where did you take this photo at at a bathroom because a white wall you sent it to the person and that person information on September 19th 2023 a Verizon Wireless store reported multiple fraudulent transactions before the officer arrived a loss prevention team member confirmed $26,000 in fraudulent activity the officer responded to the store and began questioning the suspect I have I have someone from our l prvention team on home okay you want to talk to you uh let me figure out what's going on cuz the other guy Prime the primary officer so um did she try and open anything with you guys today no she she has we have $226,000 in confirmed fraud that she's opened up in the past do you know which agencies are working at yeah whole like I got her here ma' I have you in the phone with the police officer right now I'm going to pass it over this is their La did you Ste any of you from any other stores yes uh hello I got they can did she steal anything from any other stores yes I have confirmed fraud was there a police report completed on that that fraud we were getting completed today yet all right what city is that okay I've got her all over the State of Florida I've got her at pagora spre Hill IUS I've got her at theis Park goonville beacho all right ma'am um bear with me one second we're going to try and figure out if there's a crime that was committed right now um what she gave a named Catherine so I don't know if that's heard I I don't know what he's given to you I don't know ID he has what H can do you have the report from the Eastbay store I don't have it filed yet okay what happened at that store um on the 4th of August she obtained two devices she used the name surveillance footage and invoices confirmed the transactions the suspect initially denied involvement but later admitted to pass fraud cases an attempt was made to shift blame onto a cousin but the suspect hesitated to provide details a debit card linked to the suspect had a different name raising further suspicion the suspect stated an effort to change ways and claimed to be trying to conduct transactions legally so what' you come here today for Miss Catherine uh come I come to this area once a month to visit my my mom sorry you're to visit your mom okay and what were you coming here for like I said I have a TNT yeah I didn't hear the story so I'm just trying I have a TNT yeah I'm trying to switch over to Verizon okay [Music] you've never opened up another Verizon account anything like that before I had yeah told them I had Verizon before okay in this in your name yes can you someone to start recording this H can you someone to start recording this unfortunately we're in a public place he can record us I mean you're on camera already so no you guys under theable for him he's you're in a public place there's no expectation of privacy which phone are you try to again the 15 Pro Max the 15 Pro the 15 Pro wa so what's the deal with the probation I'm not going to lie you guys already know everything I usle what kind I I don't know I didn't hear what it was he said probation I didn't know anything phones phones yeah open up phones and other people's names long long [Music] be trying to do everything I literally have I can show you I have 18 I believe you have AT&T and everything suspensive so I'm trying to get was it suspended for AT&T expensive it's expensive oh yeah Horizon's just as expensive though a little cheaper is it yeah yeah could the guys think I'm do a scamming I'm not scamming right now there I'm not scaming I actually did something okay then what about 84 did you go to another Verizon store or no okay I bar can't remember what I ate thisday to be honest with you have you been to another Verizon store in the past month two months cannot recall right now I cannot recall I'm afraid of you guys I'm the nicest person in the world you guys make there not to be nervous about I'll take it I mean it's if it's if it happen that's this thing a big one yeah so $26,000 total so but we have at least 2,200 in Mar so we'll see I'm going not give you time to think what what are you going to tell me we talking at $26,000 prop I'm stop calling on the phone everyone I'm not calling nobody I'm Instagram actually with the phone done turn it up we done like I said at the beginning you're clearly can't go anywhere you're officially detained let me go run her D and see if right now working at $26,000 we ongoing course of conduct keep going and going and going I give you a chance to think about what you're going to say so um be interesting let me go run and see if it actually matches so basically what he she would come in the store she'd buy two iPhones the only she'd pay in store is tax okay but that's what these two phones are worth do you know what debit card she used however when confronted with surveillance images that showed tattoos matching those in fraudulent activities an inquiry was made about making a deal the officer explained that the investigation would continue regardless of an arrest fraud cases always proed to detectives who review and follow up on them the suspect was informed that any cooperation would be recorded and considered later but that no immediate deals could be made at the scene she used that right there member majority yeah what is that is that a name I don't even know yeah it's she's been yeah so shows up an invoice it's like probably fake card and all