Technically that's napping. She doesn't have permission to have kids. >> All children deserve parents, but not all parents deserve [music] children. What is the reason? >> And that one she got my face and did this got mine. >> She me three times, too. >> But with you being an adult, you can't expect a sevenyear-old to give his full attention to a 2-year-old kid. >> Yes, I can. >> It's like if he put his hands on me, I this out. >> He like me when I drive. >> Sheriff's office. >> Hello. Sheriff's Department. Sheriff's office. >> 911 calls in the night. Children's tears and urgent explanations from parents. All of it led the police [music] to step in. >> A family disagreement that seemed simple at first quickly became a challenge for police due to conflicting statements. >> He me my finger. He pushed me down. >> We have a lot of he said, she said right now. That's why we're trying to get video camera. >> I'm just saying. On April 25th, 2024, officers responded to a residential area after reports of a dispute between parents and their child. What began as an argument over a phone turned into a deeper investigation that revealed signs of emotional distress affecting the child's well-being. The situation required immediate police attention. >> So, what were you saying, man? What? Like, what what's the what's the main issue here? So, basically, hold on. I got it. I don't know if it was you or not or somebody else, but the cops were here earlier >> today. >> Yeah. >> Okay. I was here yesterday. Well, the cops were here earlier. >> Yeah. And then they called the cops on us today and told us we had So then we >> Who told you? >> The cops told us cuz they and then they told us and I'm sitting out here. I didn't touch them at all. She came out here talking about give me the phone. I didn't give it to him because I didn't do anything wrong. I kept asking what did I do wrong? She kept trying to take the phone from me. She came out here jacking me up in junk like this, grabbing my neck me and I walked over there by the car to push me on the ground. Then he came went like this, tripped me and slammed me on the ground. We come over here and then in the face three times they seen that's when they seen they seen me getting in my face. Wasn't doing nothing at all. >> Are these your friends or like how do you know these kids? >> Well, I'm I know them. They go to school with me. But they just happened to be dropping balling at all. And then they stopped and asked if I was okay. I told them yeah. And then they just right when we all showed up, they just happened to come circling around again. And then I called them cuz that's who brought it. She called family friend and I told her to come get us again. I'm sorry mean doing this doing all this move like that took me and then he started yelling at when she just pulled up I tried to talk and we was like what we do wrong she came and actually got in my face and almost trying to punch you and I didn't do nothing wrong it was all this happened because of a phone >> literally the only reason we went to is told us to because they've been fighting she pulled her phone in last night before we left she pulled him trying to throw hot grease on trying >> waking up there yeah been waking me up at 2:00 or 3:00 in the morning in the morning. >> They waking me up at 3 doing the same thing like that and it's just getting annoying. I'm stressed out and he just got hurt and I don't know what I'm supposed to do. They saying that we going to Jubie for no reason. >> And then she's trying to say she I her. She's on here grabbing my neck me. I grabbed her hand and went like this to get her hand off. >> The lady that brought y'all back, was she here for office, too? >> She left with her son. They had to go do something. I just text him and told him to come back. I got flagged down by people down the street. They said that y'all saw what happened. >> Yeah, we had when we rolled by. We just see he was out here arguing. >> Which one? >> The the taller one. Okay. >> They was fighting. They was arguing. We pulled over to make sure he was like, "All right." And he said they had been like on the junk like that cuz he caught broke. And then we was like, "You okay?" He was like, "Yeah." So we rolled around, we went around there. We told the adults where we at and they told us to call the police. But when we came back around here to see what the address was, police was already there, right? Did y'all see the guys putting their hands on it? >> Yeah, we seen on it. >> They did it right in front of me. Literally. >> Then when we pulled up, she was like, "I don't know what you called them for." And then he was He didn't call us though. We just seen him and stop. >> Do y'all know them? >> Yeah, we go to school with him. >> So they upset because y, right? That's what this all >> No, they were all fighting beforehand, but then we then they were upset at us for leaving. tried to switch the subject and say she came and the whole time he told us to leave and then now we want >> So after she dropped you off what what happened? >> Um was just yelling. Nothing happened to us. They left and then that's when he >> as you know when as you know we was inside. >> Yeah, we were inside and she kept me trying to get my phone and I didn't give it to her and then I came out here so more people could see in case they tried to do anything and then they kept trying to get me to go back up there and I didn't know. >> They both been drinking today or just mom drinks every single night. She gets drunk every night. Okay, >> in that you can literally go in. You can literally go in. If you're not in the count of go in the fridge, it's um vodka damn. >> Several witnesses observed tense [music] interactions between the mother and her child. A moment of humanity also emerged. Pastors by stopped to offer support and [music] comfort. Sometimes kindness comes from complete strangers. >> You picked right. >> I Yes. The police were here earlier because someone got them off the bus and she didn't have permission. Technically she did, but they're drunk butts. Don't remember. The cops were there then and said that she had to go if she wanted him back. I wasn't going to let her drive. She's been drinking. So, I went and picked up with her and I told them to call me if anything happened. >> Yes. She was in the car with me. We came back here. I dropped him off. Both gave him my number and said if anything happened to call me. Not even 30 minutes later, they were texting me that >> What were they saying? >> Uh threw me up against the wall. Uh call if you need anything. I just me on the and I turned around and came back. Technically, that's kidnapping. She doesn't have permission to have kids. If they want to come get them, they can come get them. I've been with them. So, that's why I took her. Did I want them to come back here? No. Which is why I said call me if they need anything. >> So I I was here yesterday when they first left. It sounds like they shouldn't be here anyway. >> Yes, exactly. Which is what I told her. >> She was all upset or whatever. She come to realize that yeah, that was probably the right thing. And so I told her like, "Yeah, just wait till tomorrow. Let's see if >> got worse, >> right? Obviously, they have to come back is what I told her. Given the circumstances, it was probably best if they just stayed there." >> She was refusing to let them stay. If I didn't take her to get them, she was going to find a way to get them. And that would have been her getting behind the wheel. They were yelling at each other. They