What the hell do you want me to say? She was being disrespectful, okay? >> Oh my god, I >> Financially, you know, I can't support this apartment by myself. >> Not everyone going through hardship wants someone to step in, [music] and not every attempt to help feels welcome. >> Flinch got dislocated his arm her on the rib cage. He just got to pop it back in real quick. So what? >> Just arrest me. I've been in jail before. >> I don't want anything to happen to you. >> This video shows what can happen when the truth surfaces at the most unexpected moment. Christmas, a time meant for family warmth, instead became the backdrop to a tense law enforcement response following a call. >> And um I'm calling from New York. Um I have a niece that is down in Palm Coast. Um she's in like a domestic situation with her three children. To get information, she's scared to call the police. Um but she wants to move back home to New York. He dragged her around the house by her ankle, punched her in the in the temple. Um and she sent me photos to my email like but I don't know if they're from today or not. But there's in the photos there's scratches on her neck, a lip >> On December 23rd, 2022, Florida police received a call from an aunt in New York reporting that her niece had been living for years in a high conflict [music] household with her partner and three children. She also provided images showing concerning signs [music] on her niece to support her report. Notably, the woman herself did not seek [music] assistance, but the aunt's call set a legal process in motion. One that, once initiated, is difficult to stop simply [music] because those involved reconsider. >> Hello. Are you in 516? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Are you in 516? >> Yeah, I am. >> Okay, hey. Uh can we talk? >> Yeah. >> Are you >> I'm just scared. What are you scared of my face is? >> What do you mean scared of my face is? Hi, are you Kennedy? >> Hi, yeah. >> Okay. >> Um >> Okay. Are you just going back around in there? >> Okay. >> Are you able to come out and talk to us? >> I'm sorry, what did you say? >> Are you able to come out and talk to us? >> Yeah. >> Okay, so we got a call from the neighbors that there was some stuff going on earlier here. >> Wait. >> Is there anything you want to talk about? Do you want to go somewhere and talk? No? Okay. Uh at any point was there any screaming, any arguing? >> Yeah. >> Yeah? Did it get physical? Are you sure? Your kids are not going to get taken away. Do you understand that? >> I'm sorry. >> It's okay. >> I don't really know what I'm doing. >> Okay. the neighbor. Okay. Did you talk to the marshal at all? >> No. >> You want something? >> No. No. >> Did it get physical at all? >> I don't know. I don't want anything to happen to them. Like I don't want to get arrested or anything like that. That's all I got to say. >> I don't want to >> talk about it. >> I don't want to talk about it. >> I just want to >> We just got I'll be right in. I'll I'll come and talk to you. We got some complaints from the neighbors, so I'll talk to you in a minute. >> She's really upset. >> Okay. Yeah, you're not in trouble. >> Um But yeah. No, it's all A got a on, you know. So, yeah. Yeah, everything's fine. going on over there. Yes. So, yeah, I'm sure my kid Yeah. >> She's telling me her concern. >> I know. I said to her I cuz history. No. And that's why I get a little concerned. >> Specific specific on history? >> Yeah. >> Like in New York? Did anything happen today? >> Yeah, I mean like reality, you know what I mean? But I don't want to I don't want anything to happen cuz I cannot have them leave. >> So, you and my aunt are trying to >> Can't have them leave? >> Like my I can't have I can't want I can't have them arrested or taken away right now. >> Why? >> Because I can't support anything on my own right now. And you and my aunt are trying to construct a plan. >> of action. Charlie 61325 I'm going to be central. Okay. >> Secretly I'm trying to and make a plan. And then mama could drive them right now cuz Like I said, there's a history with the police and stuff like that. I think it was >> Yeah. >> Has he been arrested before? >> Mhm. >> Here? >> No. >> Okay. For the same reason? >> Yeah, but in New York. >> Mhm. >> I just I don't want any trouble. I don't >> I don't want to jeopardize >> I never hesitated to call or anything like that. >> That's 50/50 Dawson's file. >> Um so, I just So, I just set up a little meeting. Um >> Let me just kind of let him know what's going on. So, aunt called and she's telling me her >> Mhm. >> And that uh he put her in he can't have them really today and that he wants them to return and she didn't want anything to have to do with kids, that's why she didn't call. >> Okay. >> And, he's inside. He has no idea. I told him the neighbor called. Clearly, so I'm not going to like say the actual >> Say the actual reason. >> No, she said everything Yeah, that's what I That's why I said it because I didn't want it to be anonymous. But, she didn't care. She knew. She just didn't care. She didn't want him to know. >> Okay. >> He has no idea what it was. >> Okay. >> Despite enduring the situation for 10 years and allowing [music] those tensions to affect the children, the mother expressed frustration toward her aunt when officers arrived. >> So, do you want to tell me what led up to No, she said I She said Yeah. She told me he got a bad bad day. Yeah, I know. I I don't want to say anything to her because I don't want to get her in trouble. That's what I'm figuring out. You know, if I needed to speak If I wanted to have him out, then I would have called you guys myself. I'm not saying that but, you know, in the past, like I said, there's a history. I said this once to call the cops. That's different the second time. So, I won't hesitate. But, with this situation, I don't I don't know what to do. I don't know what to I have nobody here. Like, nobody in Florida. You know, so if it were to happen, I I need him right now financially, as you can probably understand, you know. Um and it's holiday season. >> I can't understand that. >> I know, of course you can't. >> No, I I haven't been through it. But, what you're doing is justifying it. And, it's never just a violent thing for any man or any woman to do that to anyone. >> Yeah, no, I mean >> Especially in front of your kids because eventually, it's going to be your kids. Or, it's going to continue being you. And, you're you're not a bunch of them. >> Yeah. >> So, I don't understand when you tell me to do I I don't understand. I don't think that's ever okay. >> When you're When you're in situations like this, it's easy to understand. >> But, but you have a way out. You have a way out. Your aunt said she'd come get you. >> Yeah, and that's why I'm like that's why I'm mad at call cuz I'm like personally I'm like please don't say anything. I just want to know if I like talk to you guys and like is something going to happen? I don't think anything to happen. >> Whatever you tell me, if I find anything I have to act on it, okay? >> Yeah, and I just >> I'm telling you that but I I want to know what kind of happens. >> I don't want to talk about it because I said you have to act and I I cannot I cannot and this is my mental state. >> I'm going to go in there and call my aunt. >> I'm so upset. Cuz she told you guys. Um just know that I'm working on it. I'm working on it. >> I have to talk to him. >> You can talk to him. >> Oh, I know. I'm going to talk to him and I'm going to find out if >> Whatever you going to do, I'm just letting you know. >> Okay. >> I'm letting you know. >> Whatever I decide, are you willing to do a statement today? >> Meanwhile, her partner acknowledged that we argue almost every day while denying that he had acted inappropriately. >> No, I'll I'll call him. You want me to call him for you? Let's see. Mike, hey Mike. >> Sorry, I'm talking. >> No, you're good. Okay. Are we able to come talk? >> Yeah, I'm going to put this on here. >> Okay. >> It's all all three of you guys. >> We're waiting. >> Right there. >> Okay. >> I was watching. >> You can just put it >> I think he's right there. >> I'm going to stay here for a second just in case. Just call Oh, okay. Hey. Can he come talk over here? You there? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. All right. So, the reason we're here is we got a call from neighbors that something was going on over here earlier. >> Okay. >> So, there was screaming. This isn't the first time. >> I was going to say she's been going since yesterday afternoon. >> Yeah, it was it's the lady. >> Oh, yeah. You want to know what happened? when you What was the screaming and the arguing? >> It's pretty good. We were yelling this morning. >> What did you yell about? Did you yell about anything? So, is there something happening that you know about? >> No, we were yelling. >> How long were you guys yelling? >> No. >> Did you yell at her before? >> What were you guys yelling about there? >> I don't know. Were you yelling again? >> Yeah, I know. That's why we're here. >> Oh, that's the problem. This is my name. >> So, what did you do? What did you do? >> Um I don't know. Honestly, I don't really know. >> So, you remember that you were arguing? >> But you don't know what it was about? >> What happened then? It's 8:49 p.m. >> Yeah. >> I mean, I'm not trying to be rude. >> Okay, so I'm being serious. I have three kids. I'm stressed and tired and don't sleep and it's upon me. But again, not like the whole day, you know. >> Mhm. >> It used to get on me a little bit. Today, she was at the store and got home from walking the dog again. So, I went down there and said something and she made dinner and I was in my room and my son came out and he was sitting in the living room quite a for a while actually and then he ran out the door. >> Okay. >> So, I don't have I don't know. I don't know. We have kids. We argue, you know. They don't listen to her, I yell at them, she yells at me. That's basically the gist of it every day. >> Okay, well, the argument that was heard was something along the lines of you didn't sleep. >> Didn't sleep? >> Yeah, you were upset cuz you didn't sleep. >> About me? >> That you sleep nights I mean, you work nights. >> Well, I was, but I stopped cuz it >> 10-4. >> wasn't working. >> Okay. >> I changed so I could sleep during the day. Yeah. >> What happens when you guys argue? I know that you got arrested before. I looked it up before I got here. You got arrested before for >> Oops. >> Is that normal? >> No. No, it's not normal. It was 20 years after the kids [ __ ] was falling and he was just very difficult to deal with. He was saying crazy things and I was good. >> So, what happened when you got arrested the first time? >> What do you mean what I >> When you got arrested for it? What was >> I knew what was going to keep but I was never for anything. >> In New York? >> Yeah. Never actually ever. >> Okay. >> I mean she might have said that briefly and then it was dropped so it never came up. It was all dropped so it was never >> Yeah, but you got arrested for it, right? Did any of that happen today? >> No. >> It didn't get physical at all today? >> I never put my hands on her. >> Okay. >> We have three children together once >> That means nothing to me. I I see it all the time people people and they have to >> Well, who cares what I don't do that stuff. I'm a good person. >> [clears throat] >> Okay. >> Put my hands on her and then >> Okay. Just saying she needs anything. >> For law enforcement, the issue is not who wants to speak up, but whether there is sufficient legal basis to believe a violation may have occurred. They are required to proceed when there is probable cause in domestic conflict [music] cases, even if those involved are unwilling to cooperate. >> All right, once we put these on we'll explain everything that's going on, okay? >> Yeah. My wallet. >> Okay. >> Can I take my wallet >> Take off your jacket. >> Charlie, just lean on the car. Come here and lean on this one. Okay, right here. Just lean on the car. >> Why? I I just don't understand. >> Sit in there and I'll explain it to you. Can you tell me to the