Adams County Sheriff's. Hello. This is Elena. Hi. Can you hear me? Yeah, I can hear you. My neighbors to the west of me. Okay. Um I standing out on my porch with my son-in-law and they shot like right towards our cars. They did what? Shot a gun. I sounded like a plet gun or a 22 right towards our cars while we were standing right out there. Okay. Towards Okay, stay on the phone here with me. Hold on. I heard it ping off of things in like the trees. Stay with me. I don't bother these people at all. I'm going to get other people here. I'm just trying to get an officer headed that way. And my my dog's upset because he don't know my son-in-law. No. Okay. Okay. So, everybody, you as far as your family or whatever, we're all in the house now. All in the house. Stay stay in the house until I get the deputies out there. Um, do you know their names? The people's names. I will I just stay in the house. If anything changes, call me back on 911, but try to stay away from windows and in a safe spot in the house. Okay. Until they get there. Okay. Thank you. Uh-huh. So great. What is going on? Standing up here having a cigarette. Okay. And they're in the garage and we could hear either a pellet cut or a 22 and it just ping ping ping and hit something over here and then they shot towards the back too. I didn't go back and look at anything back there. I went in the house. Where's your property line about the mowing line? Yes. Give or take. And it goes just straight parallel the whole way. It doesn't Is anybody over there? Did anybody leave? I don't know. We went in the house cuz then they told me to stay in until you guys got here. You haven't seen anybody like get in the vehicle and leave though. No. Okay. And his name is Mark. Scared. Sure. What if my son would have been out here with the dog? Yeah. Yeah. A lot of a lot of whatifs that puts yourself in danger. I don't know what the bullet hit. Okay. But we heard it go ping. So it was a a lighter caliber like even where it was a possibility of a pellet gun, BB gun type. It was definitely shot towards this way. Okay. Um, did it sound like it hit the side of a vehicle or maybe like metal out here with me? That's my son-in-law. And your neighbor's name is Mark. Yes. Okay. Do you know anybody else that's over there with him? I don't know the other guy's name. Yeah. Looks like they're just sitting by their garage door around a table. So, we'll go talk with him in a minute. I guess my my main concern is like, yeah, not only for our safety as we'll go walking down his driveway in a second here, but do you do you own guns or shoot guns? Do you know the difference between a a 20 small caliber? I have guns. Yeah. So, I mean, yeah, the your your ear knows the difference between it was either something smaller or a 22. Okay. I maybe more like a pellet gun, but I I think it the the second shot I heard back here sounded a little louder or something like How many shots did you hear? Two. Two total. Then we went in. Then he went inside and called. Well, I think the best thing we can do now is go see what in the world's going on with them and we'll share with you what we find out. We'll be back in a few minutes. Thank you. based on their demeanor of sitting in the chairs. I don't think they're too worried about it. We're here for Yeah. another matter now. Unfortunately, um Deputy Liki with Adams County. What What happened? Did people just lose their dogs? I don't know. I don't even know who they belong to right now. You guys care for a beer? Soda. What time is it? I'm still on I'm still on duty for work time. Uh, the dog ran down the road there. You guys ever seeing him no more after that? No, not not the light colored one. So, what's uh why why are we here? What's going on with your neighbor? What's going on? That's my question for you is that she's under the impression some type of firearm is being discharged or a pellet gun is being discharged. Some fireworks with lady fingers. Okay. I had like three in my pocket and that's what blew off. Okay. What are lady fingers? About like a half a cigarette. Okay. Has that guy go boom boom. It sound like a 22 maybe or a little better. So a little more louder. Yeah. We're just screwing around and well it was a chipmunk screwing around here and we're just screwing around. I lit it and I flinged it and that was it. Do you have any more left? No. blew up or else they still be I believe it was he was down on well I did some work with the police department too he was down here for I don't know quite a few years and then he left I bet he left now about five or six years ago I think he went up in northern Wisconsin kind of the east side you know who I'm talking about Joe huh Joe yeah Joe okay is he still up there what happened now he's I think he's in Clintonville Now I got Clintonville. Huh? Clintonville. Well, then he's not where he went when he left here. No. Okay. So, you guys wouldn't have been shooting the 22. That's sits sitting right there. He's asking you about a 22 sitting there. There's one laying right across the bench right behind him. Yeah. Yeah. I got it. Yeah. But so you guys weren't shooting that? No. told you I blew up some lady firecrackers about the size