[Music] You got her on camera right now? >> Yeah. >> All right. Where she at? >> That's like straight down that main aisle. You l >> This is live right now. >> Yeah. >> All right. I have my one of my officers. >> All right. I'm going to disconnect. Okay. >> Okay. All right. Thank you very much. One of my guys are going to be outside. We're going to just kind of catch her walking out. >> Yeah, both of these bags are full. One of those is full of like champion clothing. >> Well over. >> How do we know if she's shoplifting? What is she doing? >> Rapid selection handfuls of jewelry at once into the bag. >> Okay. She hasn't attempted to leave yet or >> No. No. >> Okay. >> She's opening something right there. She has concealed more. He dumped that into the bag. >> I think that was like coffee pods right there. You saw >> bag just stumped into the bag. Easy. >> Both these bags are full and the bags themselves are ours. >> 137 107. She's still in the store shopping. Just come inside. >> 440 got here as well. >> 104 137 210. >> Yeah, she's still >> Do you guys just want to hang out outside? I'm watching on camera right now. She's still put stuff in her bag. Where she on the outside? [Music] >> Where is she? It's like a shopping bag or like a book bag. >> A bag she selected from our sales floor. Like a um tote bag. >> It's a tote bag from Target. She's got three bags, two black and one orange. >> Okay. 109. [Music] >> Where she at? Where' she go? >> Fitting rooms. She just concealed the mother thing. >> 10 for She's walking towards the exit right now. It's gonna be a black female dreads, blue top, blue jeans, and tan shoes. She's walking around now. >> Stay here. They got it. They got it. >> She ain't going to go. She saw the cop car. >> She think two black bags, orange bag. She's walking out. >> Wait, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hey. All right. Sorry. I know you love me. >> Yeah. The store called >> Just stop. Just stop. Just stop. >> Leave your det. >> You're under arrest. Put your hands behind your back. >> Put your hands behind your back. >> Arrest the shop. >> Put your hands behind your back. >> Put your hands behind your back. >> Under arrest. You want to arrest? >> I just I just watched you. >> Put your hands behind your back. >> Get the [ __ ] off. >> All right. >> We got hands. I got hands. >> We got cuffs. >> Get off of me. Get off. >> Let's get that. Do not kick the edge. All right. >> You're going to get charged with resist. >> No, you're going to get charged with resist. Don't make it worse. Well, they don't want to make any worse. >> Get off of me. Y'all got your [ __ ] >> And now we got you cuz you're under arrest. >> We didn't need to be like this. >> Get off of me. >> Yeah. Watch the jewelry. >> Stop moving. >> Stop it. Stop it. You make it. You make it. Yeah. Stop resisting. Stop resisting. You You have to make it like hurting me. >> What? >> Get off of me. >> Stop. >> Get off of me. >> Just make sure that's uh >> Get off of me. >> Yeah, we're good. There we go. Good. >> Yeah. >> Get off. >> This could have gone a lot easier. >> I gave >> I just watched you on camera. Good boy. It has nothing to do with it. >> I gave the stuff. How? I didn't leave the store with it. >> You just walked out the store. >> I did it. I dropped the stuff. >> I watched you on camera. >> I dropped the stuff. I dropped the conversation. Let's just go inside. >> Yeah. Right. That's right. You observed everything on camera. >> My car is right over here. >> All right. >> All right. We're going to bring you inside. >> Get off me. >> All right. >> Stop it. Stop. You're going to make it over. It's over. It's over. >> Get the [ __ ] off of me. >> You're angry because you got caught. >> We call 41. >> I'm angry because I dropped your stuff. I tried. >> Are you taking her in? You want her inside? Put her. You can put her in the car. Tyler, take Yes. [Music] Stand right here. >> Just spread your legs. >> Like I don't understand what y'all doing all of this for. Y'all got the stuff. >> Just don't have the stuff though. >> You didn't even say nicely like, "Oh, I'm sorry you got me." You just threw it on the ground and tried to walk away. You could have been like, "All right, I'm sorry, officer." again. Listen, you're under the stuff. >> That's still legal. Anything in your pockets? >> This is my stuff. >> Okay, but you're under arrest. >> Give me my stuff. >> I got it. >> Where's my bag at? Where's my phone? >> Where's my phone? >> Yeah, that's a personal private account. Of >> course. Oh, now you're done. >> I don't care. You >> say that now. Sick. Yeah, >> I see. >> Okay. >> You have a phone? >> H >> I don't think we have anything. Chrissy, your phone or anything? >> First not my phone. >> You got it? >> Yeah. Sorry not opening. Get off of here. I don't need this. >> You're under arrest. This isn't This isn't Burger King. You can't get your order. I >> don't care. I don't care. >> Please sit in the car. >> No. >> Sit in the car. >> Get in the car. You're under arrest. >> No. It's >> going to make