back? All right, you're going to have a seat. All right, so you're placed under arrest for domestic Um We have 809. You hitting your wife inside the head earlier today. Um not from her directly, from another party. >> What other party? My dog. The neighbor >> You said your dog? >> Yeah, like who else is in my house? I would never hit her. >> Okay. All right, I asked you what happened. You had a chance to explain yourself. You didn't want to tell me what occurred. You were very vague, very evasive. >> trying to be vague. I I have a busy life with three kids and I we argued this morning. >> Okay. >> But I absolutely did not hit my wife. >> Okay. >> And I don't I mean I didn't hit nobody. So she said that I would be She I don't think that she would say >> Okay. >> So you're saying a third party said it. >> Yes. >> I mean the third party said >> Okay, I'll be back. I have to go talk to her, okay? >> Oh, okay. >> Do you want to stand? Okay. I just need uh all the paperwork. Yeah. If you run into any boy or girl tonight that you want to give a gift, like their actual gift, just tell me. Huh? So one day you will, Dorsey. >> The mother chose to remain silent in an effort to preserve stability for her family. Yet at times, that silence can have lasting effects on children, including a greater risk of emotional, behavioral, and relationship difficulties as they grow older. >> Hello. Huh? I didn't say anything. I have you on body cam. Yeah. You didn't. You said you weren't going to Okay, um Do you want to step out here or do you want to talk like in private? Okay, fine. You said that it happened earlier. You need something? You know? Okay, Kennedy, um I understand this is not what you wanted, okay? All right. I understand that. Okay, one, you're on What did you say? I know how this goes, and I didn't say yes or no. So, Well, that's enough. And then when I had asked you, you had you said alluded to that that occurred. The phone call or not The phone call was enough. And me coming here and speaking to you, I have enough to pursue. And even after speaking to you, it was even more. I wanted to get more information. I understand this is not what you wanted. This is not the outcome you wanted. Um but he committed an offense. I I don't know what else to tell you. It's not okay for him to hit you and you calling your aunt and saying that all that occurred today. So, what happens to him? Okay, this is what's going to happen. He won't be able to come here until he sees a judge. Then he's not going to be here for a >> Well, he knows he's under arrest. He does. >> Did you say like >> for domestic and he got away with it. >> Did you say anything or did >> Nope, I gave him a chance. He says, "I've never hit her in my life." Whatever happened in New York, um he got let off. It was proved that he never hit her. And he said, um "Who would tell on him?" He says, "I know it wasn't her. It was the dog." He got He sarcastically said, "It was the dog." He said, "Who else would tell on her?" So, was it the dog? Sarcastically he's saying, "Was it the dog?" And I said, "No, I didn't put your aunt's name in it." I mean, eventually when I do the affidavit and that I spoke to her that that occurred. And he's going to see that it was her. So. >> So, what else do you want to tell me? >> Is there anything I can tell your aunt to help you? >> No. >> I know this is not what you wanted, okay? >> I didn't say I just I didn't It's whatever. He said, "So, what do you know about her?" And I didn't admit to anything or say anything. I just said we were arguing. He said, "Leave." And I was like, I didn't say yes or no. I didn't say anything. >> You said yes, but you didn't want anything to happen to him. I mean, you're free This is all public record. >> that. I know that. >> And you're able to see it, okay? I wouldn't act on something that I didn't have enough like when you're saying that you're making it seem like I just did it to did do it. I had a third party. I made contact. You told me it happened. >> What if I didn't answer the door? What would have happened? Would you have done that? Like did I have to answer the door just now? Because if the door because they don't I just would have said no. Things like that. >> I know, but look at look at your mind process right now. Do you see where you're at? What would have happened if I didn't answer the door? >> Yeah. >> Okay. I mean, I'm not sure what to tell you. I understand I don't understand what you're going through, but I can understand the emotions of all this coming at you at once. I can >> It is Christmas. >> I >> You know what I mean? That's what I'm like. I said, "I just I just don't understand I just don't get it." I just say that. So, that's why I'm so confused. Don't explain to me if you're not even going to listen to me. It's just That's what's frustrating. >> I spoke to you and um you told me that person and you didn't want to pursue it. I asked you if you would do a statement which you did and you thought about it. You told me no. You said you didn't want him to get in trouble. You said you had a plan to get out of here cuz he's been hitting you all the time since New York and he's been arrested before. You told me all of that. >> In the middle of the holiday season, watching a loved one being escorted away was not easy. [music] In her eyes, this was not the end of the tension but possibly the beginning of another period of uncertainty, finances, housing, and the children's future. >> I understand you know, I understand what you have to do. I I understand all of that. I just I just find it different cuz in in New York, you know, like I've told you, it's a zero tolerance for domestic I can see that because in New York, they would be like, "Okay, what happened?" And I'd be like, "Oh, no, nothing." "Okay, have a good night. See you later." You know, and so that's why I'm like really confused. >> Now, in Florida and especially Flyer County, we have zero tolerance for domestic because it gets really is the worst thing. It progresses into Yeah. Worst case scenario, that's it. And we try to protect the victim as much as we can. And >> Even unwilling like even when the victim is unwilling to >> So, yeah, like I brought a statement for you to write. With or without this the arrest is made. Do you know what I'm saying? This >> I made it very clear that I just want to walk away. It's just It's just It's just walk away and that's what I want to do because in the past multiple times in New York going through this this exact situation. And And each time I regretted it. I regretted it. I bailed him out. I regretted it. I regretted it. We regretted it in the sense of like we could have called you guys like the police because it's such a drama. Like I I can't I go back anyway. It doesn't help anything. It actually is making everything worse right now. I I kids are missing their father at Christmas forget about what we went through. My kids now are missing their father at Christmas. And um and financially, you know, I can't support this apartment with myself. We could barely support it together. And now I'm thinking well now what? Especially if he can't come back. The hell I understand but my aunt said what she said. But in the next couple of days he can't. Well let's just say like let's say the judge decides that he can't come back. X amount of a year or what whatever whatever they work with. I can't like I can't even in New York but I have to support him like less kids you know what? Before we had kids and they went through this even that tough and now we have three children and in place I don't know. They have to just stand for my perspective like if I would if I felt like I needed to call the police which I don't hesitated I would have done so and just >> What's your what's your path? >> Like from the past like what was it? >> To this day right now what's your enough? >> Like I have I'm not going to be Yeah. >> Do you hear yourself? >> I know it sounds insane. >> Not insane. It's That's you just being victim and over. You're like oh well I can tolerate a little bit more. I can tolerate a little bit more. At what point do you understand? >> You're you're right. I just >> I just I wish I could help you and you know what? I actually have two gifts that are in my car. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Yeah. >> I just don't you guys >> some Christmas gifts? I got two in my car, a boy and a girl. Look at that. I got >> Thank you. >> Yeah, of course. But just >> I just I don't know what to do cuz this Christmas >> That was like another day. I I probably be more like, all right, reach out to your aunt and ask her for financial support for the next couple days. She said she was willing to help you guys. >> I know, but it's willing to do what she's like my sister. We're very very very close. >> So, [clears throat] I think you should do that. >> And she even said to you guys, she didn't want you guys to come here. She's like, I I told >> No, she Yeah, she but you guys could you had to now. And then I said, "Chrissy, why don't you give my name and my address?" >> Yeah, the moment she told me that he did what he did today, like this past semester not saying we brush that aside, but if there's history over and over of and we get brought up in it like it was going it was like 4:00 p.m. That's not really relevant. You know what I'm saying? It happened today. So, when things like that, we have to act on it. When you say, "Oh, I it like 3 years ago." You know, we still document it. But it's very hard to prove that that because of the delay of the incident. Do you know what I mean? >> Oh, yeah. >> But but it happened today earlier this afternoon. Therefore, we have to investigate. She told me and we're here. >> But I was planning that for like a month or two from now. You know what I mean? Not like uh Christmas Day or Christmas weekend. Like this is not This is not okay in for my kids. It's not even I'm not even thinking about me. This stuff doesn't help me. This is not helpful. This is It makes it worse every time. That's why I'm so angry. And I know that you do your job. It just makes it worse. I mean, look at this. Who wants to deal with this? Like I I don't want to deal with the other I get I get it from your perspective, but >> I see you. Okay? I see what you're going through. I I understand all the aspects, but you don't need all of those aspects in addition to what is occurring. I don't want to say anything in front of your children. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> But in addition to what is occurring, that is worse. You're not a punching bag. >> I know that I didn't call you guys cuz it is Christmas weekend and this is exactly like a double whammy of like what I don't want happening. If it was like in the middle of January and this is happening right now, I'd be like, you know, but like my kid now my kid has to suffer his fault, of course, in a sense, but this is not It's not This is not what This is not This is not I just I'm I'm beyond angry right now. >> Anything I can >> do to help you? There's really nothing. This is not helpful. Um I appreciate you doing your job, but >> After several attempts to seek clarification, officers were still met with the mother's refusal to provide further [music] details about what had taken place. >> Now, I'm going to ask you if you want to do a written statement of what occurred here today. >> No. >> Okay. The report's going to say exactly what your aunt told me. That you called her earlier to say, "I don't want to say it aloud, but he was trying to sleep and got loud and you hit him upside the head." He punched her in the eye. That's what she told me. That's what the report's going to say. He's saying that she told me this. Okay. So, when he had asked me, I just said it was a third party. Okay? But, he will eventually if he reads the report, he's going to know where it came from. I just want to give you the heads-up. That's how it's going to transpire. >> It's discouraging to get help. I was going to I have to I'm just >> Yeah, I was going to tell you I don't want you to be discouraged or be hesitant to call police next time. >> Like it's appreciable when it's working, but when it's not, it's more from experience. It's more dangerous than not. Like it's more dangerous to call you guys than not to. And I just I'm just >> Looking at financially or >> In every way. It's just like there's more bad than good, but I understand the reasoning, common sense, the reason someone >> What would you do if this was something happening to one of your kids? >> If it was something happening to them, same thing, your daughter's in the same situation and your daughter calls you like you called your aunt. What would you do? >> I would I would be very nervous, but I if they told me not to do anything, I would respect that to a degree. But like Like Like I would make a little inquiry, but it's But then I'm smart enough to know how the justice works and she doesn't. You don't drop your name and address like she did innocently which is you know, very hard to just not think of the bigger picture. You know what I mean? So that's what I'm getting at. But it's all good intentions, I understand that. And you know, I understand what they're doing. So there's something else >> I wish I could. >> It's just I wish it wasn't on Christmas weekend and that's that's the biggest problem I'm having right now. So >> I'm going to go really quick grab those things for your kids, okay? >> Thank you. We appreciate it. >> Yeah, of course. >> The man was charged with domestic battery. Under Florida law, he could face a [music] potential sentence of up to 5 years in prison and a $5,000 fine. Children need more than a roof over their heads. They need a stable environment to support both their physical and emotional development. Adults may endure, compromise, or reassure themselves, but children do not have the same options. When a crying child knocks on a neighbor's door, what happens behind that family's door is no longer entirely private. >> She tried to sweep around, she grabbed my hair like this, hit the wall. Like there's a bunch >> On May 20th, 2025, police received a call from a neighbor reporting that a 13-year-old girl had run to their home in a state of panic. She said her mother had acted in a way she felt was too forceful during an argument. At the scene, [music] officers observed several visible signs of distress on her, prompting a closer [music] review of the situation. >> Feeling it. >> Hi. >> Hey buddy. >> This is my granddaughter. Is she here or there? >> She's She's next door. >> Okay, look. >> No, Teresa. Grandma? >> Yeah, the grandmother. >> Okay, I'm >> She didn't tell us that her dad was over there. >> We got a call from your mom. >> We got into it. She got disciplined on her on her birthday. She just got a bump on her head. A little bit of swelling on her face. She said mom slapped her. Well, so I've I've seen people worked over here. >> Okay. >> Can you come over here and can you bring her over? >> What's >> Can you come over here? I'll go see what she wants to do. Hey, grandma's here next door. Do you want to go over there? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Bye, Lydia. >> Bye. >> Later, boys. >> I just got to grab my clipboard real quick. >> Yeah, grab that. >> Here's grandma here. All right, we can come over there if you want. >> I want to sit come over here. >> Whatever makes everybody more comfortable. I mean, they've been kind enough to let her hang out here for a little while, so. >> Lydia, can you just do me a favor real quick? Can you raise your right hand? And do you swear and affirm that everything you told me is true? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Lydia, is there any Can you fill out this form for me? >> What is this? >> It's like, does she control your life and everything you do? Does she get upset when you're maybe a little defiant to what she says to do? Stuff like that. >> Um what do I do here? >> So pretty much just what happened, what you told me in your own words. >> Can I get to read what she wrote? >> Yes. Yeah, this is just a assessment on all these questions and boxes. That's her statement right there. >> Can I put a line through that? >> Yes. You can also do the same on this front sheet also underneath where there's no more writing. So we got to go talk to mom, get her side of what happened today. If it's sufficient for an arrest, an arrest will be made. >> And what's sufficient for arrest? >> Well, right now we have probable cause for child abuse. >> I'm not the victim. >> No, so she's going to she's going to fill this out. You're just going to sign below. So it's just going to be your name, where you live, and your birthday. And then if you can just fill out the top. This is when if we do decide to make an arrest, if he gets out, you guys will be notified through this when she's As she's released from the jail. >> I think I would know if I have to go pick her up or something. >> Well, if she is arrested, she's not going to be allowed to come to the house. >> For how long? >> That's up to the judge. You have access to your Ring doorbell camera? >> It doesn't really record. >> It doesn't record? >> I'm so bad about connecting the internet. >> Okay. Well, from what she said, she ran out of the house. She looked her upset. That's what we're looking for. Anything crazy that would have happened if the camera picked up screaming, anything like that. >> it's not set up to do any of that. >> I'm concerned that she's gotten to an argument with her mother and that y'all are going to go and probably arrest her based on whatever she wrote. >> Well, based on physical evidence, we have to. And depends on what mom says. >> Okay. >> Obviously, we have to speak to mom. >> I get it. >> Can't just go off of what one person says. >> I understand. >> All right. Any other questions, you can always give us a call, okay? >> Okay. >> While speaking with officers, [music] the mother did not deny that there had been physical interaction, but described the situation from a different perspective. Her daughter had changed significantly and her recent academic performance had declined. In her view, this could be part of adolescence. >> Hello. >> Hey, how are you? >> All right. I'm a deputy from the sheriff's office. Is this Brooke? >> Yep. >> The reason that I'm stopping out with you is I got a report Lydia, I guess some sort of altercation happened back at the house. >> Yes, that's why I was heading to the house right now to meet you guys. >> I got you. Yeah, we're we're coming to talk to you up there, but I guess >> That's fine. Did you guys want to go somewhere to talk about this or >> This is fine. >> Okay. >> What happened? >> Basically, I picked up my daughter to take her to the dentist and if they canceled the appointment, my daughter has been doing a numerous things that we discussed since this morning and that I've asked her and she got disrespectful with me. She called me and she charged me and I tried to hold her down and told her and I screamed in her face and told her, "Please help me. Don't talk to me like this. Like you cannot be disrespectful towards me." And when I got in the shower, she ran out the door and went to I guess the neighbor's house is my understanding. >> All right. >> And I have pictures of all the injuries the one Yeah. If she trying Yep. And I pinned her to the floor and I told her, "Please stop. Please stop." And she tried to hit me again. And then I called my mom, let my mom know that she ran out the house. I called my boyfriend, let them know that she ran out the house. I didn't know at that time that she went to the neighbor's house. But I guess the neighbor is the one who contacted my mom and told her that she contacted you guys. So I just went to my job and I told my job, "Hey, I have an emergency. My daughter and I got into an altercation." And that's why I was leaving my job because >> No, you're okay. It's all good. It's understandable. >> And her father is also aware. They know that she's been an adolescent, so he called me from California and said that he's going to get her in the operating like that's involved. >> And his Ryan? >> Ryan who? >> Ryan, okay. >> Which she was actually flying out next week. >> Oh, uh Lydia's supposed to fly to him? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> summer. >> Oh, yeah. All right. >> So and everybody's very much aware of her grades going and dropping and her attitude changing in the last >> It's so it was just you and Lydia in the house and everything all this stuff happened, right? Are there any cameras in the home? >> No, unfortunately, no. >> Okay. And then like in the past, has any Has she ever like done anything like that to you? >> Yeah. >> Like can you describe any of that to me? >> Same thing. >> Same thing like so Can you tell me like what it is? >> very upset and she gets very emotional and then I tell her, "You can't talk to me like that." >> Yeah. >> She'll talk to me like, "You know how the kids are nowadays? Like >> Yeah, I know. >> Duh duh duh, it's like, "You can't talk to me like that. Like I'm your mom, you know?" And just pretty much telling me that she's going to get me arrested and this and that. And I said, "Well, you can do whatever you have to do. My job is to raise an independent functioning adult, you know?" And I'm trying to teach you manners and respect. And unfortunately, you know, with these kids nowadays, they're so equipped to call the law enforcement the minute that, you know, things don't go their way. I was signed up for flag football. I've had a flag football coach come to my car, tell me how she's acting up the whole time and she's disrespectful. In front of the coach, she was being disrespectful saying, "Oh my god, I didn't do that." That and that, like, you know, drama queen. She's 13. Same thing happened that night. Um she gets mad, disrespectful. She yells at me, calls me A lot of it I think is because there's friction between her and her dad. He was in jail for 10 years. We just did a custody battle. She has to go out there mandatory for 6 weeks, and I don't know if this is leading up to that. I don't know if she's being I don't I don't know like what did she say, you know? I don't really know. She doesn't open up to me, but when it comes down to the >> Is she taking any medications or anything? Is she diagnosed or anything? >> No, I haven't taken her to the doctor for anything. To be honest, I've just been doing trial and error trying to hope that this is just a phase. Everybody tells me that girls go through this phase, so. >> Give me 2 seconds. I want to move my car out of the way, but I can do >> Yeah, no problem. >> Is that a deputy Lucy? He's going to hang tight with you and talk to you a little bit, okay? >> Like everybody's against her, you know? Nobody's for her. So, a lot of it just comes from being spoiled. I mean, this week again, she had a friend over all weekend. She didn't want to hang out with her mom after work, go to the beach. I bought her DoorDash. I bought her things, you know? And she's just becoming really spoiled and thinking that I'm supposed to just let her stay on the internet all day and her crazy whatever they want, and this is it. This is what I'm supposed to deal with. And I told her that's not how it works. >> Do you have any other like marks, injuries from today? >> I just have like I mean, I don't really know. I just know that that's what my boss and them pointed >> Pointed out to you? >> Yeah, that. >> They said there's like scratches on your chest. >> Yeah. >> Right there. >> You know, and uh really I just the pictures I've sent from my coworker. >> Now, I got you. It's still an investigation, right? You're saying she charges you, right? >> Right. >> All right. At point in time, you're just grabbing her to hold her down? >> Yeah, and then she starts uh while I'm grabbing her, she starts >> Okay. Was that like a closed fist? >> Honestly, it happened so fast, and with the scratches, I can't tell you if it was like with my her fist or not. I think it was more so that just like trying to do like this and like just, you know, and trying around. She grabbed my hair like this. She grabbed your hair? hit the wall. Like there's a bunch It was so many different things that happened in the moment and I pinned her down. >> Okay. And