were um she was pushing them. I mean, she was yelling at him, but he was pretty much just sitting there taking it. And when yelling at each other Yeah. Well, she was yelling at him the whole car ride. She was yelling at them, got out of the car. >> Everybody when you pulled up >> just now, they were all sitting outside separated here up at the door, but she got up in their face while I was here. Almost. If I didn't step in, she probably would have hit him again. >> Going to jail. >> She's drunk. She don't know. That's why I told him just flag. >> Because she's saying that they put their hands on her is why. >> Why was she mad at him in the car? because they chose to and not be here with her. >> Same thing she was saying yesterday. >> Okay. >> They mad because they was not allowed to stay at the date has been going on this that and the other. My wife asked for his camera. I mean his phone. >> Yeah. >> We pay for the phone. He's refusing to give up the phone. You know what I'm saying? I ain't giving up nothing. I ain't doing this. He pushed her down. So he me and him went over there. It might be some footage over there. I don't know. You know what I'm saying? When he push her down or whatnot, I flipped them and that's that. How did how did that all come about? >> He push her down right there because she was trying to get the phone from him. She paid for that phone. She bought the phone. She paid for the phone. You know what I'm saying? She said, "I want the phone back. I want this and I want that back." You know, he said, "I ain't giving up. I ain't giving up nothing." >> Yeah. >> Just being a defiant teenager. So, I told him, "I want the money back I gave him for prom. Oh, it's on the card. This and that and the other. I want it back." >> How did he down? Was she trying to get the phone? >> She was trying to get the phone from he ped her down. like he physically heally puts it down and then the little one he's just going here and there this and that and another. Oh, don't be blah blah blah. So I'm like, "Come on, Trace. Go on about your business." You know what I'm saying? No, there's no physical contact with Trace. It was just the oldest one who refused to give up his phone. >> Where did she go? >> She went in the house. I think she smoking a cigarette and then she going uh see you in the house. >> Can you have her come out please so we can talk to her? >> The mother said her son had been disrespectful [music] and that she was just trying to guide him. However, discipline should always be done in a way that is supportive and safe, never causing fear or distress. >> Does your camera work? >> I don't know. >> Can y'all try to log into it from me? >> I don't know nothing about even on my phone. I know nothing about >> Whose account is it? >> Mine. He me he my finger. He pushed me down. >> We have a lot of he says she said right now. That's why we're trying to get video camera. >> I'm just saying >> we have a lot of he >> don't I have a right to take his phone. So he's allowed to bow up at me because I want to take his phone. >> You are not listening to me. It's your account. figure out how to get out. >> Yes, sir. I don't know. It It got cut off like a month ago, so I'm not sure. But you're more than welcome to have it. >> I don't need the >> I don't know. I don't know. I'm just saying I really don't know. You can have it. Like it stopped working like a month ago. >> What stopped working? >> The ringtone. It like rings outside but not inside. >> You don't have >> I don't My brother My brother it up. >> You don't have the app on your phone? >> No, I don't know nothing about it. I don't know nothing about that. You can have my phone. You can I'm not hiding nothing from you. But my son, >> I don't want you filming. I want you to see the video camera. >> Okay. Here. >> If you're not logged in, I'm not going to remember when I talked to you yesterday and I told you it'd be best if they stayed somewhere else and then they came back today and the thing that I was telling you was going to happen. >> You told me to go. >> So I went and >> and then look what happened. >> Yeah. He hit me. >> He How did he >> broke my finger? >> Your fingers broke? >> Yeah. He broke it. >> What happened? >> He pushed me. >> How did he push you? >> He pushed me outside because I said, "I want your cell phone. I paid for it. I bought it. It was $180 and it's $175 a month. Give me your phone. >> Okay. And then I have it, >> [ __ ] >> He pushed you and said, "Bitch, >> yes. Yes. I don't even know what to do when your disrespects you like that." Like, what do you do? >> That's not what I'm saying. >> I didn't know what to do. I never do it. So, I'm just like, "What the do I do?" And then I got like, "Don't talk to him like that." And I'm like, >> what? I disrespect me that way. I'm sorry. What happened with the cell phone in the first place? Why were you trying to take it? >> I took it because mom took him from the bus stop. I told you that, right? >> They got picked up from here yesterday, right? >> No. No, >> he got picked up from tomorrow. >> I called you. They got picked up at the bus stop. >> You didn't tell me that yesterday? >> Yes, I did. I said picked up to come from the bus stop. >> No, you hadn't told me. I called and said from the bus stop and you said go. >> Why can't you? >> Cuz you were. >> So I went and got >> No, you went and got him today. >> He assaulted me. >> That's what you're saying is he you? Yeah, he broke my finger. >> What happened after that? >> Nothing. Cuz I I don't touch I'm not going to do that. >> What happened between >> I phone. I wanted the phone that I'm paying for. So I asked for the phone and he bowed up at me, crushed me, and my [ __ ] finger. >> You need fire rescue. Take your finger off. >> Come on, man. I ain't going to >> I don't know. You saying you got a finger? >> Are you being funny right now? Like you're really being funny. >> You You said you have injury. We have to ask. >> Okay. Thumb broke my finger. I' I've had a 100 finger. It's not a big deal. Well, that's fine. I just >> But he didn't. And then he called the cops on me. >> Well, he he was saying that after you allegedly >> I tried to stand up to him cuz does either one of y'all can say it vote up at her like that. You would stand up to him too. He didn't put a hand on him. He just told him the phone on the phone that she paid for and he's like, "Fuck you. I have called the cops on you." Really disrespectful. >> Okay. >> I I don't care. I cannot believe this. >> My phone. >> Do you have a ID or a driver's license? >> I got everything in your house. >> Could you Could you bring it to me, please? >> You come in my house. >> I don't need to. >> I ain't got NO >> BUDDY. Can you grab your ID for me? >> Me? >> Yes, sir. >> The mother's statement conflicted with both the witness's accounts [music] and her child's testimony. >> I was like, "You all right?" He said, "Yeah, bro. They mad at me cuz I called, bro." And she was like, "Yeah, that's disrespectful this, that, and the third." So we was like, "You okay? You sure? You sure?" He was like, "Yeah." So we pulled off. We went around. We told the adults what happened. They told us to call the police. So when we came back around here to get the address, y'all was already out here. >> Oh. From where you were, it looked like he was getting pushed by her or like she have a closed fist open. >> She had a closed fist. She was him in his chest. She probably him in his face, but she was at first. >> Falling to the ground at any point? >> Yeah. When we first like rolled