it even worse. [Music] >> You're just going to get more charges. >> You understand that, right? Where you from? >> I don't care. I don't care. >> There you go. >> All right. >> Let's go. >> Um I'm going to grab I need to grab everything. I don't know if you guys want to transport her now or just >> We We got her. So, >> it's not going anywhere now. So, >> why the [ __ ] are you dragging me? Like, what the [ __ ] You want to start playing stupid games and act in the car >> that night. >> You guys are all right though. >> What What do you need from inside? >> Uh, >> I can get all that. Yeah, I'll get it. We'll get it. >> Uh, footage. >> Put this in your car. >> Footage. Um, I need to grab her information. I have Garrett's information. >> Um, he >> What else? >> I'll get it all. Don't worry. You can deal with that. >> Is uh >> they're signing up or they want to sign? >> Uh yeah. >> Okay. Yeah, we got Don't worry about >> going inside. >> Not sure if he specific. >> I'm sorry. >> Somebody will meet you inside. We'll get this stuff for you. >> I'll go get >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just trying to think. Jeff is inside. >> Just getting We'll do the hard part. You just got to go in and process and figure out when the truck >> Oh, yeah. That's the hard part >> right now. It is. >> Um, okay. So, uh, >> yeah, we'll go do this real quick and then we'll meet you inside. I'll make sure Jess is good and if she's good, then we'll follow. >> Uh, so shoplifting resisting. Are we doing resistance by force or now based upon what she is doing? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I'm going to go grab a victim witness. >> Uh, Keith. >> Okay. I'll buy you back [Music] 137 backwards. Transporting one female 41 in target 103 right here. 64 812 64 812 >> 107 following. [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] 35. [Music] [Music] [Music] Heat. Heat. Where's going? [Music] Heat. Heat. [Music] Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. [Music] [Music] Come [Music] on. [Music] We still have 44 in front location. Thank you watching me. [Music] [Music] 137 left. [Music] 64 814 64 even corner. Hey sir, one first. You going to be cool? You mind stepping on out? >> 135 headquarters. >> Ma'am, you mind stepping on out? Okay. >> Ma'am, I don't want to pull you out of this car. Do you mind just stepping out? >> I'll be clear. I'll do an alarm. All right. >> Stop pulling me. Stop pulling me. If you were pulling me, you're making this way harder than I need to. I don't give a [ __ ] Y'all sitting here grabbing me. No, I'm angry because y'all grabbing me. Y'all could have [ __ ] called the female officer. No, it's no way. So why she wasn't grabbing me? Why y'all grabbing me? Why she wasn't grabbing me? It's not because yelling. Stop yelling. It's not your >> Just leave me alone. Just get off of me. I can't cuz you're going to be with us for the next couple hours. >> But it's a whole female right there the whole time. >> The wall the wall ma'am please do not know your law. You need to study a little bit. >> I don't need to study nothing to know that a male officer is not supposed to be touching a female. >> Okay. Whatever. Okay. >> Whatever you >> Yeah, I know. I know. >> That's why you're under arrest. >> I don't give a [ __ ] I don't care. >> Of course not. >> Yeah. >> I don't >> what she said. >> This could have been handled much much differently. >> It's It's going to go so smoothly if you just >> It could have been Maybe that you just >> I dropped the stuff. >> It doesn't matter. But the thing is you start walking away from our officers. >> I was not walking away. I dropped the stuff. >> Have a seat, ma'am. Please. >> I don't want to sit down. Well, it's it Listen, this is going to go either really smoothly and get you out of here as fast as you can or you're going to be difficult and it's going to make it 10 times longer. So, can you just have a seat, please? Please. I'm asking nicely. I've said please probably like three times so far. Okay. Have a seat. Have a seat. If you don't want us touching you, then just cooperate with us. It's that easy. Have a seat. Please. Please sit down. Don't square up with them. That's That's a battle you're not going to win. Have a seat. Please have a seat. Have a seat. Sit down. >> Why you got to make this difficult? >> You're calling. >> Stop playing the games. You're call. We I watched you. >> I didn't say I didn't do nothing. >> I watched you. >> I didn't say I didn't do anything. >> I said protection was watching you for about a good 20 minutes. >> I didn't say I didn't do anything. >> Okay. Well, again, we caught you. We're calling. So, >> please cooperate us and we'll get you out of here as fast as possible. >> The way you act is going to depict this whole thing. Okay, >> I'm being nothing but a plug to you and you're making it 10 times more difficult. So, just please have a seat. Have a seat. Was she searched? Did you search her? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. [Applause] Have a seat. Sit down, ma'am. Please sit down. >> Do you want to spend all day here or do you want to get out quick? >> This literally could be as simple as a ticket and a court. >> Is that how you want this to go? >> Just sit her down. >> It is what you're making. >> We're trying to >> sit down. >> Trying to be quiet. >> Listen. Just stop. It's done. It's over with you. >> I'm trying to be nothing but play with you. >> Cuff her to the back. >> You got to cuff you. >> Yeah. >> I'm comfort. >> No. Cuff her first. >> No, I'm taking >> Cuff her first. And if she's got to keep her hands behind her back, so be it. >> Move her down. >> She doesn't want to listen. >> Just Just stop. It's over. All right. Just stop. >> Is she cuffed? >> Yeah. She's tough to the bench. Leave her if she wants to do that. >> Okay, leave her. Leave her. Come >> stand >> because that's our rule. >> That's policy. We have procedures. We have >> really don't care about laws. I'm not stand up. That's fine. >> You have any idea on you? Nothing. >> Can you give me Can you give me any >> Again, this the the more you cooperate us, the faster you're going to get out of here. Trust me, I don't want to be with you as much as you don't want to be with me. All right. But just cooperate. Just stay here all night. might not work. >> What's your first name? You give me your first name. >> We'll figure out who you are anyway. Whether you want to cooperate or not even get the cuff through. >> Yeah, that one. >> Move her to the side. >> She's going to be secure to this bench whether she likes it or not. >> Go over there. >> Is that she to this one? >> Yeah, we'll just fine. >> Oh, yeah. That one's fine. >> Then she can't go anywhere. >> She doesn't get to make her own decisions when she's in our custody. >> Doesn't Burger King have >> cooperate. >> The more you cooperate, the faster this goes, the faster you get out of here. >> And that's the less time that you have to deal with us. I know you don't want to be here. The last thing we want to do, >> do not give these officers a hard time. >> Okay. I meant like if she doesn't nobody wants to be in the situation including doesn't want to give up her right hand. >> So I'm just going to explain how this works and you'll have to listen but I do have to legally tell you especially on camera which is great about body cameras. So you need to provide your name. If you don't we will fingerprint you to find out who you are. If you don't do that you will get another charge and then on top of that we will bring you to the county jail and you will stay there indefinitely until you provide your name. So, we're going to ask you some questions. Take a couple minutes to think about it. In through the nose, out through the mouth, woosaw, whatever you got to tell yourself, but we're going to ask you for your first name, last name, date of birth, all that stuff. You provide it, great. If you don't, you get fingerprinted. You don't do that, you get another charge. You don't do that, you go to county jail, and you stay there indefinitely, literally for the rest of your life until you provide your name. So, take a couple of minutes, cool down, woo, think about it, and we got to turn the computer on anyway, and we'll go from there. [Applause] more time. She doesn't have anything identifying her like the camera. >> Don't get her identity. >> Identify her. >> You guys need anything? You're good. >> Good. >> I'm going to start sanking. So, how do you want to go? We'll start with the basic first question. What is your first name? How about your last name, date of birth, social security number, nickname? That's fine. >> Have you ever been out to the county jail? It's in three old depending on where you live in like close again. He's still turning the computer on. There's still time to turn it around and change your mind. >> There's no way out of this one. >> You're only making this worse. I want to get you out as out as fast as you want to be out of here. And my colleagues have been nothing but polite to you for >> Okay. Well, again, you run the show here. So, if you're cool with us, we're going to be cool with you and we'll get you out of here as fast as we can. But right now, you're just adding on more charges. You're making it difficult for yourself. You're making it difficult for us. We have a job to do. This is a consequence of your actions. Okay? So, please just be cordial with us, and we're going to be cordial with you. I've said please probably like five times so far, okay? You let me give me your name. >> We'll fingerprint you. >> So, we're going to fingerprint you now. We're going to figure out who you are, which is going to probably add on another hour or two. And then from there, I have to sign complaints. It's probably going to be another hour. And then you're likely going to be going to county. And that's about 30 40 minute drive depending on my drive. >> I'm going to click the button here. We can't go back once I click this. >> You want to tell you are you want to sit here and waste time? >> Still not too late though. It it definitely is