she the only victim she's the only victim [Applause] she someone died this isn't a game this is like a big deal this isn't like oh you stole a car and didn't go to school like someone lost their life dude it is a cold febr uary night in Denver Colorado where the mom of a young child is fighting for her life after get this a 14-year-old allegedly shot her over a fender [Applause] bender I'm just going to keep some pressure on it okay yeah hey she took quite a few four ground the face how many is she the only victim she's the only victim [Applause] she First Responders rush to help the driver identified as 32-year-old Pamela cabrieles who was allegedly shot multiple times at a stoplight we see if I can find an Ida in her purse [Applause] yeah I don't know how you want to do this you want to put the seat back so we can get to her hey Scott hold that seat it's not going is there anything behind the seat no call electric hang on I've got it what's your name can you tell me your [Applause] name I'll get might be a Pamela is that our yeah I'm trying to find my D is there more than anybody else no it's just one person could you hold that open while look please next the officer walks to the back of the car where shattered glass and apparent bullet holes can be seen through the rear window [Applause] hey start looking for a first gotot the purse I found the purse I had no ID in it no ID no ID here we get a look at the windshield where investigators said they counted eight bullet holes one right here who's following who's following F Brown 163 163 Baker hey you got gloves n trial gloves uh I got one there's one here pick it up and there's one over here pick it up all are you okay your [Music] [Applause] car oneing ready I counted eight shots eight yeah there's one right above the left windshield wiper so that's two out of like right there device is played that's probably hers that's the same one as the on the back okay that's [Applause] probably I don't think Halo doesn't have camera here do they I think they record 163 David to the cars Pamela is rushed to a hospital where she later succumbs to her injuries leaving behind a young child social media posts show the mother sharing a fun evening with a friend and enjoying a Sunset View before the tragic event a stark difference from the suspect's [Music] posts I got some chees cheeseburgers face here let me suck your ugly that show the teens playing with an assault rifle and a handgun yeah Bo up [Music] hours later an officer recognizes the as salent car from a previous incident involving shots being fired into a McDonald's the teens allegedly LED police on a short Chase before crashing and running into a neighborhood where two of the suspects can be seen running down a sidewalk before making a quick about face and running in the other direction but it doesn't take long for residents to figure out something's up and for police police to respond and arrest all three suspects now it's time for investigators to get some answers first up the accused shooter 14-year-old Remy Cordova faces questioning let's see how that goes they asking about somebody named l r Baby D they said bab they asked if you got go by w I should know I don't so that totally different yeah are you guys done talking yeah I'm going to turn the video back on okay yes sir MH do you have my phone number I do okay don't forget on the phone either got you I'm sorry okay it's still February 21st 2021 according to that clock it's now 10:05 p.m. and I've given you and your mom uh opportunity to talk about this this investigation um let me ask you um did did you understand the rights as they have been explained to you yes sir yes do you have any conflict with your mom that would prevent her from providing you with guidance and advice about your rights no with these rights in mind are you willing to talk to us about this investigation no sir no no okay by I'm going to ask uh Remy to sign this form that's indicating that he does not want to talk to me about this investigation sign that X did it that's okay yeah all right I'm going to go ahead and shut the video off it's 10:07 p.m. a.m. I'm sorry Remy remains tight lipped under advisement from his mom a luxury he is just allegedly taken from another child but but our next suspect is not so quiet let's see what 18-year-old Nan Johnson the alleged driver has to say so Nishan I just want to figure out what's going on what happened if you could just kind of take me through the events tonight where you were what was going on who you were with and don't worry about me writing you don't need to catch up just go and I'll catch up with you I'm just taking down some some things don't worry about any of that okay that's just for me so if you want to just start work backwards or forward however you want to do that I mentioned westbound kofax d25 do you know what I'm talking about with that no okay well let's talk how just your night went where you were let's start with that I was with my auny and my god sister on it was like Jewel it's like behind it's Federal on Jewel behind and McDonald's I was there all day with them and chilling with D and then I left but around what 12 11 no it was like 11 cuz I think police got behind us what like like around 12:00 so they came Pi me up 12 so like all day I was with my god sister and my baby mom's okay is that it yeah okay when you mentioned 12 are we talking 12: noon during the day or 12: midnight at night like towards night CU I I was there I was at my baby mom's then I left and then I went to my cousins and then they um my pond came pick me up Nan initially denies any knowledge of the shooting and weaves together picture of what happened that the detective quickly unravels okay so probably around I say 955 I started