Your daughter is with the paramedics right now. She's with the paramedics. The paramedics care about her. Okay. >> And I'm not going to put hoses on your tongue till you start saying bad words. And I grab a little bit and I put it on her tongue. My mom >> adults are not always a safe refuge. Sometimes [music] they are the very reason situations spiral out of control. >> You are doing I got you at least 3 minutes >> up on the sidewalk driving recklessly at 30 mph. >> I don't want to [ __ ] go to jail, man. >> Let's work this out. You're going to make this way worse. You knock your beard, get taken away. >> Today, we look back at a moment when an adult's impulsive choice led authorities, medical professionals, and the legal system to become involved. >> First of all, if he hits me with two replaced hips and I can't walk anymore, cuz believe me, if I go down, I'm not walking anymore. This woman followed closely behind a young boy, then quickly placed responsibility for the situation onto him. On June 9th, 2025, officials in Flaggler County received a report involving an elderly woman who drove her vehicle onto a pedestrian walkway while following a 14-year-old boy riding an electric bike. The incident was reviewed and determined not to be a simple misunderstanding. >> You put my child in debt. >> I understand that. >> So, whatever it is, I don't care if we're stretching it to the backs. I'm pressing charges. >> Let me um >> you got childment. Attend the kid cuz I don't know her intent. Well, I mean that's you can't have the kidnap, but >> dude, I got video of someone chasing on the sidewalk at 20. I >> I understand. I understand. It's definitely uh Let me call my supervisor and see what he has to say about it. Um did you is that on the prepared live the the Okay, perfect. All right, just give me one second. >> And I I mean I need I need a report because if if this doesn't go anywhere, I'm I'm legaling up and I'm going balls to the wall. >> Okay. >> Against [clears throat] everybody. >> So I want charges pressed. I want a police report done. >> Okay. >> With her info, her license, everything. >> All right. Just give me one second, sir. >> From the woman's perspective, the story sounded different. She claimed the boy often rode at high speed, had previously made contact with her, [music] and that following him was a sudden decision motivated by concern for his well-being. >> Okay, >> here's what happened. They don't they didn't they don't know what's going on with their phones. They act like they know what happened. >> Okay, >> I live right there. I'm 65 years old. I have both of my hips replaced. >> Okay, >> I also have a dog. I was throwing the ball up, the squeaky toy for him. He wasn't in the street. This boy comes down on the sidewalk 35 mph. I'm not kidding you. >> Two nights ago or in the evening, I'm on the street that goes along there. He comes right at me and I was like, "You have to slow down when people are here." >> He thought that was funny. So they go more. And so then tonight, so I get my car to try to catch him cuz I thought he lived in the neighborhood. I wanted to either see where he lived to talk to his mother nicely or I wanted to talk to him nicely >> cuz I thought he was my neighbor. No, he's doing guess what? He doesn't even live in here. So then I go after him to try to find him cuz I know you're never going to find him. >> And they're all like, "You're acting recklessly." I was like, "You don't even know what happened." First of all, if he hits me with two replaced hips and I can't walk anymore cuz believe me, if I go down, I'm not walking anymore. That's going to be bad enough. If he gets my dog, you I don't know if you have a dog, but that's my child. And I would have called you actually. And then I went and got in the W's. I couldn't get out of the W's. Guess what? Cuz my GPS went Come on. My phone's Do you want to come in the house? No. My phone is in the house. I couldn't even use my GPS to get out. Um, but let's put it this way. He could have disabled me for the rest of my life. He's probably what, 17? He would have gone on the rest of his life, living a great life, and I'd have been in a wheelchair, or he would have hit my dog, and then I would have found him, and it would have gotten ugly. >> Okay. What's your name? >> Julia. >> Julia. So, I got video of you driving up on the sidewalk recklessly. You would have hit that kid on the bike and killed him. You're going to jail for manslaughter. You understand? >> Him and him. You're You're driving recklessly on a sidewalk where people walk their dogs and ride their bikes. A video of you doing almost 30 miles an hour up that sidewalk. >> I was trying to catch him. Ma'am, >> I'm listening. I'm listening. >> Cuz you're this close to going to jail. >> I'm listening. >> You understand? I understand you're concerned about kids driving. You call us. We do our best to find him, right? You think 65 years old, right? You think it's a smart idea to be driving up on a sidewalk doing 30 m hour chasing a kid on a bike? Answer the question. >> I don't consider that a sidewalk. >> What do you consider it? There's cars on there all the time. >> They're parked up on the grass so they can walk on the sidewalk. You are doing I got you for at least three minutes >> up on the sidewalk driving recklessly over 30 miles an hour from what my reporting party told me. >> And you can see he was going faster than me. >> You still think you're correct? >> That's how you do it again. You are going to jail for taking >> I will never do it again. >> Do you understand what your actions? >> I do understand. I was very emotional. >> Maybe you think you collect yourself as a 65-year-old woman about what you were doing. Do you anybody else on that sidewalk besides this kid? If you didn't say there was no I I I'm not disagreeing with you, but I >> You're wrong for trying to make this sound correct on your end. Okay. >> You're 100% wrong. >> All right. I won't. I'll stop. >> All right. You see somebody, you call us. You don't take it into your own hands. >> All right. You're right. >> God forbid you somebody. I promise you I'll do everything in my power to make sure you go to jail. >> You're right. >> Take your car and what else I could do for you. >> All right. >> Find out you're doing it again. Chasing this kid even on the road. >> Oh god. No. This was >> But it was a great idea to follow him on the sidewalk. Like I said, I was It was like >> I hear what you said. >> I know >> you're not I want you to listen. This kid does it again. You chase him in your car again. We'll get you for aggravated. Of >> course, I'm not going to. >> But you did it. And you were willing to chase this kid as far as it could go until this other car, this person that called us, stopped you. They blocked you at the sidewalk. Correct. >> Yeah. >> Where does this make sense to you? >> Okay. It doesn't. >> Do you live alone? >> Yes. >> We're taking your car. You're not getting it back. You're losing your license. You're not driving if you get another car. No. I find out you do this again. You're this close to doing that. >> Of course not. Of course not. >> You're saying of course not, but look at your actions. It just happened. 100% 110%. You were going to jail if you got this kid. >> I'm not disagreeing with you. >> I'm trying to understand where you thought this was the right thing to do. Tell me your emotions took over. So, should I put you in for a reevaluation of a driver's license now? >> I'm not trying to disagree with you. >> You're trying to make what you did sound correct. >> No, I'm not trying to sound correct. I'm telling you why I did it. I'm not saying it's right. I'm just trying to No, I'm not trying to excuse it. I'm trying to explain even though it was wrong why I did it. I didn't just like come out and say, "Oh, here let me go, you know, chase." >> Well, maybe not. >> No, not maybe not. You were not thinking. >> Okay, >> I'm laying into you right now cuz you could have multiple people on the sidewalk. It's dark. You're focused on this one kid riding the bike. You don't see me. You don't see anyone else on the sidewalk. Somebody would have called me and said, "You hit him with the car. I'm taking you to jail." If this kid calls us back after he goes home and talks to his parents, I know where you're at. We'll probably take you to jail. It's aggravated with a car is considered a >> touch him. >> Doesn't matter. Aggravated assault is not a physical contact. It's the contact. Okay. >> Should I take you to jail now? >> No. I'm >> Why not? >> I'm agreeing with you because it's not going to happen again. It was a stupid thing. I agree. >> This preached all over I don't know if you're on social media, but our sheriff puts out do not engage in road resentments for this reason. He doesn't know what you're about to do. So yeah, he's not going to stop. He's going to run away from you. So he again if he calls us and his parents get in touch with us >> I hear you. I don't think >> he went away from me in here because he was afraid of me. >> I 100% believe he was afraid of me. >> A 3 4,000lb vehicle is now chasing him. What do you think was going through his head? >> Well, the first time I came this way, he was coming up, you know, cuz I came around this way and I was like, you know, stop. I want to talk to you. He was like, >> yeah, no, he's not going to stop. >> Cuz he didn't want to be in trouble. Now, after that, who knows? I don't believe he's scared of me. I do not believe that. I think he's being a Listen, I'm from Baltimore City. I don't But I don't think that kid was afraid of me. >> Well, we don't know until he goes home. >> You're right. And >> I recommend you go back inside, >> okay? >> Unless you have any other questions for me. All right. Think about what you're doing next time. >> Okay. >> I'm not even going to say it again. I told you enough. Okay. Think about everything you just did, too. >> Okay. >> All right. Days later, officers spoke with the family again, this time with a boy present. The question arose, was the image of a fearless child really as it had been described? >> Yeah. >> How you doing, Mr. Ellis? Sergeant Miler at the Sheriff's Office. How are you today? >> I guess we had an incident a couple days ago with your son who was a victim of something that happened. Do you have any other video evidence other than what you provided with Deputy Butler yesterday? Just what she took. >> When she cut me off, yeah, I swerved onto the street and I waved someone out. I'm like, "Hey, she just tried to hit me. Help me. The other car was blocked off. >> Yeah. Um there was another guy, but she just almost hit. >> All right. So, let me ask you, when she almost hit you, was she turning onto a street or >> just when she entered the bike path, right? >> No, she was already on the bike path. She was already on it and she went up. >> Yeah. She went onto a like on the grass section where there's enough room for a car to come by. She overtook me, cut me off, and that's when I got really really scared because I literally could have died. She was really close to me. rode his bike since. >> Yeah. >> And he It's really toying. >> And he loves his bike. >> Yeah. >> We need to make awareness of this. You know, you've seen it. Kids are getting hit. They're dying. >> Especially on these ebike trails. >> Something needs policy needs to be put in place >> some kind >> legislation. We need to change the law in the city cuz these kids and my mine's no Saints, but these kids are getting a little too much. And then the drivers are getting are taking law into their own hands cuz you see stuff that that's not reported. >> Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. >> And that's what I fear for him is this could have been so much worse. >> They could have he swerved and went into traffic over her >> or him fall and then she couldn't see cuz it was not now you got now you got hit and run. You got all kinds of stupid stuff >> over nonsense is what I call it. Nonsense makes me mad. >> But I appreciate you. No worries. >> As the possible [music] legal outcomes became clearer, the woman grew worried but continued to say her intention was only to approach and speak with the child. Oh, >> you might if you just step out. Uh, >> are you arresting me? >> Well, I'm not saying that. We just have to talk. Okay. And I have to redo your rights before I question you. Okay. Cuz I'm going to ask you incriminating with these rights. Are you willing to talk to me? >> Yes. >> Okay. So, [snorts] when you were following him, did you ever get close to him? >> I don't think so. No. I couldn't catch up with him. >> So, you were trying to catch up to him >> enough that I could talk to him? Yeah. Okay. So, if he's speeding away and you're continuing to follow him, why would you just Why would you keep on follow? I I just >> That was stupid. Stupid. >> So, when you were on the sidewalk, did you ever like jump in front of him? Nothing. Nothing like that. And you didn't try to get in front of him before you started following him? >> Before I started following >> or before you went on the sidewalk cuz that's the story I got that right before you hopped on the sidewalk or maybe as soon as it happened, you kind of like tried to cut him off. >> I tried to come around. I didn't try to cut him off. >> So, you tried to go around him, you're saying? And what was your goal to going around him? >> Okay. How fast were you going? Not as fast as he was. I don't know. >> Okay. So, you were trying to catch up to him even though he's going pretty fast on a sidewalk with a bike. Okay. You understand where we're coming from here? >> I do. I do. >> Cuz it's it's ridiculous. I'm going to be honest with you. >> I I I feel that