where did this whole altercation take place? >> It took place right by the stairs and there's a little area. I don't know what you'd call it, like the front front living room, but it's not >> the >> designed for living. More like a dining room area. >> Okay. So it's closer to the front of the house and like the dining room. >> Yes, sir. >> Okay, that's where this took place. >> Yes, sir. >> So you're saying she's charging at you, she pulls your hair, you So you grabbed her by the arms. How do you grab her? >> Honestly, I feel like I can't recall everything at this moment cuz my anxiety is very high. >> That's fine. It's very hot in here. >> So yeah, and I'm just very distraught with the whole thing. But it just happened so fast. >> I got you. >> I just recall at the end me telling her, "You can't disrespect me like this. I'm your mother. >> Okay. >> And if you don't respect me, you're not going to respect anyone in this world." >> Fair enough. >> And I said, you know, I just screamed at her and told her and she's like, "You hate me. You hate me." And I said, "It's not that I hate you. I just don't like your behavior." >> Yeah, yeah. I got you. >> And then when I got up after I went to the shower to get ready for work and then that's when she ran out. >> That's when she ran out. >> Yes, sir. >> I got you. So as far as her, like when she was on the ground, right? Do you remember like the part after that, like the physically like what happened, like you getting up off the ground? >> I like I just said I have very high anxiety to remember everything at this moment. Maybe I sit down and relax a little bit and I can recall exactly every step that you're asking. >> How about this? You How about this? We take 5 minutes, right? Sit in the AC for a little bit. Please don't close the door. We're still in contact with you. Just so she don't do that. >> Yes, sir. >> Think about it for a little bit and I'll come back and talk to you again, okay? Is that okay? All right. I'll be right back. >> The conflict began over a dental appointment [music] and quickly escalated as both sides struggled to remain calm. One was navigating a turbulent age while the other was under emotional strain. >> This is Deputy Joseph. He's the one who's taking a report and conducting the investigation. >> Okay, thank you. Um she was walking a little bit slow to get out of the building and the secretary said, "Oh, she's coming, but she's moving very slow." And she started giving the lady an attitude saying, "I'm not moving slow. What are you talking about?" Blah, blah, blah, like talking back. And so I told her, "You can't do that." We walked out and I said, "You need to go back in there and apologize." Then I asked her whose headset she had. She had a pair of headsets from her friend. said, "These are $100 headsets, Beats. Can you please give them to the lady and have them returned to their owner cuz we can't be responsible for that." So then she scoffed at me. We go to get to the dentist and we're talking about all her responsibilities that she has been doing, brushing her teeth twice a day, making sure, you know, certain things are done and chores around the house, whatever, whatever. We get to the dentist. The dentist said that we don't start till 1:15. I said I have to leave work at 2:00. Is there any way I can get an Uber to bring her home? The dentist said, "No, she can't stay here by herself." So at that point, I rescheduled the appointment for Friday. And then we were still discussing on the way home the different things. When we got home, she started raging out, basically calling me a bunch of different things. She charged me and I just hit it to the floor. All the actions in between I can't 100% explain because it happened so quickly and so fast. So when I got into the shower, she decided to run out the door with no shoes on and now I'm understanding the other side that she went to the neighbor's house and they contacted you guys and here we are. Um I was contacted at work by my mom, that the neighbor contacted her and I was headed home and then that's when they stopped me here, so it's a very stressful and a challenge. I do have both of my kids' parents on the line just so that if we need to, you know, get my kids or whatnot, so we can make arrangements through you guys cuz my mom said that you guys have on her. She did come home from a girl named Johnny's house on Friday with with her Saturday. I'm not quite sure what day it I cuz I've been working nonstop. >> what? Those were >> No, they were horse playing, but I can't tell you exactly everything. I just know that they called me and pretty much she showed me like on her arm and like on her either I don't know what rib or something like that. So, I don't know exactly how the I just told her, "Damn, you and you know, you shouldn't be horse playing like that, you know, to where it's, you know, causing a path, so." And that's basically everything in a nutshell, so. >> And then you said you were you were disciplining her? >> Yeah, I was just telling her that I'm taking her phone away and that's when she charged me because the situation that I was dealing with. >> she charge you exactly? >> Well, at this point they've asked me to remain silent just because I can't recall exactly what happened and then after that because it happened so quickly and I was trying to get to work so I wasn't late. I just started this job. >> So, you don't want to talk to us anymore then? >> I do. I don't want to be disrespectful, but I I don't want to you know, I don't want to feel like I need to, you know, like tell you every I can't recall every scenario that happened at that moment because it's I don't know she was in the moment. And um obviously we're here and this is not a great state of mind. And I mean I'll tell you she's been a straight A student since January. Her grades started slipping in February. She's been hanging around the wrong people. She's been in school suspension over in out of school suspension. The counselor has asked me to contact her. I have contacted her several times, but since the seventh grade counselor is unavailable because the eighth grade counselor passed away, she's taken on two jobs and she hasn't really been able to contact me. So, that's just where I'm I'm at. I know that another thing that's been bothering her is she feels like I'm forcing her to go to California, which she's supposed to leave next Friday to visit her dad. >> For the summer or something? >> For the summer for six weeks and um she's been very angry at me that I have made an agreement with her dad. We went to mediation and he agreed to pay child support. I have to give him time sharing. It just is what it is. He's your father, but he did a 10-year bid and she feels some type of way cuz she hasn't really been in his life or he hasn't been in her life and really messed with all this acting out and changing groups of friends and boyfriends and all these things started going downhill, so >> The mother's challenges [music] may invite understanding, but the law does not allow a child to be placed at risk under the label of discipline. As a result, she must now face the related legal process. >> Okay. >> Can you do me a favor? Can you step out of the vehicle, please? Do me a favor, turn around, place your hands behind >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. >> Is my phone there? >> My car is still on. >> Okay, we'll we'll take care of that. Can you step over here away from the door, okay? >> Okay. And are you arresting me? >> Yes. I'll put this in the cup over here. >> That's fine. Yeah. Can you not do two two times? >> Yep, I'm making sure Yep, I'm making sure I got it. Yeah. Yeah, I'll I'll I'll loosen that up, okay? Mhm. >> Thank you, guys. >> We're going to walk over here to the For what it's worth, we appreciate you. >> No, thank you. Thank you. >> I know it's a crap situation. >> Okay. >> Some people act differently. >> No, I I understand. >> You've been nothing but respectful the whole time. >> I appreciate that. Thank you, guys. >> Awesome. If you want to just do me a favor, you step up here real quick. >> Yes, sir. Thank you, guys, so much. >> Like I said, we're not here to make your day any worse than it already is. >> No, I appreciate it. Thanks, guys. Yeah. Hey, Courtney, it's Brooke. >> Hey, what's going on? >> Hey, I wanted to let you know they did detain me and I'm headed to jail for the night until court in the morning. So, I know I'm off tomorrow, but I know obviously Aca's going to put a flag for me not to be able to work with this type of investigation cuz they are arresting me for Um so, I'm I'll be in touch with you or my attorney will Um I guess by the end of the week or you know, I guess we'll just take it from there. >> Yeah, we are. I'll let you know what's going on, okay? >> Okay, thank you so much, Courtney. I appreciate you. Thank you. >> It's easier to do it here than there. >> I appreciate it. I'm so scared of going in here. >> The mother was charged with child abuse without great bodily In a state like Florida, if convicted, [music] she could face a sentence of up to 5 years in prison and or a $5,000 fine. Children, even during emotional or defiant stages, are still learning to understand the world [music] and manage themselves. They need guidance, patience, and above all, an environment stable enough to grow. Not every 911 call begins with shouting or obvious tension. Sometimes, it stems from quiet fractures in a relationship that is slowly falling apart. >> Can I help you with anything ma'am? >> I can I get a >> for a report? >> Okay, what's going on? >> Uh my wife uh she just hit me. >> Okay, do you need a paramedic? >> No, I'm fine. >> Okay, what's your wife's name? >> Jacqueline. >> Is she intoxicated at all? >> No. >> Does she have any weapons on her? >> No. >> Okay, those are just questions that I have to ask. And is your wife still there? >> Yes, she's still here. >> Okay, I'm going to get someone over there, okay? >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> On January 13th, 2025, police received a call from a husband stating that his wife had acted beyond appropriate boundaries during a dispute. The couple was reportedly in the process of divorce. During such a sensitive period, both materially and emotionally, what consequences might follow from her actions? >> Hi, how's it going on? >> Uh so basically my my my wife she went to my truck for some reason. When she came back, I I asked her for the keys, she punched me, and she pushed my ear. >> Okay, where she at? >> She's right here. >> Hello. >> So he's constantly tracking my truck. We're going through a divorce. >> I'm not tracking your truck. I told you that. >> He told me I was not allowed in my own home. >> But you cannot Jacqueline, you cannot Look at my ear. >> he took my money from my pocket. I was giving him the keys. >> to you separate from her? Anywhere you want to go. >> So I don't know what he's talking about. He saw everything, my son. I did go to his truck, like I said, he's always like tracking my truck, always. >> What's going on? You called, right? >> Yeah. >> What's going on? >> So, basically, she She said, "Look at your ear." Where? >> Yeah. >> Where? >> She She punched me in my ear. She punched me here, and then she punched me in my ear. So, >> what's going on? What happened? >> She went to my truck to to see something, I don't know what, and asked her, "What are you doing in my truck?" So, I'm trying to get the keys, and then she just grabbed me, she punched me right here, she punched me right here. >> While you guys were outside in the truck? >> here. >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah, well, she came back >> keys at? >> She had my keys. I'm like, "Give me my keys." She gave me my keys. She hit me right here, and she hit me in my ear. >> Okay. Did that happen right here? >> Yeah. >> Okay. And this is your wife, or who is this? Okay. And you What did she want to do with your truck? >> I don't know. >> You have no idea. Okay. So, what do you want done? >> I want to press charges. >> You want her arrested? >> Yeah. >> Okay. You want to go You'll You'll go up to the station and