texting him okay telling him be Tred to probably be on their way and they came around what 11 so okay well who is with him when he comes it was him okay and I asked it cuz you say they when you say they it leaves me and I'm not trying to trick you I'm saying they leads me to believe there's more than one person if you're not saying he came to get me you're saying they came to get me so who's yeah who's with him when he comes he had a pner in the car okay but I didn't know him so I don't I don't deal with him you feel I wasn't even talking to him so where was he sitting in the car he was in the back sheet okay is he when I came out by the time I came out he was in the back sheet is he black white or Hispanic he um to me honest he looked it white to me you feel me but I wasn't really paying attention to him okay it was he kind of slim like yourself or kind of husky or fat like me okay I don't know you catch his name nuh I when he's seated in the back of the car where is he at behind you driving now or behind no he's behind Lil row okay L row okay do you see anything in the car when you get in she any weapons or anything N I wasn't really trying to be on that you feel me I was trying to go on to want see my kid and [ __ ] next the detective asked Nan why he fled from police before the 18-year-old story really starts to fall apart the police was on the side of us he gets to the to behind us take a right and then the Poli was just following us and the ice was so like snow was slippery I couldn't like stop and hit a turn mhm and after I st to hit a turn I had like slick hit the like curve so when they turned their lights I ain't going to lie N I just did the dash on it you feel me but then after the car was too slippery and it the car the car up you feel me that's what I did why tell me more about why you didn't stop cuz I don't have no driver's license I ain't going to lie that's the only thing if I had a driver's license I pulled over but I don't have no driver license so when you see the police on the side of you you're driving you make the turn hit the curb they light you up you decide not to stop when you notice the police who notices them first you or the other two guys in the car to be honest we all did because they was right next to us tell me more about the conversation going on in the car about the 5 being next to you we were just like police right next to us I was like I'm going home okay Lil row or the other guy in the car the white guy we call him white guy yeah did they appear to be nervous or yeah they seem it nervous but to me you feel me yet in G you're young you feel me you see police everybody going to get nervous cuz I've been there before I was I was what he 16 so I be 16 before mhm you feel me so I'm like man cool you I'm going home we're going home nothing's cooling out cool you feel me and I I don't know what did did Lil row or the guy in the car talk about being on one or being that they had heater in the car or being concerned about the police bumping you guys up with anything in the car now see they didn't tell me trying to worry about nothing they was like big bro cool you feel me they was like I guess they were trying to hide it from cuz I get on their ass you feel me y'all doing something stupid you feel me come to my house [ __ ] we could eat food treat whatever y'all want y can come to my house y' don't have to do no Dum feel me cuz [ __ ] I just got through done done doing that group home foster home so I don't want to be done in and out of jail I got two kids I got got two little girls so [ __ ] anything anybody younger than me I take them under my wing and I try to show them any anything better okay and they know if they tell me anything stupid I'm going go off on them so that's probably the reason why they didn't tell me nothing whatever they did okay before they came cuz i' been on and then I would even got in the car like what is y'all doing okay like come on cuz don't I'm mad they put me in a predicament like this anyway like n don't put me in no predicament like that but so tell me about how long does this when you hit the curb they light you up being the police they light you up you take off how long does this go on for not even long cuz the ice was like this D wasn't trying to go for so like after I hit a dip I go up and I do spin and I just hit the um whole thing oh um what's that called the pole okay not the Paul down and then what happened then I just hopped out why' you do that cuz I a I hate Paul I hate the Paul and then I got I ain't going to lie I sleep panic I get the spin I police I was just ran out the car then after that I just and then after I didn't know what to do I just stayed in the shed I was like um I don't know what to do like and then that's when the team came came in I was even going I was I was like I didn't know what to do what little row would the other dude do they ass left too they ass left me I just went in the shed like I don't know I stayed in the shed that's where they called me so who was in the shed with you me just you yeah they we all after cuz they was the first two out cuz you see if you see the car the car is like parked like the driving seat was on a tree so you couldn't open the door okay so I had to like climb out the front the passenger Nishan explains how he allegedly crashed after hitting a slippery patch of the road but that won't be the only slippery slope he's headed down as this interview continues by the way what do the body cams on Long crime prove maybe that the world is unpredictable right and sometimes when those scary unpredictable situations arise having a great lawyer matters and that is where our great partner and sponsor Morgan and Morgan comes in no they don't just make great hats as you see