that kind of stuff but she basically would pay the taxes then go around and then sell the phone for 2,000 3,000 $2,000 cash and pocket that when she only paid the taxes but she basically logged into someone else's Horizon account why you crying I'm not crying why why' your people dip on you nobody dipped on me like you just I hate this situations I really I I just I know you're not the main one in this you're just the fall person just being honest and that sucks can I grab a cuple water yeah you can grab a cuple you're actually in here for a legitimate purpose and not a scam and you got in trouble for a previous scam I'm to going home toight I don't know still investigating you're just detained right now you understand how it looks from our perspective right Officer like I like talking to you better than the other one I'm real like I've been doing this a while I know doing this 20 years so I was going to turn from the beginning I have a pass and I've been in probation like I don't mind Turing my P because it is what it is that's what I did already but right now I'm doing something completely legit I'm not trying to scare nobody no I know I I believe you are actually here for a legitimate purpose and you are legitimately here for a legitimate reason just your past has a B on you and what sucks do you remember what happened at when you were in Largo last time at other space store no sure it's record anything have you ever used the name Lori hacket before did you use I don't remember officer so why can you explain to me why someone would describe you like to a te your exact outfit to a te no idea why they were call why I was calling him can describe you to a te which stocky shorter Hispanic woman speaks English very well usually wears ball or was wearing a ball cap um and provided a like consulate card to verify a name of Lor hackin maybe because the stuff that I had done in my past like I just told you like I have a pass yes I'm not going to deny that I do have a past I was going to tell you from the beginning I was in creation no it's okay I'm not trying to no no no like because you told me yes I have been a criminal I'm in the system but I try to be the most respectful to the love because I know how it goes you've been nothing but respectful for us I'm not trying to believe I'm not trying to lie to you nothing like that I do have it pass I do have done stupid [ __ ] sorry follow my language why would the store put out that type of B maybe because I have done something in the past because yeah like I said in my past I had done Stu why would there loss prevention tell me you did something multiple times in this area like granted you only did something once in a while ago can you explain that like why would someone be out to get you cuz that's how you're making it seem it's like you're the victim and it's like we're just out to get you and that's not the case no no no like like I said like I have a pass maybe I had done something in the P that I do not recall because I'm I'm trying to do everything with legit okay I don't want to go back to jail did you come up here in August what I was wearing what I was wearing so if I show you the surveillance video and it matches you to a tea and you provided this person's name like you understand my hands are very well tied like I'm giving you a chance to explain your sad story at this point but at the end of at the end of the day you guys want if you guys have a video of me you guys still going to take me in so not necessarily not necessarily sometimes there's more investigation to be done B no to you guys I know when I'm here and I seen two of you guys I already lost I already lost they two of us every no like when you from the officer you're already done you're already done if you have a test you're already done no not necessarily it's true true I believe look why are you GNA say that I give you an example zg the Bounty Hunter has a bad pass but is the nicest guy in the world and hunts down criminals and helps us so explain to me how we hold someone's past against them any information provided will be forwarded to the judge or attorney who will determine its impact the suspect was given time to decide whether to cooperate the officer assured that no force would be used the suspect then admitted that a cousin created fake IDE d s and provided a Mexico consulate card the suspect claimed reluctance to use it but stated pressure was applied that day due to financial struggles mention was made of an address for the cousin a notification was received that a detective was on the way like this right now I came to do something legit and they cut the cops on me cuz they had what some internal memo that you did something okay but I'm doing something where they're the victim yeah but I'm sing like this is what holding in the past I had done something in my past I came to do something legit I didn't likee to you guys for for one second no you've been honest with me the whole time told you the truth show you I do have a TNT I'm trying to switch I I believe you were here for a legitimate purpose is catching up to you that's why I'm telling you that's why you guys like ask me why do I feel like you guys getting to me because my pass because I had remember if you've been to a Verizon store in the past month sir to be honest with you I have really bad M that's okay officer almea would you remember if you've