How many kids are in the house? Five. Are they all yours? Yep. Looks like there's a liquid on the ground. Is that dog urine? Looks like water. Run all the way down there. This little sticky wet looking stuff. That's my That might be from her or it might be oil. I walk in the house. As soon as I walk in, I'm smack in the face by odors I can't describe. That's one of the worst smelling things I've ever smelled walking into a house. On September 27th, 2024, officers responded to a call about a 2-year-old toddler found wandering alone in the street in Palm Coast. leading deputies to a home on Barley Lane with deplorable living conditions. The Flaggler County Sheriff's Office discovered five children aged 2 to 16 living amidst urine, feces, rotting food, and accessible knives with the father unable to explain the hazardous environment as reported by a grocery delivery driver who alerted authorities. All right, we got a call about a kid walking around in the road or something other. Uh, must have been my son. Where's he at? A couple minutes. He's inside. I see him. Yep. Is there a reason he's walking around unattended? Uh, no. He had gotten outside. I was letting the garage door air out. He woke up and walked out. And that's where I had initially found him to bring him back in. That would be this little gadget. Okay. Uh, is there child locks in the garage or? Um, not on the door that goes out. No, I have the child locks basically on this one. So they can't make it outside from this room. How many kids are in the house? So that was legit just my bad for not realizing he had woken up and he looks out there for me cuz I usually hang out in the garage. How many kids are in the house? Uh I don't. Five. Are they all yours? Yeah. Okay. Is it just you that watches them? Uh no. It's me and whoever's home for me, my roommate, and u my mom. Okay. Do you know the two oldest? Okay. Do you know how long he was walking around outside? Not even like a few minutes if anything, but he he'll venture out to, you know, as far as the end of the driveway and back. Okay. Yeah, we got a call. Someone saw him walking around. It's probably the same exact time as I found him to bring him in. Looks like there's a liquid on the ground. Is that dog urine? Um, looks like water. Water? Yeah, cuz I got a water bottle right there. What about all the way down there? It's little sticky wet looking stuff. There's my water. That's my That might be from her or it might be oil. Uh they had an oil spill. I got to get my flat floors mopped up today. Come on. Okay. Come on. Go. All right. I'll be right back. All right. Hello, Deputy Dorsy. Are you the only adult here? Uh no. There's another adult here. Yes, sir. Where are they at? Uh he's back in his room with my uh son right now. Okay. Um and who is he to you? Mhm. Who is like who is a relation? Roommate. Yeah. Okay. How many kids live here? There's five here. Are they all your kids or Okay. How old are they? Uh we go from two all the way up to uh 16. 2 to 16. 2 4 uh 8 for or 15 and 16. Okay. Where's the uh like the mother of the kids at? Uh work right now. Work. But she lives here too. Yes. Okay. That's what I that's what I was trying to check. Um, I know he kind of walked around, but could I could we see all the kids? Yeah. Me, huh? Me? Oh, you're you're the stepdad. Step dad to all what? At least. All right. So, as far as technicalities go, I'm stepdad to three out of the five. 214 by two of the five. Okay. But I have names and claim on all of them. Okay. Would you say I missed that? What's the relationship here? I have names and claims on all but one inside, please, sir. So, they're all related to you by blood. No, three of them are step. Only two techn three are stepchildren. So, three would technically be stepchildren and two are related to two of them have my last name. So, I'm on the birth certificate as the father. Which three of the steps? Um, that would be Aiden, the 8-year-old, Eric, the youngest, and then Michael. Okay. And where are their birth fathers at? just out on the ether. You got better chance of getting that info off a mama. I was just curious. I don't even know if she does. Okay. Um, so how did it go about that we end up here because a child unattended and walking up to random car trying to get in? He woke up to me having a garage door open trying to air out my garage. He likes to go out there, like I said, to this gentleman because I usually hang out either there or my back porch to smoke my cigarettes. Mhm. Where were you when he walked out? When he walked out initially, I was probably in the room with uncle cuz we were in the back sitting around talking. How were you? How were you alerted to him being outside? I came out, looked, didn't find him in the bed, came out here, looked right off rip. How long did it take before you found