right here no this is a firm with over a, attorneys you know why they have so many because they win a lot in fact in the past few months Morgan and Morgan secured a $29 million verdict for a bicyclist in Philadelphia $2.7 million verdict for a car accident victim in Florida and $5.6 million for a car crash victim in Georgia after insurance offered that client zero dollar and even if you think your case isn't worth millions of dollars Why not start a claim and fight for what you deserve and Morgan and Morgan makes it so simple you can start a claim from your phone in just eight clicks so if you're injured you can easily start a claim at four the people.com lcam Channel or click the link in the description and pinned in the comments in the [ __ ] tell me more about when you run you dump anything you take it off I just take off okay out how many fences do you hop I didn't even hop with anything I mean I did hop two okay but that was like right there I was already right there and the did you know the area very well where you hell no I I I don't even know Denver like that I'm from Georgia I mean I'm from here but I moved to Georgia I know Georgia better I'm like no Georgia my body's in Georgia now to be honest clay Co southide but my mom wanted me out here cuz I have a kid out here too so she wanted me to be out here my kid okay so the tell me more about getting into the shed I was just in the shed and I went to sleep after I went to sleep I hear people and then that's when I was in the shed and that's when the dog came in okay dog come in he like I'm surprised the dog didn't attack me I ain't going to lie like I'm sleep blessed today cuz the dog didn't exactly tack me he smell me walked away smelt me again walked away then after that when like SWAT team came in that's when he started tripping for real like when he like when the dude said I or some command he was on it and that's when he Chi me he CH my back in my foot I was like none of that I want to get bit whatever yall say was like okay at any time when you're in the shed did you meet up with Lil row or the other white guy no they never came back so was you in the shed all by yourself mhm nobody else was with you no and was it in a front yard a backyard uh I was in like the back medium like that was weird type to be honest I you know shed it was n did you know whose house it was n the detective asne sha multiple questions focusing on specific details and soon enough you'll see why what is the conversation in the car really was no conversation in the car but they could go I'm sorry I said it ain't no it wasn't no conversation in no car but go but go yes why was that I don't know okay earlier you told me cuz you didn't have a license yeah like I I don't have no license but that's what they was telling me you said what was the conversation okay you feel me you said what conversation did we have while the police was was behind us and who was telling you to go little bro he was like bro go you feel me I mean don't have no license you feel I'm not going to pull off the little bro say he was hot n like [ __ ] go go okay you know how you know how now days just Young Generation going to run from the police or do anything from the police now you feel me so so you listen to him so you listened to him and you went that's how it was you feel me Tye [ __ ] okay from the point you saw the police to the point that you uh it get slippery and you end up crashing mhm how much time passed I don't know how much would you say a minute 5 minutes 30 seconds I say a minute okay and then when you crash what do you do get out the car run okay anybody tell to a shed huh and go to a shed and went to the shed I was in all right anybody go with you to the shed no did anybody follow you no by myself okay you're in there by yourself yes I was in there by myself the whole like thir two three hours I took a naping on where were where was Lil bro and the white guy they left we all separated when we hit the tree or hit whatever we hit we hit it we ran all ran out the car there were tell you there were any guns in the car no okay do you know if there was no okay Saturday any chance did tell me your activities uh before Leander picks you up what' you do while you're were at date did you just hang out did you go anywhere no I was over my baby did you over the did you go to a firing range at all no did you handle any weapons at all Saturday day no handle any weapons Saturday night no see any weapons in the car when you got in with little bro and the white guy no okay in that one minute when you see the police and then you go you you crash you get out you dip and you go to the shed you say by yourself right yeah anybody give you anything before you got out of the car anybody ask you to hold anything Nan admits to being alone in the shed and having nothing handed to him multiple times before the detective reveals an important detail okay you know why I'm asking all these questions because the shed you were found in those shell casings match at our murder scene can you explain that to me and you said nobody in the shed with you okay you're in there by yourself but the same caliber shell casing that's in the shed where you're at is the same caliber at our murder scene can you explain that to me if nobody handed you anything nobody handed me nothing okay so how did that end up in the shed with you m oh I ain't going to cut it I don't know okay so what I'm asking you this is your chance to be honest okay and I'm not saying you're not so please don't be offended by that okay but I don't know is not going to cut it as I told you before when we first started it's a homicide investigation I told you you're not free to leave okay you remember that okay if some if if you were there for