been to a cell phone store in the past month oh my god of course I would don't ask about the break from yesterday cuz I don't remember but I know if I went through you would at least know if you went to Publix Walmart within the past month a store absolutely how old are you 34 okay so you're the same age as me I'm old and I've been doing this job a long time now there's a lot of crap in my head I can still remember not more than mine I guarantee you de bable on there um I can still remember what I've done a month ago if I went to a Verizon store I can tell you I went to T-Mobile last month because my phone stopped working because it dropped the SIM card my SIM card went back so I can tell you I remember that and that's over a month ago so how can you not remember if you've been to a horizon store like help me help you like cuz you understand the more you deny the more you look just guilty as hell and I'm not not trying to like guilt you into a confession nothing like that I'm just saying look at it from a neutral party's perspective don't even look at it like I have a badge and a gun because at the end of the day I'm just here to figure out what someone else called police work is all highly reactive we weren't there during the incident I can just tell you that someone came in and used this name and for some reason they have a bolo matching your exact description very weird right I mean I probably wasn't a Verizon store but to be honest with you I do not remember the name the Lori the lgo one up on East B vure do you were do you remember you were at a Verizon store in past month do I remember where officer like I do not remember yes okay so do you remember do you remember getting a new phone like what do you do with what do you do with these phones when what did you do in the previous scam I old SC yeah what' you do in the previous one the one I got addressed for yeah it was uh getting phones or reselling them the same thing that we're here for now no honestly I'm trying to get a new one for myself and my girlfriend that's the same the reason we're here right now that's what that's what the accusation is like that you have trying to open I'm trying to open account for myself ibody else I'm just telling you what the accusation is here it's that you have opened accounts paid for just the tax and then resold them for $2 $3,000 making pure profit I wish I had type of yeah cuz you got an iPhone Pro 14 Ma and deep purple an iPhone Pro 14 Max and deep purple you paid 7% sales tax on someone else's account and then um and you use a chip card it looks like so does the name majority member does that sound familiar yes what's that that's my debit card that's your debit card do you have in your wallet thought you said both of them were in your name yes this is the an I use when I cannot use a a cap Capital One so can you tell me why it says Lori hacket and it has your last four of your card number on it can you explain that Catherine I'm here to help you help me help you you want me to tell you the truth yes I want you to tell me the truth the suspect acknowledged fraudulent activities continue due to financial need and confirmed possession of a US passport card offering to compare it with a fake one the suspect expressed frustration at being used as a scapegoat and insisted on not taking responsibility for others mention was made of targeting Suburban areas assuming lower vigilance an explanation of the fraud process followed this cousin asked me for the for the D that he was going to take something and let him use my D so it was your cousin that did this I don't know I got to I haven't seen the surveillance video so your cousin went in and use that so what is this just a like a Reload card yes sir I usually use that one when I can uh deposit money on my debit car okay on my personal on the Capital One so explain to me why so he used your card he came to the store no no something think take your time takey nice I'm very interested in the story while you're thinking of the story think about it for a second I'll be right back with you okay cuz I got to go talk to them now for a second I'm willing to speak whatever why you recording I I've always been recording I had to go out there and mute when I talk to Sergeant now we it is a scam going on I know how it works I know everything about the scam okay I'm not doing anything right now I'm not trying to go to joke I believe you were here for a legitimate purpose go ahead sorry my apologies I'm trying to do something legit and I'm going to get because I pass I'm going to speak about it [Music] speak about it because I don't want to go to I don't want to BU in my pration I don't want to go just my family like I said I think you're just the fall person in this you're you're the the pawn that they're like hey go do this and we're going to give you quick cash cuz it's are you working right now I do con construction like I'm not what are you just a are you a journeyman and anything like that or you just day labor helper yes so you ain't making a ton and you're out there I'm I'm living with my with I call them parents but that my uncle uncle and Aunt yeah they finished raising me so I'm Ling with them so I'm okay I'm I don't need to do nothing in are they in dport yes are they going to get involved in this I don't want I don't want to find out none of this [ __ ] why would they get involved I have no