him? Not even five minutes. Not even five minutes. I miss five minutes is a long time for an ear to be out. Me in general when I went to go see him. Not on that. Oh, two two minutes or so, give or take from the there to out here. It's like the first place I checked. And where was he? Where was he when he came out here? Walking his way from like right here in. So, I mean, I don't doubt that he went out there, but it he was definitely not. Yeah, he opened the garage door. No problem. No. No. He attempted to get into a stranger's car. Stranger's car? Yeah, that's that's what we got called. They they called about a 2-year-old trying to get in their vehicle. So, had that not been a concerned citizen and had that been some pedto up the street? Yeah. He'd be [ __ ] Yeah. So would that kid. Can he swim? Uh he hasn't been caught yet. Okay. Not exactly. Where does he where was he napping at that you said he was you say he was napping? He was napping in my room. my room originally. That the room on the right over there up on the bed. So, do you have a like a a crib or anything or No, no crib. You said the garage door is not child locked. No, the garage door is not, but apparently I'm getting ready to install the motion monitor I got out here. So, I know when you have the lock system on the residence. No, your camera set up. No, I'd have to set all that up myself. That's why the the next device I can put in for that would be the motion detector. And yeah, this car. Yes. They see the doctor regularly. And yes, you take him this far. Yes. And I I cuz looking at this house, it hasn't been cleaned up in at least 2 or 3 days at being generous. Being generous. Um usually it gets to that point, but it was supposed to be to my knowledge cuz I was not supposed to be home today. stuff at work. But I'm not asking I understand it's not your responsibility. It's like it's like it gets 2 to 3 days. Every 2 to 3 days it's cleaned up. Yeah, it it gets picked up but usually it'll be easier. Who's is it the dog and cat? That belongs to Mr. Carter. Or is it your dog and cat? No, no, no, no. The cat is the girls. The dogs is his. Okay. So, and there's fecal matter and urine scattered about the house and that's cleaned up every two to three days. Usually when we see that it will be picked up. So, if there was any done today, that's should have been done today, but as soon as I see them, I usually I'll pick it up when I walk through. I already walk through the house because the dog don't like me. How How long you been staying here? uh with them going on I think two years now. I'm two years now. I understand none of these kids are yours, right? No. Okay. So, outside looking in, obviously this is not your responsibility. You're not the parent. Outside looking in, how would you describe the living conditions here? If you would have just walked into this house just like we did, never been ever having been here before, seeing urine, feal matter, roaches, food on the ground, oils, weird smells, kids with cavities, kids wandering about. How would you describe those living conditions as a reasonable prudent person? Not too well, right? Why are the kids living in these conditions? If I had a straight answer to why there is like not a dynamic, I would. But I don't, you know, I can see parents that don't get together that that don't get along. So off rip, it's kind of a tension. Do they not get along? Not as of lately. No. But they still like share a room and share a bed and stuff like that. Just kind of arguing here and there. Are they married? No, they're not married. Um, she works out of the pair. She works the most. So, he's one home the most. What does he do for work? He is a maintenance guy for McDonald's, but she is a department manager. And now she is getting promoted and at McDonald's. Yes. But she's across town versus he is here. Okay. So he has some more days off. He has what? He has more days off and his homework. Did he work today? No. Please and thank you. You good? He want to go. Bye-bye right now. Oh yeah. All right. So same thing we asked him, you know, obviously I mean I've been here a few times, never gone in the house or anything like that. But um outside looking in, having never been here before, if this were you coming to this house for the first time, you know, having seen feal matter, urine. Yeah, I know. I'm I'm not done talking. Feal matter, urine, roaches, um discarded food on the on the ground, garbage, all these inanimate objects that are could be hurtful, uh odors and oils and all this stuff. Outside looking in, how would you describe those living conditions right now? I'm looking a little dirty. A little dirty. That's that's a little dirty is you spilled some coffee on the rug. That's more than a little dirty. You have you opened up that door. Flies literally came out of that