like that. Where did you throw those at when you I just threw them in there and they blow the wind blows it away and what the hell? No. Why do I lie to you guys? I did ever get married? No, didn't think you would. At least not that he's claimed anyway. No, I mean I know the truth. No, but there's there's problems with her and him as a neighbor. Well, okay. It's back and forth. Yeah, it takes two. Zing issues technically issues. Yeah. Who Who's Mark? I mean, which one's Mark? That's you, Mark. Okay. So, where we at? fireworks is working for me. Well, I'm thinking the same thought process through my head is that we're having allegations of the firearm or some type of pellet gun 22 being discharged. You're claiming fireworks and there happens to be and we're just happen to be looking at a gun. A gun sitting 7 ft behind you like that, sir. I don't Why would I lie to you? I have no reason. Well, people lie to me because they don't want to get in trouble. I mean, that's the best answer I can give you. That's true, too. That's That's why you lie to me is you don't I'm not lying. I'm down here with a hat hanging and I'm laughing. We're sitting here drinking and there was some chipmunks right here. I would just throw it. Do you have any more evidence of these fireworks? Do you Do you have a wrapper? Pardon? Do you have a wrapper for them? The outside packaging? Nothing. I had three in my pocket just for the hell of it and from the fourth July and the camel over had a few drinks and he was talking about them uh chippies running around and I just screwing around. We're drinking and just having fun. I mean we didn't affect anybody. We didn't do nothing wrong. I didn't go throwing off by her by her uh house or nothing. How far did you Were you sitting there when you No, I was over here screwing around. The chip is running. I just threw it. I'm sorry. I know. I mean, they blow up. There ain't much left, I tell you. You got two guns. Taser and a gun. Oh, taser and a gun. Yeah. I heard some of the police are going back to 9 millimeter. Are they? That's what we're carrying. Can I step in? Take a just a look at it. But I don't even want to pick it up. He wants to know if he can go look at your gun. Sure. You guys never answered. Did you ever see the other dog or just that wood? Uh, we saw him down the road, but he ran into the woods. Oh, boy. Now, was that somebody lost him that was up here the weekend or something? Who does that belong to? Does that belong to you? Yeah. Do you have a driver's license with you? Sure. May I see it? I used to have them stop at my place over there and I put water out. Different dogs. It happens all the time. People don't realize it. They come up for a weekend, the dog sees a rabbit or something, runs in the woods and gets lost. The shame. So, you've been in a fort? I'm I'm getting getting my time under my belt slowly but surely. Those are time. That's good. I'm glad you're you're taking us up as a more way to live. Mhm. We need somebody young cuz me and him, we can't run for [ __ ] And I'm sure you outrun these guys. You're going to get him in trouble, though. No. What? He's in shape. [ __ ] I sit here. Yep. And I shoot the mouse. I can hardly walk mouse. Mouse. I I heard mouse. And I got a trap. I I might show you picture how many mouse I got it. Okay. From those neighbors, whatever she's called. Well, you know, they just revenge right now. Well, there's mice everywhere this year. I'll tell you that. I know that. But I got it excessive. You know, we we had a mild winter. It was warm out. I called I not called. I sent that letter in March about those animal stinks. And that's what right now I got at revenge. Okay. Whatever you want to do that you do, that's Well, we're we're sifting through it right now. that things. Am I on your way here? No, you're good. Okay. I even show you what I shoot to the mouse with 22 what I see sometimes even you know uh that's what you know I wanted you know about those animal what they standing in that I wanted you know talk with those neighbors about smell. Yep. and they she's you know you know to me okay that's what I last year I talk that's what this year I send the letter to village and I send in my May 25th so May June July it's over two months now they don't do nothing with those minimum so I'm stinks. A lot of people are going to you came right now. It's not stinks right now. But if came the humid day, you know, after rain those animals standing in mud hole and that's what I complain and right now I got a revenge. So So we're still we're we're working our way through why we're here today. Right now. Yeah. Okay. Okay. You do a lot of target practicing when I get the chance. Where is the range where you guys practice now? Someone around here somewhere somewhere around here. I haven't been to it yet. And pretty good shot. May 25th enough good enough to me and him would run. What is that? A 40. They don't do nothing. Nine. So I'm asking if me and him would run. A lot of people are going to right now it's not so if me and him would run good chance you get us right you know well we're pretty junky I can't hear you I told him if you were running good chance you did what we ran I can't run