not. I have no problem flipping back. What are your thoughts? What do you think? >> You say first name, last name, date of birth, all those basic questions. That's it. >> So, just to let you know, you're being charged right now with shoplifting. This is a very, very minor thing legally speaking, okay? like very very low level criminal offense. Normally people get arrested for shoplifting and they come back here. Well, depending on how cooperative you would you would have been arrested at the party was just going to say, "Hey, come back. Give me your name." We'll pass that point. So now we're looking at a ticket. A ticket means here you go. Please just show up to court on whatever date two weeks from now. So that's just a single charge for shopping. You did resist. So you're going to get a charge for that. Now there's a third charge which is failure to let us fingerprint you because you were required by law to submit the fingerprints. So if you don't do that, that's an additional charge. The problem with that is that's a mandatory trip to county because if you don't identify yourself, we can't ensure that you're going to show up to court. So that's why you will sit in the county jail indefinitely. I mean, obviously the quicker you give the name, the quicker you come out, but you have to provide this stuff. So >> I don't know what your thought process is right now, but like we are past the point of like where this is going to work out the way you think it has. So, all you have to do is just give us your name. We do the report. >> You have to get fingerprinted. If you don't do that, you will go to the county jail because we don't know who you are and we can't ensure that you're going to respond to the tickets that we're going to give you. So, that is a mandatory warrant. You will go to the county jail and you will stay there indefinitely. I just want to make sure you understand that more so that you understand it. Also to say that I told you legally speaking, we're on camera, recorded, all that stuff. So, nobody can sit here and say, "I didn't warn you several times." Trying to give you every opportunity. None of us want to take you to the county jail for what is arguably such a stupid thing. You had a reason for what you did. You concealed items in your bag. We don't even know what that reason is. We didn't ask you what it is, but you just stole stuff from Target. You didn't murder anybody. You didn't steal a car. You stole groceries. This is not that serious. Please don't make this more serious than it has to be. Okay? So, ponder it for a couple minutes, but we're going to pick a front you. And if not, you will go to the county. Okay? [Music] We just did the Let me ask you, do you want to go home tonight? So, I'm pretty sure you'd rather sleep in your own bed than in the county jail and there's no ifands or buts about it. If you decide that you want to go in this path, you will go to the county jail. I want to get you out of here so you can go home. You can sleep in your own comfy bed tonight. >> If you want, you want to read this over real quick. This is the wall. Actually, >> we don't need to go in the path that we're going right now. So the more you cooperate, the better it's going to be for you. >> It says refuse fingerprint. It goes over all things you're legally everything I told you. But you don't believe me for whatever reason. If you want to take a minute, I will leave this here. Again, I don't I just want you to understand what you're entitled to do and what you're not entitled to do. You don't have the right to refuse this. This is more charges than it will lead to the county justice. I want to take it over read it. I got to bring it to you and explain it to you several times. We've given you now I don't know we've been here inside this room now for probably 10 plus minutes and we're going to be here a little bit longer too not only to give you an opportunity to comply um just to get you to really make sure because once this is not like once you pass this point like there's no going back again. We're past the point of shoplifting that's too late. We're past the point of resisting arrest that is too late. We are not past the point of you identifying yourself and not getting that charge which comes with a mandatory incarceration. Again, you're not going to prison. You will sit in a county jail cell until you identify yourself. So, that could be you voluntarily doing it, giving us your name, or that could be the the corrections officers taking your hand and forcing it up against the machine and making you get fingerprint, which is what we're essentially going to do next, too. But I'd rather give you plenty of opportunities to comply. You >> want to speak to the female officer? >> Yeah. Okay. Give us a few minutes. She's going to be coming here and then hopefully we'll get the ball rolling once she gets here. [Music] You want to read this? Okay. Again, this is the uh the law that mandates you have to get trained. >> You going to cooperate with her? Mom's going in. You might have to pick