laundry room door. It's an opinionated thing. As far as that would go on what you would consider dirty, what you wouldn't consider multiple piles of feal matter. I I get the I get the feal matter and I get multiple piles as far as that goes. But that that laundry room has been closed since my uh like laundry stuff's been shot. Be be that as it may, the bathroom, the master bedroom, would you say the kids sleep and you sleep with your uh girlfriend or whatever it is, right? There's fecal matter in the closet there, too. There's feal matter in hers that hasn't been cleaned up yet today. And there's no doors on that. There's no doors. And there's flies. Also feal matter in the open living room area where the kids would wander around and be around. Playroom. That's the ones from today that just haven't been cleaned up yet. Why do they not go outside? The dog does go outside. It's usually those are the piles that end up uh prior to waking up. The the point being had prior to waking up it's 7:30 in the morning. Yes. Did you work today? No, I totally didn't work today. I had a bunch of running around to do for things. So the the point being if it's in one room, maybe one little plop, whatever. Like we we go to the house all the time. We understand dogs will be dogs, right? But we see feal matter at several different stages of decomposition throughout the residence, which is disgusting. We see flies all about the residence. I walk in the house, as soon as I walk in, I'm smacked in the face by odors I can't describe. Now, I'm I smell a lot of things every day in law enforcement. That's one of the worst smelling things I've ever smelled walking into a house. I'm telling you, from my training experience in law enforcement, and I smelled dead bodies, that comes pretty close to a dead body. I'm not kidding. So, a little dirty is a I think an understatement here. And then you have you have objects all about the floor that could be a danger to children like which objects? You have toys and ladders and tools. You have wet spots that can be slipped on. I'm slipping and sliding on moving boots walking around the house. Knives sitting on the counter. Knives on the counter. Yes. Like I saw a large butcher knife sitting right there on the counter amongst all the others. Should have [Music] been not sure. Probably my one of my teenagers leaving it up there after using. Additionally, look who a child just walked out of the house. You got You don't have door lock. You don't have child locks on the house. You don't have an alarm. You don't have cameras. You You have no way to monitor or andor secure this residence if you're sleeping. If a child wakes up and decides, I'm just going to go for a walk. Does that make sense? Happened today. Additionally, had again I got to I got to drive this home. Had this child walked up to some pedophile, they would have taken that child and you would have not known for five at least 5 minutes like you said, how far can you drive on Belair in 5 minutes? You can get to 95 and he's out of the county, he's gone forever. We we won't know. We know nothing. I imagine nobody here has cameras or ring cameras. We don't we only have a time frame of when he when he's missing. And also he can't swim and I don't know about around this area but there's plenty of lakes and bodies of water all over Palm Coast. Okay, all over the this this section. So say he would have wandered around, no one would have bounced out. He would have gone to a backyard and slipped found a pool or found a body of water. He can't swim. It happens cuz kids for some reason kids are always tracked the water and they always jump in there and it always ends up one way and 5 minutes of not realizing up at most 5 minutes. I'm not remember it was whether it's 2 minutes, 3 minutes, 4 minutes, whatever it is. That's a very long time thing because I understand five minutes is a long time, but I don't know how long he was. Yeah, we don't need we're trying to work on figuring that out. But still, we're even 30 seconds, bro. Oh, I know. I'm I'm very serious as far as the like them getting out of the house thing. That's why we have the uh dual child lock thing for that door because that door was the issue. But like I said, this one I usually have closed. So out in the garage isn't like as much of a Okay. And he's usually hanging around in here, I guess. Yeah, that's why I said that that But look around in here. The point of them coming out into the garage isn't so much the thing for me cuz when this thing's closed, that's Look, look around your garage. Is this somewhere you want a 2-year-old to be gallivanting? Oh, no. They touch my tools and everything gosh darn all the gosh darn time out there or not. Okay. Well, stand by. We got to talk about some things and we'll be right back. All right. Hello. How