reason to tell them do you have a reason to tell them no okay I don't want to be another disappointment again when I'm trying to do everything legit cuz if I need to speak about something from the past I me I am I don't care because I'm not doing anything right now okay I know I like I said I legitimately believe you were here for a legitimate purpose but whatever you did last month C up to you and this person is trying to up I don't care who goes down so I'm not going to let nobody do you think somebody is like impersonating you or somebody's like dressing similar to you that's really easy I pretty I have an idea who can be who it was that came in that actually used your card and stuff when he speak to the detective I will speak about it more okay that's fine are you willing to go back to the station and talk with us I don't want to get arrested that's you are you in CU are you in cuffs right now no but you guys close enough to put me in cough and as soon that that you guys probably notifi my probation officer already your probation why would I have contacted your probation I've been here with you other than calling starge yeah but there's a really phone call that came make real quick and my probation officer nobody's called him yet let's see we just got the video you want to watch it let see should I call my girlfriend and let her know what's going on possibly who's that so do you know who this ISS are you sure who is it we look like a lot in know you guys look very similar yes that's this guy girlfriend this guy's girlfriend yeah do you know her name I know her nickname what's her nickname shorty shorty so let's try this again is this you I've been super nice to you are we going to make video I don't know I can tell you that's your tattoo and that's your tattoo I already said what I got to say okay you you guys hold me on I will give you every every single thing that you guys need okay just hang out with her no I got the suspect explained that another individual was responsible for the main production and lived in New York the fraud Network operated from there and an address might have been available a confession followed that an image from August 5th confirmed involvement the suspect apologized for previous lies explaining forgetfulness regarding that specific day the person providing stolen information operated from another country oh he can FaceTime yeah he can FaceTime hey Zach do you remember her tattoos or anything on her forearms yeah yeah pretty like pretty well like if I showed you you'd say yeah that's the same one it was like I it was like kind of tribal I want to say like it wasn't necessarily like a a person okay um did you see any other tattoos not that I can recall I mean it was about a month ago okay all right um yeah let me um I'm just going to put you on FaceTime really quick so this is the exact baa from that day this is probably better than what she's taking like screenshots of so you can see exact taking screenshots of the actual see the actual tattoo right there on her forearm and that matches and this is her from all the same date from the same date yeah you can see that's all and I showed them to her and she goes can we make a deal perfect there there you have it so at this point like uh taking C um identity theft and identity theft the theft varation okay and the U are we doing theft or we do a sche to Def fraud right now it's your this can we to the Frog when we get more ongoing course of conduct I have I'm going to flip the camera around I'm not going to let her see your face or anything um but I just want to see if you remember her and the tattoos and stuff like that okay put out your forearm lift it up okay 100% absolutely 100% same lady sorry absolutely yeah um and obviously we have our ID and everything at this point um all right cool thanks all right so no detectives coming so at this point it's your last opportunity to talk to me is there anything else you want to tell me listen tell it listen you've been through the system many times you know how it works it doesn't might detecting this right here or not let him know what it is because what happens today is not what was important it's what happened after today and by you helping them they may be able to help you later yep does that make sense help us you I'm I'm just saying the time all the time when I had try to help I had got got screw up well you can take the entire hit it's up to you I I honestly I'm going to be frank with you I really don't care but I would I don't want you taking the hit but if that's what you want then so be it you can take it I'm going going to prison you will I'm telling you right now you guys already call operation officer I already talk to him so what it is is that you told me there was nobody who was going to call him yet I didn't know well I've been outside taking calls and the call this is what happen outside for for this is serious thing this is not a joke we don't we're not playing I'm not lying to you I didn't I didn't tell you I wasn't going to call anybody and I was going to call you that never happened you ask me totally attest I'm tell you the re answer they're not coming I'm also telling you they're not coming no no what what I'm also telling you they're going to continue investigating and my you telling is whatever it is that you need to say you can say it right now it's been recorded that's called