by, she was on the ground. >> When you first came up? >> Yeah. >> Before you pulled into the driveway? before we put >> she was already on the ground. >> Yeah. Was already like man he didn't he didn't stab me. She didn't push me three four times and he was like he was crying. He was in the middle of crying. Then was like yeah she be me too. But I don't know about all that. I do know when we came outside he was like he just me she pushed me and then she was like yeah I you see put his hands on her. I just know he was out here standing out here. >> Okay. The boy shared that he had faced challenges with both parents over time, revealing that the situation had been ongoing rather than a single incident. >> That's when she was jacking me like this, grabbing my neck and I had my hands up here with my phone and like just like this. She had me like this and was coming. So then I grabbed her hand and it off me. I did not her. I swear I did not. I grabbed her hand and off then she fell and she goes, "Oh, how you going to me? I'm calling the cops on you." He was like this. He was like, "You lucky all you guys. I'll bust you in your" And then he said, "Swear." That's when I was talking to I was like, "You see this? You see what's happening? I'm not doing nothing." >> At what point in time did you get slammed on the ground? >> See, he's saying he me right here. That's not even what happened. He's all the way over there. Way before they showed up. >> This is before fell to the ground. >> Yes. She slammed me over there way before. At first, he just pushed me and then you went in the house. I was I push He pushed me. I went backwards. I didn't fall. And then that's the people that live there. I was like, >> "So, this happened when you first got home?" >> No, when we first got home, he wasn't here. It happened like 20 minutes after. >> What happens when he gets here? When he gets here, he doesn't say nothing. He goes in the house. We're outside staring at him and I hear yelling and he comes outside. Mom asked you for the phone. What did you say? And I said, I asked what I did wrong. And then she came out inside and she goes, give me the phone. And I said, what did I do wrong? Walked back in the house. >> Okay. That's when he came back outside. He was like, mom went the phone, gave it to her, and I asked, "What did I do?" And then he was walking towards me. So I walked around the cars, went over there, he pushed me from behind. >> No, he p me in front of me. I was just standing there like this and he pushed me and I put my hands up and the people that live there, one of the girls was outside. I said, "You see this? I'm not doing nothing wrong." And then he went back in the house. >> One of the girls that lived there? >> Yeah. I think they just left or one of them did. The one that one that lived there. It No, it was like a a mixed girl like my skin color. >> It looked her car still there. I don't know if she's still there. >> Okay. >> But that's when she seen me. That's when she seen him me and then stayed out here. He went back my house. He came back out. I walked back to the same area cuz they were still outside. But then they ended up going in. He was just standing just like this in front of me. He went like this, grabbed me like this, planted me on the ground. >> And then that when I got >> and then I got up and I was like, "See, now I'm off." And then because I wanted to go back over there. He went back in house and then came out. And then that's when we got over here. And then they were yelling at me, grabbed me. And then that's when they seen >> And that one she grabbed my face and did this me. >> Yeah. She me three times too. >> It was a not a >> It was a She had her fist closed. >> Yeah. Remember what hand it was? She hit you with >> I was facing this way shooting her left. left hand the left hand. >> All right. >> The father tended to [music] defend his wife, prompting officers to proceed carefully, knowing each person had their own perspective. >> Based on all this stuff I'm seeing and hearing it sound it there's a lot of different versions of the same story. Actually, you weren't here when they first got home. What happens when you got home? >> But one of us are here. Um I took him here. I don't know what happened. How does that work? >> What happened when you got home today and they were here? >> Was chilling. He was outside chilling now. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. And that was bad. Well, I mean, how did all this get to be? It wasn't just chilling. What led up to this? >> She's mad at the situation. Was basically trying to influence them to do stuff. >> Thank you. You're the best. >> Try to be, but she wasn't. I don't care. >> She wanted to get his phone cuz she had been best said that if you don't pay the phone bill, I'm getting your phones. So, she went over to him, the taller one, to get his phone. And he said, "No, I'm not getting the phone." And I'm like, "Well, you didn't pay for the phone. It's it's her phone. Give her the phone." >> Mhm. >> You know what I'm saying? So he just being very defiant and whatever and he was like I'm not giving a then he said I'm like dude you don't talk to >> right. >> So he bowed up at me. Hey man it is what it is. I'm try to get the phone from over there and he down >> and try to get the phone. >> Mhm. >> So I just with a what you call in his chest cuz he's blowing up at me. Doesn't have nobody on me or do nothing to me. You know what I'm saying? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. He just got over there and now it's that I can't help. >> Yeah. I pushed over there. >> Yeah. when >> that was before it broke out. >> Yeah, [clears throat] >> he got pushed and what happened? >> Up in my face and he got down and heard that. >> After reviewing all statements and evidence, police [music] decided to hold the mother legally accountable. >> How do you what do you want to for tonight? Because this does not seem to be functional. What do you want to do? >> I can't believe >> that's not what I'm asking you. I'm asking >> you. >> Yep. >> All right. I feel like that will probably be the best thing. Is that going to be okay? >> That's the best thing. That's the best thing that they come. >> I cannot believe they're that disrespectful and they're they're actually okaying it. Like, it's so disrespectful. How you going to bow up on me on a $200 phone? $175 a month. >> You just ask them a question and then spoke right over top of it. >> Just calm down. April's going to get them a ride over there. You know what I'm saying? And then they'll be tomorrow. >> All right. All right. >> Okay. >> I can't believe this. It's okay. All right. Do what you do. >> All right. Well, we're going to check with her and make sure that's okay. >> Yeah, she already straight up said that she g right right over there. >> Well, I know, but we like to double check. >> I understand. >> Don't worry about that. She doing everything she can. >> She'll be over here tomorrow. >> Yeah. >> Who's April? April. >> So, would you mind giving them? Yeah. >> Okay, that's fine. >> I'm not leaving without him. So, >> so then >> I'm sorry. I'm just going let it go. >> I will. Just can't believe it. Just That's me over there. >> All right. Do me a favor. Stand up. >> Yes, sir. >> Put your hands behind your back. Lord have mercy. >> Don't worry about it. >> What's she going to jail for? >> Child. >> Child. >> Oh my god. >> Hang on. We'll talk about a second. >> I never did. I never >> Okay, we've got we've got a few witnesses. >> Those dudes who ring a damn car. They