are you? Hi. I'm sorry to Bobby. I know you're out making money or whatever the case may be. Yeah. Yeah. Can you just walk me through uh what what happened while you called? We delivered to that house right there. As soon as I opened my door, the baby was trying to open my back door. Where was the baby at? In that driveway across the street. Okay. So, I was just like he after I opened my door, I was like, "Where did you come from?" And he obviously doesn't speak any at all yet. So, I was just like, "Where's home?" I said, "You better go home." and he started walking right to that garage. So I followed him there and I just said something like hello like no one was in there and then I went to finish the delivery across the street and asked them about it and they just kind of seemed like they didn't want to get involved type deal. So I was like that's kind of weird and they didn't know anything about I was like are the parents home at all? They're like I don't know. So I walked back out and he was back across the street already. So I walked him back two more times before he walked he walked back over there. Mhm. Two times. Wow. So for the babies that small just and I felt bad leaving, but I just couldn't stay and I don't know. I just felt Yeah. I'm glad I called. How How long roughly would you say that you were at? I was here at least 10 minutes. 10 minutes? Yeah. Sir, can I ask for what? Don't tense up on me. Stop tensing. Stop tensing. Okay. I want to know for what? We'll explain to you. Can I get the explanation for I want to cut? No. Nope. Why? Because people do crazy things. You're not trying to do crazy things. You're being detained for foul neglect. Delta 224 at risky massacre. So what's happening here? Conducting investigation. Do I get mama to come home or what? We'll get that part. We could call a lot of people now. GF mother and a little bit. I can't explain everything to them. Sorry. What's leading to this? The culmination of the investigation conducted at this point. Total circumstances. Okay. So, right now we have a child for several minutes. Okay. At which point you were completely unaware that that's why I put them at risk. You know, you have five children. So, you know how children work. You have children as old as 15. Okay. So, you should know to have child locks and safety things in place to prevent children from getting outside or injury. Okay. You don't have any child lock on a garage door. All that right now because I'm living I'm explaining to you exactly everything we've observed. You know, you know child lock the front door, but you didn't try lock the garage door. Garage also has garage has never been an issue with anybody saying anything about it. Can I finish talking? You have children. So, you know how children move. You know children are you know what happens when they grow up. They finish how to open doors. Okay. First of all, your garage already is a safety hazard as is with all the stuff you have scuted about, which is fine. That's how garages are. But still, you have nothing put in place to prevent the child from getting in that garage. On top of that, you left the outside garage door open, at which point you were completely unaware that the child exited the residence and was outside for several minutes without your knowledge, and you only located him walking back inside on his own accord. Okay. On top of that, the living conditions inside are deplorable. There's feces everywhere. It's food. There's spewed about there's oils. There's urine. Things that are clearly older than just a day. Clearly just than just waking up. Okay. They're like I told you 2 days old at most. Dude, that does not look 2 days old. Respectfully. 2 days old at most. I told you the only thing that is not 2 days old at most. Alisa, I'm just explaining to you what we observed as far as you asked what led to this. Okay. You able to get that or no? You already uh we'll talk to you a little bit more. Uh I got to go talk to your roommate if you want to talk to him. Turn the camera off. How did the AC blow for you? I'm going all the way in. Yeah. [Music] And I imagine having five kids is a lot and it's hard and all that, but I mean it's it's all that it comes down to for the most part. I lost him for like a matter of two couple seconds. I get that's all it takes, but it's not an easy thing to sit there and make sure you're doing everything for all of them all the time. Yeah, it's hard to, but that's your job as the parent. And I know and I'm working on it and we've been working on it since, you know, the conditions over at 72. We've been trying on that trying to get everything, you know, I don't know anything about that case. I don't know exactly what the conditions were like. I don't know what the house was like, but you're already aware of a specific I I I get