all that and sign complaints? >> Yeah. >> Okay. You'll be able to go to court and all that. Who is this? Your daughter? >> My daughter. >> Your daughter? Okay. All right. What Did Did you put hands on her at all? Is she going to say that? >> No. >> No. Okay. Do you need an ambulance or anything? >> No, I'm fine. >> No. Okay. Let me talk to her real quick. >> He's supposed to be out of the house to start off. >> We're sorry. We were inside talking to the parties before you got >> know why she's still here. >> Just explain to me what happened today. >> So, he's always tracking my truck, so I went I did want to check his truck. He uses my truck every morning. I don't have a problem with that. And he's always tracking my truck, so I went to check to see if he was tracking my truck, cuz he has trackers, you know? So, that's what I went to check. So, when I came back inside here, he's like, "Give me the key." I was like, "Give him the key." And then he grabbed my money, and I'm like, "Give me my money." And he didn't want to give my money back. So, yeah, I did something, but that's because he had my money. He saw. Like I I didn't get crazy or nothing. >> No, I know, but >> Are you two married? >> Yeah, but the divorce is almost final, and he had left the house >> Until it is final, that that vehicle is both you guys' property. >> Right. So, >> I don't know why he's getting mad that this both of our stuff. Like why is he getting mad cuz I'm going to a truck? First of all, like I said, he tracks me down. I'm tired of him tracking me down. So yeah, it's both of our uh our truck. So I don't know why he's getting mad. >> The wife described the incident from a different perspective. Yet both shared one common point. Each believed they were the one at a disadvantage in the situation. >> So you want to talk to her and tell me what happened? >> I don't know. She said she took the car. She tried to give him the key >> He was driving the car? >> No. She was trying to give him the key. He took the key and I grabbed money. And she tried to get the key >> Yeah, he took my money out of my pocket. >> back. And he pushed me. >> He pushed him? >> Yeah. He just called her a lot of I can't tell what words. >> Yeah. He's He's saying you punched him. >> I didn't >> You Talk talk to me. Don't don't talk to her. Do Just talk Just talk to me. All right? >> Because he took my money out of my pocket. I was coming in here. >> It was in your pants pocket or in your jacket pocket? >> I was going to take out the keys and she >> Where were the keys? >> In my jacket. >> With the money? >> No, I had the money on this side and the keys on this side. And I'm like, wait, I had those bags in my hand. So when I took out the keys, he still came and took my money. Like why is he taking my money out of my pocket? >> Yeah, but you pushed >> Okay, so like he said, it's our both of our trucks. You drive my truck every morning. >> You guys are married, so technically it's it's both your money, it's both your truck, yeah. >> is he getting mad? >> I don't know. >> I don't understand. >> But did you >> He's just mad cuz No, I pushed him because he took my money. He has Right, he has hit me before. I got I got um reports that he has hit me before. >> Yeah. >> And yeah, I dropped the charges >> up Okay. >> Yeah, he was locked up. I dropped him because he don't got papers and you know, my kids. But he shouldn't even be here. He had told his lawyer he had left and he forced his way back in here. The cops came, they took the keys away from him. And I'm still being nice and like >> Can't be nice. But here's the thing, you can't be nice cuz then you get in a situation like this. >> And he's always tracking my truck. That's the thing. And he's always >> going through a divorce or something? >> What? >> Are you guys going through a divorce? >> Yeah. >> Yeah, we're getting divorced. >> Yeah, the divorce is it might be um done this month. >> Okay. >> And he knows why we're divorcing. I don't want to say it in front of the kids. >> No, no, you don't have to. That's fine. However, the husband provided additional details to support his account. You guys had a >> She she pushed me I took a picture of it. >> You have a picture? >> Yeah. >> Are you outside at all? >> No, we're over here. I I was trying to take my keys and she pushed me, she punched me, and she punched me right here two times. >> Have you guys had problems before? >> Yeah. >> We've had domestic disputes, too. Yeah, we've had arguments. You guys have your own room for license? Something like that. All right, you're adamant about this? >> Yeah. >> You want to Okay. >> It was this information that led officers to proceed with the wife's temporary detention, casting a heavy atmosphere over the home as the children began to cry and the mother appeared overwhelmed by the situation. >> All right. Well, unfortunately, you said you pushed pushed him, he's saying you punched him. Either way, you're going to have to come with us. All right. >> Can you call my mom? >> Okay. Just make it real quick. Normally, we don't let you get called, we just take you right away, but since you got kids, I ain't trying to fight with you or >> He's just mad cuz >> make a scene in front of the kids, all right? >> mad cuz I'm keeping the house. >> Do you have shoes other than slippers or do you Is that what you want to wear? >> No, let me change. I'mma go I'mma go to the station, Helen. >> Here Here's the thing though, if you change, I have to I have to be at least able to see in to the room. >> Can you call the police? I'mma get locked up. We're not the same person. >> WHAT THE HELL YOU DOING HERE? >> [crying] >> HELLO. >> I LIVE DOWNSTAIRS. >> OKAY. >> Um you could hear everything downstairs and you can always hear how this man is always >> Okay, what are you doing with today? That's it. Are you their family? >> Yes, I live downstairs. >> Okay. Did you have anything to do with this incident today? >> I didn't but I could hear everything. >> Okay. I can see you didn't see anything. We're not going to deal with that. >> But I'm a witness. >> You didn't witness anything, did you? >> I heard everything. >> Okay. You didn't witness anything. I understand what you're saying but you didn't witness anything. >> Here's the thing, she already said that she put hands on him first. >> But for >> That's battery, okay? >> Okay, that's fine. >> So, go ahead and grab some socks and shoes. Yeah. I can explain all that but here's the thing, this this is the the law. I've got no say so. >> Okay, that's fine. >> I can lose my job if I want to. You know, and I'm not trying to do all that. Are are you you said you're family, you got a jacket or can she grab you jacket or do you got a jacket somewhere close? It's pretty cold. >> I'm really cold. >> Well, you can only have one jacket. I mean, you can only so Okay, let me let me see it real quick. You got no knives in here, right? Came into the police department. Here you go. >> You're going to have court tomorrow. >> Did you get my ID VA? >> Adam. I think I got one on me. >> So, in this situation >> You're sure you can't call Robert to let him know? >> You be able to come up to the station in about an hour? >> Okay. >> That's fine. Thanks. >> So, you're going to take your phone, she can take her phone, right? >> She can take it, but she's not going to have access to it. So, it's up to you. >> Hey. >> I think she could always call her phone. >> I just took my phone and everything. >> Okay. You got it? You got everything? >> Yeah. >> All right. Can I invite anybody? >> I'm going to put on my case. >> Okay. Go ahead. Go ahead, step up. Sit down. 2721 can you mail custody? I'm locking them so they don't get tighter on them. I'm going to hold on to you so you don't fall over. What is today, 95? Over to >> That's fine. But, he cheated. >> He was a prostitute to me. >> I I understand that and I'm sympathetic to it, but but you can't you can't place your hands on him even plus even a >> Yeah, but he didn't >> You got it? If you try you you you can defend yourself. >> Right. I could defend myself. I didn't know he was going to put his head to my jacket to get my money. >> All right. Have a seat. >> The next steps were completed with the appropriate authorities in accordance with established procedures. >> All right. Step on out. We'll go over to this elevator, right? Step in. As a 1603 All right. Step into that up right up to that counter right there. >> Here? >> Yep. Yeah, actually slide over right here. Over here is fine. Yep. Perfect. All right. Have a seat back in there. I'll come get you in a little bit, all right? What's up? >> Is that all right? >> Okay. Hey, how are you doing? I'm going to give you this. This is information how to get an order of protection. I just have to give it to you by law, all right? So, just go ahead and read over that when you get a second. And then this, I just need your signature right here and right there. >> Is she going to have court tomorrow? >> No, she'll have to go to court tomorrow. So, yeah, we'll we'll have her till tomorrow until she goes to court and sees a judge. What's that? No, for that one you don't have to be the next one cuz that's just bond court. So, then the one after that, you should get something in the mail telling you when the next court date is. And that's the one >> Is she going to be in for like 2 days or something like that? >> She'll get released tomorrow afternoon sometime. Yeah. All right? All right. >> The mother was charged with domestic Under Illinois law, if convicted, she could face a prison sentence ranging from 1 to 3 years. Children are often the ones most deeply affected by conflicts they did not [music] create. A peaceful childhood does not happen on its own. It is built through calm, responsible, [music] and caring choices made by adults each day. >> He does a good job in supporting this household, and I don't want him to go to jail. >> Okay. This woman had been under significant pressure, but due to financial dependence, she felt compelled to defend her fiance say. On January 24th, 2025, [music] police responded to a residential neighborhood after receiving a call about a family dispute. At the scene, the woman attempted to reassure those present and calm the situation. However, >> [music] >> visible signs of distress on her face and damaged household items suggested a different account. >> What's going on? >> We had an argument, and everything's fine now, so I just want to leave it as is. >> Okay. Well, tell me what happened. >> Okay. >> Tell me what happened. >> We just had an argument and he didn't lay his hands on me, but he did um throw some things and broke some things, but we're separated and everything's fine. >> Okay. So, what's up? Your eyebrows? >> Yeah. >> How did that happen? >> Well, he uh threw something and it hit me. >> Did you want medics to check out your eye? >> No. >> Okay. Is there anything else that elbow or something? >> No. >> Okay. Can you tell me again? Negative on medics. Tell me again how that happened. >> He was throwing some things and I was in the way and it just happened. >> Okay. What about him throwing stuff? Was he >> Mad. >> Mad at you? So, mad at you? Mad at >> Both. >> World? Mad at >> Everything. Everything's fine. He's calmed down. >> What was the fight about? Do you feel like you can answer? >> I don't even know. No. Just he was just upset with me. >> Okay. Uh where were you at when you >> In the closet. We have like a walk-in closet, so Yeah. >> Um Were you trying to stay away? Were you trying to get close to leave? Were you trying to >> I was getting clothes to change. And he didn't want me to change. Everything's fine. >> Is he still in the house? He didn't leave? >> No. >> Um >> I'm sorry to waste your time. >> You're good. I'd like to talk to him for a little bit. >> Can we go out there? >> As soon as As soon as the other guy gets here. What's his name? >> Alex Wade. >> Alex? >> I don't want anything to happen. >> When did you guys move in here? >> What? >> You guys moved in here pretty recently? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Do you mind if we come in? >> Um go around to the other door. >> Okay. >> I have a cool space. I had another one I was working on. Um but this got dropped out of the truck, so ignore that. But yes, this is where I work, sleep, watch TV. Everything's fine. >> The couple had known each other for only about 4 months [music] and were already engaged. A rapid progression in a relationship where signs of emotional strain had begun to surface. Once again, officers faced challenges [music] as the woman was financially dependent on her boyfriend. >> So, what started all this tonight? >> Just an argument. Drinking when we shouldn't have. >> Okay. Um So, argument happens. Three started hitting the doors more. >> Mhm. >> Um that's how that got broke? >> Not all the way, but some of it, yeah. >> Okay. Um Was he hurting you at all? No. He's never hurt me. >> Okay. >> No. Like he genuinely is a good guy. He just got upset. >> Yeah. So, what what exactly was happening while he was hitting the closet? How did you >> I was in the closet on a piece of wood. >> Okay. But he wasn't like attacking you. He was just angry. >> No. Yeah, he just was angry. It wasn't like intentional. >> [snorts] >> You promised you that I would tell you if it was. >> No, I get it. I know. We've talked before. >> Yeah. >> Um how long have you guys known each other? >> For 4 months. >> 4 months? And you guys are dating? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> I'm we're engaged. And yeah, I took my ring off cuz we were fighting and he got upset, so. >> Okay. I get that. >> Yeah. >> What's up with the coffee table? >> It It got tossed. Tossed. The thing with him is like it it's never towards me, >> Mhm. >> but it's it's just he gets angry and things around us get thrown or punched or whatever. >> Okay. >> This is like literally the second time that's ever happened and I get why he was upset. But I really don't want him to go to jail. He has a good job and he's supporting this household and I don't want him to go to jail. >> Okay. >> I feel bad for calling and like wasting your guys' time. >> Well, it's not a waste. I mean we got to be here for you. So. Um could you show where you were standing when the door incident happened? >> In the closet. >> Door was open, one door open, one door >> closed. >> [clears throat] >> It was just like this, but I was getting my stuff out of the drawer and it just happened. >> Okay. How did the hole get in the door? >> Huh? Probably from me wiping it and closing the door. >> Okay. And you don't want to see medics? >> No. >> Okay. Um can I go talk to him for a minute? >> Yeah, can you not take him in the truck? >> Well, I mean I I do need to talk to him first. We got to get both people out. >> He He's on one and just wants to go. Can you just not take him? >> Okay. Um, do you want me to go back around or can I just go talk to him? >> You can just grab him. [music] >> What's his name? >> Hollis. >> Hollis? All right. >> He says they want to talk to you. >> Despite the mother's objections, officers proceeded [music] with detaining the man after determining there were probable causes under Colorado's domestic conflict regulations, and that the children's well-being had not yet been fully insured. >> I don't think so. There might be a Viking I have my driver's in my pocket. I'm still wearing wearing work jeans. >> Okay. >> I don't know if that's it. But I have you got two layers on. >> Okay. >> Uh, we're going to go to the back. >> And uh, nothing that's in between the layers should poke through. I don't know what's in this jacket, the leather one on the outside, but nothing is. >> Okay. Um, you know, it's all having a dinner in a month or something like that. >> She says it happens, so I'm sure it did. >> Um, you were going to thank you tonight. Is there anything else in here that got broken? Brian, right? You go by Brian? >> No. >> You have any idea >> Brett. >> Sorry, you are under arrest for that. >> Okay. That's what's happening right now. 405 bucks. Well, you have to pay. >> Um, hold on. >> Can you take your hands out of your pockets for me? >> You want this light if you stay. Okay, that's fine. >> Let me know. >> I kind of have to, Michael. >> Why? >> That's the way the Colorado state law is written. Is that one too tight on you? >> No. Let me know. >> I don't have a choice. >> Why? >> The way the state law is written, I have to make an arrest tonight. >> No, you don't. >> Unfortunately, I do. >> No, you don't. You've came to me before in worse situations and you haven't. >> I know, but this is where we're at tonight. >> But why? >> For domestic >> I >> Okay? >> I just wanted the situation to be deceased. I didn't want this to happen. >> Okay. >> Can we please talk? >> Uh just a moment. Brian, you got any guns on you, anything that's going to put me in danger in any way? Okay. Just a second. Yeah, that's right there. Nathan, where are you? We got all those shells Yep. >> Fire extinguisher >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> I don't have to. >> What? >> Wear a seatbelt. >> It's our policy, yeah. >> I'd rather not. >> Does that Does that violate a law if you do? >> It does. I'd rather not have a seatbelt. >> Okay. Did you get this fault, too? You set off >> The real confusion began shortly after, not [music] from the person being detained, but from the woman herself. >> What time did you get here today? >> I have a 911 call. >> What is he doing? >> Um he asked for all of his belongings from the car. >> Okay. >> So, here's the thing. When people are in a relationship and then something like this happens, we have to arrest somebody. The law says you >> Arrest me. You just arrest me. Please. >> You're the victim. >> Just arrest me. >> I get it. >> I've been in jail before. It's fine. >> I get it. >> It's not a big deal. >> I get it. >> Just take me. >> I get it. I can't arrest He's the one that broke the door. So, he's the one that has to go to jail. >> So, what do you see like this happening? PR bond or what? >> So, because it's domestic violence no bond until he sees a judge. >> Oh, damn it. >> Which will be probably Saturday. >> Oh my god. >> He might maybe tomorrow, maybe. I'm not sure what the court's schedule is. >> Can I just say one thing to him? >> Um at this point >> civil. I'll be a civil. Can I just say one thing to him, please? >> It would be better if you didn't have to. >> Can I can I just say one thing, please? I >> to tell him? >> That to call me and I'll be there to get him out. >> So, there's going to be a protection order in place after this. >> Oh my god. >> So, he won't be able to contact >> Yes, he will. >> Not supposed to. Okay. >> Okay. >> I know it's frustrating. Sometimes this is how this goes. >> I just wanted the situation to just stop. I didn't want all this to happen. >> But like I said, my hands are tied. >> No, they're not. You're just in your vest. You can un vest your everything. >> I can't. That's not the way the law is written. >> Okay. Well, thank you. I'm sorry. >> Sorry you're having to go through this. >> It's okay. Can I just say one thing to him? >> It would be better if you didn't have to. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Good night. I'm sorry. I cannot make heads or tails Are you an idiot? >> Yes. >> Okay. All righty, sir. You're going to be A C officer. >> Sure. >> All right. >> And what was the first >> And what is your last name? >> Breland. >> Breland? Okay. All right. One more minute. Close it. That's what it says? >> Yeah, that's what it says. >> All right. Go ahead and step out for me. We're going to cut to this location. I opened it up. Come on in. >> The man was charged with domestic and criminal mischief. Under Colorado law, he could face a prison sentence [music] of up to 2 years. The children, though not seen in the video, were clearly affected to some extent by the adults' conflict. If the mother continues to defend her fiance [music] over time, it could lead to consequences no one intends. No one expected that a teacher, someone meant to be in a classroom guiding students with knowledge and trust, would one day find herself in a moment that tested both her responsibility and her composure. >> Woah, woah. Stop. Put it in park. >> On September 26th, 2024, a passerby noticed a car left running with its brake lights on. Inside was a woman who appeared unresponsive. They quickly called the police. When officers arrived, they discovered that the woman was a teacher and her three young children were at home by themselves. >> 270 I told him Frank and Frank was with >> Ma'am. >> Got it. Anything on her? Got to be 21, she's alert, conscious. >> Can you open the door? Can you open the door? >> Can I get the license plate? 96 Julia Juliet >> Can you open the door? I can't hear you, the window's up. Open the door. Woah, woah. Stop. Put it in park. >> Uh what happened? >> What's going on? >> I was coming to my girlfriend's house and we were there. >> You said >> I don't know what happened. I see his car's brake lights are on. >> So was it like just slowly just going along? >> was just sitting here. Plus she had her brake lights on as I'm sitting here and I look out the window and she just punched in the mirror. She wasn't there. Did she give you any hell? I banged dude. I banged on the window. Give me my ID. >> Yeah, please do that, okay. >> Door. Who's getting the door? Door. I can't get the door. >> He's hitting me. I'm not doing anything. >> Hey miss, you want to step on out? >> her if you don't have to. >> We're going to need you to get out. >> I haven't done anything. >> Okay. We're going to need to >> After regaining consciousness, the teacher appeared anxious, repeatedly saying she didn't understand what had gone wrong, and tried to rely on her professional background to explain herself. >> I didn't do anything. I didn't do anything. >> Do you mind just stepping to the rear or I just want to talk to you for a second. >> They're screaming at me. >> They weren't screaming at you. They were screaming at us. Here, come on. >> He's saying I didn't do anything wrong. >> Yeah, here. Come over here so we're out of the roadway. You're going to be able to come closer out of the roadway. There you go. Come on. You're almost there. What What's your name there, miss? >> Are you serious right now? >> What's your name there, miss? >> I'll sit over here. I'll sit over here. >> I didn't tell you anything like wrong, seriously. >> I'm just asking your name. >> The tag I gave you doesn't connect to the DMV. The other guy doesn't >> Wait, hang on, miss. Can you Can Can you Can you Can you talk to me over here real quick? >> didn't do anything wrong. >> I know, but can >> Why are you making me worry? Like I I'm a good person. >> Can Can Can you >> Do you have a female in the vehicle there? >> Why are you stressing me out? >> I told her to get over here. I was telling her to get over here. >> Seriously, I'll park over here. sit for 18 hours if you want me to. I ain't trying to do all this really. What is this? >> I was taking the kids to >> I'll park over here. I'll I'll I'll do nothing. >> Yeah, I was just asking. They just found it out. >> Yes, I know. I ain't trying I ain't doing anything wrong. I didn't do anything wrong. >> All right. >> I live right right up the street. I'm just trying to seriously. I ain't trying to do all this. >> All right. All right. >> I'm doing I'll I'll I'll >> I hear you. >> You can You can pull my car over there. I'll sit. Please. I'm not trying to do anything. >> All right. Sorry, do you want me to do the deals? >> No. Oh my god. >> All right. 