way, too. My And I can't disagree with you. It is ridiculous. >> Mhm. So, your main goal was to just try to talk to him. That's it. Cuz it seems I'm just going to tell you what it seems like for me. It seemed like this was an anger kind of like driven thing. Is that true or not? >> I was angry, but I just wanted to talk to him and tell him, you know, I would have spoken even. Um I got out of the car and I was like I just I even said to him, will you talk to me? And he said no and he just, you know, kept going. I mean, >> so why would you keep on following after that? If he doesn't want to talk to you, >> that was stupid. >> Okay. You get >> Oh, I wanted to see where he lived to tell his mother. >> Okay. So you But he started falling on the sidewalk. That's that's the main problem here. >> Gotcha. I guess. And what what happened once the other cuz I the other couple or whatever they blocked you off from Were you trying to keep on following them after they blocked you off? >> I was trying to get away from them. I don't know what they're going to do. >> Okay. All right. Well, I think they were just trying to help the uh the guy on the bike out cuz it from their angle it doesn't look good. You know what I mean? >> I understand. >> Yeah. And I mean, you probably didn't know at the time, but he was a he's a juvenile. He's 14 years old. >> Oh, you found him? >> Yeah. That's the reason why we're here is cuz they're I'm going to be honest. They want they want to press charges. So, we have to get your side of the story and all the totality of the circumstances. I also went to the witness's house. He recorded you following on the bike down the bike path >> and it shows you kind of not speeding up but containing like keeping a main uh like a 20ft distance I would say. Uh he said it was around a 6 or 10 ft. What would you estimate the distance to be? >> Um >> that you were following. >> Maybe two car lengths. >> Okay. >> I don't know what yard I'm going to go with yours. >> Oh yeah, you're good. You don't have to do that. Um so I'm going to be honest with you based on what we have now. I'm gonna be making an arrest on aggravated and the reckless driving, too. Um, based on everything that I have. Okay. So, I'm gonna need you to turn around for me. >> I gota >> We'll do that. We'll do We'll do all that after >> we'll do all that after. >> We can we can go in the door for you. Yep. That's fine. I'll give you that respect. >> And then I'll turn the AC once again. >> I'll take care of >> Thank you, Gil. The woman was charged with aggravated, reckless driving, and traffic violations. Under Florida law, she could face combined penalties of up to 5 years and 3 months in prison along with $5,500 in fines. Even when concern starts with good intentions, driving into a pedestrian area to follow a child crosses a clear boundary. Sometimes one moment of poor judgment is enough to change everything. When a form of discipline involving spicy substances goes too far, adults can face consequences that impact an entire community. >> Child needs to be taken into protective custody. Declined and refused based on DCFS investigation. >> On October 23rd, 2024, police in Mundeline, [music] Illinois opened an investigation involving a 30-year-old man and his 9-year-old daughter. The child showed concerning physical and emotional signs. The situation came to light after information was shared by the girl's sibling and a school counselor. At the scene, the father declined to cooperate and remained [music] inside his vehicle. >> Christian, come on. We're just going to talk to you, man. >> We just got to talk to you. Huh? Don't make this worse than it needs to be, dude. Well, it doesn't matter now. You made this worse. >> But whatever happened with her? >> We came to the one pushing into protective custody. He's the one pushing and reviews investigation. >> Okay. So, we got to talk to you about the kid, man. >> Child abuse investigation. He started pushing and get excused. >> Hey, Christian, just give me your >> continue to try to leave with the child. >> We're not trying to leave. >> Christian. >> Hey, Christian. We got to talk to you guys. Okay. You're I know I want to talk to you, not her. You don't have to talk to this officer. I will talk to you. We've talked before. Let's work this out. You're going to make this way worse. You're not You're going to get your kid taken away. >> Child needs to be taken into protective custody. Declined and refused based on DCFS investigation. And then when I told them that he was in detained based on the child ab investigation, he started pushing and shoving me to get past, accusing me of putting my hands on him when I only stepped in his path >> and then continued to try to leave with the child. Can you just talk to this officer? You can talk to her and we'll figure this out. Huh? It doesn't We have to talk now. >> Christian, we have to talk. We can't just leave now. >> Do you have officers with you? >> 104 unit. >> Block the exit. Come on out. parked by the wind. >> I was saying just block the exit for them. >> Come on out. >> Just come out, Christian. >> Just follow me. But please go as quick as you right here. >> Okay, then come out. >> Just come on out. Just come out, man. >> Step away from >> Yeah, man. I'm not, you know, I'm cool with you. I'm not going to rip you out of the car unless you want unless you're going to make me. Okay, come on. >> I don't want to break your window. Just come on. Let me pay you down for All right. We got to figure this out obviously. Did you push the officer? >> No, I didn't. She went like this. I was like, don't I was like I'm walking. I was like I was like She didn't even tell me I was in detain until I came all the way over here. But I did not push. I didn't go like this or anything. I was just I was like I'm walking to my car. That's it. I was like I I do I don't want you to push hands on me. >> I understand that. I understand your stance. But when an officer gives you an order whether you believe it lawful or not, you got to listen to it. You know what I mean? The next step is I'm going to break your window. And I don't want to do that. That's going to scare your daughter. You don't want to do that. All right. So, you're going to have to come back to the station and talk to us about what's going on. >> All right. Go ahead and put your hands behind your back. >> Can we wait until the case worker comes? >> We'll talk at the station. We're We're not at that point. You created the situation. You know that, man. I'm always cool with you. >> But the more you make things like worse like this, it's going to it's going to bite you in the butt. They're going to say they're going to watch the video, the case worker, and be like, "She's he's out of control." >> I'm not control. >> I I know. I know. But that's what they're going to say. You know what I mean? >> Walking away, bro. You're clearly on a you're on a case right now. You got the monitor. They're >> just listen to me. You got to you got to control your emotions. All right. I understand your daughter's here and it's a passionate topic, but you got to control yourself. All right. >> So, we're going to talk at the station. All right. Sanchez, you want to bring him back? Where'd he go? Can you get my food? >> Yeah. What else do you need? >> Oh, that's nice. Yeah. Back. Hold on. You know, I didn't put in my hands anymore. >> I'm not going to argue with you. >> I didn't put my hands on you. >> I'm not going to argue with you. >> At the police station, he stated that his actions were minor and did not cause discomfort. However, this account differed from earlier reports [music] and from what officials observed regarding the child's condition >> over there for me. >> We'll talk. Um, just because you were arrested though, I got to read you your rights. I was arrested for what? >> Uh, I don't know. Uh, it's just when when you get put in handcuffs, you get brought to the police department. You're considered arrested. >> Well, it's supposed to my Miranda rights. >> That's what I'm doing right now. >> You're supposed to do it back then. No, not until uh like if we want to talk. That's when I that's when we read them. So, we can arrest you, but we're not going to ask you any questions regarding the case until we read your Miranda rights. That's what we're doing now. So, no one ask any questions prior to that. No one, you know, ask you any intricate details about >> Yeah, they already asked me questions. >> Were you in custody? >> Yes. >> You had handcuffs on? >> Okay. Well, depending what they ask you, that stuff can be suppressed. You know, that's what your attorney will take care of and everything like that. So, but prior to that, if I want to talk to you, just kind of get your side of the story cuz I have no idea what the hell is going on. I was just here and I heard you were being brought back to the PD. So, I was like, I'll I'll talk to them because I know them. All right. So, I'll read your rights. Let me know if you understand them. If you don't understand them, I'll read them back to you. I'll give you a chance to read them if you want. Um, and then if you want to sign it, you can sign it. If you don't want to sign, you don't want to sign. It's up to you. All right. >> So, you have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can be against the court of law. You have the right to consult with lawyer before you answer any questions or make any statement to have a lawyer present during questioning. You can't afford a lawyer won't be appointed for you before questioning any time during questioning desire. Do you want to sign this at all? No. That's fine. >> Why am I being arrested? Uh, one sec. So, from what I heard it, uh, you pushed >> I did not push. No one. >> You pushed sex in. >> No, I didn't. I was like this. You can see it on the dash cam. Okay. >> I was like this the whole time. My hands were up. I never >> prior to uh >> I did not. I swear to God. I did not pushed her. I was just walking away. And I told her I was like, "Please, I I'm walking away. Do not put your hands on me." She wasn't going like this to me. >> Okay. >> I did not went like this. >> Did you push her back after she pushed you all in like that? >> Nope. My hands were never like this. I was either like this or like this. Don't touch my kid. Don't touch my wife. I never went like this. I was just like this or like this. I never pushed. >> You can check on the dash camera before you give me those charges, bro. >> Okay. >> Please. >> Okay. >> I just let you know. Okay. >> I did. You could see on the dash cam. I even told her, "My hands are up. I'm not pushing you. My hands are up." I wasn't pushing her. >> Did you like uh Did you like not let her move or like kind of like restrict her movements at all? >> She was not. >> She restricted your movements. Yeah. And I was like And she didn't even tell me I was detained. She didn't tell me. >> Okay. >> I I walked all around the school and she didn't tell me I was detained. >> Okay. Where were you guys? in front of the school. >> In the front of the school went around and then we're around >> like where the buses pick you up. >> And then she's like, "Oh, you're detained." And I asked her for what? And she didn't want to tell me for anything. I was like, "You're not going to tell me for why? I'm detained. I'm you're not going to go to my car. Like the DC wants to come and take my kid to come to my car." I'm like, "I'll wait in the car." I wasn't going to go nowhere. I can't even drive. >> Yeah. >> I was just going to go wait inside my car. And I was like, I'm going to put hostels on your tongue so you stop saying bad words. And I grab a little bit hostel and I put it on her tongue. And she was crying. I was like, "You going to stop saying bad words?" And she's like, "Yeah." Okay. And then she said something again. And then I was like, "I already talked to you. I already took your phone away. I didn't get you no tablet. I was like, "You still do not listen." I was like, "What do you want me to do?" I was like, "You want me to tell you how how my mom like raised me when I was little?" I was like, "My mom used to beat me up with the with the cable, with the hangers." I was like, "I don't want to do that to you." >> I don't want to do that to you. I was I don't want to hit you. >> Mhm. >> And then she's like, "Oh, I don't care." And then I in the butt. >> Okay. >> That's it. >> How many times do you >> Once? >> Just one time in the butt. >> Yeah. But not >> Okay. What did the ECFs take? I cuz like I said, I don't I don't know. >> I don't know what they say about that, but I swear to God, you got to check your camera. But I did not push your officer. >> Okay. Well, I'll talk to Jessica about that. We'll we'll check the camera and everything and then we'll go from there. >> I did say you're not taking my kid away. How you going to react in a situation like I would say, "Oh, we got to take the kid away." >> Right. No, I'd be pissed off, too. So, I I understand, >> you know, like I did not push the officer, bro. If I would have pushed it, you know, I would have put it down to the ground. >> Right. Right. No, I agree. I agree. So, DCFS. So, who told you that the kids were being taken? The lady said, "Oh, your kids were taken into custody." >> The DC DCFS said that. >> No, the the officer. Okay. And then officer and then when I told her, I was like, "But the school supposed to call us." I was like, "I didn't even call us or told us anything." And then I was like, "Okay, you dismissed." I was like, "I don't want to talk to you." And we're leaving. And she's like, "Oh, you're not leaving." She, you know, like she was putting her hands on me cuz I I told her I was like, "Do not put your hands on me." I