ain't no witnesses. >> They were no witness when he her down. >> Todd, stop. Do not put this on them. Go get your stuff. Go get your stuff. >> Stop. Stop. Stop. Everybody calm down. >> Go get your stuff. >> Todd, don't go to jail. Don't do it. >> You got anything on you? >> No, sir. >> Nothing at all. >> Don't. No, sir. Todd, don't just shut up. Please. >> I don't want y'all back in here. >> They need They need the stuff, man. >> Get your stuff. >> Get your stuff. >> They got stuff at >> It's not worth this. It's not worth it. I really do not have enough. >> If you have anything else on you and they find it in jail and it's illegal, you're going to get another charge. I'm just making I'm just asking you. I have to ask. All right. Take a seat. The father was not arrested but received a firm warning about his responsibilities. >> Don't come back here. >> He needs his crime stop. Stop it. >> I don't give a damn what he need. It's over there at his at his house. >> Yeah, it's not here. [ __ ] Put in jail. Are you serious? >> Stop it. >> Are you serious? >> Yo, can you wait in the car for me? >> Are you serious? Child. He put his hands on her. Yeah. She defending her damn self. That's why he to put his hands on me this out. Don't ever come back in here again. And I mean that. Mean that. send your ass wreck the goddamn Jubie and give my damn money back from that prom. >> You said I can spend it on prom. I spend on >> Okay, keep running that damn slick mouth. >> All right, so here's what's going to happen, man. She's going to get arrested for child abuse. That's a felony in the state of Florida. Okay, DCF's going to be contacted. They'll be in contact with you. Further investigation given the way this situation unfolded and the one that I told you. I even gave you an example of this yesterday when I talked to y'all. >> You didn't talk to me. You talked to her. >> You were standing there when I told her what was going to happen. >> I'm not standing out there. You was talking to her. >> Well, that doesn't matter where we are today. And then I went back inside. >> I want to explain something to you. I was going to explain to you >> I was going to charge you with child abuse, too. >> How you going to charge me with child? >> You to pushing the kid down. >> Because he bumped me. He got up on me. >> Let me explain something to you, man. Before this gets any further because there was no witnesses and it was just your word and his I can't arrest you. But whatever is going on here, it ain't good. And now DCF is for sure involved. >> I don't give a damn about those. >> Well, that's fine. But what you need to do is change your attitude towards whether you care or not. I don't know. But you about caught a felony because of your behavior today. my behavior. >> Yes. I'm not We're not here because everybody was civil cuz we wouldn't be here. Listen, man. I'm telling you, I'm the person. >> You almost caught a felony today because you can't control yourself. I just saw you lose your temper just now. Acting like that's somehow different than what happened when we weren't here. >> Okay. Okay. >> What I am telling you is DCF will contact you and a further investigation will be conducted. >> I know how. >> If you have any other questions, you can relay them to the sheriff's office. >> You got anything else for us today? >> No, I ain't got nothing else. >> All right. Yeah. The mother was charged with [music] cruelty toward a child. Under Florida law, the maximum penalty can be up to 30 years in prison and a $10,000 fine. Parents must understand the emotional and legal consequences of actions toward their children. At the same [music] time, everyone in society has a responsibility to protect children's safety so they can grow up in love, not fear. Nothing is more stressful than a parent trying to protect their child while navigating legal challenges. >> Oh my god. Okay, >> I'm going to need you to take a seat in the seat. Okay. >> Oh, no. >> On August 20th, 2025, police in Illinois received a call about a family [music] dispute involving a mother and her boyfriend regarding custody. They quickly arrived on the scene and engaged with a mother who was trying to leave a highly stressful situation. >> What's up, dude? >> Is Jackson around here still or is he still driving around looking for her? Okay, >> down here calling from a number. >> I'd like to get her side. I guess I feel I'd like to get her side of things and and see if she has any marks on her or anything too. He's got all over him. So seeming like she was the aggressor. Neighbor didn't see anything physical but could hear yelling and it was her that seemed more animated >> in the hospital. >> She's in the hospital. >> No, she's yelling again. I think she went to the hospital to mercy. >> Yeah, >> I guess she was trying to get help centers to help her out right now to >> She'll explain to you better off. Okay. All right. Yeah, cuz I saw the number that she tried calling him and I called. It was Mercy. I was like, >> "Yeah, >> I didn't know she walked to the hospital." Is that just now? >> All right. I'm just going to pop this over. >> You want to sit down? >> Yeah. >> Unless you want to sit. I mean, it's all cool. >> Look at this. >> Yeah. What? Uh, you want to talk about what happened? >> Yeah. I just I told him that I was done with the relationship. I just couldn't handle it anymore. >> Okay. >> He had me paying everything. He had me suffering with his family. his dad got accused of possibly doing something to his son-in-law. I don't feel comfortable living in there. And I just told him, "Tom, like, I want to leave. I can please leave. He just wouldn't let me. I tried taking my baby. He wouldn't let me take my baby." And I know the neighbors saw. And I tried. I tried and he wouldn't let me. He took my phone. He took my keys for my car. He took everything. So, I went walking to Jersey to try and find where I can get help. kind of gave me numbers and I I've been trying to come back for my baby. That's it. I'm just I don't know what else to do. Every time I try and leave, he tells me he's going to kill himself and I don't I don't know what else to do. He likees me when I try to leave. He's pull my hair. I'm just I don't >> All right. So, inside the houses when you tell him that you want to break up with him, is there something about an open relationship or something or other? >> I told him about my co-workers talking about one of our CEOs having an open relationship that they know of. Mhm. >> He always twizzes my words and he starts, "Oh, well, you want an open relationship then?" And I was like, "That's not what I'm saying." My friend Anthony texted me some jobs where I can apply where he's at. So, he saw that text message and immediately was, "Oh, you want an open relationship and you want to start dating other people and it's not like that. I'm just trying to provide a good life for my kids. That's me concerned. That's it." And I tell him over and over and over again. >> Anything physical? Was it physical at all? >> No, just himing me. That's it. And I was just holding the baby. I guess you could say that was the only physical thing that I did. I don't know what else. I don't know what else to do. I'm I just like a horrible mom for baby. >> The mother expressed her fear and provided video evidence of the conflict. However, due to reports regarding the other person, [music] police had to follow standard legal procedures. >> Do you have any on you? >> I don't know. I mean, yeah, I just have of like back then, but like nothing now. Not >> nothing from today