something or somebody asked you to hold on to something I need to know okay and not just for myself but for yourself you got a kid right too you want to see those kids grow up yes do you want to be able to hold them and not be behind glass when you see them or do you want them to come and visit you during yard time again I'm not threatening you I'm not upset with you but I'm telling you this is the road we're going down you're digging yourself a hole here so if you if you have something you know something Nishan Now's the Time to tell me okay you tell me you were by yourself when you I'm sorry when you ran nobody else was in that shed I asked you several times that question you're adamant nobody was okay so it's one of two things either you were there at that murder scene or somebody gave you something to hold on to so now is your chance to help yourself don't dig yourself a hole you got one foot in this hole right now Nisha okay I guess you're at a fork in the road right now what would you like to do you want to tell me who gave you something or if you were there come clean and tell me ain't give me nothing and I wasn't there okay white boy just hopped out with me okay but I didn't know he had nothing you feel me and cuz left the [ __ ] I'm sorry he did what he he went in the shed with me you feel me he came in the shed with me and him but then after that cuz left you feel me that's why I was the only in there cuz he was like police in here cuz they about to come in here and they left and I wasn't F to just because wasn't going nowhere okay so I stayed in there right on everything he came in there with me he dropped all the shells and then after that guys was like BR the police bro and freaked out and left man he ain't tell me nothing on everything he was when we got in there he I heard I was like hearing pennies like I thought it was pennies at first cuz I didn't know what was in his hand and I was like bro stop I was like bro stop before police coming or something they hear you I was like all right bro and I didn't realize it was shs on there until police SL the light you feel me but I thought it was something else like he was playing with panties or something I was like bro stop like bro stop playing with that bro he was like bro my fault bro and then after that n when the police came [ __ ] they was shelves so and again he I think he dropped the shells and knew he was he was the police was going to come in and then just leave you feel me because he didn't tell me he was leaving cuz I swear to God I took a nap I was took a nap and then when I heard like the dog I woke up and I stood up and the dog smelled me passed me by cuz that's what really tripped me out when the dog just smelled me and just left I was like what and then that's when the SWAT team came in they looked at and I [ __ ] why would I seen the light I seen a shell I was like oh hell sea suddenly remembers that there was allegedly another person in the shed with him before even more details of his initial Story start changing as well You' been honest up to me to this point you're saying did you ever see any guns did they ever talk about the heaters they had n they they had a gun in the back sheat tell me about that but I don't know what type of gun it was that's okay I just tell me he was like we got a gun in the back sheat I was like hold on who said that the white dude in the back he was like you know I got the gun in the back sheat and I was like that's cool for you and I can't driveing like I that wasn't I wasn't really paying attention to that I was said you know I got this gun in the back seat this gun in the back seat and that's before that's when I like right when we was at the light is this when the 550 pulls up or before so tell me more about that how does that conversation come up I walked in I like I walked in you walked in where that conversation like I just walked in that conversation tell me how you walked into than one% said cuz I opened the door and you know when you like not want to hear nobody like you don't want like me and you talking and pretend somebody walk in we just stop talking sure that's what happened that's what they did yeah they being little little bro bro you feel yeah and they just stopped talking I walk in okay I was like [ __ ] what's good he was like N Pull off he was like bro no I got the heat in the back seat who says that white dude and where's he at in the back seat so I'm like all right Co that's good for you that's exactly what I tell him that's good for you and I kept driving like I wasn't I mean I was but he again that's not mine he none of that you feel me so keep driving but I wasn't paying attention what does the little bro say the bro was on the phone with who I don't even know okay what was he saying he was um he was saying after he had dropped me off he was going to go over there Nan now says he was allegedly told there were weapons in the car after previously stating there weren't any the detective ends the interview with nwn and moves on to another teen who was allegedly in the car identified in the previous interview is quote white guy uh just kind of run me through when I mentioned this uh this location do you know what I'm talking about that kofax in I25 tonight or what happened last night can you take me through that just from the beginning there who you were with what was going on was with my friends he was driving right down down 25 whatever and then we stopped and then the car hit us in the back smacked us and my friend in the front he asked the person in the driver's seat if he could sh down and he got down and started shooting him okay I didn't hear you quite so if I have this wrong correct me you said you were stopped at a light we were stopped at a light and