don't put your hands on me. >> Did you like move her hands off you at all or anything like that? I'm just saying natural reaction. If someone puts her hands on me, I'm going to just wipe their hands. >> I I didn't push. I didn't do anything. I was just like this. I was like, you couldn't even see the camera. I'm just walking. I like I got my hands off like I didn't push it. Of course, you know, if I put if I would have push it, you know, I would have put it down to the floor. But I'm just trying to get to my car, bro. Wait there for the case worker to get there and see if if they wanted to take the baby. We're going to give it to the case worker, not to the police, cuz you know the baby was scared, >> right? >> So, thanks for cooperating, man. >> I know. Can I talk to you, bro? >> Yeah. Yeah. What's up? >> I did not push your officer. No, I didn't. Whatever she said is what you say. You know what I mean? I'm I'm telling you on the court, can you guys please check the camera so you can see I didn't so No. So you can see that I those charges, bro. I swear to God I did not push her, bro. I'm >> all I can say is whatever happened today that you got to control your emotions, man. You you let yourself get into a fight, >> bro. How you want I got it. >> Hey, but I did not push her, bro. Like I didn't go nothing like that. >> Listen listen. Not even if your kid gets taken away for a little bit for protected, >> it's not permanent. It only becomes permanent if you have a fool and you and you're showing yourself as like a as a risk to this kid. You know what I mean? Nobody wants to take your kid away. Quite honestly, there's so many kids in this world that don't have fathers, you know. >> According to the father, the discipline consisted of a [music] brief contact and a very small amount of hot sauce. However, does this fall within acceptable parenting [music] practices or was it an effort to minimize personal responsibility? >> Did she walk to the kitchen on her own or did you pull her into the kitchen? >> No, I grabbed her hand and she was following by and pulling. >> Okay. So, you you just guided her into the kitchen. Okay. So you guys went in the kitchen and then you got the hot sauce and how much hot sauce did you put on top? >> Like a little drop. >> Okay, that's it. Just Just a little bit. Not like a whole gallon of it. >> The hot sauce is like too small. >> Did you take it and like pour it like this or you put it on your finger and then you put it in? Okay. How far did you stick your finger in her mouth? >> Okay. And then what happened after that? >> Nothing. She wasn't just there. And she was like And she's like, "Can I have water?" I was like, "No." I was like, "Yeah, I keep on saying bad words." And she's like, >> "Okay." So she asked for water cuz it was her mouth was was hot. Okay. And then uh you said no. >> Yeah. And I told her no. >> Okay. And then >> and then that's it. Then I just told her I was like, "You got to listen." She's like, "Yeah, I will listen." I was like, "Okay." And then uh but before that I I told her I was like I just went not I just went like this. I went like over there. >> Mhm. >> Like right here. >> Okay. >> So like kind of like upper lower back upper upper butt kind of. Did you hit like the butt cheek or was it kind of more like the back fat area? Okay. So like kind of over Okay. >> Like go over there. I like you better stop. >> How hard did you hit her? >> Like this. >> Okay. Like on a scale of 1 to 10 >> to like two. >> Okay. >> I don't really like the number. >> Yeah. >> You know, cuz I used to get I used to get beat out when I was little. So I don't really like it. >> Mhm. Um so after you uh just hit her uh what happened? >> Nothing. She was just in her room. My left to therapy. I was there cooking. I asked her she was hungry. Then I cooked some rice, some boiled eggs, some chicken, and then uh and some uh uh roasted peppers with tomatoes. And then I served and she was eating. That's it. And then she was playing. And then the DC DCFS lady came and knocked on the door and she's like, "Oh, how you guys doing?" And I was, "Oh, good." I was like, "All the babies are not here." Okay, then I come back tomorrow 4:30. So, she was going to come today at 4:30. That's it. >> Okay. Um, was she uh during the event of the hot sauce and uh when you did she was she bleeding at all? Was her mouth bleeding, face bleeding, nose, anything like that? No blood. Okay. >> I didn't see no blood. >> You didn't see any blood? Did um did she complain about or anything like that? No. Okay. Um, so you one time and then just like a drop of hot sauce. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um, and then who who else saw that in the house? She saw it and then did anybody else did the kids see it? >> I don't know. She started making stuff up because we didn't want to give her the phone. >> Yeah. >> But in the morning she wanted her phone and we told her she couldn't have it cuz she was she was putting inappropriate videos on on uh Instagram. Okay. when she's in school and she's uh a kid in the face and we told her to delete the videos from my Instagram and then found more videos on the phone or her doing like like like chasing like the kids around and telling them stuff. I took the phone away and that's why she in the morning she was mad. In the morning she was mad because she's like, "Oh, can I have my phone?" And my was like, "No, you're not going to have it maybe till December." And she left and she was mad. >> Okay. >> So, I don't know if that's the reason why she said something in school. >> Okay. If we interview, are they going to say anything different than what you're telling me? >> I know. Are they going to say that you or more times than you're telling me? Are they going to tell me that you maybe used a little more hot sauce than just a drop? Are they going to say you used a belt? >> I didn't use a belt. >> Okay. Are they going to say anything anything else besides that though? They're not going to say that you used a belt or a shoe or anything like that? >> I didn't use my shoe. >> Okay. Uh would they say that you hit them more than once? Maybe? >> No, I only hit once. >> You only once? Okay. And then the hot sauce. You're pretty. You're pretty sure that it was only one little drop. What was that? >> The ankle monitor. >> Oh, you had the Okay. >> Little alcohol. >> Okay. So, I was making sure it wasn't >> It checks my It checks my alcohol every 3 hours. >> How does it do that? >> Sweat. >> Okay. I was going to say it's not like drilled into you. So, >> no. [laughter] >> So, you can't drink anymore? When was the last time you drank? >> Like a month? No, more than a month ago. >> More than a month ago. Okay. So, you were completely sober last night? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um, what happens if you drink? Does that just >> I get I get violated and I get locked up. >> Okay. Would that document if you were drinking last night? Like if we went and pulled like the Cuz we can call and be like, "Hey, you know, we're investigating this. We just want to make sure he wasn't drinking." And they'd say, "Yeah, he was, you know, it's zeros." Okay. >> Okay. >> You call my call my probation officer. His name is uh uh >> I'm not saying I don't believe you. I'm just saying we got to do our due diligence and we got to, you know, I just want to make sure cuz if god forbid, you know, said you were drinking or your kids say you were drinking last night and you're telling me you're not. It's one really easy way to figure that out and that's just calling them like, hey, I'm getting two different stories here. You know, what does the device say? And if they says he wasn't drinking, it's like, well, then I believe, you know, it just shows that you're not you're you're being truthful, which is which is good for, you know, your credibility talking to the police. Matthew, my permission for you to call my probation officer or the guy is call J O Conor. >> Okay. >> Uh from scram. That's what it's called. Scram alcohol monitor. >> Okay. >> Let me talk to my bosses. Let me talk to I'm I'm already getting locked up. I don't know. >> No, I know. I know. We're going to I'm going to do my I'm going to like I said, I don't know what happened. I just kind of heard rumblings what happened and I know you and you know me, so I figured it'd be easier if I talked to you. I was literally about to go home and cook food for for my family, but now I'm here. So, let me talk to my bosses. Let me talk. Give me a little bit before uh I let you do that. Okay, just just just sit tight. Give me like 20 minutes. Okay, just give me 20 minutes. >> When the accounts from the father and child did not match, authorities contacted her mother for clarification. During this process, the father reported a sudden health concern [music] and requested a medical evaluation. Here. Let's see over there. Have a seat over there. So, yeah. The reason you're still here is because your kids are giving them giving us a different story than what you're telling me. So, I mean, they're saying that hot sauce was used that, but they're saying a little more hot sauce than what you're telling me. >> No, I didn't put more hot sauce in than that, bro. >> I mean, how how big is the and how much did you use? Did you like put it on your mouth like this? >> No, bro. >> No, >> that's the only one I have open. I used it on my hot dogs. >> Mhm. I use it on my hot sauce. So, it's not even It's not even It's more than halfway full. >> Did she go to the bathroom after you put the hot sauce on her? >> Yeah, she just went to go get some toilet paper. That's it. >> Okay. >> And she went back to the kitchen and drink some she tried drinking some water. That's it. I didn't I didn't hard, bro. >> Okay. Was she uh did she puke at all? >> I didn't see her puking. >> Did you hear her puke at all? >> I just seen her spitting on the sink. The s >> Okay. In the bathroom? >> Not in the bathroom. I'm in the kitchen. >> In the kitchen. How much she spent this like saliva? >> I don't know. Yeah. >> All right. We'll call your mom and put her on speaker. >> Okay. >> All right. You speak Spanish really, right? >> I don't understand Spanish, so you want to call my She could probably bring it. >> Oh, can you just go an ambulance, bro? >> You want an ambulance? >> Yeah. >> For what? >> My excited, bro. Get up. I got technical. My heart's going fast. >> It's just we got to we have to do our due diligence. You know that, man. I'm not You know me. I'm not trying to screw you over here. We've been How many times have I helped you out with stuff and let you go on stuff that you, you know, I probably should have arrested you on or whatnot, right? >> So, it's nothing personal. It's we have to do our due diligence and we, you know, we have laws that we have to abide by. When children are saying this stuff, we have to >> and then the girls when when there's people right there talking to them, bro, then you know, like they get all cheesy or like, "Oh, yeah." You know, like they start making [ __ ] up, bro. Make >> [ __ ] >> I believe I know. I know. We We deal with this all the time. The kids make stuff up and then, you know, we bring them and interview them and they say completely different things than what they told us initially. So, we're just we have to interview all the kids, anyone that saw anything that possibly happened and then go from there. And that's what they're doing. And it takes it takes a minute. It's not going to be quick. Um because there are so many kids. It takes about, you know, half hour to an hour per interview depending on how vocal the kid is and how much they talk and things like that. So hospital. >> Okay. If you want to go, we'll call the ambulance. >> Yeah. I'm going go to hospital. >> Okay. >> All right. 