incident or anything like that. >> No, my baby's breath by me. Like I just I don't even know who he is right now. He's probably crying. >> He's okay. Actually, he's okay. I physically looked at him. He's okay. He's not He wasn't crying. He was just baby being a baby. Just chill. >> When you left the one time and when you walked away or whatever, was that the only time you left the house? >> I tried taking my car. >> Uhhuh. >> And then I went back. I was like, I can't. I can't. I have to go back from my baby. And that's when he took everything away from me. And then he's like, you're not going anywhere. You're not going anywhere. And I'm like, please, I'm just going to go home. >> I'll be straight up honest with you. It's not like we can just turn a blind eye. So, there's some questions in each side of things, but he has some pretty significant right here and on the side of his face. >> And he's saying that you were the one that caused those markings. I used to wear >> he doesn't want anything done but I kind of play I kind of explain to him >> when he argues with me like he is like insane like I don't know what else well obviously his mom isn't going to vouch for he just goes insane and starts hitting himself in the head starts throwing himself on the floor like he acts like a kid when he like gets >> I mean I can I can put that I mean so just I'm being honest with you it's looking like you're going to have to come with us okay cuz he has he didn't want anything done but I'm this is not uh by is once this is by the state law requiring us to make an arrest in this case. >> Are you serious? >> If someone has if someone has someone goes to jail physically someone goes to jail. >> Can you please see my baby please? >> I'm I'm sorry. I can't just pretend like THAT'S going to have to have to step out. Okay. >> No, please. I know you got my baby. >> Sorry. >> Oh my god. Of course. Back to my car. Cool. >> This is crazy. >> You didn't fail as a mother. Yes. >> No, that's not failing as a mother. Okay. >> I'll be nice enough. I'll put them in the front. Roll your sleeves up for me. >> Oh, this isn't fair at all. Please. They have green cameras. They can see everything that >> I know. We I I tried viewing the cameras. Even the neighbors cameras. >> Oh, I I'm I'm not here to blow smoke up your ass. Okay. >> I don't know what that means. >> I'm not here to lie to you and just fluff and all that stuff. What ring of videos that we had? I looked. It didn't capture anything on there. Um, they're motion activated, so it's kind of where we're at. Okay, >> we'll go back and grab your phone. >> Can I be my baby, please? Please. >> I'm not going to I can't have him come out with the baby. I can't have him come. >> Can I have my dad come out with the baby, please? >> That's not how this works. Okay, [laughter] I'm going to need you to take >> Oh my god. Please. >> I'm going to need you to take a seat in the seat. Okay. >> Oh no. >> There's a seat belt across from you. to just [laughter] >> she faced significant stress and confusion while navigating potential changes in custody. >> She was asking for help. >> And here's the thing, man. She's going to It's just a charge. It's an arrest. Yeah, it's not something light, but there's going to be a chance for her to go to court, get a lawyer, and, you know, plead her side. Okay, so this is where we're at right now. >> Oh, this is horrible. >> I don't know. I don't think this is fair. She's She went to Mercy to ask for help. This dude doesn't let I mean, obviously different strengths and everything like that. >> Yeah, of course. Of course. >> No. >> Officer, is it Can I get my breast pumper? No. >> What do you need? my breast pump or no? >> Um, my partner's at the house still. >> Yep. >> We're grabbing your We're grabbing the phone and and keys and stuff like that. Whatever you have that >> I have my breast pump cuz my breast pump is cuz I get myitis if I don't pump. And >> you have your your breast pumps. >> Yeah, >> you'll be able So, obviously the the jail will have things to accommodate for that. >> Yeah, [gasps] >> of course. His family always wins. They always get their way. me. I'm done. I can't do this ever again. I'm never doing this again. I have video evidence in my phone of van going crazy in the house. You guys need that. I have it. >> Dude, man, look. You guys weren't here. I got to figure out from her and him and the neighbor that that's all I got to go off of. Everybody else's personal opinions don't mean anything in this matter. Okay, that's just >> doesn't seem right. Unless the baby >> hands are kind of tied in this scenario, man. >> Officer, please. >> Please, please. The baby's the baby's under me. Can my parents please take him? >> Well, since Is there anything in writing like from the court saying that you have sole custody of the child? Not. >> Yes. We're not married or anything. It's under me, >> right? But it has to be through a court says that you have sole custody cuz if not with him being a parent. But can I tell you that there's possibly a is in that home and I don't feel comfortable with my baby being there? >> Who would that be? >> That would be his dad. Please. >> Hey, have you made a report about this before? >> I can't make the report. I wasn't the victim. But if you ask his family, they're not going to say obviously, but it happened. >> No, I I get your frustration. It's just that since there is nothing by the court saying that she has sole custody of the kid, with him being the father, he has every right to keep the kid with him. We can't take rip the kid out, you know. >> It was self-defense. >> I was trying to I didn't even hit him. I'm telling you, he himself with his episodes that he has. I swear like nobody listens to me. I wish they would see the house, all the things he's broken, all the walls he's >> police remained calm, reassured her, and explained in detail the next steps she would need to take in court. >> I suppose one of these neighbors is their family members. I don't know. >> It did. >> Which one? >> I was right here. >> Oh, he wasn't there. That's why she ran over here right away to him. Whatever, I guess. >> No, it's it's frustrating, man. I'm not saying you guys are wrong in any case like that, but like said, the best way to fight this isn't in court, unfortunately. You said the baby won't she won't be able to see the baby for >> as of today. Now, >> how old are the baby? >> He's a couple months. >> Yeah, >> she's going to have to tell the judge how young he is and the judge is going to decide where if she can get the baby now. But that's in court, man. We can't go in there and grab the baby or >> Yeah, you only breastfeed. That's the thing. Like, >> I'm sorry. Can you kind of explain to me what's going to happen if you know >> what's that? >> Can you kind of explain to me what's going to happen if you know? Well, I can only uh there's only certain things I can give you factual information on. And that's what's going to happen when we get there is they'll sit you down to have someone from medical come talk to you. They'll get you changed over. Dinner's at 5. >> Like say that I'm like you or something like on my record. Are they going to say that like I'm a Yousef on my record? >> This is just day one. Okay. So, this is just an arrest. There's still a whole court proceeding and stuff that you have to go through. This isn't like, hey, you go to jail and you're immediately guilty and this that the other. Like there's it's a court. It's a long process. >> I feel like that's what they're saying though. Like