up your phone. >> Yeah, I don't. Whatever happened out there happened out there. Okay, >> we can reset. We can go in the path that's going to get you home. >> Cuz obviously your mom's concerned about you trying to figure out where you are. >> So if you don't answer your phone, she's probably going to think something's going on. So I'd rather get you home and do what you want to do at home rather than spending your night at the county jail. We also feel like we're past whatever happened out there. Okay. What we can do here right now is reset everything. Okay? Right now, your actions are going to dictate the actions that we take. And the last thing we want to do is take you out to the county jail here. But if you're not cooperating with us, we can't identify who you are, then we have no choice but to take you out there. And I guarantee that you don't want to call your mom and say that you're going out to the county jail when she's asking where you're at because she's getting off work right now. [Music] You want some water? [Music] >> Not a negotiation. I'm just offering. You don't have to. chest on the way in. >> Can we start by taking those handcuffs off you? >> Okay. Are you going to cooperate with us? If we take the handcuffs off you, you're not going to start flailing around and trying to hit us. Okay. This is trust me between me and you right now. Okay. Let's make this work. Turn around for me a little bit. the other hand around. Do you want to sit or you want to stand? Listen, like I said, whatever happened out there happened out there. Let's try to turn that around and go in the right direction. Let me ask you, are you 18 years old? Yes. Okay. What's up? So, >> give me a second. >> Water. >> I'm not I'm not going to ask you why you did what you did. Whatever you did, it happened. Okay? That's in the past. Whatever happened out there happened out there. Okay? So, let's reset while we're inside so we can get you in, get you out. You call your mom. You tell her to come pick you up cuz you decide you want to come to the town of the police department for whatever reason. Okay? You don't even have to tell. You're an adult. You don't want to tell her that you got arrested. You don't have to tell her, but let's try to make this go as smoothly as possible. Can we come to agreement with that? All right. So, with that being said, are you willing to give us your name? >> Yes. What is your first name? >> Lauren. >> What is it? >> Lauren. >> Lori. >> Lori. >> Lauren. And what's your last name? Lauren. >> Tomkins. >> Tomkins. Okay. Where do you live? >> Dash. >> What's that? I'm sorry. >> Okay. >> Is it T H O M P K I Ns? >> What's your say three? Have you ever been before? >> No. Got all that info. >> What's your 227 2000? L A U R >> T H O N P K I N S. >> Thank you. >> Just so you know. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. your actions by taking the merchandise out of that store after the final sale point which is the registers and you come out of that store it still qualifies as shoplifting whether you drop the merchandise or you don't drop the merchandise it's still shoplifting okay so at that point we try to talk to you kind of drop the stuff you started walking away officer lick now try tried to stop you started pulling away from him all right at that point he advises you were under arrest tried to effectuate the arrest and you still started pulling pulling away. Okay? So, when people start pulling away from us, we start pulling back, right? So, if anybody started beating up on you, would you beat up on them? So, I'm not saying that we're beating up on you, but the thing is, you start pulling away from us, we have to effectuate that arrest, okay? And that's why we uh put your hands behind your back for you. Okay? going forward, your actions of not getting into the car, not exiting the vehicle and stuff like that is the reasons why we took the actions that we need to take. Okay? Your actions come with uh consequences. Okay? If we ask you to get out of the car or we ask you to get into the car because you're under arrest so we can process you, it's not your way. Okay? At that point, you're under arrest and it goes our way because we have to bring you in to get processed. Okay? We're not trying to be mean people. We're just trying to do our job. I hope you understand that. Okay. So, I appreciate you being cooperative and giving us the information. Like I said, and officer like N said, you'll probably just get the two charges for shoplifting depending on what the degree. How much was it? >> 480. >> So, this Kevin just to go grab something real quick. >> So, you've never been arrested before. >> It's a shoplifting >> and you have a resisting charge that you're going to get as well. >> We'll see if we can get you out of here on a summon and and we're done. Okay. For today, you're going to have to come to court. Actually, it'll be uh sent out to the superior court in freehold because it's an indictable crime. It's an indictable amount that $400 something dollars. Okay. So, you're going to get