2150. The father faced multiple charges, [music] including aggravated battery to a child, aggravated battery to a peace officer, two counts of domestic battery, and resisting a peace officer. The court ordered him held without bail pending trial, citing [music] a significant risk to children. What level of accountability do you believe is appropriate in this situation? Share your thoughts in the comments below. In the eyes of young children, parents are often seen as heroes. Sadly, this image does not always match reality. my cousin. Casey, >> sit down on the curb. She's with the paramedics. Sit down. >> I know. I'm fine. I'm fine. I will. I will. >> I'll help you down. I'll help you down. Sit down. Please sit down. >> I will. Please, please, please, please, your husband. >> On October 24th, 2022, authorities responded to a report of a highway incident. Initial information indicated that a mother driving in an unstable state lost control of her vehicle and a utility pole while her young child was inside. Officers arrived quickly, spoke with a mother who appeared disoriented, and gathered statements from witnesses. >> She's fine. Let the paramedics take care of her. Come on. >> She didn't um She told me already she was driving the car. >> I need Casey. I need I need Casey. Sit up. >> I don't care. I need I need my cousin. >> My cousin Casey. >> Sit down on the curb. She's with the paramedics. Sit down. >> I know. I'm fine. I'm fine. I will. I will. >> I'll help you down. We'll help you down. Sit down. Sit down. >> I will. Well, please come. Please come. Please call Casey Husband. Please. I will. Well, please call Casey's husband. Please. >> How fast were you going? >> I was not fast at all. >> Do you think more than 15 mph should if that? It's 35 if that. >> 35. If that if that listen don't grab me. Is that dad? >> Is this dad? >> Who is he? >> Who is he? >> Dad. >> Her dad. >> Okay. Okay. >> What's your name, hun? >> I'm your father. That's your father. >> Okay. What's your name? >> My name is Lauren. >> Lauren, do you have a license in the car? >> Yes, it's Where's it at? I I It's in my purse. >> Do you mind if I go in there and grab it? Go ahead. >> Where was she at when you guys got here? >> She was standing right here. >> And then there was a bystander, a couple bystanders. And then So, she was here. There was a Latino guy standing here and he seemed like he was walking past. >> There's a witness here. already. >> Yeah, this is the guy right there. >> The little found the little one on the floor here. She's got a head. >> Yeah, there's a little girl right there. She was in a vehicle. She's got a razor in her head and it's like that see this is not even >> I was the one that called it in. >> Okay. Did you see the wreck happen? >> No, I went around the corner from work and just saw him just like against the pole and I was like, "What?" >> Okay. I saw like reverse lights on. She was trying to like get out and then she just like gave up. >> Was she in the driver's seat like trying to drive? What was she wearing? >> Yeah. Would you recognize her if you saw >> her? She was in the driver's seat. Okay. >> Yeah. Cuz she was like, "Um, I really don't want to deal with this. I want to call the police." >> Do you have your ID on you? >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. She's not going right. >> Sir, got to go to the hospital. >> Mom's not going right. >> They're taking the baby. Mom's not right. >> I don't know anything about this mom. >> They We're trying to convince him to >> I'm not taking your truck. You need to take care of your truck. Let them take the baby. Let them take your daughter. Go secure your vehicle. >> Let them take your daughter. >> They're in good hands. Police and medical. Let them take your daughter. The daughter. >> They've got to go. They've got to go. She needs to go with them. >> Okay. >> The mother's explanations changed repeatedly and lacked consistency. Her unsteady posture and slow responses suggested she was not in a condition to continue driving safely. >> So, what's going on with her? Is this emergency? Is she going is she being transported or not? >> One of the deputies told my paramedic they wanted her to stay here. She didn't want to go to the hospital. She >> want to go to the hospital. I just like right now. >> Yep. Ma'am, come over here and have a seat. >> Ma'am. Ma'am, come over here and have a seat. Ma'am, have a seat now. >> Yeah, I know. >> Have a seat. Have a seat. >> Sit down. Let me go in there. I need you to have a seat. They're getting ready to take her to the hospital. >> Before you hurt yourself, sit down. >> No, she is not. >> She is okay. She's with our partners. >> He doesn't give a [ __ ] about her. I'm sorry. I need to go with her. Please give a [ __ ] about her. >> What's your first name? >> I don't care. >> I need to know your first name. >> I need to go with my daughter. This girl does not give a about my daughter. I'm telling you. >> What? What's your birthday? >> 1179. I'm telling I need to go with my daughter. Please, I need to go with my daughter. Please leave my daughter alone. Somebody husband IS MY COND. OKAY, they're >> I don't give a [ __ ] that is a piece of [ __ ] Please, I need to go in there with her. >> I give birth to her, please. I need to go, please. Hey, look at me, Lauren. Lauren, we have some paperwork for you. Okay, we got to give you your information back. Okay, >> Lauren, why? I want my I want my credit here. I want my kids here. I want you. Here's here's your ID back. Here's your driver's license back. Okay. >> Okay. And you're being provided with a driver exchange and a citation for careless driving. Okay. Go ahead and take that from me. >> There you go. your options to pay that or contest that and corner on the back. Your daughter is with the paramedics right now. >> Thank you. I'm so good. >> She's with the She's with the paramedics. The paramedics care about her. Okay. So, we finished this civil traffic investigation and we are now changing into a criminal DUI investigation. So, I'm going to go ahead and read you your rights. All right. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you >> Okay. So, wait. I get arrested. >> We're doing a criminal DUI investigation. >> Okay. That's our job. >> I don't want to go with my baby. I think I want my baby. >> Okay. >> Okay. You have the right to remain silent. Any statements. Do you understand each of these rights that I've explained to you? >> Yes, I do. >> Okay. Having these rights in mind, do you wish to talk with us, >> Lauren? Having those rights in mind, do you still wish to talk to us? >> Yes, I do. Okay. >> Stop. That's the whole point. >> So, what happened? So, what happened? >> Guess what? I hear her 24/7. He comes home tonight. Lauren, >> what >> what happened tonight? >> What happened tonight? I went to my friend's house. >> Okay. >> And I drink a little bit. Okay. >> And I drove home. >> When you say a little bit, how many alcoholic beverages did you have? >> I had >> one what? >> Maybe two shots of one cup mix. >> Two shots of water. >> Mix them. >> Like was it vodka? Tequila. Tequila. Mixed one. >> Mixed up. >> Okay. So that makes it better if it's mixed, right? No. >> Okay. Then what happened? Approximately how long ago did you drink? >> Approximately how long ago did you drink? >> What? >> Approximately how long ago did you drink? >> I told you like 8 hours ago. >> 8 hours ago. Okay. Okay. Do you know what time it is right now? >> Okay. >> I really don't. I honestly don't. >> Yeah. Would you be all right to perform some standard >> Lauren? Lauren, hey, I just got a question for you. Would you be willing to participate in some standard field sobriety exercises for us to determine that you're good to drive? >> I'll help you. >> I will. >> Okay, I can help you. >> Yes, good for you. >> Following standard procedure, officers attempted routine checks to assess her ability to drive. She was unable to complete them, leading to further action. >> Katy husband, please call him right now. Right now, please call husband. Come here, please. >> Um, yeah, we can probably do it over here. >> You're okay. You're okay. You're okay. >> No, you're fine. If you need to fence, use the fence. Okay. You're okay. >> You're okay. You're okay. You're okay. >> I got you. >> No, I can't I can't hug. Okay. I'm sorry. But you can lean up against that fence if you'd like. >> Oh, that's lovely. That's soing lovely. There you go. >> That's so >> We're trying to help you, Lauren. Okay. All right. Hey, Lauren. You mind just coming over here? >> You don't this flat surface here? >> This flat surface over here just so it's flat on your on your feet. >> You know, you know my baby daddy has been trying to steal my baby for like four or five years. >> He's from Brazil. He's illegal. >> Okay. >> He's illegal. He's not trying to steal my baby. >> Okay. Let's go over here on the flat surface so we can do some field exercises. Okay. Here, I can help you walk. Okay. Open. All right. >> Yep. All right. So, do you normally wear back? Okay. Okay. All right. >> Do you normally wear glasses or contacts? >> No. I need glasses, though. >> No. No glasses. No contacts. >> I'm going to fall back. >> Okay. >> I'm not going to fall. I don't want you fall back. I'm not I need I can't hold you. Okay. Okay. You okay? >> Yeah. I said it. Okay. >> You heard it. You okay? Can you stand up by yourself? You can. >> Yes. >> Okay. He does some exercise with you. Okay. >> Yeah. >> He's here to help you. >> So, what I'm going to do is I'm going to check your eyes. You said you don't wear uh glasses or contacts, right? >> I need I need to >> I can, but I can't. I can, but I can't. My bag is cramping on this this side. This side is cramping. I mean, honestly, you're shaking. Can you stand up? Cuz it's a little cold. Can you stand up? I'll be able to talk. Okay. All right. Um, >> you know, I'm 31 years old, bro. >> Can you stand up by yourself or no? >> I can't stand by myself. Make sure you sit by yourself. Okay. Try to stand up. There you go. >> Okay. Ready? >> You got to stand up. Okay. By yourself. She keeps holding up. Okay. >> Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Getting cramps right here. Hold on a second. Just a second. You hold on. Hold on. There you go. Good. I'm getting cramps. Close right. Do me a favor. There you go. Just keep that hand right there for me. >> All right. So, right now you're being placed under arrest because I have reasonable belief that you are intoxicated while operating a vehicle >> with a child in the car >> and you're unable to perform the field sobriety exercises. >> Okay. I think you have three right now. >> I think you've had too much to drink. Okay. >> Are you able to find out more information on the child? Yes. You're going to cuz now you're under arrest. You're going to walk. >> I'm going to be camera cousin right now. Please. >> We'll call your cousin. Okay. >> Please call my cousin right now. Please. You're pushing me. You're pushing me. >> Because you weren't walking. Are you Are you going to walk? >> Yes. I'm going to walk for Let me stand up. Please. It's hurting. It hurt bad. >> Okay. >> So, please, >> if you cooperate, we'll we won't pull you. But if you don't walk, I'm going to pull you. >> Don't pull me. >> Then walk. >> I am. But hold on a second. It's It's like cramping on my left side. Do you understand what you did tonight? >> Yes, I understand what I did tonight. You know why? Cuz I'm in the Mexican. Look at Look at my Look at my chin. Look at my chin. >> Okay. >> We're going to walk over to this car over here. Okay. Probably pretty irresponsible to drive a child. >> Yes, I know. But look at my chin. >> When balance checks could not be completed, a breath test was used to better understand her condition. >> All right. You can barely stand up. Just going to We're going to hang out right here. We're going to have a female officer come and search you. Okay. Look, look, look at my chin. There's nothing on me. Look at my chin. >> Look at me. Look at my chin. Please look at my chin. >> Your chin? Yeah. I see a little bit of bruising. It's probably from when you impacted the steering wheel. >> No. No. It was from to from Saturday. >> From Saturday. >> You know, whatever. Just take me to jail. I don't care. Whatever. Just send me. >> All right. We'll get there soon. >> I don't want to go to jail. Please call my cousin. Please, please call him. Please get there, too. >> Please call my cousin. Please. >> All right, Lauren, I got a question for you. Okay. >> What? What is theing question? I've been I've been I've been What do you want me to do? What do you want? >> Lauren, I'm now requesting that you submit to a lawful test of your breath for the purpose of determining its alcoholic content. Will you take this test? >> What does that mean? >> So, it means that I'm requesting that you submit to a lawful breath test. >> I will. Yes, you will. >> Yes. Yes, I will. >> Okay, we'll handle that when we get to the jail. Okay, >> so you're willing to get a sample of your breast? >> Yes, I will. >> Okay. >> I I need to sit down. My back hurts so bad. I need to sit down. >> You want to sit on the car? >> We've got a curb right there. You want to sit on the curb? You want to sit on the curb? >> Watch him. Please watch my daughter. Please. >> Your daughter's going with the paramedics. All right. So, we're going to move back to this curb back here. Okay. We got you. We're We're helping you out. >> Please watch my daughter. >> All right. And go ahead and start to squat down. Squat down. >> We got you. Okay. >> We're holding you. We're holding you. There you go. Hang tight for us. Okay. >> So, here's how the process. You need to explain to you. >> No, I'm I'm asking him. I'm not talking to you. I'm asking him. You're not You're not You're not >> Hey, Lauren. So, right now, you're under arrest for driving under the influence. So, what's going to happen is a female officer is coming to search you cuz we have to search everybody before they go in the back of the patrol car. >> I don't give a >> Lauren. Nobody's talking about that. But, we're going to just have a female officer come search you. >> I want Lauren. Are you going to let me explain it to you? Lauren, I'm going to run now. >> Okay. Yeah. Thank you. >> Lauren, just keep talking to me. Okay. >> So, when they come and search you, we'll transport you to the jail. And you've um submitted to the request to do a uh a breath test. >> I've been arrested. The only time I've been arrested was when they sold me a stolen car and they >> And you were arrested on that? Yes, I got I got footage from charges because they stole it and they kept trying to steal it back and I got >> I got >> So, we'll get you down to the jail and we'll get a a breath test done. Okay. And then they'll book you in and we'll get you out of those handcuffs. Okay. >> I'm drunk. I don't care. I'm going to be drunk. >> How many drinks did you have tonight? >> She said two shots. >> No, no, no. I didn't say no. I didn't say no. Two shots. I think >> you said you're mixed. You said you had two shots mixed. I told you I had two shots of tequila. >> Yeah. >> You're lying. >> Am I? No. Am I lying? I'll be >> I drink tequila. I don't drink tequila. >> So, you said two shots worth in a single cup mixed together. >> Right. >> Do you have anything else? >> I have benzo in my system that I have prescription for. >> She has I have a prescription for mixture of medicine and I don't take my benzo. No, I don't think >> Can you please take these off? >> No, thank you. unable to take the cuffs off. Okay, I I'm sorry. >> Even in the midst of confusion, her parental concern was clear. She