if I did something when I swear I did. >> That's why at court you get to state everything from your point of view, too. It's not just his. It's yours as well. Okay. >> The mother was charged with domestic. Under Illinois law, the penalty can be up to one year in jail and a $2,500 fine. This case raises important questions about fairness in highly emotional situations. [music] What do you think would be a reasonable outcome for the mother given the circumstances? Share your thoughts in the comments below. Discipline or neglect? How far is too far when a child is left to face challenges alone? >> I got in trouble and then and my mom said today you have to wake up on your own and try to get catch the bus. On April 2nd, 2024, a man driving on a quiet road noticed a young boy walking alone to school and immediately called 911. Police arrived quickly to ensure the child's safety. The situation left everyone involved reflecting deeply on the importance of protecting children. >> Good morning. >> Morning. How are you? >> It's not raining. >> No, got a little shower a while ago, but other than that, I think that's all we got. >> How you doing, buddy? Where you live at? Say what? >> Can't remember. >> Oh, it's okay. You can't remember. >> And I I am going to my school. >> You're going to school? >> Do you know where Valley is? >> Mhm. >> I'm going there. >> I do. I'm here to help you this morning. Okay. I was feeding and I just caught a glimpse come by the side of the barn and I thought, "Wow, there's supposed to be somebody here." You know, I look this little guy. He says he's missed the bus. >> Okay. >> Mom told him he had to go to school. >> Where's your mama at? >> I don't know what >> is she at home? >> Yeah, but I don't know what road. >> See, I can't figure out which which bus driver runs this route. I don't not a whole lot of kids. I know his address. We're fixing to go over here in a minute. >> Did you Did you talk to your mom this morning? >> No, she she I got in trouble and then and my mom said today you have to wake up on your own and try to get catch the bus. If you don't, you should maybe maybe like now she doesn't want me to. cuz she said like I'm like I got in trouble last night and then and then she said go to sleep I won't set your alarm clock and she won't like wake me and say goodbye. >> Okay. So you had to get yourself up today. Did you sleep in your bed last night? >> Mhm. >> Inside the house. See, at first he told me he'd been out all night and then he started, you know, and I thought, >> "Was you outside last night?" >> No, I I can't remember. >> Okay. Did But you slept in your own bed last night. You had blankets and covers and everything. Did you set your alarm? >> My mom My mom always do that, but she didn't. >> Do you know how to set your alarm? told no alarm was set and you got up a little late. >> Okay. >> Said his mom's name. >> No, I I can't remember. >> Can't remember your mama's name. You just call her mama. Okay. All right. Well, I'm going to take you with me and we're going to go back to your house for a minute. Okay. And then >> I can't really know where my house >> I know where it's at. >> Where? and then we will uh check on getting you to school. Okay. >> My mom just want me to school. >> Okay. >> Cuz she she does want me to go to school cuz she loves me, but she want me to go to school. >> Okay. Well, we're going to make sure you get to school, but we got to go talk to her real quick, too. Okay. >> Can you just talk to her? Did you uh did you eat breakfast this morning or anything? Are you hungry? All right. Did you eat supper last night? Didn't eat last night either. >> She said you're not going to eat eat supper. And she said you just eat to stay in your room for all night. >> Okay. >> And I just been doing my homework. >> What did you get in trouble for? Can't remember. It was a long >> Oh, you can remember. Was you being loud or something or not picking up a mess or >> running around? >> Maybe >> being a boy. >> Maybe maybe just leaving my brother on a trip. This is the story cuz she just she just didn't let me tell the story. He just said and I was just I was crying my little brother and and then then I was going to get the cup but I got distracted and cuz like the neighbor come and I wanted cuz she don't let me pick it up and I was going to bring it to my brother. >> You left your brother on trampoline. How old is your brother? You know, >> and my my friend Noah was watching and then and he >> How old your brother? >> Two. >> Two. >> And then Noah maybe got off the truck. >> Okay. All right. Well, come with me. We're going to run to your house real quick. Okay. >> I want to just go to school cuz my mom don't want me to. She want me to go to school. So, >> okay. Well, come with me then. Are you going to go to school? >> Say what? >> I'll be back in a second. >> Are you going to go to school? >> In a minute. >> Get up there and have a seat. Give me just a second. Okay. I'm going to go talk to to this guy up here. Okay. Neighbors shared concerns about the boy's living environment, noting that young children need safe and supportive homes. I'm going to get your information real quick. I don't know Hawkins around here. He said that his bus comes down this road. See, I don't know if he lives down, like I said, down >> I got the address up there, but I don't know what it is. >> First he told me he'd been out all night and I'm like, why have you been out all night, you know? Then he says, "Well, it was kind of dark and I missed the bus." And but at first he wouldn't tell me anything. He was scared, I think. >> Yeah. And I was he was just like, "Please just take me to school. I can't just take you to school, buddy, because >> you did the right thing calling us." You know, >> there's actually a family at their house right now trying to figure out where he's at. >> So, they don't know that he's over here, but this may be them. We'll go up from there. There you go. >> How you doing? >> Okay. So my wife, we stay in 116 CR457. It's our neighbor's kid. She was driving down here this morning. She called the police and um she picked him up. He was walking. She took him back home and she's been up there on mom's door trying to get him to come to the door. Said the kid went around to the back of their house and she's been she opened up the door. She yelled inside. We've called her cell phone. We've messaged her on Facebook. >> Doors unlocked. >> Door's unlocked. She's up there at my house. My wife's freaking the out. She's like, "I don't know if this kid's in the house." And I was like, "Honey, I'm driving here to the house." I said, "There's a cop down here." And I said, "I see a kid on the porch. Right back down there. Make sure he didn't head back." She said that his mom was going to get really angry if he didn't make it to school. >> While we're fixing to head over there. >> Okay. I'm going to call, man. my like I don't know where his kids at saw this vehicle and thought you know I just seen him come back past >> after hearing about this long and [music] unsafe journey. Police immediately went to the boy's home gathered additional statements from neighbors and ensured he was safe and had enough food. You ready? I'm not sure. >> I'll follow you over. >> 16 to 40. >> Good. >> Yeah. 104. We're fixing to head over to his address right now. I'll be right back. Okay, buddy. I don't >> You want something to drink real quick, bud? You got anything to eat? >> You got anything to munch on? >> Yeah. Supper or breakfast this morning? >> You want some beef jerky? >> 518 5658 report. the oldest one. >> He said he's got a 2-year-old brother is what he told me down there. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. He's got >> He was all the way down there by the landfill. He walked that far. >> Yeah. Well, I picked him up and I brought him back and whenever I was cuz he called he opened the door and I didn't go in, but I was yelling for him and he walked around the house so I thought he went in the back and I've been yelling for him and I can't get him to come to the door. I don't know how he went past me. >> He said mama's going to be really mad if he didn't make it to school. Yeah, that's what she That's what he she said do. >> I told her I said, "Don't leave until you find out somebody's okay." >> Well, we're going to keep him in here for now so he don't run off. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> No. Who else is in the house? >> Your baby brother. How old's your baby brother? One's three, one's two. >> You don't know where your mom's at? You haven't seen her today? What about your dad? >> Haven't seen him either. >> Does he live here? >> What's your dad's name? >> He said he got >> storm. >> He said he got in trouble last night and they seen him bed with no supper. Told him he was going to bed and setting his own alarm and getting up and going to school on his own. They wouldn't waking him up. So he got up this morning late on his own. Missed the bus and his mom told him last night if he missed the bus he'd be in trouble. He started walking. >> You can't be walking by yourself, buddy. That's scary. Traffic and cars and >> All right, we're fixing to go clear this house. I mean, >> we'll be right back. Okay. >> Okay. They quickly located the house and entered. [music] During their inspection, there were other children present, but the adult caregiver was not immediately available. >> There you go. >> Uh, yeah. Trying to make contact with who's starving. >> I don't have any statement forms. If you want her to fill out a statement on Facebook, >> we're going to get you to fill out a statement here in a little bit. Let's just see if we can go try to She said the door's unlocked. She opened it up, hollered, but nobody nobody came in there. But she said there is a guy that lives here, but they didn't know his name or number. But she's got her phone number. But that's her vehicle. Crazy. >> We're fixing to scare the hell out of somebody. >> So, we're fixing to scare the hell out of somebody. >> Sheriff's office. >> Sheriff's department. >> Kid in the bedroom right there sleeping. >> Hey, buddy. Sheriff's office. >> Another kid. >> Hey, buddy. Hey, the police. Sheriff's office. >> Clear. >> Hey, buddy. Where's your mom? >> Where? >> Where's your mama at? >> Huh? >> Sheriff's office. >> Sheriff's office. Hey, stay in there, buddy. >> Here, go back to your room. >> Sheriff's office. >> Eventually, police found her in a room still resting. When [music] questioned, she appeared unconcerned about the fact that her child had been walking. >> Sheriff's Department, Sheriff's Office. Oh my gosh. >> Hello. Sheriff's Department. >> Sheriff's Office. How you doing? >> I'm good. How are y'all? >> I'm trying to figure out why your kids walking down the road by the landfill on his own. >> Which kid? >> Your seven-year-old. >> I don't know why. >> He said you told him to get up and go to school on his own this morning. >> He got in a lot of trouble last night and he got an alarm for Easter. >> Well, he missed the bus. He's scared of you. So, >> he's scared of me. took it amongst himself to walk all the way down by the landfill. >> He's scared of me. Okay. I mean, he can he can be scared of me all he wants. He he needs to be scared of me. I'm I'm his parent. That's his that's my job. >> You got any ID on you, ma'am? >> Um my husband actually has it. He has my ID and my social. He had to send an attorney's office for the thing for our business. >> Okay. Well, >> what's your first name? >> Amber. I know my ID. I know my DL number by by heart. What did he get in trouble for? >> Who? >> Your son. >> He um purposefully left his 2-year-old brother on a trampoline in the backyard by the pond cuz he thought he just flat out said he wanted to be mean and left him on there by himself. >> What's your birthday? >> 8:22 of 90. >> So you think it's >> He also yelled at >> You said 92. >> 90. He also yelled at a teacher. He also lied to me when he got home about what happened at school that day. So, I have to put these patches on my face. He also yelled at a teacher and then he tried to hide his report card when he got home. It's been a whole mess of stuff lately. He also >> Did he get to eat supper last night? Cuz he told us he >> last night he did not get to eat supper. And that's the first time that has ever happened. Ever. >> Okay. >> But when he left his 2-year-old brother because he said he wanted to go play with a cat. >> Yep. and he left one of my other babies on a trampoline. >> But with you being an adult, you can't expect a sevenyear-old to give his full attention to a 2-year-old kid. >> Yes, I can. When he said, "I want to play outside." >> Well, come come come out front with us real quick. >> I have two other babies that are sleeping. >> Yeah, we done woke them up. They're not sleeping now because we had to come in to find you. >> Hey, y'all need to lose your side with me. I'm being very kind. I'm a mother with three boys and I'm doing everything I can. >> We don't have an >> y'all. Y'all are y'all are tuning in and >> you don't need to have it just cuz you're a cop. >> Okay. Well, listen, man. We can just take you to jail for child endangerment. >> I didn't do anything. You let an 8-year-old get all the way across town. That's a problem. So, don't say that we have an attitude. No, listen. You've talked this whole time. Don't say we have an attitude when your 8-year-old is walking down the street and we can't get a hold of you. Okay. >> Okay. >> It's a problem. The kid is starving right now. I had to feed him beef jerky because >> starving. >> You just said he didn't eat supper last night. No, he didn't. >> He hasn't had breakfast either. >> Yes, he had breakfast this morning. >> He said he ain't even seen you this morning. >> No, he that was what he was told to do this morning. This is the first time >> you expect a sevenyear-old to be an adult on his own. Are you serious? >> The first time this has ever happened for him to have to wait. >> Just hang tight up here. Just hang tight up here. I'm fixing to call I'm fixing to call the child services. >> No, I'll get it if I need it. You haven't? >> No, that's what I asked you for. >> 40 dispatch. >> The mother was charged with seconddegree domestic assault of a child under 12 and first degree endangering the welfare of a minor. She was held at Craighead County Detention Center on a $50,000 bond, awaiting trial on May 24th, 2024. The children are now safely protected. Discipline [snorts] isn't wrong, but when fear replaces care, it's no longer teaching. A child needs guidance through understanding, not unsafe lessons. Can you believe [music] it? Children are not born with bad intentions, but the environment, upbringing, and family experiences around them can quietly influence their development. She can't drive with all four kids in the car like that. So, I guess she can't go anywhere either. >> On June 15th, 2022, Rine County Police conducted a traffic stop after noticing a car traveling 43 mph [music] in a 30 mph zone. What seemed like a simple traffic violation quickly became serious when the