I can walk I saw 122 casing I didn't smell anything fresh but it's weird happens to be it doesn't mean anything either. It does but it doesn't if that makes sense. Yeah. You see where I got it? Mouse steps. Yep. You know I got it down there. mouse there every other two three days I got it mouse you know this is not problem like you say mouse is coming but if I'm shoot with 22 you know right from here you know two mouse so that's what I use it yeah well that was that was another conversation that we were having walking over here is that that was a conversation that we were have walking over here about discharging your 22 at mice and you living in a subdivision technically that you're not allowed to discharge a weapon like that. Oh, I didn't know. I I'm you know. So, while while we're figuring out our enforcement action here, you're not supposed to be shooting that at all. So, you shouldn't be shooting mice with that. I didn't know you know I'm from Poland you know and that's why you know my a lot of things I don't understand you know I'm little deaf I'm don't understand a lot of stuff but for so many years I don't have problem with nobody that you know well I'm gonna I'm gonna squeeze I'm going to squeeze by you and go stand over there you know obviously this is an ongoing Neighbor disagreement. Do you have a driver's license with you? Yes, I do, sir. See it? What's the phone number for you, Mark? 708. There you go, sir. And what's the phone number for you, Ronald? I got to look it up. I don't call myself, sir. Okay. Fair. My phone number is I didn't eat no dinner. up. Well, I don't call myself. But now I just moved up here. I got to find her another spot. I'll run through. Dispatch, you need a zip. I do not. Thank you. Okay. Well, I want to give you everything you want. So crazy, too. It's Hancock, Wisconsin. You try to get when you first move in here, you try to get telephone service. Yep. I gave it to uh Deputy Luther to go give that information to my dispatch. See if I'm a felon or something. Uh no. Wow. You guys are good. So this is the story that that 22 nobody discharged it today. I was shooting off the plane fireworks. I said about the half size of a cigarette. Okay. When was the last time when was the last time that you shot that? Uh 3 4 hours ago. Today. Yeah. Okay. Got my license. Yeah, you can address phone number. If I get stopped and I ain't got a license, I'll be in more trouble with you guys. I don't know if I came closer. Those are ordinance ordinance citations that we've adopted for that. And those are ordinance citations we've adopted for. Yeah. It's 200 bucks, 50 cents. I don't know if I came closer to you. And I I can Yeah, I can hear you. those chickens. This was a market the sherman he was looking on those horses they was standing in a mud hole and that's why I call about stinks. Okay. Then Mark he write to my friend uh email if I'm a nons so if I'm not clear on my land you know right now that's what I got at from my neighbor you know I mean we pull in where by me picking up or going there wondering why you guys are there and you just pull away and don't say hi kiss If you were chasing the dogs with you, okay, so this is what I'm going to do. This is a learning experience and an enforcement decision that we're going to do. You've been explained that you cannot shoot that here. Okay. For how this is a subdivision of the area that you live in. Yeah. And I How did I check? I appre I I appreciate your explanation of shooting mice and everything, but now you know that you can't do that. Okay, I am going to issue a citation for discharging that firearm here. Do not do that anymore. Okay. Firecrackers, lady fingers, whatever they are, do not light those off. They Well, ain't no fire thing, is there? No. No, but you cannot light things legal either. If one one thing at a time, guys, in a subdivision, no, you got the Yep. No. Any firework that leaves the ground or explodes. Yeah. No, it's not light. Okay. It's rifles. Pistols. Gear rifles. Pistols. BB guns. BB gun either. Yeah. Uh crossbow. Yeah. It all that stuff. I'll be there. Basically, if it fires a projectile, crossbow. Now, wait a second. I I got 11 acres and I I I don't hunt no more. I used to I used to go out with the crossbow all the time. But is it a platted subdivision? Huh? Is it a platted subdivision? I don't know. Is this a whole area? I'm I'm down on Well, you guys would drive. Well, we're far enough apart for neighbors, but I I've hunted everybody around me hunts across the street. They do and everything else. I'm just And they hunt with deer rifles. I'm just saying the platted subdivisions are subject to that. I'd have to look at I can get on the county site. Yeah. The the county site you can it will literally show you where all the platted subdivisions are for Adams County. Platted. Platted. Like Plat Book. Familiar with Platbook from years gone by. Yeah. So Plat Book Platted subdivision. Yep. Man, you got to be wondering all the time if that's the case with some of them. What are you going to do? Wow. Well, that's exactly what we're going to do. Some of it's a learning experience and unfortunately some of it's a punitive experience. That's This