repeatedly asked about her child, [music] worried about their well-being, and questioned who would care for them afterward. >> Where is my daughter at the hospital getting checked out? She was involved in her father. My her father took my her father took my my daughter. >> Paramedics took your daughter to the hospital. She's a lot safer than what she was inside the vehicle. As long as she's not with my father, her father, that's fine. As long as she's only with her father, that's fine. >> That's all I care about. She's been traumatized. She's been traumatized before. I didn't see her before. >> We'll let her know. >> Of course, her mother decided to drink and drive with her in the >> All right, Lauren. We're going to stand up. Okay, you ready? Here we go. 3, two, one. Got to stand up for us. There you go. We're walking right back over here to the car. Okay. >> I was supposed to heal my friend tonight. >> Okay. Do you have a bra on? >> I do. >> Okay. Do you have anything in your bra? Do you keep any cash or anything in there? >> A lighter. >> Okay. You have a lighter cash? I don't know. You got to check. I don't know. You got to check. I don't know. >> That's why I asked is because I am going to check. >> Okay. Well, no. Go in my >> I will give me a second. You have any pockets on your shorts? >> No. No pockets. Can you stand up for me and like quit slouching in front? >> No, I can't cuz my daughter has been taken away from me by >> But are your legs broken, ma'am? >> No, ma'am. >> Okay, then let's stand up for me. I don't want you to fall and get So, let's kind of cooperate. Okay. Where's your cash at in your bra? >> No. I just I didn't know if there was cash in my bra or not. Go in my bra. Go in my bra. It >> get out of jail so you can do a breath sample. Okay. >> I don't want to [ __ ] go to jail, man. I didn't do anything, Mom. >> All right. Are you going to be able to step on into the car on your own? >> Yes. Take this off, please. >> We can't do that. Go ahead and put your left foot up and step in the back of the car. Okay, >> Lauren. >> I need Yes. I need like a side support here. Like something with the >> Well, there's a door. >> I can't reach it. >> Well, you got to step forward. Okay, homie. One leg >> one leg in. One leg in. Right up there. >> I know, but I can't. >> Come on, Lord. Lauren, stand up. Start paying attention. Okay, >> I am paying attention to slouching over is not helping. Stand up. >> This is bull. You should stand up for me. Stand up for me. >> Listen, >> I can't hear you when you're slouching. Okay, stand up for me. >> I can't. My back. I can't. >> Okay, well then I'm trying. I'm trying. I'm trying. I'm trying. I'm trying. Okay. >> Yeah, you're doing good. >> There you go. I got you. I'll help you up. Ready? 3 2 1 >> Ready. One. And again. Ready? 1 2 3 go. on. >> There we go. >> All right. Get that leg in there for me. >> This is illegal. This motherucker and not [ __ ] >> Get that leg in the car for me. >> He's illegal. >> I'm going to seat belt you in to make sure that you're nice and safe. Okay. >> How the He's illegal. >> He picked my child. >> Slide in a little bit more for me. Okay. >> Where? Wait, I need Where is my child? Where the >> Sarah Memorial Hospital name her name? all in her name. >> I would say next >> definitely not on board, but we'll get the rest of the first. They're getting ready to leave the keys. So then we'll Oh, you're all the way back. >> Yeah, I'm way back there. I didn't want to come up here. >> Yeah, just give us a few minutes. So, traffic. He Witnesses described the vehicle being operated in an extremely unsafe manner, nearly causing additional serious situations, helping authorities piece together what happened. >> Frank, my name is Frank. Uh, I was on my call about her. >> Okay. >> Um, she was actually I'm staying at Airbnb. I'm down here working for FEMA. >> Okay. >> For the debris pickup. And she was I guess she was meeting up with um the guy next door to me where you live down here. I'm I'm staying at an Airbnb right right down there where my truck is parked. And um I mean I was ratcheting down my machine. She told me, "Hey, what the what the are you doing, making so much noise so late and people are sleeping." I could tell she was intoxicated. So I told her, "Oh, it's only 8:40. What are you talking about?" She didn't say nothing. And then she's there, but I see she had a kid in the car and she's blasted. The guy's telling her, "Hey, you want me to follow you home? You know, you're with your daughter this this and that." And then whatever. When they were there talking for a while, you could tell she's banged up. When she's about to leave, I tell her, "Hey, be careful." She backs up. She almost backs into the the the person across the house across. She almost backed up into her whole house, like into her whole house. She stopped last minute. She stopped last minute and then uh she came out. When she comes out, I have a big truck and a dump trailer. So, it's I have it half on the street, half on the on the grass. She almost comes into us like >> y'all, did she? >> No, she was close. Like last minute, I guess she saw us cuz I had I had this pointing down like that. Yeah, >> I guess she saw it and she swerved out and I told him, "Bro, she's not going to make it to the corner." >> Just she made it to the corner. >> Did she that? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> The fence. I mean, I wasn't here, but I I kind of I could picture roughly hit the fence and then I guess she went straight into the she >> she pulled hard to the right. She went straight, but she looked bad. >> So, you guys saw her You just heard >> I saw her I didn't see it, but I saw her pull out of here, peeling out. >> Yeah, she definitely opened up quite hard. >> Like, she opened up hard. I guess that's when she came up right there. >> Okay. And then she came to ride one knock. I knocked on his door. I go, "Hey, your girlfriend." He goes, "No, that's not my girlfriend." I just uh was just a girl I was meeting up with. >> Yeah. Cuz >> I guess he doesn't want >> boyfriend and her husband. Whatever. Just show up here. >> Yeah. That's what I figured happened because that guy he came he checked was doing it. Went right back to his house. >> Okay. Okay. If I need anything, I I'll where that trailer is. Biggest thing is that I I told my bro she's really bad and she has a kid in the car. I mean >> kid wasn't strapped though. I know that one of the guys that were coming. >> Yeah, >> she's she's bad. Pretty bad, huh? >> Yeah, if you can't tell. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, she was really close to the >> Okay. All right. Well, she she's off the streets. Be safe out there. Clean it up. Thanks for coming down, guys. I appreciate it. >> Did you see her? Were you Did you see the crash or was it you? >> I saw it. I was just pulling in coming from the store and all I saw the car go up in the air and the lights looked like it almost spun around this way and then she overcorrected the pole. >> Okay. >> She did take the fence out here. >> That was it. >> Okay. Do Do you have an idea on >> I did see her get out of the car by the time I got him back. >> Yeah, we had somebody down there that saw her in the car. So, >> the guy that probably called you. Two cars went by. >> We can slide back to our truck and get out there. >> A couple cars went by and he finally stopped and all I kept hearing was a kid screaming. >> Yeah. >> Is she drunk? Did you say you had CBD gummies? Where are those at? >> Yeah, they're not. >> You have prescriptions for them. >> CBD. There's no >> Oh, no. Olivia, this is what I'm talking about. >> This is what I'm talking about. What are these? >> Oh, that's um Turn around. This is [ __ ] cold medicine, bro. >> Okay. >> All right. Cool. Just wanted to make sure that's all. >> Hold on one second. I'll be with you in just a second. >> Take it with us. >> Under Florida law, she could be charged with DUI, child, reckless driving, and resisting law enforcement. The combined maximum penalties for these charges could reach up to 12 years in prison, and $11,500 in fines. With a single moment of lost control, the image of a hero in a child's eyes can fall apart. And [music] sometimes the cost is not just legal consequences, but the loss of a child's trust. Have you ever seen someone cause an incident and then immediately portray themselves as the victim? The father in this story provides a clear example. >> Are you at the >> in the head? Where she at? >> From everywhere. >> Okay, stay in the car. >> On July 17th, 2022, authorities responded to a highway report of unsafe [music] driving. A vehicle carrying a married couple and their four-year-old son was involved in a serious [music] incident with another car. The mother was significantly affected while the father's unusual behavior drew extra [music] attention from police. >> What's going on, man? >> Stop honking. Stop honking. What's going on? What's going on? >> You been know what to do anymore. Please help us. >> Where were you at? >> My wife is going to >> Where were you at? My wife is going to >> Where were you at when you got >> I don't know. My wife is going to >> Oh, she Where is she at? >> She I don't know. My wife >> Are you sure? Sir, are you >> Sit down. Go ahead. Sit down, buddy. Are you >> Are you Where at the >> In the head? Where she at? >> Okay. Stay in the car. >> What's her name? >> What's her name? What's her name? What's her name? >> What's her name? Hello. >> What's her name, man? >> Leslie. >> Leslie. >> Please help her. >> Leslie, >> please bring it back to life. >> Leslie, can you hear me? Leslie. >> Leslie. My baby. Baby. Baby. >> They're on the way. They're on the way. >> Come fast. >> Can you unbuckle her? Can you unbuckle her? >> Unbuckle her. >> Please help her. >> Where you at, Leslie? >> Please help her. She's not able to [ __ ] talk. >> Where at? >> Obviously in the hand. >> I can't see it, man. >> Come on. >> Right there. >> Come on. Come on. >> Okay. >> Help her. >> They're on the way. They're on their way, man. They're on the way. Leslie, >> are they >> They're on their way, man. As fast as they can. I told them to step it up. All right. >> Where did this happen at, man? You need to talk to me. Where' this happen at, man? Where did this >> not going to make it? >> Where did this happen at, man? >> She's not going to make it, is she? >> I'm not sure, dude. I'm not a doctor. Where'd this happen at? Where were you at when you got at, man? >> Bridge in a sweater. >> You're on bridge in a sweater. >> Bridge in a sweater. >> Leslie, stay with us. Leslie, ambulance is on their way. back. >> Where are you hit? Where are you at? >> My head. >> The back of your head. >> My head hurts. Really bad. >> Bridge in a sweater or Cors. Don't hit her. Don't hit me. >> Can you help me? Can you please >> help me? >> Hey buddy, what's your name? What's your name, buddy? >> Isaiah. >> Isaiah, can I get you down? Isaiah. >> Hey. Why are you taking him away? >> Just Just to make room for the paramedics to come. I got to make sure he's okay, too. Isaiah, can you step out, man? He's not He's not going to leave, man. I'll just >> I'm going to have you come over here with this officer. Okay. >> Leslie, can we wake up, please? >> Matt, do you know who did this? What's your name again? >> I see her. >> You're Isaiah, too. He's Isaiah Junior. >> Okay. Paramedics are coming up now. Okay. >> Can you help them? Can you help her? >> They're on their way, man. there. I told them to come as fast as I can. I'll have them come retrieve her right away. >> Authorities coordinated the search for the responsible driver while ensuring the family received medical support. During this time, the child revealed that the incident began because his father had been driving too fast. >> You're not hurting anyone. >> Just you want to sit back here for me real quick? >> I want to see what you >> in the front. Okay. >> All right, buddy. You can sit up here. You just sit here or or you just stay outside? >> I'm going to stay outside, but I'll lock the door for you. Okay. >> No, I'm going to stay with you. >> Okay, I'll stay right here with you then, buddy. You want to sit inside? >> No. Are you sure you're not anywhere? Let me look at you, buddy. Can you turn around, please? >> All right, I'm going to lift your shirt up. Okay. >> You're not You're not any way, right? Daddy. >> All right. He's all good. Two victims in the car. >> Wait, the doctor's going to do one. >> Yeah, they're going to they're going to help them out right now. Okay, buddy. Where are you coming from? Where are you guys coming from, buddy? >> Do something fun. >> You did you did something fun today? What did you do? >> You don't like water, but it was really long. >> Do what? >> The water. It was fun. >> You went swimming? >> Yeah. >> Where at? >> That's all I did. >> That's all you did? >> Yeah. Where is >> He's with an officer. He's safe. >> Safe with us. Well, I'm going to check the hospital later. Okay. >> Where's your dad? >> In that car? >> Yeah. >> What? So, what happened? >> The cop shoot my mom. >> The what? the cops to my mom because my dad go really fast. >> Cuz your dad go fast. What makes you say it's the cops? >> Oh, because my dad's friend has really fast fast. >> Your dad was going fast. Oh, guarantee was 390. Hey, man. >> Hey, Caris. Caris. Hey, bro. Hey, sir. You mind going back home? We got to knock the fence in here. Thank you. >> You're not hurt anymore. >> Okay. Is that your mama and your dad? They do a good pat down. There's a casing stuck in the window. So, they obviously were on too, so they were flying. They're putting clothes right now. Okay. >> There's what? There's a casing stuck in the