that, but like I said, they never had mentioned the door or anything else to the garage as far as like anything went for for that. What about cleanliness? General cleanliness. I understand. Dirty kids being dirty. General cleanliness sometimes here and there was an issue. We've been working on it. Like I said, it's just been a couple days since we last picked up. As far as that goes, the laundry room. And look, look, if it was just some clothes screwed about, some kids toys, a couple dishes. Like I said, the kitchen from head to toe was covered in dishes. All the counters, there's multiple knives. Okay. The the the kitchen the left side's all clean. Now it is not when we first showed up. Yeah. But when we first showed it was not. Yes. The left anything on that left side is clean. It's clean, dirty, clean dishes. And then taking that outside the rest of the counters, the right side, the other 80% of countertop space and the sink. There's the knives. That's a risk of children things, but like I said, that's that could have been my teenagers and I wasn't even aware of it. Well, you still it's your responsibility to have that. You were home all day, so it's your responsibility to see that and recognize that and take care of that. That's issues that we're having right now. We're trying to figure out. I I get it, but I don't see the full detainment cuz of like I said, I've had these issues before and they've asked me to fix the things and I've fixed the things. Yeah. And now you're in a new house and it looks like it's starting again. No, definitely not. I mean, it's been a trouble here and there keeping up with things. And I mean, it still might be not to par for you guys, but I've been able to keep this place 10 times better than I've been able to keep anything else for 72 and whatnot. That's why I, you know, I'm not trying to argue with you guys. I I understand that. And better is good, but even even better than what it was, it's still a certain standard the kids have to be in. And I know we're still working on it. And like I said, if it was just all some dishes, some old from earlier, some clothes, things like that. But when you add in feces, urine, oils, the dirty floors, like that stuff inherently could be dangerous to them. That's my cleanup routine is we usually let the kids get to bed and then we clean all the messes that are there throughout the day. Then why that happened yesterday? Uh yesterday it did not happen because basically I had work nighttime and came home. Okay. So this was my first day off. This is the first day to start getting my house clean up again through like throughout the week. What about the day before that? Day prior to that it's working. Okay. And then it was uh like I said the two days would have been the last day we cleaned this place was uh what was it? Uh my day off. Tuesday or Wednesday this was cleaned. What is your uh typical work schedule? Mine morning and night. Like how many times a week do you usually work? What time? Four days a week right now with three days off. I usually have two day f Tuesday, Friday, Saturday off which is all my get the house cleaned up, everything. And what are your hours on uh um what is it? Monday I do truck. So Sunday is my morning shift from 5:00 a.m. to 1. And then I do truck from 4:00 to like 10 to 11:00 on the next day and then it's off and then it's morning 5 to 1 and then so it's Monday 5 to 1 and then Tuesday you work at night. Yes. Okay. So you and then it's uh Wednesday I work in the morning and Thursday I work at night. Okay. All right. Um what about uh Tiffany? Uh she's all night time. How many days a week? Uh, depends this week. She can do from 5 to 6. Depends on the week. She's guaranteed at least a five, but she's been doing a lot more hours as of late because what are her hours usually? Um, they've been changing. She's got some where she's doing morning shifts now from like 8:00 to 4:00 and then she's got some night shifts that she's not closing completely, but she'll work from like 4:00 on to close. Okay. you the room mentioned she's up she's up for a promotion soon of sort yeah she's getting more that's that's what's killing me because I'm left with everything here okay so if I end up on a day where you know I don't feel like doing a whole heck of a lot I'll get the next day cuz I have the day off and that's what you guys ran into today my vehicle matters all from today aside from like I said that How often do the dogs go out in the backyard to use the bathroom or walk around? She goes out. Oh, six to eight times. At least six, eight times a day. Yep. Who takes her out? I do. How many times you take her out today? Uh, she's been out at least six today. I got to let her out a couple more times tonight. How old is the dog? Uh, she's not even a year. How long has had her entire