2100 Okay. That address is trying to make contact with family members to make sure Do you take any medications at all? >> No. No, I'm trying to go home. I live right there. I'm right there. Oh my god. Oh my god. >> Well, here. I just don't want you wandering around in the roadway with >> wandering around wandering around. >> There is some cars coming by here, so just >> Please, by all means. I live I live like a block that way. I live a lit- literal I live in Woodville. It's right there. >> Yeah. >> This is the middle school. I live right there. I'm not trying to do anything wrong. Please, by all means. I'm a teacher. I am not trying to do anything wrong. >> All right. You teach here at >> I teach at Linda Loma. I'm Please, by all means. I am not trying to do anything wrong. Stop. Please. >> Now, listen. We're just >> You want to drive my my car home? I'll park here. I'll sit here for a minute. >> her uh heading for the address? >> Come on. >> All right. Hey, Kim- Kimberly? Kimberly? >> She went on to share her personal challenges hoping for some understanding from the officers. >> I'm a teacher. I'm a teacher. >> I have my partner has one off. >> I'm just trying to go home. >> How old How old are your kids? >> They're 8 and 15 and 5. They're I just I'm trying to pick up my [ __ ] bell. Please bell means I I would never. >> I just want to let them know I think I should go. >> I swear I I swear. I love the deputy. >> Got her on the phone. >> I'm not lying. >> I'm on route 76, exit 1D. A male's trying to rip her out of the car. I can stay with you on the line. >> I'll sit if you want me to sit. I'll I'll go if you want me to go. Whatever you want me to do. I'm not Like I'm I'm going to I'm like going to walk away. There This is the the middle school. >> I'm going to check you out. But you're obviously not going in the right direction to go home. Where you at? >> Police continued their investigation, confirmed her identity, and arranged a health check to ensure she was all right. >> I guess if someone's home like her like her is able to get someone. I'm on a 45 Staples I did her in front of you. >> So, what Where were you going? Where were you going? >> Oh. >> Oh, I know I know you wanted to go home, but but >> [ __ ] >> I understand that that's odd that you were >> EMS checks her out. Okay. All right. Thanks, man. Right now, I'm just I'm not aware of her whereabouts. I don't know where I last saw her at. Basically, All right. >> Do you have anything to drink in there? >> Not really. I know there's a lot going on, but can you check your records for a 10-28 and see if there's any names associated with this vehicle or something? All right. >> Where do you live? >> So, they made it to 76 and tried to rip her out of the car, right? >> I don't know why I was so panicky. What we got? You want to turn her phone over for VRL? No, I just want to see what names pop up with the address. I don't know if she's in any of those there or not. VRO, Kimberly Conrad, V Kilmer, Mary Dushansky and a Don Dushansky all attached to that address. All right, copy. >> When officers observed signs suggesting she might not be in a proper condition to drive, they asked her to perform a standard coordination test to evaluate her alertness and motor control. >> I said this, please. Probably safe to say you're sorry. Exactly. Okay. Hey, Kimberly, one last thing, okay? Now that there's nothing medically wrong with you. You mind if I just check your eyes make sure you haven't been drinking or anything tonight? Yeah, I just want to make sure you haven't been drinking or nothing. All right. Are you able to like slide your glasses up on your head or or hook them on somewhere? Whatever. It's going to be a little bright, okay? But I just want you to focus on the tip of my finger, okay? Can you see that? Wave it back and forth. Just try to follow it with your eyes and your eyes only, okay? You don't have anything medically wrong with your eyes at all? Okay. Don't move your head, okay? I know you're probably squinting because of the brightness. Are you able to kind of like open your eyes? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no, cuz cuz it was a little squinty. A little bright, okay? I just want you to keep following the tip of my finger with your eyes and your eyes only, okay? Don't move your head. All right. You're doing very good. I just want you to follow the finger tip of my finger up, okay? >> Despite her explanations, the results showed she seemed to have some difficulty completing the coordination test. >> Do you have anything medically wrong with your feet at all? Any balance issues? Any Anything of that nature? Okay. We're going to use this line as a as a reference, okay? I'm going to describe this test to you. It's called the walk and turn test, okay? Basically, what I want you to do is I'm going to explain the starting position to you and I'm going to put you in the starting position, okay? While I explain the rest of the test. Using this line as a reference point, all right? Nice clear flat terrain. So, you're going to be your right foot in front of your left foot with the >> In front of you? >> Yeah, it's going to be your right foot in front of your left foot with your right heel touching the tip of your left toes like so. Your arms are going to be down at your side. All right, so actually if you want to just do that right over here, that'd be perfect. Yeah, right on here. And then you can face me. And then it's going to be your right foot in front of your left foot with your arms down at your side. Now, just stay in that position the best you can, okay, while I while I explain the rest of the test to you. So, you're going to take a series of nine heel-to-toe steps while counting out loud on each step. And it's going to look something like this. One. Two. Three. I just did three for demonstration purposes, but you're going to take nine, okay? All while counting out loud. All right, once you get to that ninth step, okay? You're going to Yeah, yeah, of course. Absolutely. Once you get to that ninth step, you're going to take a series of small choppy steps to turn yourself around on this line here. So, you're going to get to here, you're going to take a series of small choppy steps, and you're going to count out loud again. One, two, nine heel-to-toe steps all the way back to your starting position, okay? Did you understand all that? >> Nine steps, yeah, sure. >> All right, so listen, don't begin until I tell you to, but I'll just remind you your arms are going to be down at your side and you're counting out loud, okay? >> All right. >> All right. You may begin whenever you're ready. >> One. Two. Three. Four. Five. Six. Seven. Eight. >> Okay. Perfect. >> She appeared tired and emotionally overwhelmed. >> The next uh >> Watch your back. >> I don't know what you're talking about. You can't close me out of this. >> Who the hell is this guy? >> Okay, listen. That's good. >> The next test I'm going to have you do, okay, it's called the one-leg stand test, okay? It's more of a balance test. Again, you have nothing, medical issues, nothing wrong with your any balance or any any legs or anything? Oh, well, hang on. Hang on. Don't I don't want you to fall over. >> No, I'm not falling over. I just >> So, >> This is like, come on. >> Kimberly, I'm just going to I'm just going to I know, I'm just going to describe the test to you, okay? So, the test is going to be the one-leg stand test. What I'm going to have you do, the starting position again, I'm going to put you in the starting position while I explain it. It's going to be both your feet together, just like so, with your arms down at your side, all right? So, if you want to get into that starting position now, you can do so. What I'm going to have you do is you are going to raise a foot of your choosing, your left or right foot, 6 in off the ground, okay? Toes pointed out, and you're going to look down at your toes and count out loud, 1,001, 1,002, and so on, okay? And you're going to keep going until you count to 30. Do you understand that? >> can't prob- Okay. All right. >> So, arms down at your side, >> But seriously though, >> one one of your feet out, and you're going to just balance and count out loud, 1,001, 1,002, 1,003, until I tell you to stop. >> Okay. >> Do you understand that? >> Yeah. >> All right. >> Sure. I don't I don't think I do this like, you know, on my best day, but okay. By all means. >> All right, don't begin until I tell you to. All right. You ready? >> Yeah. >> All right. You may begin. >> One, two, three, four, five, I'm not I'm not very good at this to balance. >> Do you not want to do it? >> I mean, I'm a [ __ ] I'm a block that way. >> Okay. >> Based on their observations, officers determined that further review was necessary and [music] decided to escort her for additional evaluation. >> I'm so sorry. >> Kimberly, listen. >> I'm so sad right now. Like I should I should have just went and went home. And I should not $10 is not worth the DoorDash, to be honest. >> Based off what I have so far, I have suspicions to believe that you're under the influence of something. So, I'm going to place you under arrest for DUI. All right? >> god. >> So, listen. I just need you to put your arms behind your back for me. >> Are you kidding me? I can't even right now. >> okay. I'm going to talk and explain everything later. All right? >> I'm so sorry. >> Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Listen. Just keep your arms behind your back. >> I'm so sorry. >> We'll talk more back at the station, okay? I just need to >> Oh my god. >> Thank you, sir. >> I'm really sorry. Oh my god. Oh my god. This crazy. >> Yeah, I got 7777100450. Can you start 10? Copy. 2335. >> Kimberly, I just have to ask. Do you have any um personal belongings on your person? I know you have a hoodie on. >> No. Oh my god. I'm so sorry. >> Okay. Hang on. Hang on. Listen. >> I have kids at home. They're by themselves. >> You don't have TO DRIVE HOME. >> I CAN'T DO ALL THIS. This is crazy. >> All right. Listen. I understand. >> Oh, no. No. No. No. No. I'm a [ __ ] block away from home. >> Is there anything in the car that you need out of it? Like >> No. I'm a block away from home. >> All right. We're past that. Kimberly, we're past that. Kimberly, do you have your Do you have your phone that you need? >> No. >> Is your house keys on that key chain? >> Stop. Yes. >> Okay. Okay. We'll get that. We'll get that. >> Oh my god. You're [ __ ] kidding me. You're [ __ ] wrecking my life right now. >> Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. >> I love the [ __ ] police. This is [ __ ] great. I I I have no absolutely no more support. >> Can you guys get her cell phone? Is your cell phone >> Yeah, I don't know where it is. >> Oh, hey. This way. This way. This way. Yeah. Sorry. Hang on, Kimberly. Hang on. >> No. No. It's not the worst. It's not This is not right. This is not right. I mean, there's 80 million other people in the world that are doing the worst. I'm a [ __ ] >> This way. This way. This way. >> from my house. Y'all can follow me right here. >> Yo, can you take a pic of that? >> Get that. Get this. >> Yeah, if you want. I mean, we're not We don't log it anymore, but if you want to take a picture. >> Go on. Get this. >> Can you take a pic where you found it? >> Right. Cuz you you want to Go on and get All right. Go on and get. >> At that point, she told the officers that her three children were home without adult supervision. >> By all means. >> I can't believe it. I'm going to have you take a seat in here, okay? >> This is [ __ ] crazy. This is crazy. I can't I can't right now. This is crazy. This is crazy. I have [ __ ] kids at home. I'm trying to do Yeah, if you want. All right. Yeah. >> Here, we're going to seat belt you in, okay? So, go ahead and do your seat >> Oh, yeah. I'm so totally safe. I have [ __ ] kids at home that that are waiting for me, but by all means. >> Yep. >> Oh my god. This is >> Yeah, which one is your house keys on there, Kimberly? >> Why? >> Because we have to tow your car. >> Those are my work keys. I have work tomorrow. >> I think Chip has the uh >> That's the problem. >> absolute teacher. >> know. >> That's my work keys. >> Do you want these? >> Do I What do you mean, do I want them? Like, I want to go >> Well, you can't do that. >> I can walk home. I can walk home. I can leave the car. >> During a search of the vehicle, police found an item that required further clarification. >> As long as Chip has the keys. >> Yeah, I think he's got the keys. Bottle of Scope in there. >> Yeah, you're good about the Scope in there. >> Cell phones? >> Cell phones? >> House keys? >> Very good. >> I have her files. I'll take this I was going to just take a picture where it was. I >> I don't know how to get I'll take a picture of her phone. >> Yeah, cuz I >> I