window. Uhhuh. >> So, they were standing back. >> Yeah. You send the I don't I don't know. But he's saying that cops at the bottom. Not how we got done. But so we'll start taking it off here once up. >> I'll take it from right here. I might even push it back further. >> Yeah. Just to get all these people out of the way. >> No, we have a grandma and grandpa nearby >> or some family. Got family and grandpa. Start tracking down. Okay. >> Do you know any phone numbers out there? No. That's okay, buddy. That's great. >> Show charge the >> There's another impact right here on the wind on the door jam. >> So little kid apparently said that the cops I know >> cops. >> Yeah, that's that's a rifle right there. >> He said he's not just double jack. He has he does have random [ __ ] >> Okay, we'll double check. >> His name's Isaiah, too. >> Is your buddy? >> Yeah. >> What do you do? >> What do I do? >> Yeah. >> What do you mean? >> Like like you catch other people when you someone >> Yeah, sometimes. >> Why? That's so Why you do that every time? >> How's it going, fellas? >> Good. How you doing? >> Good. Is this involved with anything that you guys are aware of? >> Not that we're aware of. There was a black truck right there on ACC and a pretty much. >> Yeah. So I I stopped at the wrong scene and they said a white sedan truck and just kept on calling. So it might be this. He told me that before I even got here and that was bridging. Uh yeah, you guys are out with it now since we physical person come out from this area for 43 to clean them up a little bit. Sure. >> Yeah. >> Cool. >> Yeah, that's kind of cool cuz you guys I appreciate that you guys. Yeah, just kind of on the spaces on the on the lid later. >> So, they're just going to clean you up a little bit. You said you wanted to take that stuff off of you, right? >> No, I did not. >> No, I thought you were trying to peel it off. >> No, it don't work. So, I'll just leave it like that. >> They got some stuff that to clean you up and it won't hurt you. Okay, >> I'll just leave it like that. >> Well, it's kind of kind of gross to leave it on there, buddy. So, they'll clean you up real quick. >> Ow. >> Huh? >> We'll just get a little bit of water and we'll we'll wash it off. Wash the water first. Just like >> Just like when you have a a messy cheeseburger and it gets all over your face and you use a napkin. We'll just use the napkin on on you. >> It'll work. >> You You let them try, >> huh? >> Can you let them try to clean you up? >> At the doctor? >> No. Right here. They'll clean you up right here. We'll help you out. Okay. >> Contacting relatives was challenging as the boy could not recall specific family information. What's happening, officer? We just live right here. >> So, there was a road rage incident and people just acting like idiots, unfortunately. So, people are in and they're going to the hospital. So, now we might have a homicide scene. So, >> so sad. >> My officers just happened to be right here and so they flagged my officers down, but they were pretty bad. >> Horrible. >> You want to up there? >> Yeah. >> Brand new. Look. That's yours. All right. You can keep it. Is it so soft? Yeah. Do you know what happened? >> What happened? >> My my mom. >> Oh, no. >> How old are you? You're a big boy, huh? >> Do you do you know any of your other family members? >> Do you have an aunt or an uncle or a nana or a grandpa? >> I got nana and grandpa. Do you know Nana or grandpa's phone number? >> Um, my mom do. >> You know him, though? Do you know anybody's phone number? No. >> That's cool. Um, I his name's Isaiah. Uh, 4 years old. Doesn't know any phone numbers. I guess those were his parents. Yeah. He's lucky, too. >> Yeah. I have any danger. >> So, I've actually seen working. I don't know. I've been over here with him. We just got our guy to the hospital now. So, I'll try to get him from the place. >> Yeah, we can use our time crime center to see if we can cross to see the city has an eye on. >> So, did we know the support where you guys are? So, I guess that's what we were told. We had someone down looking at a sled bridge. I guess there was a couple witnesses down there that said they heard know from where about 15 20 minutes ago. So guess that kind of lines up just how it lasts over here. You guys have any like we had or you guys there's another one of you guys down with a 440 run with a black truck and I said there was a white car a fender that took off in front of that one who knows you got him. >> Yeah. Ultimately, although the initial suspect could not be [music] identified, police determined that the father had caused the incident, misled authorities, and sought help from relatives to cover up his actions. Video evidence later showed him attempting to remove related materials. He was charged with tampering with evidence and child abuse. Under New Mexico law, he could face up to 15 years in prison. Just one moment of poor judgment, even a minor collision, can become a serious event, especially when children are involved. And sometimes the greatest [music] risk comes from the person they trust the most. In Ohio, another child was desperately calling 911. And this time it was the victim who dialed. >> Go sit on your porch so I can ask her why she called police. >> On April 4th, 2022, Akran police received a 911 call from a 13-year-old girl reporting a serious conflict with her mother. As soon as they arrived, the mother, Amanda, rushed out yelling, "My child has an IEP." She insisted the police weren't qualified to speak with her [music] daughter and did everything to stop the investigation. >> She has an IEP. >> Okay. >> Sorry. She has an IEP. >> What's IEP? >> She's special needs. >> Okay. >> I need to tell you that. >> Okay. >> You're not trained. Well, then you need to call someone that's trained with people that are special needs. >> Well, let's just figure out what's going on. >> No, call. You've not been trained. I'm sorry, sir. You're so young. She has bit me. >> I'm not going to be able to talk. She's multiple times when I talk to someone. She looks like she's able to talk to us. Fine, ma'am. Can we just get >> Well, then look at how I look. >> Well, I'll tell you what. >> Look at how I look. >> Explain to you that about that. >> Sit on the porch. I'll talk to her. I'll talk to you. >> No, don't talk to her. Unless you talk to me in front of her. >> That's not true at all, ma'am. If I'm investigating child abuse is what I'm here for. Or >> child. >> Go sit over your porch. >> Go sit on your porch until I can talk to you. Go sit on your porch until >> Don't touch me. Go sit on your porch until I'm done walking. >> Call somebody that deals with IEP. Listen, I've took classes. Call somebody, sir. >> I'm not going to call someone. >> No, no, no. I have two classes. I'm telling you to go sit on your porch or you're going to be obstructing and you're going to go in handcuffs. Go sit on your freaking porch right now. >> Go sit on your porch. I'm trying to do my job and I'm just trying to talk to her >> to what's going on. >> That's not how >> Well, you're intoxicated and I'm trying to do my freaking job. Go sit on your porch. I can smell it on you from here, ma'am. >> Oh, wow. Boo. >> Go sit on your porch so I can ask her why she called police. She's calm. She seems fine and able to disc. I'll stand back here from her if you would like. >> She's >> okay. I will talk to you after I talk to her. Please go sit on your porch. >> You can't talk to her unless >> I absolutely can. >> No. No. She She's an IEP. >> I heard you the first time. >> Special. Listen, just >> I'm not asking her incriminating questions. >> Do me a favor. I know what I'm talking about. Call your superior. You have to have somebody come out here and talk to her. She's special needs. YES. OKAY. THERE'S GOING TO BE A LAWSUIT right now, sir. >> Okay. >> The officers quickly lost patience with Amanda's drunken, defiant behavior. They restrained her and instantly she flipped the script, playing the victim with the classic line, "You're on my property." >> Yeah, there is. >> Go sit on your porch. >> No, no, no. Special need. She gets a social security check a month. >> Okay. Go sit on your porch. I will talk to you in a second. Otherwise, you're going to go in cuffs for obstructing justice. >> I just asked you, sir. I've took classes. >> Okay, great. I still have to do my job. >> How old are you? 22 years old. >> Go sit on your freaking porch. >> I don't know what it's about. >> All right, I'm done with this. Turn around. >> You're under arrest for obstructing official business. >> Oh, really? >> Yes. >> Get off. >> Get on the ground. direction resisting arrest. >> Listen, this [ __ ] just put me in the ground FOR NO REASON. >> GET your mother out of my mother. I told you she has an stepping up. >> STOP IT. MY DAUGHTER CRYING. You wicked cop. >> If you would have gone to sit on your porch like I told you to, THIS WOULDN'T HAPPEN. >> SHUT UP. >> YOU'RE ON MY PROPERTY. YOU'RE ON MY PROPERTY. I'M INVESTIGATING A POSSIBLE DOMESTIC INCIDENT. >> NO, YOU'RE NOT. GET your knee on my You just put my face in his ground and I >> BECAUSE YOU RESISTING ARREST. >> NO, I WAS NOT RESISTING ARREST. YOU'RE A LIAR. YOU'RE A LIAR. YOU KNOW WHAT? I HAVE a Ring doorbell. I have cameras all around my house. You're a liar. You [ __ ] sick, [ __ ] YOU'RE A LIAR. GET OFF MY >> STOP MOVING. >> GET OFF OF ME. I'm not doing anything to you. Get off of me. Get off of me. Get off of me. I'm the victim today. Get off of me. She has an IEP. And guess what? I've took classes and they told me >> Well, guess what? YOU'RE GOING TO JAIL TONIGHT. CENTRAL SERVICES IS GETTING INVOLVED. >> NO, I'M NOT. I'm not stand up. I'LL STAND UP. STAND UP. NO, I'LL STAND UP ON MY OWN. PLEASE, please stop. >> And then even getting her into the car turned into a chaotic scene no one saw coming. >> Stop. stand. >> She's obstructing and resisting. >> You got >> Hold your leg up so you can stand up. >> I'm going to help you get up. You got to listen to him at this point. >> I can get up on my own, please. >> You really can't. We've got to help you. Okay. So, just let us help you. Okay. I'm going to help you. Okay. I got this side. All right. >> Push off your foot. >> Stand up. >> Bring this leg up. Okay. Bring it down there. Okay. So, you can stand up. >> I got you. We're not going to let you fall. Okay. Stand up. >> Ow. Ow. Ow. Ow. Stop. Stop touching my arm. >> All right. We're just going to walk you back to the car. Okay. >> For what reason? >> Cuz you're under arrest >> right now. You're under arrest. You need to step down off the ledge. Okay. >> I wouldn't know who >> for resisting arrest and obstructing official business. >> He'll have it. I kept >> You pulled away from me in handcuffs. >> Somebody has an IEP. It doesn't matter. You're still resisting right now. You're instru. I can feel you pulling and I can >> take a seat. We're going to call an ambulance in your face. >> Look at you and make sure you're all right. >> Need a double real quick. >> No. Take the handcuffs off. This is [ __ ] >> Yeah, we can't do that right now. Okay. >> Oh no. Give me a phone. I'm calling a lawyer. Give me a phone. >> You'll be able to do >> You can have your phone call at county. Take a seat. >> No, I'm not going to go to county. >> Take a seat. >> You need to take a seat right now. At this point, you're under arrest. Put your legs in. Put your legs inside the car. >> She has an IEP. I understand this. Sir, you just hit my face on this ground. >> I told you to go sit on the porch and get a STATEMENT FROM >> NO, NO, NO. MA'AM, >> how old are you? I get an answer to look. Please do. Please do. >> Put your legs in the car right now. Put your car legs or you're going to get shot IN THE CAR. >> SHOVE IN THE CAR. YOU HEARD ME. I HAVE STUFF. >> Put your legs. >> Put your legs on. >> I have stuff. I have STUFF ON ALL MY scoot back. get pulled in if you don't put your legs in >> all the way in. There you go. >> This wasn't the first time the child had been emotionally by her mother. CPS had stepped in multiple times. But this time, even though the victim called 911 and it was all caught on body cam, she still denied everything and turned around to accuse the police of >> She has to be deal with special police officers. She has an IP. YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO KISS THE LAW RIGHT NOW. >> If you could. >> No. Listen. >> Well, it's hard to listen to you when you won't let me get a word out. I hear you. You're intoxicated. Okay. >> I am. Listen. >> Well, you're making it You're not You're making it very hard to talk to you, ma'am. I'm not going to listen unless you can listen. >> She's been >> I'm not going to listen unless you can listen. >> Can this conversation go two ways? >> Okay. I hear that you're telling me she has an IEP. I understand. That's a school program. Well, you're again. You're interrupting me again. You're interrupting me again. >> You guys are not doing what you're supposed to do. >> Okay. Well, I'm going to go ahead and let you talk to >> You're supposed to have >> I'm going to go ahead and let you talk to a supervisor about that and we're going to have ambulance check you out. Make sure your face is all red. >> Different officers out here. >> You were obstructing and you wouldn't let us investigate to get to that information. >> We'll be able to go anywhere with her blanket. >> Well, that's unfortunately you decided that tonight. So, >> no, I didn't. That officer really hurt me >> because you resisted arrest. >> I did not resist. It's all on my ring. I did not resist. >> It's also on his body worn camera. So >> I did not resist him. I did not resist him. My daughter was even crying. I did not resist. She was crying because