correspondence from Freehold, the Superior Court, going to go out to them. They'll most likely remand it back to municipal court here in D Falls where we hold our court. Okay? I'm just being straightforward with you, okay? Just let's let's be honest with each other. You're honest with me. You give me your information. I'm trying to be the same with you, okay? Do we have any questions? No. Do you have a driver's license? >> I can't deal. >> You don't have Have you ever gotten any kind of ID from uh the DMV? >> Never. >> How'd you get to Target? >> The bus. >> The bus. >> The bus. >> Listen, like I said, we're being honest with each other. If that's really not your name, please let me know now. Because if it's not, I give you one chance. If you're lying to me and we have to start fingerprinting to find out who you are, then you're going to get another charge on top of that for hindering. So, is that your real name? Is that your real birthday? And that's your real address? Okay. So she's got no ID. She never got anything from DMV. >> We knew a criminal inquiry just to confirm that. [Music] >> Have you ever had any incidents with Long Branch PD? >> No. Have you had ever had any kind of interaction with any law enforcement? No. Maybe it's just me and I like to see the good in people. I'm hoping that you tell me the truth. Okay. >> Put your ass. >> I'm sorry. [Music] It's a 973 number calling in. Just let you know. We're not going to answer. Um, how come you never got your driver's license? You don't like to drive? You don't want to drive? No. Just rather have other people drive you around. I hear you. Does your mom work local? You don't have to answer me if you don't want to. She works local. Okay. Are you afraid of your mom's reaction? What's going to happen? No. Do you have to do that? Like you send the link um for like stores upload. >> Uh yeah. Uh >> go on edits.com, right? >> Yeah. You're supposed to give them like a link for you. >> I have no idea, but Uh >> I think if they sent you the video, >> we >> you could just you could just send it to them or uh they could just send it to you in email form and then you upload it into evidence.com. >> Yeah. Yeah. I've never done >> So if they email it to you, let me know. We'll load it into evidence. >> You're going to do it to >> All right. So let me >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. You can uh you create a case and then you upload that video into that case and put it under the case number. So anything As far as that case number pops up, it'll have videos, body cam, car cam, all that kind of stuff. Are people going to start getting worried if you don't answer your phone? Your mom going to get worried? You don't know. Looks like he's saying no. You know who that is? I listen. I don't care. I'm just trying to help you out. Lauren, >> you ever been stopped by a police before? >> No. >> She's never had any interaction with any police. >> Is he very first time? >> Um, nothing's coming back to that social. I am going to Hey, >> you want to um you want to hold branch? See if anything >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. She uh you have to write that down. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I'm still trying to figure out if that's her information. What was your birthday? >> Are you using your birthday or you're using your birthday? >> Okay, we're going to start asking questions, seeing other departments to get this information. I'm really just trying to be honest with you. This is everything correct information. [Music] >> Well, someone is going to know. >> Well, so just just to kind of explain the whole process once we start booking you um since you've never had a a DL or any of that stuff >> technically to the state you have on file. We want >> No, I know. But I know, but this is going to generate a state ID number for you. And we just want to make sure and cross reference everything just to make sure everything's correct because again that's on file for the state. Okay. Because it's an indictable crime, it's going to you're going to have a record now. Um we just want to make sure we're crossing we're doing everything on our end just to make sure all the information is correct. Yeah, >> I'm trying to I'm trying to I'm trying to save you from that because that's just going to prolong everything. I really don't want to see you catch no drugs. >> Okay. >> So, while they do that, I just want to reexplain. So, like we have to figure out it's not like optional. Like the law requires when people arrested for top >> Hey, it's officer Chris from meeting. That's what I was saying. >> Hey, not too much. Uh, I want to see if you could check your cat for a name and an address. See if you guys have an interaction with her. >> First name is Lauren. Common spelling. Last name Tomkins. Tango Hotel Ocean. Mammoth Papa India. November. >> She said she lives over at saying we'll extra minutes. Did >> she give me her phone number? You got it. So >> 2011 2019 Hello. >> Yes. >> There we go. >> What's her birthday? >> Her