someone came from behind us and smacked us with their car okay and then that's when my friend and the passenger asked the person in the driver if he can shoot him and then the person in the driver said yes and he hopped out the street shot and then he drove off okay how many people were in the car with you two so there was how many total including yourself two including three yeah okay where were you seated I was in the back seat okay who is driving my friend's friend okay do you know his name do you know what he looks like yes or no yes if you saw a photo of him do you think you could IDE yep okay can you tell me if he was black white hispanic black okay about how old was he okay anything identifying about him scars Marks tattoos facial hair piercings right here okay what was that he has a big tattoo right here big ass tattoo right there the teenager gives his initial story before the detective asks for more detail else so the car behind you guys smacked into you yes your friend Remy asked the driver if he could shoot this person yes why I don't know he just asked him and he say yes okay and when he started Ling off I told him to get back in the car okay tell me more about when Remy gets out of the car he pulls the chop out and then at first it was he said he was on safety so he flicked it off of safety and then he I me though that shop that's Little Rock okay I'm confused okay okay so you say the chop I know what that is Aon your mom may know what that is people watching this later on may not know what that is what is a chop AR15 AR-15 yes okay what color was that black black okay so you're saying that the other kid asked Remy to shoot is that what you're saying no Remy asked the other kid if he can shoot and then Remy hopped down and shoot at any time did you get out of the car no I told him to get back in the car okay and what does he do tell me more about that he just kept shooting and then he finally got back in start yelling at his okay how many times did he shoot he lit up like seven rounds okay did anybody pick up anything there on the street did you did anybody pick up anything did anything fall phone bullets anything from the car fall out of the car that anybody picked up I don't know okay do you remember what kind of car smacked into the back of you guys it was like this white car white car yeah it was a white van like a white van yeah okay do you remember if the driver of that car was male female black white hispanic I don't know don't know I don't know he just helped out I started shooting I told him to get back you heard that right the witness says Remy was allegedly granted permission to shoot Pamela after asking N Sea the driver if he could what time do you think you guys got there I don't even remember okay when you leave the driver's baby Mama's house at 6 in Dayton you're driving to where next we were driving to his Auntie's house okay so you can go see someone di was in a house or something the driver's Auntie's house yeah and on the way there the car had smacked us and then that's when I went off so you never made it to the auntie's house yeah we didn't we didn't make it to the auntie's house before that happened okay but after that happened they skirt it off to the auntie's house okay skirted off meaning you guys drove to the auntie's house yes okay um do you remember the route you guys took when you left the baby mama house down kofax straight down kofax yeah okay any issues with anybody driving straight down kofax uh- yes or no no okay tell me more about what you're doing in the back seat are you guys I was sleeping okay when the car smacked you guys from behind what were you doing I was I was listening to music okay on what on my phone okay the teen claims to have been asleep in the car after the incident this will be important later he doesn't have service okay no service do one of those Wi-Fi things when you can yeah fair enough Infinity Wi-Fi okay infinity or Wi-Fi yeah just normal Wi-Fi all right when you're listening to music how hard do you think the car smacks you from behind tell me more about that smack up like this hit my head okay and then that's when Remy start getting mad and that's when he asked him if he can shoot him and he started shooting at him and then that's when I was like get in the car [ __ ] what are you doing like okay what are you doing was there any verbal exchange between the person that hit you guys from behind hell no okay he just hopped out and started shooting it okay that car you were in how many times you been in that car that was like the second time okay when was the first time like a couple days before that okay whose car is it I don't even know okay fair enough so the car smacks you guys what do you do after Ry gets back in the car I told him to get in the car and then he and then the person in the driver screwed it off down kofax okay where do you guys go down kofax to where no I don't know exactly where he went to his house but we went down kofax how far like we we just went straight down until when we got to like Union okay and then what did you do that's when he went to his Auntie's house okay where does the auntie live I lowy I remember I was sleeping okay were you asleep when you pulled up yeah I'm just sleeping and then when they woke me up is when they woke me up on like they woke me up past Federal cuz they said that the cops was following us okay how did you know you guys had been to the auntie's house because I had like when when he was inside I had woke up for like a couple like a couple seconds and I saw he wasn't in there so I was like w he's pleasing D house okay after Remy shoots what does he do with the AR puts it in the car where where at in the car he put it in the back seat okay where you're at yeah on