cooperation it goes down it goes way after listen I'm going to cerate yes I am going to Cate but I'm not going to go home tonight right what's important is know what happens today what happens Road you're not going up listen you have a couple felon charges right now plus a v what matter is not right now today is what happens down the road does that make sense yeah it makes sense like I'm ready to so listen I'm going to put it to you a different way anytime I have anybody giving me Intel okay giving me information on something else that's way bigger than what we're got going on right now okay it's not going to change the fact that they're going to go to jail they're still going to go to jail but a detective or someone might meet up with them later at so I can't say the jail cuz I can't say what they're going to do and what they're not going to do but they never come to the scene and have a conversation because they cannot make deals with you to get you not to go to jail tonight there's no way our detectives don't have that okay so they have to still know what information you have what you're willing to give going forward because they have to bring that to the judge or bring that to the attorney or bring that to whoever they got to take it to because they're the ones who say okay well she's giving us all of this so we can flea this down whatever the case may be our detectives don't have that ability never have had that we're not going to force you to do anything either way at all really don't I'm just saying you you guys have time because this is going to be long conversation of course we have have plenty of time by the hour I'm here till 11: p.m. I want you to understand we for but you initiated the conversation you ask me this and I try to get it not come yeah so we're telling you what's going to happen and we could probably we wanted to do sport something else in the future we can't do any of that a dialer system was used to mimic Verizon calls tricking people into revealing pins this data was then sold the suspect unable to afford purchases received a small cut ranging from $100 to $400 per transaction phones were obtained and handed to another individual who resold them primarily in Orlando the only thing we can do is I record it and then they'll deal with that later huh all of our all of our cases such as this our fraud cases all of these cases immediately go to the detectives irregardless if an arrest is made they all go to the detectives they read up on it they follow up on it they do all of that just because we take a report doesn't mean that it just stays with us so all we have is time if you want to help yourself go ahead and do it because either it doesn't we we not here to hurt you or to do anything to you but we're not going to work for it but you need to understand it's not like what you see like oh I can bring the attorney here they'll get the state attorney here we can make a deal it doesn't work like that I to you so whatever you want want to do Miranda one yeah okay so let's the cousin yeah he's the one who makes the fake ID so he makes the consulate card yes so is it a Mexico consulate card I have one in my pocket because he gave it to me and I didn't want to do that he was pushing it to me to do it today and I didn't want to you want see it okay I didn't want to check your watch you might want to see what that person has to say oh okay I didn't want to do it that's why I didn't give that person information today I just saw it I just saw it you got your wish a detective's coming oh that's why I said you might want to check your watch I saw who was texting them and I know see they're coming we talk you see I wasn't lying to you I told you we were actively trying like I'm like literally today he pushed me to do it because he knows I need the money was that was in the car okay I got the address of his house yeah I got the information of the people who sell him the information I want to see this so it's a US passport card I have so I have mine in the car do I do have my passport card in the car you can I I instantly see the difference you can tell you sit what there I'll get mine you can see it well to continue on your story they're on their way but I can fill them in once you get here and I'm going to be man to my word I will let you make a call your girlfriend is that who you were texting yes okay I will I promise you I will let you call your girlfriend before we're done with all this Shenanigans if that's the route we go I will let you call if you guys want to call these people I have no problem helping you guys out don't have wish I feel bad for you cuz you're like the fall person in this and it sucks this is this time I'm not taking No for no one no why why should you like you I literally he like pushing him I was like I'm not feel like doing this [ __ ] no more like I'm trying to get out of it why does he come all the way over here no no or is it all in your head all in my head so let me before we get too crazy that August fifth obviously the picture is you right yes okay continue so I I'm just making sure I ain't going crazy so yeah know I'm sorry for lying to you it's okay things happen listen I've been nothing but Qui and nice to you to be honest I I couldn't remember that's why I asked you what day it was yeah because I was trying to put together because I didn't honestly I didn't remember that day I didn't so