like that >> right here? >> I don't know if it's gone or not. >> A tiny bit ofness. >> We're just wanted to make sure in case there's any, you know, bruising, abrasion, anything like that. You mind if I touch you real quick? >> No, you're good. >> There's some redness right here. Hope you feel where my finger is. I don't know if that's where she came in contact with you or not. >> No, it was like right here and like right here. But none of it hurt. Nothing. I don't want to press charges on none of them. I mean, >> I think all of this is just very stupid. >> Mhm. >> Can't have a simple conversation. >> No, I completely understand. Make any threatening movements, anything like that? >> Not that I remember. No, nothing threatening. >> Mhm. Nothing that would make you feel like you were going to receive harm of any kind. [Music] >> Nothing like that. Nothing said again. I'm just reasking to make sure nothing was said. It's >> kind of cold out here. I'm shaking. >> No, I understand. Hey, it's a very high tense situation right now, right? >> She opened the door. I told her I wasn't going to leave cuz I wanted to grab all of my other stuff which is still in the in the house. >> Yeah. >> And so she said, "Get the out." I said, "No." And she started raising her for her voice more. >> I was just like, "No, I'm still trying to grab my stuff or whatnot." And then so I had grabbed her wrist. I moved it and that's about it. That's I didn't >> That's all the kind of I didn't like Nothing Uber. >> I had ordered an Uber. >> Is that it? Is this the other one or is this a prince? >> Hey everyone, it's Trent, prior deputy sheriff, patrol sergeant and canine handler. Sometimes when we get calls in law enforcement, we are provided bad information, minimal information, information that's completely fabricated or not entirely true. So when we show up to these scenes, we kind of just have to do the best with the information we are provided and try to investigate it and figure out what's going on. So in this situation here, you just need to talk to these two girls, the guy that's there, everybody involved in the situation at that location, and then maybe recont via telephone the reporting party, the person that had called this in to begin with and see what is actually going on with this knife situation. But it almost sounds like it was not as reported. No egregious crimes actually occurred. There was nobody that got stabbed or threatened with a knife. There was no domestic violence or anything like that. And these two girls were being very cooperative upfront when this initially transpired. Now, that one girl that's screaming the entire time about probable cause, badge numbers, and supervisors, she actually is correct regarding that warrant situation where they are under the impression these cops are going to go into their residence to search through it. She is correct. They would need a warrant in this circumstance in order to do that. They can't just go in there and start searching through their belongings. There is no exigency. That being said, screaming and demanding for a badge number and a supervisor is never going to get anybody anywhere. It never has and it never will. Just because somebody demands a supervisor doesn't mean that as a cop you have to get your supervisor to the scene. It's also not going to do you any good. And the badge number situation is also silly because what are you going to do with that information on scene? You're not going to do anything with it. also the badge number and the officer's name. All these officers, their information is going to be in the report and that will be made available to you or to these people in this situation. And it didn't even look like this officer was going in to search the room. He asked her if he could go inside. She said no. And then he was kind of just standing in the doorway in the threshold. But for whatever reason, these two girls felt that they were going to go inside and search through their stuff. And I'm not entirely sure why they decided to ultimately detain that one girl, Lacy, and put her in handcuffs and then take her to the patrol car. Yes, she was screaming, but she wasn't actively, but it sounds like no crime had been committed up until that point. So, instead of kind of taking her to the side to try to calm her down and explain the situation, these officers on scene, I wasn't there, decided to put her in handcuffs. Once her friend decided to get in the way of that and interrupt and try to interfere, then yeah, she is committing a crime of obstruction, even if placing her friend Lacy in handcuffs as a detainment wasn't the best idea at the time. If officers are going to choose to do that, you still can't interfere with that. But either way, in my opinion, none of this needed to get to that point. And that's going to be it for this one. See you guys in the next one. >> The girlfriend was charged with obstruction and simple battery on a law enforcement officer. Her cousin was charged with willful obstruction of law enforcement officers by use of threats or violence and simple battery on a law enforcement officer. [Music] [Music]