life? Um, no. I mean, she was kind of a little puppy, but I would have had to guess like a couple months. Okay. Two, three months old. Zero training on her. Um, they want said she was crate trained. She wasn't crate trained. I'm having a heck of a time dealing with the dog. Mama wants the dog. I didn't really want the dog in here cuz it's more work on top of the kids. But at the same time, they all love the fact of having a pet. Yep. So, I mean, I put more work on for myself and probably just a little behind on things more than anything. Give me a few minutes. Okay. No problem. Um, after she did that, she called us to let us know that she found a random 2-year-old just walking in the middle of the street. So, we come here, make contact. That's your husband. Correct. No. Father. Father of kids. He's the father of the He's the father of the kids. Okay. We are not together. Okay. So, either way, um, I I apologize for that. father of the children. It's not your fault. You're you're okay, right? I just No, we're not together. We just try to make ends meet for the sake. So, um somehow whatever he, you know, um my partners get here, they talk to him and they're like, "Hey, you know, we got this report of the child being out walking the street. Do you mind if we come in and just, you know, make sure the kids are okay and make sure, you know, everything's all right?" And he says, "Yes." They go inside. You live here. You know how these living conditions are deplorable. They're not okay. They're not okay for any child, any adult to live in. There's no AC for a week. There's poop on the floor. We've been trying No, we've been trying to work on it and we've been talking to the land and everything like that. The AC part is is not the the biggest thing, but the feces and the urine on the floor and the food everywhere, that is is not okay. So, he's going to jail. Um, and to be 100% honest, like we're we will be forwarding charges as the mother on you. So, the state will be able we're not going to take you to jail or anything like that, but the state will determine if they want to pursue charge against you or not. Cuz I understand you work all the time, but you can't just leave your kids in a house that's this deplorable. You have to make sure that you maintain a safe household for the children as well. And they do. No, that is not a safe and secure household. having feces on the floor, having urine on the floor, just I mean just food everywhere. It's completely like the Have you been inside there lately? Cuz I just walked through there after it was cleaned up and it's still really bad. Cuz when the father of the children realized that, you know, it's now not just a welfare check, like this is not okay. He had the children start to pick up, but even after them picking up, it's still disgusting in there. It's not okay. We've called DCF. DCF is doing an immediate response. Okay. Um now whether whatever they decide to do, they might do a parenting plan or a safety plan or how whatever they decide to do with them, but and I get and I understand what you're saying. I was helping them pick up a little bit today before I had to leave for work. Right. But there's literally like I don't know if it's cat poop or dog poop in in the laundry room right by the pile of clothes. There was poop in the in the living room yesterday. There's urine everywhere. It's It's not yesterday. This is like old. How long you lived here for, man? How long have you lived here? We've lived here for about what? 3 years. Three years. Okay. It's been 3 years. Three years. Something like that. How old is your oldest kid? 16. Okay. And your youngest is two. And you have five of them? Yes. So, you know how to raise children? Yes. You know that as they're getting older, they get into certain things that open doors, things like that. Yes. Okay. Do you have a child lock on your front door? Yes, I do. You have child lock on the rear slider? Um because usually the garage get taken out to use the bathroom? Yes. I let them out anytime I'm home. I swear you. Okay. When you left this morning, was there any dog poop anywhere in the house? Nowhere. No. Okay. So, why is there decaying feces in your laundry room? So, does a wash and dryer work? No, it does not. Okay. How do you guys do your laundry? We take it to the laundry mat over here. Okay. There's multiple piles of feces in that in that room. What about the uh open living room? Playroom area. The playroom. That big open space right you walk in the front door. The playroom? Yeah. There wasn't anything there when you Well, when I showed up, there's multiple piles of PCs. There's urine on the floor and a large oil stain that he said has been there for a while. What is what's with the oil stain? Oil. Oil. There's oil sitting on the floor. There's water. There's urine and pieces. I