she called the police. >> She was on you because she felt like I was so and I would never I would never she bit me. I have like oldes all over my body. There's doors. If you go in my house, there's doors on edges. There's holes in the wall. You should have been reasonable with the officer to be able to explain that to us. >> I was trying to >> You were acting out. >> No, no, no, no, no. He I told him I was >> Do you We will We will get you some >> re He placed you under arrest. We can get you some resources for Dan Street. >> I have it all. >> Okay, we can get you. He was very very not. He was very >> Well, I don't think you're going to listen to me try to help you. So, I'm going to go ahead and start paperwork. >> I don't have any charges in in the last >> You have obstructing now. >> No, I don't. No, I don't. I didn't do anything of this sort. >> Okay. >> Let me out of this car. I have rights. I can't do >> No, I have rights. There are rights under constitution. There are rights. He smashed me on the ground. I have abrasions on my You know what? You'll take this. I >> Well, it's on video, so I mean, >> I wish you and I I absolutely will be. >> We can get you resources for Dan Street later for your daughter if you need. Do you need those charge? >> Okay. Well, then you can't claim that she's you to us if you don't want any charges, right? That doesn't make any sense. So, I'm going to go ahead and leave you alone. You can talk to a sergeant about this. I'll be right outside the vehicle. Okay. >> Right. Oh, >> because you objected. >> I did not. >> Okay. >> No, I did not. >> A sergeant stepped in trying to talk to her, but it was useless. Every question was drowned out by yelling, fake tears, and baseless accusations. >> So, we had to get The medics had to talk to you first, but I'm Sergeant Williams. I was not here obviously whenever they happened earlier. >> I need to see my my face. >> Your face? I actually have to take a picture of it anyway. So, how about I'll take a picture and then I can show it to you. Does that sound good? I've got to get a picture of >> Oh, I need all these hair clips. You're not able to twist for me? >> No. I'm able to get all these handcuffs because you're treating me like criminal and I'm not. >> Do you want me to get a picture of the white mark? >> Oh, no. The officer body. >> Okay. So, when he got out here, what happened when he first got here? What was going on? >> He didn't want to listen to me. I kept telling him I kept telling him to call I kept telling him to call >> special officers to deal with her because that's what they told me to do. >> Okay. You know what I'm talking about, right? >> CIT. I'm CIT. What? >> He didn't do it. >> Okay. So, what happened next? >> Can't do it. >> Okay. What happened next? >> All right. >> I don't This little girl is me all the time. I don't do She did me in the car today and I had to stop the car. Why? Cuz you don't know because I'm not going to do what my mom did to me. I'm not going to put her in you. >> Okay. So, you didn't call us earlier? >> She she >> So, so I'm only here to investigate what happened with the officer. So, you were asking him to call somebody else out here and then what happened? >> He didn't do anything. >> Did he give you any orders or tell you to do anything? >> No, >> he just I don't know why he did. I don't like he's like a big dude like I was going to eat. >> So, how >> I don't know. It was all on my ring video cam >> from I did comply to he had no business in my yard and then he attacked me. She kept spinning the same familiar lies forgetting it was her own daughter who called the police in the first place. >> What am I under arrest for? >> You under arrest for obstructing justice or official business? Official business. So he was giving you orders to step away so he could talk to your daughter. >> No, he was not. I kept telling him to call somebody. >> You did not listen to his orders. >> How do you know you weren't here? It's on camera. All the officers have cameras, okay? >> And I would like to get access to that. So, there will probably be a sergeant reaching out to you this week. Probably not me. So that we can get access to that video, okay? Cuz I would like to see it, but I can't see it right now because you are under arrest. >> I did. >> Here's the thing. >> Amanda, let's let's be let's be honest with each other. >> You can't even summon so I could go out my house. >> If you weren't drinking, you probably would have been able to listen to him, right? >> Listen. No, it's not. Oh my gosh. It's my day off. I worked seven days. I get it. I get it. But when the officers come out, you have to listen to them. >> He wasn't listening. >> That's not how it works. You have to listen to him because he was investigating. Okay. You can always ask for a sergeant, but you can't not comply. >> I did. >> You complied 100%. >> Yeah. >> 100%. You didn't do anything. You didn't try to pull away. You didn't try to not get arrested. You didn't argue with him at all. The cameras that I'm going to watch are going to show you being perfectly cooperative. >> I don't have to do when he went to put you under arrest. Did you cooperate? >> He had no business even being >> in my yard. >> Yes, he did. He had a call for a domestic situation. He had to investigate it by law. That is his job. Honestly, from what he told me >> and I told him that he had to call special people to deal with her and he didn't do it. So there you go. He still has to do his job. Nope. >> So there's nothing else you want to tell me? >> No, he didn't do that. He didn't do that. And he didn't listen to me. And he attacked me. He attacked me. He was placing you under arrest. >> Oh, no. No, no. He jumped on me. >> He jumped on you now. >> You act You act like I Do you think I resisted arrest? Do you think I touched him? Do you think I did any of that >> on camera? YOU PULLED AWAY. >> NO, I DID NOT. [crying] >> NO, I did not. >> Do it. >> I'm going to give you a minute to calm down and then I'll come back and talk. >> No, I did not. >> I'm going to give you a minute to calm down. >> No. >> Police gave Amanda another chance, but she clung stubbornly to her lies. >> When did I get When did I get on the phone? I just watched the video one more time. Is there anything you want to revise about your statement? >> No. >> About what happened today? >> No, >> I didn't take him or nothing. >> I didn't say you him. You did resist arrest. Okay. >> How? Why? Why would he even tell me I was under arrest >> for obstructing official business? Because you weren't looking to his orders when he's trying to investigate. >> I was telling him to call. Did you not hear that? Did you not keep hearing me say to call to call special officers out? Okay, then. >> That doesn't solve it, though. >> No. Yes. That's >> No, you still have to listen to the officer on scene. >> I did listen to him. >> No, you did not. Okay. So, do you have any other questions for me? >> I need you to uncuff me. >> That's not going to happen. Any other questions? >> Give me the summons and uncuff. >> Okay, go ahead and sit back in. >> No, I I I am. >> You already got an ambulance. >> No, they never did anything. >> Yes, they did. I stood right here the whole time. >> My arms. >> My arms. >> Put your knees in or your knees are going to hurt when I shut the door. I don't want to hurt your knee. So, sit all the way in. Amanda, sit all the way in the car. You're only going to make it worse. You're resisting. I never heard. So why were they even out here? You no he >> the mother Amanda faced charges of domestic dispute, obstructing official business, and resisting [music] arrest. Under Ohio law, she could face 12 to 18 months in jail, fines of up to $3,000 [music] and bail set as high as $18,000. Her daughter was taken to the hospital for a health check while CPS continued its investigation [music] into the case. At a sensitive adolescent age, living in prolonged conflict can lead to emotional disorders. These children often grow up feeling [music] unsafe, gradually losing self-esteem, doubting their self-worth, and developing a distorted sense of guilt. Some mothers are willing to sacrifice everything for their children. And then there are those so they drive their kids to run to the neighbor's house for help. I came up this morning cuz when she had me in the face when I opened the door, I let John in and he protected me and brought me up in. >> On May 5th, 2023, an emergency call to Illinois police was suddenly cut off. Still, they managed to catch the sound of an argument in the background and rushed over right away to check it out. When they arrived, the yelling could still be heard from the front yard. The door swung open, revealing an outofcrol mother shouting endlessly about custody rights and refusing to cooperate. >> Too bad we can hear some yelling from up to >> Hi. Did you call us? What happened? I need to go up here and get my son. Well, what? Tell us what's going on. >> I don't know, but I have custody over my son. So, come on. Is this your apartment here? >> Yeah. Okay. >> We're allowed to come in? >> Yeah. >> Wait, tell tell us what we're coming into, though, cuz I don't know what I don't know what's going on. >> Tell us why we're here. >> No. Come here, cuz my son keeps >> What's your name? >> No. Here. Come on. I'm not going to follow you into any more rooms until you tell me why we are here. My name is >> Okay. So, what's >> my son is a liar because he has a point of like he has a good grade point average but he's bad and then so what dude's head came down to it and now you want to sit over there and you want to lie to me. I have custody over you. I am trying. I am doing this [ __ ] as a woman as a single woman on my own. Ain't no section A. Ain't no link car. I am doing this [ __ ] >> I got you. What's What's he doing today? That's defying you. You know we got here right here. >> We got this. >> We're still talking right here and then we'll come. >> No, you need to come over here. Right here. >> Where are we going? And what are we doing? >> Right here. >> We can talk first. I don't I have no idea what this is about. >> He is allowing this dude to to sit there over here and then understand like this dude is supposed to be doing this and that and the third. But come on now. I'm your mother. And then guess what? I have to be I have to be the cool person. Then I have to be the authority person. And then I have to still be within whatever it is to be a parent. But first of all, that's my child. So let me ask you some questions real quick. Okay. You live here in apartment A. Where is your child at? >> My child is up here. And let's go up where? >> Up where? >> And then you going to come on here wherever. >> Where is he at? Is it in a different apartment? Are we going to a different house? like I need I need more details after >> and then ask Curtis. She said she is >> apartment B right here. >> So he's in apartment B with a friend or who does he know in apartment B? >> I don't know who he is. Am I going to come get my child? >> Okay. So who's he with >> or so y'all going to get the out? I can do either one but I need so I'm asking you yes I have jurisdiction that is my child and now he is mad because now I have to be two sides just cuz I'm a woman I have to be two sides I have to be authority then plus I have to be friends with you then plus I have to >> How old is he? >> He's 13. >> Okay. So you're trying to go to apartment B to get him to come back into apartment A >> who lives in Is that what I'm understanding? >> I don't know. Are you going to come over here? >> I'm happy to help you. I I First of all, you're not you're not going to snap your fingers at me. >> I'm not trying to ask to. But this is my son. Hey, no man gave [ __ ] for him. >> We understand. So, we're here to tell you his father went over there to the military, got blown up, and was up and I stayed here. I stay here and I got this [ __ ] I got this [ __ ] out the mud. Even this [ __ ] ain't no section. I did that. So you ain't going to tell me. Yeah, because it's hard. You going to have to do hard. It don't matter within like you're a boss. It doesn't matter if they like you. >> All right. >> What happens is they supposed to respect you. >> Let's go talk to your son. What's his name? >> Following the mother, police witnessed the entire horrifying scene. She barged into the neighbor's apartment and grabbed the child who had just fled domestic violence. And that's when the first charge came. Trespassing. I'm done with this [ __ ] >> Watch that. >> Who lives in number two? Stop banging on my damn my HEY Y'ALL. HEY, >> STOP. YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING, BRO? That's why that's exactly why he's up here. >> And that's not >> That's exactly why he's up here. Exactly why. >> Thank you. I told you. Go downstairs, get you some sleep, and sleep that drunk [ __ ] off. You doing this in front of your kids. >> Okay. >> No. And then Okay. You going for >> right now? You're being detained for trespassing. She changed her in my own business. >> Y'all need to go put her in. >> We have no idea what's going on. >> I got her kids. >> No, you are lying. Bring >> us another We'll get We'll get the story once we get her cuz she's got her daughter is coming too in a couple more minutes from school. So, I was going to bring her up there, too. >> We'll get the story in a second. I truly have really no idea what's going to Now I'm not detained. So, now I'm not detained. So you detain me for what reason? So now you have a false detainment because I live in the in the building. So what are you saying? >> Don't live in here. >> And what is trespasses, baby? You gave me a whole thing. >> Where does this door down there go