one's B. So, in other words, if he had a crossbow and he's sitting on his porch cuz he knows there coyotes around and he's got a dog, okay? And a dog goes take a pee or whatever and a coyotes come otherwise he's not allowed to shoot him. Usually what I tell people is that we will cross that bridge if it ever comes to it. I'm not going to tell you how many deer under the under the yard light on a corn pile at night 11 acres damn good deer hunting. Yeah, I haven't hunted for five or six years now, but boy. Yeah, I'm I'm guessing if it's 11 acres, it's not a platted subdivision. Don't give me no ticket for deer hunting. Yeah. So, I'm going to mail that to you. Okay. Mail the citation to USPS. Okay. citation for what? I I have to pay some ticket. Yeah. For discharging that firearm and it will have an explanation letter in the in the mail with it as to what your rights are for the citation to contest it, to pay it, whatever you want to do. I will mail that to you. Okay. Is this address good for you? This is where you receive mail. Yeah. Okay. Yep. Yeah. Thank you. Okay. Yeah. What's a citation for? Discharging that firearm. subdivision and he is going to be able to keep it. We're not taking it with us. Just don't shoot it. They're $200.50. All of our ordinance citations are $200 for fireworks. No, for firearms. Any questions, guys? Any questions? Because you're the one that will primarily deal with us. All right. Thank you very much. Yeah. Thank you. We probably should run that firearm just to make sure. Yeah. the serial. Yeah. Make model in the serial and run it just to make sure. Okay. Otherwise, somebody's going to say, "Why didn't this happen?" No problem at all. Get that document out there. Okay. Yep. So, the M's explanation, whether that's what was happening today or not, is plausible. Were they discharging a firearm over in your direction? You're saying that they did and you're hearing ringing. We're finding empty shell casings as Sergeant Sman was under the impression that they weren't very fresh. His admission was that he fired a shot about 3 or 4 hours ago. So if they fired one recently, we're just not finding the casing of a fresh discharge. So are we doing something about it? home. Yeah, we're we're issuing an ordinance citation and he's been told not to fire it anymore. That Yeah, as you know, we're we're kind of cracking down on the um the discharging of firearms and subdivisions because you can't do it. Then we have an ordinance that Yeah, you can't pellet guns, BB guns, 22s, nothing nothing can be fired. Do you have gloves on you? Yeah. Okay, cuz Yeah, we'll have to handle that with gloves. Otherwise, I'll go get some. So, um, hi honey. You don't look too crisp. Let me see your back. So, that's the enforcement action being taken today. Um, I will get you a victim information form just for our contact. So, you have the case number that was generated from us coming out here. and um not per say that you're a victim, but you called with what their allocations are and that we follow up with a citation issue. You have any questions for me about that? Moving forward, any discharging of what even sounds like a 22 or anything, they can't do it. And from my communication with Mark with them being kind of hard of hearing, hopefully I got my point across because you probably could hear me yelling at him from inside. I had to talk that loud. Well, one flew in and I didn't hear anything and I just thought it was better instead of standing there sweating and listening. It wasn't my none of my business what you were saying today. It's hot. So, I was having to kind of yell at him, but hopefully he got the point across. We're going to go grab some more information off the firearm. Um, but do you have any questions for me? Anything today? Thank you for coming. Let me grab that. I mean, I was Let me grab that information for him. Okay. I was honestly scared. in my area because I know it pinged off of something over here. I don't know what. Did you guys check all all your vehicles yourself? Not until after you guys left and I looked around. Oh, okay. I checked the boat. Make sure there was no hole. I got to I took the boater safety course. Now I got to learn how to use it. Oh, yeah. I'm tired of fishing off a shore. I hear you. Yeah. I I like I like getting out on the water just as everybody else does. Okay. There's my granddaughter's boyfriend. They just came up back from winter, Wisconsin. Hi. I thought we were done, but not yet. Would you mind if we grab the serial number off of your gun? Would you mind if we grab the serial number off of your gun? Is that okay? You guys just don't give up. [Music] I don't even know how much it is. We're a lot of money. Yeah, it's 22. Did that thing have a serial number on it? We found one. I have one just like that about Oh, well, I'm going to be 83. I did it 70 years ago. My dad gave me one just right there. somehow fell down and the cutter ran over it and the barrel was dead. That didn't work. Yeah, I've never seen one like that before. That's That's a new one for me. I am surprised I had a serial lab. I really am. I didn't think they went back that year. All right. Have a good night, guys. Thank you.