didn't know that there was oil on the floor. And then we walked inside the entire countertop. Every single inch of counter top was filled with dirty dishes. There were knives left unattended. There was food on the floor spilled everywhere. Taco Bell everywhere on the floor. They just ordered Taco Bell tonight. Did you guys not? I was at work at this point. Right. And it's not it's not just it's the totality of everything. So again like we understand you're the main bread winner. You work all the time. We understand that but apparently a lot of things are going to but as right as a parent like you still have that responsibility to make sure that whoever is left in control of the children gets it handled. And you guys arrested the other parent that I left in control. That's why he's going to jail and you're not. So, I understand you're working, but you also can't turn a blind eye to what's going on. And then even with the children, you've got two teenagers. So, whether you say, "Hey, you guys go clean this up or you need to clean the kitchen today, right? But you're not holding them to it and you're not making sure that it gets done as a parent, whether you delegate the work or you do it yourself." Still your responsibility, right? So, whether you know if they're not getting it done, then you need to get on them. Hey, look, you know, you don't have to clean the whole house, but like you need to clean the living room this day. You need to clean whatever that day or get on that like. Yeah. No. See, that's what you guys don't know again. But again, I didn't know that I could simply call you guys to have it documented because I have recordings on my phone how fights go. There is no conversation. Me talking to you guys is a conversation. Me talking to him is a yelling match and being told that I don't care about them. Being told that I'm basically a piece of [ __ ] He's a narcissist. And I'm not saying that just to say it. I'm not trying to make him look like the bad guy, but he is a narcissist, right? So, and and I'm not trying to seem like coldarted, but if you know all this and you know that he's this type of person and you just keep him around and he doesn't benefit you or the children in any way because I didn't know where to turn because I'm not trying to lose. Right. But you've been with DCF before so you know there's resources. You've talked to them before. You've had them in your life before. You know they have resources. Yes. And they've been through all that too. He's a witness, right? But I'm saying down, but even now like you know there's resources out there and you don't choose to even call to ask. That's what I'm getting at. Like you say he's a narcissist and it starts a fight, but you don't want to call law enforcement when there's an argument between you and the father of the children. You say you know there's resources but you don't call them to ask for help. Because last time I have done anything to call and ask for help, I was turned down. Even before that, I had a case worker at the time, too. Everything's in all the documents from court and everything. I was turned down left and right. So, I'm sorry if Yeah, I'm terrified to call you guys. Yeah, I'm terrified to call DCF because of being turned down and feeling like there's no help. Well, hopefully after today you'll have a different experience with getting some. I hope so. Like I really do because it's not healthy for my kids. It's not healthy for me. Can I ask what has caused the living arrangements for you guys to be living together when you're not in a relationship? Because you're the primary breadwinner of the family. He doesn't work. He does work. He does work. He doesn't work as much as he did before. Are you guys financially dependent on each other? Sadly. And that's the reason you work together? That's the only reason. But me and Aaron here have been trying to work things out since me and him both now make more money. Mhm. To try to get things changed. Yeah. I was trying to honestly get out of here with my kids so I could set forth everything else. Okay. But now that I know that when stuff like this, not like this, this, but arguments and stuff that happened that I could call you guys and have stuff documented. I mean, each incident's different, so I can't tell you like it'll be it might be documented. There might be an arrest made, there might be like, who knows? So each each call you guys and there's going to be some type of documentation. Mhm. Have you heard of the family life center? Yes. The man was charged with child neglect without great bodily harm following his arrest and booked into the sheriff Perry Hall inmate detention facility. His bond was set at $4,000 with no information provided on whether he posted it. Want to watch more videos like this one? Click the one on the screen