the left side all right where are you seated on the right side behind the driver or behind Ramy behind the passenger okay so you're behind Ramy at first he put he puts it in the car and he has it next to him like right here on the floor okay and then he puts it into the back going down kofax after the shooting yeah after we like when we get closer to his Auntie's house okay that's when I just fell asleep I don't know you remember nothing else did you see any other guns in the car beside that one yes or no yes okay next the detective questions this witness about the guns when the reality of the situation appears to set in had you ever seen either one of those guns prior to last night I've seen the the toys before okay had you seen the AR before I've never seen the AR before okay have you ever had that okay at any time last night Saturday night baby Mama's House driving before he fell asleep did you ever handle that AR meaning hold it touch it no if I print it am I going to find your fingerprints of your DNA on that gun no okay I didn't handle that gun okay I might have pushed it over but I was not handling that gun okay it was Remy that's his gun all right if you would have pushed it over and touch it what part would you have touched so I know like on the top like on the stock they they call the stock on top right here like and then like right here like next to the trigger like you know the little piece that comes down like this yes sir yeah like right there cuz I had to move it away from me I pushed it over okay and that's where my be okay before you fall asleep what's a discussion in the car about what just happened they don't even say nothing they're not even talking okay at any point even after Auntie's house do you guys talk about this no cuz I got woken up to getting yelled at the cops are chasing us okay and then that's when we crashed right tell me more about being woken up the cops are chasing you guys was like bro the cops are chasing us they're behind us bro they're behind behind us and then I woken up and I was sleeping in the back and I was like what and I look behind us and the cop is right behind us following us and then the the driver starts going fast and then the cop turns the lights on and then we go down this one street and we hit a big pothole and then that's when the car went up and then he lost control and then I just I don't you remember all I know is I just got out the car okay what' you do when you got out of the car started walking at the BL walk did you walk or run if you ran that's okay I started walking the other two Ry he was running I was just I was just jogging I was like okay because like I didn't like I didn't know we like did something I don't know he did something like hold on a minute like I didn't know like something that bad happened I didn't know someone got killed well but he fired an AR into a car what did you think was going to happen I don't know okay fair enough he said he said he was trying to aim towards the engine okay tell me more about that when when was that discussion that was after okay tell me about that that was like when we was going down kofax okay he was just like he was like I was trying to hit the engine who was saying that Remy did he know that he hit the person in the car oh no that's what he was asking you what was the discussion after it happened I don't think he even knew he killed nobody but he said I i d was trying to hit the engine so what does that mean he was trying to blow up the car okay when the car crashes and you walk off why don't you stay there because like there's guns in a car I'm not going to lie to you it was a stalling car I didn't know that until a couple days before like yesterday so so that's why I was jogging and then yeah that's why you were what I was jogging up the street okay like I didn't I didn't take off how they was running cuz they was running fast I was just I was just like speed walking the teen says Remy was quote trying to blow up the car by shooting at the engine but that doesn't exactly add up with the scene we saw earlier let's continue okay when you take off do you meet up with either Remy or the driver you had a driver tell me about that I met him in when I was walking I saw him in the alleyway okay where was he he was in that little Alleyway where he like he was just in the alleyway and I just saw him walking okay where did you guys go I I kept walking I was just like there's there's a cops all throughout the block like well he tells me that he's with you he said that to you yeah okay so he says you guys weren't in the alleyway where were you guys he was in the alleyway okay that's where I saw him first but then after that we went out of the alleyway into like the neighborhood okay tell me about more about going in the neighborhood we started walking through like the neighborhood okay where do you go I don't know over there and like wood but we were just walking around the blocks and we just seen there was cops on every single block okay where were you found I was found in an Alleyway okay in a in what it's the alleyway I was just walking down the alleyway and they they told me to freeze and get on my knees moments later the detective decides it's time to be frank with the witness let me get to the point were you in a shed yes or no no never in a shed no I wasn't in a shed I might have been in someone's backyard but I was not in [ __ ] okay if you were in a backyard who were you with I was with the driver okay what did you and the driver discuss we didn't discuss nothing I was like bro I'm not going to get in trouble for this and I just walked out dly but I was like I do not care like bro I didn't do okay but like what am I getting in trouble for for y'all yall do okay and I apologize