first name is Lauren. >> Yeah. What's the last name? >> Hillsman. >> Hillsman. L. >> Yeah. Remember I told you that one chance. >> Now you're No, no, no. I gave you that one chance. >> He just lied to me. He was He was just being cordial with you, too. >> I was being super nice. >> I have two last names. >> Really? Why didn't you mention that? [Music] >> Okay. >> Okay. Well, now >> does she Do you guys have a DL on file for her? >> Uh, yes, we do. Hillsman, go ahead. All right. >> So, it's hotel. >> Is it DL or ID? [Music] >> Okay. No problem. All right. I appreciate it. >> Thank you. Yeah. Go on. >> Bye. >> Remember I asked you if you had an ID or a driver's license and you said no. >> I don't. >> Really? >> I don't have a >> So, so here's Okay. You think I start? >> I'll start right now. Right in my bag. >> I'll start. Listen. Listen. I'll start right here. Okay. You would not have had any kind of ID number within the state of New Jersey if you never had any interaction with the police. The only way that gets generated is if you've been stopped by the police and you never had a license or you went to the DMV and you get an ID. So that's how I know you're you're talking crap. Okay? And I gave you a chance. Listen, did I not give you a chance? I was being super cordial with you. I gave you a chance and I said, "You got one chance." >> So you want to call somebody to verify my I have two last names. I don't have a reason to lie about a last name. Why would I give you everything else except the last name? >> You tell me. >> Why would I give you everything else except as I have two last name? >> And then I asked you if you have had any kind of police contact. >> I didn't. I didn't. >> Really? >> No. I I've never been to jail. No. >> No. No. I didn't say you said that. Have I ever gone to jail? >> Yes. But I also said have you ever had any police contact, any interaction with law enforcement? And you said what? No. I asked you if you ever went to the DMV to go get an ID. You said no. So, the only way that you can get an ID only in the state of New Jersey is if you had any kind of interaction with police or you got stopped, you received a ticket or whatever it is when you didn't have a license. >> So, now I'm I'm past the point of being nice to you. I tried to be super nice to you and I gave you an opportunity. But now, >> what you're talking about, I've never with an ID. I don't know what you're talking about. >> Okay. >> I've never had to go to DMV to get issued an ID for having a ticket. That never happened to me. >> I don't know what your turn. I don't know. >> You probably thought that we weren't going to find out who you were because >> I gave you my I gave you my first name, my last name, and my my date of birth. I gave you my social security number. So, how >> how >> so what's Tomkins? >> How? That is my mother's last name. That is my name and last name. My name is Lauren Tommpkins Hillsman. That is my last name. >> So why didn't you think to tell us that when we're asking your name? >> I didn't know it mattered. That's the That's the last name I use on my page when I'm writing down. I didn't know it matter. >> You're saying is a driver's license, right? You're saying you have >> suspended, too. >> Okay, never mind. That you're saying you have two last names, right? >> Yes. >> So, we're asking you identify yourself. >> Is it a valid driver's license or >> give us both last names? >> Why not? >> I didn't know that it mattered. I don't use those. >> It doesn't matter that you don't use it. You know that on >> So, for whatever reason, she got stopped. Actually, I'm going to >> You just give it to Let me ask you. >> It's It's a simple question. >> I didn't know that. >> Okay. All right. If you just can keep saying that, that's fine. >> I just want to dispel her a little more and check if she's gotten any tickets cuz that's the only way that you get an ID like that. But she's suspended so I would imagine she would have tickets, right? So, as you said, you do have court date um October 7th, 2025 at 8 a.m. Um it's at Mount Can, which is at 71 Monument Park in Freel, New Jersey. Um and they're going to be reaching out to you if it does get um brought to court and then they'll take it from there. Of course, someone will take it from there. >> Uh, you have any more questions for me? >> Any more questions for me? >> That's yours. Um, >> all right. What else do you have? Her stuff. >> Is her phone and everything in there? >> Yeah. Everything that's in her bag. This is all her jewelry here. >> She put like this she wants to grab and put in her pocket. Stay right there. She saw the whole time. All right. >> You You just threw out your earrings. >> I know. >> You don't want them. >> You don't want your earrings? >> No. >> Okay. >> All right. All right. Grab her, please. >> I get to see you out in the hallway. Okay. >> All right. And then we're going to go right. All right. >> And you are good to go. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Enjoy the rest of your night. 137 to 104. [Music] [Music]