safety of four children in the vehicle was at risk. >> We're going to be at the mobile gas station off of Spring. What does that plate come back to? >> Hi. >> Can you roll down this back window? >> Hi guys. >> So I'm from scene county sheriff's office. I pulled you over for your speed. You know how fast you're going? >> So 40 44 and a 30. >> Copy. Thank you. >> Definitely going to take that report and dispute it because that's not what I stood on. Okay. >> I need fine. You can give me the ticket. Oh, that's just my insurance though. >> Yeah, I need your driver's license. >> Who's the registered owner? >> I am. >> You're the registered owner? >> Yeah. I'm still waiting on my place to come in the mail. But my registration Where is my Oh, I gave her my >> The what? >> I gave my title to his mom. I gave that registration. >> I gave it to her. It's in my goddamn hand. >> Okay, sounds good. So, you're Kelly. >> Do you have your uh driver's license? >> ID? I gave it to her. >> For your ID? >> Oh, no. I don't have an ID. >> Okay. Dude, >> she has a license. I don't need to give you my name. >> You just said it's it's your car. >> It's my car. >> It's her car. I never said it was my car. It's her car. >> I don't know why you're being so argumentative with me. >> I have to go to work. I don't have time for this. >> You're going to work with all the kids? >> Taking them home and then I'm going to work. I work at 8:00 p.m. I have to shower and stuff. I took my kids to the beach cuz that's what we do on holidays. >> All right. Um, how old are the kids? >> What is that, man? >> Don't know. You don't know the age. You don't >> We have a lot of kids. Is this necessary? Right. >> Right. >> At the river man. I thought Madison >> when did you buy the car? >> A life alert alarm. >> What was ago to call the guy in your >> Do you have any in the car you know about? >> No. >> Any in the car? No. >> No. >> No. No. >> I said no. I said no. >> There's no alcohol. No. I got some prescription pills. >> Don't reach for anything, okay? You guys are just being argumentative and that that's a little weird. >> You're asking a bunch ofing questions that don't ain't older over for speeding their name, your seating insurance, your seating registration, and you're still questioning how old are my kids, this and that. >> Well, I only ask because they have to be in car seats and there's four of them in a threeperson seat. >> I got a car seat in the trunk. Can you put a car seat in the car, this kind of car and fit all these kids in here comfortably? >> Well, you don't have the you don't have the space to fit in the back seat. >> That's why the car seat illegal. >> Then why do I take it for that too? >> Okay. So, do these kids you just have the one the one seat then or? >> I got booster seats at home. >> Okay. >> I got a car seat. >> Is it your Are those your kids or >> They're all my kids. >> Do you have your ID on you? >> I don't need to give you my ID. >> Yes, you do. They're your kids. >> By by law. >> 59. Can I have a cover? They're being argumentative. >> You're going to get arrested. Just give her your [ __ ] >> I don't have an ID on me. I said it five. My name is Joshua Zaminsky. I tried to give him my prescription pills. Had my name on it. But by law by law, you have a driver's license. I wasn't driving. You have a license. >> How do you spell your first name, sir? >> J O S H U. >> J O S H. >> Joshua. Your middle initial? >> Joseph J. >> Your last name? >> Zaminsky. Z I M I N. >> Zinsky. >> Yes. >> What you do at birth? >> Would you like to see my prescription code from the doctor? Got it. They're fine. I pick them out. >> You gave me your name. I don't need to see your frustration. >> I'm just I'm frustrated. I got a lot of going on. >> Okay. Well, why don't you guys just stay in the car for me? All right. I'll be right back. Thank you. >> It's worth noting that the two adults in the car had previous legal issues. This raises an important question. When children grow up around adults who struggle with following rules, how might it influence their understanding of right and wrong? >> They're being extremely argumentative. Um, she said I didn't pull her over for speed. >> Would you stop or >> her speed? Okay. >> So, 43 and a 30. So, she was arguing it right off the start. And then, uh, there's four kids in the back seat and no car seats. And there's a person back there. So, >> no problem. >> We think it's for the two kids that are young enough to be the other two. >> Okay. Yeah. Well, you still, like I said, you still have me thinking for all four. Don't want us to. >> Too bad we don't have a canine. Too bad we don't have a >> canine. Side window's pretty dark, too. >> Oh, yeah. They're like the same color. You can't you can't see inside at all. And then when I first stopped him, I didn't even approach the car. He's hanging out the window. Why' you stop us? yada yada yada. >> Negative. It was a make case. We got the information. She can't drive with all four kids in the car like that. So, I guess she can't go anywhere either. >> No, we're on a traffic stop. >> What? >> What? For what? >> How long does it take place? How long does it take you to write a ticket? >> As long as it needs to. He >> said, "How long does it take to write some tickets?" I said, "As long as it needs to." >> Can you go test their tent? Thank you. Which window? >> Um the front and the back. >> All right. Can you roll up your front window a little bit? >> Can I roll up my window? >> Yeah. Can you roll up just the me? >> All right, that's good. >> 51 front, four back. Inspection results showed that the parents violated multiple traffic safety regulations. Both were fined a total of $700 for offenses related to child safety, [music] vehicle registration, and window tinting. >> All right. Can you roll up your front window a little bit? >> Can I roll up my window? >> Yeah. Can you roll up just the t? >> All right. That's good. going >> 51 front, four back. 51 front, four back. >> Okay. So, couple things here. Um, you got your citation for the violation of child safety drink, which looking through your history, this is the second offense for you. So, you got one for that. You sir got the other one for the second child. So you got a citation as well. Okay. >> And then your registration is suspended due to an un due to two unpaid parking tickets in the city of reine. So you got a citation for that? >> If my registration was suspended when I just registered the car like a week ago. >> I don't know. You'll have to work that out with reine. It just says it's suspended unpaid to pay his mother cuz I ain't >> And then you got another one for excessive rear window tinting. >> My law is 35% in Wisconsin. Last seen here is said 54. >> The front one. >> The back said 50. Can I see it again? >> Sure, that's fine. >> So, you don't have to go to court for these if you don't want to. >> But if you'd like to, your court date court time is going to be July 21st at uh 2:00 p.m. in the afternoon. So, I'll give you these. I put your ID in there. And then um this is his name. >> Yep. >> All right. Do you have any questions? >> Nope. >> Okay. you uh can't drive because they don't have proper rest. >> I have my sister on her way with another I'm going to get my car seat out of the trunk after y'all leave cuz I don't trust not to get paid. >> Okay, sounds good. Take care. >> Good. Thank you. >> Just a couple of months later, they [music] were taken into custody again for allegedly attempting to rob someone at point. 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