about it earlier about the hypothermia that's not you that's my fault okay so I apologize about that okay cuz I was like because we're standing in the backyard and I'm like bro you sound dumb if you think we're going to get away there's cops on every single block you sound stupid so I'm like so I'm like he stays he stays there in the backyard I'm like all right bro peace out I walk out of an Alleyway I got me okay I didn't do nothing so I'm obviously I'm going to be like all right freely like I do next the detective steps out of the room when the teens mom and stepdad offer up a little tough love no now you're going to end up doing time over someone else's V how am I doing time over because someone died someone died this is this isn't it doesn't matter what you know or what you think you didn't know someone died last night someone died this isn't a game this is like a big deal this isn't like oh you stole a car and didn't go to school like someone lost their life dude behind somebody's dumb that you was in the car with riding around thinking that this is hot he he obviously doesn't give a [ __ ] about anything his life his kids life anybody's life apparently and you're hanging out with him do you think he gives obviously not he this cop don't know if you you touch that gun or not the detective returns armed with some alarming information for the teen that helps to get to the bottom of this incident this next question is important okay right I'm going to ask you this be honest with me okay did you shoot you know okay and I'm asking you that because did they say someone independent said they saw you they describe you to a tea and what you're wearing that you were the shooter I promise I was not the shooter okay well promise I going to cut it okay I wasn't to Ho out and Sho him okay so again when I swab for DNA am I going to find your DNA on that trigger guard on that rifle on that AR-15 am I going to find your DNA probably cuz I moved it yeah someone said it was me yes yeah I'm over here real quick okay someone said it was me yeah okay I know I didn't shoot I know for a fact I is shoot help me explain why I should believe you me you don't have to believe me but no he has to believe dog that's the thing all right like like look listen to me I know I didn't shoot that gun I know I didn't because he even asked ran if he can shoot before he even shot the gun and hopped out the detective continues pressing the witness when he decides it's time to come clean in all those times how many times after that have you fallen asleep cuzz you know how many people sat in that chair and told me the same thing you're telling me cuz I don't believe no okay I never felt like I really fell asleep well I find it hard to believe you just was at his Auntie's house I really fell asleep I was like I was just laying down in the back with a blanket SL so you've just witnessed a shooting that's turned into a homicide and you tell me now you fallen asleep I know you didn't but my point is somebody shot with an AR-15 a high power rifle and you're telling me within an hour after within 30 minutes you've you fall asleep I really did fall asleep for real I really like on for real like I really did fall asleep in the back and then they woke me up saying the cops is behind us who there Remy and ran did you ask them to stop huh did you ask them to stop yes I was like bro why are you going so fast he was just going fast tell me more about that and he just going fast and he just smacking everything in his way and then we get to this one the Main Street and we go down at Hill boom po flip up I hit my head and then I don't remember I just hopped out okay like all I know is I just started like flying around in the car hitting my head on everything all right if you've done nothing wrong just explain to me the best you can why do you leave why do you walk off why don't you stay outside the car when the police show up why do you walk off cuz I thought I was going to get in trouble for the guns the gun was right next to me okay the AR15 was on the left of me like I told you Remy put it in the back and then that's when I moved it over to the left of me so I was not trying to get in trouble for two guns that was in the car and they was going to lead me okay they was going to lead me they already ran okay how about any casings any live rounds did you pick up or have on your person or in your position I found some 22s on the floor and I picked them up and put in my pocket tell me more about that that's it just I some okay what' you do with them I put it in my pocket then what' you do with them nothing they were just in my pocket okay did you ever see the driver or you're calling ran did you ever see him with any ammunition or any spent shell casings you know what spent shell casings are like after you done shooting M uh I think they had the 223s huh they had the 223s from the AR15 who did ran was all through the car and I guess some of them landed on him okay did you have any uh-uh okay why would he say that you had him and you dropped him he said I had him yes he's lying I never had that okay I never had no showcasing that was empty okay I only had those little 22s that I found on the ground due to the severity of the crime in Remy Cordova's history the 14-year-old was tried as an adult and convicted Ed of first-degree murder in Pamela's shooting death he was later sentenced to life in prison with the possibility of parole after 40 years at the age of 16 Nan Johnson was sentenced to 35 years after he was found guilty of second deegree murder criminal attempt to commit manslaughter attempt to commit assault vehicular eluding and being an accessory to a crime the third passenger in the car did not face charges connected to Pamela's murder