don't want to put it back and take a picture. It's a little weird. >> Yeah, I mean >> It's really weird that we found it. Three quarters drank bottle that's behind her back seat. >> Chase in her front seat. >> Yeah, I'm going to get her out of here. >> I will walk home. Can I walk home? >> Yeah, I just didn't want to >> Can I walk home? >> Got you, got you. Is Okay. Appreciate it, fellas. >> Yep, no problem. >> All right. >> Have fun. >> My friend >> Yeah. >> Can I please walk home? >> I cannot let you walk home, no. >> Why not? >> Unfortunately. >> Why not? >> Um cuz I arrested you for driving while intoxicated. >> The teacher was initially charged with driving while intoxicated and later refused [music] a breath test, resulting in additional administrative violations. She was released on bail shortly afterward, but the case remains pending due [music] to her failure to appear in court. Whether a teacher, a parent, or anyone else, we are all human. When we forget to take care of ourselves, we risk losing the very things that matter most in life. Also in Florida, a father lost to his son in a video game and what happened next turned a simple family moment into a serious conversation about parenting. >> If you don't intend to injure children, you can physically >> You intended to strike him though, didn't you? >> That doesn't mean I intended to injure him, does it? >> Yeah, that's still touching you. >> On December 26th, 2022, police received a call reporting a family dispute between a father and his son. What began as a playful game escalated after the father lost, prompting officers to step in and listen to both sides of the story. >> So, how are you doing, man? Officer Martinez, Lake Havasu Police Department. >> What seems to be the issue today? >> So, um he was just we were just playing a video game and I beat him and then so he started playing again against some CPU and then he lost and he got mad cuz I don't I don't remember what it was. My brother had said something and then he started hitting him and stuff, and slapping him, and so >> Your brother? >> Yeah, and like hitting him. And then um >> How old is your brother? >> Nine and 10. >> 10? >> Yeah. And then um >> Where is your brother now? >> Uh he's in the house still. And then he And then he said, "You're next." And then he ran away and I got to the door and I ran. >> You have the video on your cell phone? >> Yeah. >> There's a video? Video of what? Him uh hitting your brother? >> I think so. I tried to get some. I'll get video at the end. >> Is your brother at the house now? Where is Where is Where is your brother's at? >> Yeah. >> Hey, so this is what I want you to do. Go follow me to the address and stay a couple houses down, okay? >> When officers arrived, they entered the home and spoke with the father, who calmly said he hadn't done anything wrong. >> Hey, you know what? Do me a favor. Is your brother at the house? >> Yeah. >> All right. >> All right. >> What's going on today? >> Um I don't What? >> All right. Well, the complaint is that your son is doing a bomb right now. >> Show me the video. >> Video? >> Of the video. >> Yeah. >> You didn't get any of the other child? >> I don't know that. >> Well, it's on video. >> Okay. >> Oh, he's fine. >> Yeah, he's fine. I saw the whole thing. He's fine. Here you go. >> Divorce dispute, okay. >> All right. >> What's What's your name? >> Yes. >> All right. You're all right, buddy? >> Yeah, I'm fine. >> You sure? >> Yeah. >> Okay, just look up for me, buddy. Okay. What >> were you and dad doing? You and dad doing? >> I was sleeping. >> Um, he was trying to do something to me. >> Because he is an >> No, he's not. >> So, I think we're going to face it because he lost a video game and >> That has nothing to do with what happened. That is his mom manipulating the situation. >> I saw the video. >> You saw the video. It's because he lost a video game. He wasn't even playing a video game. >> Calling him a [ __ ] disgrace for not being an athlete which is okay. >> Uh, if I want to raise my kids how I want to raise them. If I don't get >> What does the Florida law say? >> It's capital punishment, right? >> No, that is not true. And are you in Read your law. >> The discussion soon shifted to parental authority and the fine line between guidance and excessive [music] control, a topic that still sparks debate today. >> Well, sir, I'm going to explain something, okay? Corporal punishment has an extent and based on the video based on the video that we saw, okay. Who else is here? >> Who else is here? >> Yes, sir. >> Well, clearly me, my daughter, >> Okay. >> and my son. >> It's nobody else. >> There's nobody else here? >> No. >> Okay, where's your other son? >> Uh, he left. >> Okay, is there a reason why you haven't called us to report him missing? >> Because he told me he was going to his mom. >> Okay, where's his mom? >> And he's a teenager. If he wants to leave and go to his mom during a marital dispute, what do you want me to do about that? I can't do anything about that. I'm aware of that. My lawyer, I've contacted my lawyer since he left. He said, "You have to let him go." >> So, you have no parental rights in controlling your son. You have to let him walk out the door. >> I have to, yes, according to family court law. >> I don't know what lawyer you have. >> aren't involved in that. I know that. Okay, I don't know what lawyer you have, but you guys aren't in law to step into custodial issues. >> If your child leaves in the middle of the night and it's 45° out and you don't know how long he's been gone for. >> He's 14 years old. >> What legally makes someone an adult, sir? >> Uh, really? >> Yes. >> Because if any of my children decide they want to go to their mother, I've already been through this three times already. You're saying police department >> Did you call your wife and make arrangements for her to pick up your kids? >> to? >> Do you need to? >> Yes. >> Where does your wife live? >> What is your right in family court? >> You got to be barefoot right now, right? >> The father explained that his actions were meant as discipline, but Florida law states that even with good intentions, certain behaviors toward minors may raise child welfare concerns. >> What do you want me I cannot physically if I would have physically controlled him to stay here, you guys will be arrested. >> No, because I said >> Yes, you would. No, you would have. That's a legal restraint of a minor. >> You're his parents. >> That is corporal punishment. >> No, we don't have a marital agreement yet. We're still in court. I called my lawyer. He said you cannot physically restrain him. >> So, what happened between you and your younger son? >> He leaves all the time. >> Your younger son here. >> What's what's up? >> Can you just be safe with me? >> Yeah. >> That is really like that. >> Is it No, I got it. >> His His ear is pretty red from when you smacked him in the side of the head. >> His ear is red cuz it's cold. >> Yeah, who is it when were you going to >> Are you guys serious right now? >> So, what level of force >> I did not intend to injure any child that I've ever had. >> That would have made me want to get >> Really? >> Yeah. >> The video indicated what? >> I have kids and I would >> Would you discipline them in what like like you said? >> To a certain extent when it comes to corporal punishment, okay? >> No, don't No, there's no such thing as corporal punishment. >> Well, you know what? Do me a favor and turn around. >> No, no. >> For what? >> For what? >> For what? >> For what? >> For what? >> For what reason? >> For what reason? >> For what reason? >> YOU GUYS HAVE TO ANSWER me that question. ARE YOU GUYS kidding me? What's the reasonable suspicion to detain me? >> Stop >> Stop resisting. >> Are you kidding me? >> This is what >> What are you doing to me right now? >> Because what? I disciplined my kids under the corporal law? Are you kidding me? As long as I don't intend to injure my children in my apartment, that is my right. >> Also, does the fact that you're intoxicated and you're being uncooperative >> Yeah, I can smell the alcohol Where are you from you. You can laugh all you want, sir. >> Oh my god. >> Yeah, my their mom >> perfect. >> The officers continued their conversation, emphasizing the importance of understanding the difference between setting boundaries and crossing legal limits. >> I did nothing wrong under Florida law. >> Okay. Well, you and I obviously have a different interpretation of how you deal with your kids, okay? And you guys don't get >> that's what Florida law allows. >> You guys don't get Absolutely not, sir. >> You guys don't get If you don't intend to hurt your children, you can physically >> You intended to strike him, though, didn't you? >> That doesn't mean I intended to hurt him, does it? >> still child abuse. >> But you're not Without No, no, you're not understanding. >> No, you're not understanding cuz >> You don't understand Florida law. I've known these for 2 years under my lawyer's advisement. But you guys know better than my lawyer, right? Right? You guys know the law better. Correct? >> Did you talk to your lawyer? >> Okay, yep. >> You guys are perfectly perfect. Always, police. >> Me messing up your kids' Christmas? >> Yeah. Oh, you Because you don't dis Because you disagree with how I help me. That's what you guys both have told me. You disagree with >> I think the state of Florida knows that. >> No, that's fine. Right? Am I incorrect? >> You can disagree with the state of Florida all you want. You arresting me is completely unlawful. >> Police completed their report, notified the mother, and ensured the children were safe. >> Do I understand? >> If he said that to I just needed to mess up his Christmas. >> No, I I understand. And like I said, I have a son myself, and that's that's hard to watch that video as well, you know? There's a difference if, you know, there's a there's a line that you know, you can cross, and it was, you know, definitely crossed. >> Like 2 and 1/2 years ago, we got into a fight, and they arrested me because he said that I hit him, and the dog actually bit him. So, no charges were filed, but I was in the middle of taking a custody, and then I never came back to the house. And it's been This is what he does when he drinks. >> Let me check your head, buddy. >> It's a little >> Okay, how did that happen? >> When he and I did >> That's when you were leaving? That's when I I got him off of me and he landed on top of my head. >> So what was the point of him punching you? Just because he was mad and then that's when you tried to leave or was he trying to prevent you from leaving? >> I wasn't going to leave until he started to cuz he was going to punch me. >> Your head, your body, your neck, anything? Can I come out and look? One minute one minute one minute. >> You got a little red spot there. >> Yeah, I know. >> Let me see the other side of your head again. Cuz your ear was really red right there and like purple. All right buddy, you can sit in the car, okay? >> So you have no injuries you said? >> No. >> Do you want me to call the EMS to check on you? >> No. >> My son doesn't need it. >> My wife has called y'all seven times. This is the first time I've been putting cuffs. >> The father faced charges of battery, child child and resisting arrest without under Florida law. He could face up to 12 years in prison and $12,000 in fines. There's a very thin line between guidance and overstepping. Understanding that line and maintaining self-control and emotional awareness is essential for every parent who wants to raise their child with love, patience and respect. Some families may appear to be trying, yet inside they have been exhausted for a long time. The decisions shown in this video do not necessarily bring relief. They simply make the situation clearer and sometimes that clarity is difficult to accept that affection alone is not enough to balance a strained environment. Children do not need a perfect home. They need a place where they feel safe and supported as they grow. Don't forget to like, subscribe and turn on notifications to stay connected with us. See you tomorrow. >> [music] >> Ooh.