to? >> And then here. No, we going it goes outside. >> Yeah, we going to go. Here we go. >> We are not ready to walk downstairs. >> Oh no. >> Yeah. And then say it. What are you handing me for? For trespassing. >> Yes. >> Okay. For within my own building. And there it is. It's recording. Everything is recording. >> It is. Everything. >> Yep. It is. And my phone. And my phone. And it's right in there. Here you go. And it's recording. So, I'm recording for trespassing within my own home. >> You don't live in number two. >> I don't live in number two, but it's still my building. >> That doesn't matter. So, okay, then let's go. >> Even while being escorted away, she kept screaming and rambling incoherently. >> We're going to wait till we have someone else that can help him walk you down the stairs. >> And bam, let's go. Let's go. >> We're not ready to go >> because No, you going to have to because Yes, everything is being on recording. >> Yes, we have body cam. >> Yes. And then you have body cam and so do I, too. And there's some recording. >> Look, I'm trying to get my I got somebody. She has an appointment after me. know my >> I know my son. >> How do you know her? JRO, do you want to let him in? >> I've been on her for a long time. >> Just a friend. >> Yeah. Acquaintance. Just been on her round, but she's my neighbor, obviously. >> Yes, son's in there with you because >> he knows me. And then let's let's go. And let's go. Hey, you know this is retain. >> He is. And now you retain me for no reason. in the apartment. She doesn't have her on something. Okay. Who's she talking to? >> Just herself. Okay. >> We just help get her down the stairs. >> All right. Take me down the stairs. If I don't get my son, I swear to God. >> That's on you. Some accountability and responsibility >> and then some responsibility. Slow. We don't want you walk slow without any permission. You are alive and now get me off of your >> son. Time to go. >> All right. >> I think this was pretty much it, right? >> Yeah. No, I didn't. And then put it on record. >> Keep going, JR. I got to go ask that guy a couple more. >> And then I put it on recording. Say I was going to do you. >> No, I didn't. Come on. And here you go. >> Then suddenly became agitated, threw herself to the ground, resisted wildly, and even an officer in the leg. >> And you know, I got the button to unlock his car. >> Is it J's car? >> So I said I was going to do to you, >> right? I said I was going to do her. Yeah, I'm recording. No, I ain't said I was going to do to this woman. Oh. Oh, not you. >> And I'm sorry if somebody >> I never did anything. >> So what did I do? You trespass. >> You lie. I'm trespassing on where I live at. You telling me I trespass on where I live at? Trespass on where someone else lives at. >> You going go on. Just get in. >> Don't resist. Okay. >> No. >> Get up. >> No. >> Aren't going to do it. >> We're going to stand you up. >> We're going to stand you up. >> Hold up. >> This ain't going to cut it. >> No. >> It's not. It's going to happen eventually. >> There is going to be There's going to be Yes, you can. >> You got to get up off the ground first. >> One thing. You can't find out from the ground. >> One thing at a time. Come on. Stand up. >> Is broken. My tooth is actually >> Your tooth is broken? >> Yeah. >> Are you Are you Are your feet broken? >> Yeah, it is. >> Can you stand up for us? >> No. Get me out of this. >> What What would get you to stand up? >> Get me out of this. And I ain't [ __ ] >> Make sure you stand up. >> Well, let's figure out. And I still have it on recording and with you in the car. If you don't want to put yourself in the car, >> it's your last chance to stand up. Don't >> Please stand on your own or you're never going to bother. >> Will you stand on your own, please? and knives. >> Will you stand on your own, please? Miss her. >> There we go. >> Don't do not >> ready. >> All right. All right. >> Turns out this mother was a alcoholic. She had been drinking since the night before, then her son right in front of his friends. If it weren't for the neighbors, [music] the boy might have taken the full force of his mother's inhuman rage. >> So, what's going on? >> Nothing. >> I came downstairs to get a blow dry from her, but they was having problems. He locked herself in his room. I here go y'all may right here. I seen her open the door and she comes out and trying to like girl you can't do that. Like says with me, bro, cuz she join obviously she out her mind. So, he knows me and he knows my son. They hang out and stuff like that. >> What's your relation with her? Nothing. >> Yeah, I just know them since he was a baker. He wasn't even walking. >> So, he's friends with your son. >> Yeah. >> Can I see him? >> Yeah. Come on. >> I just hear everything going around. >> He already is a good person, but she's had a lot to drink. >> Yeah, we can chill. We can tell. So, we we'll be taking care of it. I appreciate it. >> Tried telling her something now, >> and now we're here. Good. Well, thank you. No worries. >> Appreciate it. How's it going, bud? So, what happened to Aman? >> She was already drunk. >> Mhm. >> I went, she started talking to me about some stuff at the library. Me and my sister like cuz it was a kids at the library cursing. So, me and my sister went upstairs to like from the team room to the kids room. We was playing ABC. And so, she got mad like about something. I don't know. >> Your mom got mad. >> Mhm. I don't know. So, you just came home from school, noticed that she was drunk, went to the library with your sister. >> That was yesterday. >> Oh, that was yesterday. >> She was talking about stuff that happened yesterday. And so, when I tried to go in my room and just like, you know, block it all out. >> Okay. Was there something going on in the library that she was upset about? >> I don't really know. Like, cuz cuz she says my sister like I had told my sister to lie about something, but I didn't tell her to lie about them. >> Right. Okay. So, she's just Is she usually drunk all the time? >> No. >> No. She was trying to do this two week 74-hour day challenge like to not get drunk and to not drink none of that. >> What happened today? When did she start drinking? >> Last night. >> Last night. And it just gone came on to today then. >> Did you stay here with your neighbor for since yesterday then? >> No. I came up this morning cuz when me in the face when I opened the door, I let John in and he protected me and brought me up. Oh, this mother had once lost custody for but was given it back just for good behavior. The problem is after serving her sentence, she returned to the same pattern. Drunk, and irresponsible. Neighbors were sick of it. Time after time, she got drunk and took it out on the child. >> So, that's something you can't even get the >> Stop. And then you stop when you reach over to the stop. >> No, >> I ain't did [ __ ] And I said I ain't did. >> If you take it off, I'm just going to write you a ticket. Be dumb. >> You better write me a ticket in July. >> I'm going to need at least four months off for that. >> They're cool, man. I I can keep them until whenever y'all can get her back. I They'll be good. I'm good. charges. Are you going to press charges for her? >> So, she she's just detained right now. She was just trying to rush through the door. She's obviously not allowed in here. Yeah, there's a lot going on. So, okay. >> She's just trying to hurry up and get my hair done so I can go cuz she's really mad >> about the whole situation now. >> No, >> she's just upset about this chaotic. >> Okay. Obviously, she's not under arrest right now. You don't want to press charges, >> but she needs to fish tank. Y'all need to put her somewhere so she can sleep that off because if she comes back, guess what? Cuz they ain't going to call the police if she You know what I'm saying? >> So it's like, >> you know, we don't have a fish tank. >> Y'all need to y'all need to keep her for a while cuz all she's going to do is start back more chaos, more mayhem. >> So like how do things now aspect? So you don't want to press charges for the criminal trespass. >> So you really don't have anything, >> man. I'm not trying to do that, but she can't be in the same They can't be with her right now. That's all I'm saying. >> So, when did you get back from DCFS? >> Probably like three months. What? Three, four, five months ago. Yeah. She had Yeah, she had she had the social work lady coming over to make sure that everything was in order and stuff and I guess after a certain period she was able to get her kids back, but still it's like this is an ongoing thing. >> It's not good when she's >> No, she drinks every day and that's crazy. He just so happened to be home from work and then he has to deal with that all day while they at school. So I mean it's like that every single day dealing with her. She's always causing chaos. Everybody in the store knows about her. So this is just a matter which way she's downstairs. As soon as you go downstairs >> domestic violence remains a deeply troubling and widespread issue. It doesn't just cause depression, anxiety, and isolation. It silently damages the mental health, behavior, and development of thousands of children every single day. I'll >> follow you down. >> Okay, sounds good. I got to follow her and you are my child. And now you live on and I did everything that I was supposed to. Now you did live on >> Cal Sam 13. >> Yeah, you did that. >> And then I lied, right? And I was going to get my child, right? I'll be in PD with 195 starting mileage. >> 98219.1 98 219.1 >> put me in my crib. But you allowed that money. Look at this record. You said that I lied, right? >> All right. >> Yeah. What are my charges? >> Trespassing and resisting a peace officer. should be as long as you're cooperative. >> All right. But look though, bro, you should have been over there with him and that dude. >> No, bro. What are you talking about? Why are you talking to right now? >> Yes. He should not be upstairs. >> Turn around and walk in. >> Remember I said, >> and I'm telling you, he should I think I think she thinks she's talking to JRock. The general what I'm what I'm getting. >> I'm telling you, you should never ever have let him be over there with him. That's why I stood in the on the way a woman should do. Would you honestly let your son be over there with a man who honestly had five domestic viol a statistic? Can you take off your hoodie >> here? And I'm telling you that. Yes, I have a hoodie. You should have brought him down and let him see what it is supposed to be like. >> He didn't come in our but I'm going hold your shirt down. Take your hoodie off. >> Go over there and talk to Gabby. >> Let's get the hoodie off. >> Yeah. >> And then you So get your No, you got to do that. >> At the police [snorts] station, the mother still wouldn't stop. She screamed, resisted, even attacked officers, digging herself deeper into guilt. What's worse, she kept insisting she did nothing wrong and blamed everyone but herself. >> And place that in her glasses on the cover for me. >> You should. You left him within the wrong. >> I could have did more here. >> Well, we can address your concern because you busted into that apartment. >> I didn't bust into that apartment. I stopped my child from being involved within a drug deal. You >> How do you spell your last name, Bianca? >> Curtis. And I did. I did the right thing. And then now >> trying to be over like And now he doesn't feel like oh and look now. I think you know what he believes in like oh there no money or anything like that. Well, >> this is what I found in the car. >> She was She had the phone in her hand and this was sitting on the floor cuz it wasn't there this morning when I did my >> Oh, you know it was I tried to tell you when I tried to get my kids I tried to get my kids my son was arguing against me. Are you all done with the one? >> If he goes through that if he goes through that, it's going to be the same. >> I never got to leave that stuff here. But you can tuck in your your but >> we're going to go on number four. I don't even know who you're talking to. You allowed a child to go. >> I didn't allow anybody to do anything. Okay. This way, please. Okay. >> Don't touch him. >> I'm not going down. >> Get down on the bench and stay there. >> This is going. >> You don't EVEN KNOW WHO YOU'RE TALKING TO. >> Watch your fingers. Watch your fingers. WATCH YOUR FINGERS. >> STOP. ON THE GROUND. STOP. Sit down. >> Grab grab me one MORE TIME. ONE MORE TIME. >> ALL RIGHT. >> I SAW IT. PLEASE DO NOT LET >> GO. SIT DOWN. DAMN. >> AGAIN. STOP. >> KNOCK IT OFF. Please stop. >> We're going to go check on him. You stay right there. Did she grab or push or anything on you to where? >> Yeah. >> All right. Well, then I'm calling for a felony review. The mother was arrested and held on three charges resisting arrest, trespassing, anding a peace officer. Under Illinois law, she could face up to 6 years in prison, fines of up to $50,000, and a total bail ranging from $16,000 to $32,000 for all three offenses. A child's future is shaped by the example set by their parents. No matter how hard life gets, parents must never take their anger out on their children. That's not just a responsibility, it's the only way to truly protect them. Sometimes just one thoughtless choice, a brief lapse of control or a single moment of self-justification can change the course of a life entirely. The children in today's stories are not just bystanders. They are the ones affected by those who were meant to keep them safe. And if you think such events only happen elsewhere, remember every tragedy starts with a small overlooked action. 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