continue uh and the person who sells all the information he's out of the country he's in Dr okay so don't let me don't ask me how he gets information I know he has something called a dialer uh so I'm pretty sure what they do it just find information online for people with this dier I guess they make like the number number from Verizon call people and get the PIN numbers and all that stuff make sure the information with the phone online uhhuh matches yeah and they just sell it so do do you pay money for this or does that other guy pay money for that information or is it he don't want pay the money because I'm broke I can't how much cut do you get out of all this $400 00200 we just coming in and getting the phones and then you give him the phones yeah what happens to the phones the suppliers of stolen identities were based outside the country and used software to extract personal information this software known as a dialer mimicked official Verizon calls it collected customer details and account pins which were later sold for fraudulent use the suspect clarified that another person had paid for this stolen data the suspect had no financial means to invest but played a role in obtaining devices payments received ranged from $100 to $400 per phone he resells them he resells them does he sell them here or just does he like wipe them or whatever no he has a couple buyers in in Orlando in Orlando okay do you actually live in Orlando in D I just I literally move because I'm trying to get my life together trying to get away from the sh again yeah and it just keeps keeps finding you yeah so this the same thing that happened with your probation before or why you're on probation like the similar the same scam yeah okay they he push me to come inside and I didn't even want to do it that's why I didn't give the information on that first I actually get mine because in reality I do need to switch for 18t to well to any other carrier the cheaper so I didn't want to do it from the from the get just you just take advantage of people like me that we have a record nothing we can make decent money out there from so this time like I'm willing to do whatever you guys need me to do to for me to go back to the right path it's a whole chain this person I met through the actual actually does the the IDS um that actually we can say the warehouse is in New York he uh he used to ship me the the face and stuff like that so he tell me about this guy this lives over here in um Orlando canot remember the name right now the town close to oo oo oo around there okay uh he has machine in his house I never had SE it but he has so in his house I had the address in his house where he print them and one day he tell me hey can we go have and have whatever the case might be but then I buy the info I get everything and you just go inside the store and do your do your thing okay so let's back up you go to this house in AO yeah I mean uh well I know where he Liv but before we us me just R the cas CH whatever but how does he have he has your photo you give him the your all your personal information where do you take that photo at what do you mean on the deal on that oh that's in in the bathroom in the bathroom yeah in the bathroom where it gu a wall any wall white uh wall well okay so for example let's take this one where did you take this photo at at a bathroom and there a white wall you send it to the person and that person you send the information and just they they do the thing and they just send the the the car to pH whatever you want to call it okay so where did you so then why why did you guys pick this store cuz the sub Suburban the small towns small like not the big cities where we think none of this going to happen right right now I mean what's your first name Catherine Catherine Catherine it's it's like savior ass time kind of because you're you're on probation and you just committed another family right I mean this is kind of I can't like I told them I'm sorry to right now I'm I'm willing to to do anything when you guys tell me to do like whatever you guys need me to do I'm going to do it honestly whatever you guys need me to do I'm going to be there well right now it's just about information the suspect acknowledged previous lies and apologized the suspect explained that memory gaps made it difficult to recall specific details the suspect explained that payments varied per transaction when asked about financial gains payments ranged from $100 to $400 depending on the type of device obtained um how many times have you done this five okay with the same guy every time no different people different people and how do you get in touch with all these different people the guy in New York no there's another one I'm sorry I used to work for Target mobile the mile Department the man guy approached to me which I was always what he was doing we just change numberers start talking I put the job and I started doing this this stuff and from there on you just meet one person then you meet another person that does this that does that it's I get I get um how do you say that um I get offered to do a lot of different things like what else back frog um there a lot of things how there a lot of scams out there that get over and I'm like nope I don't want to get more in trouble that water but I already have car fraud do you just stick to mostly the cell phones or do you do other ones no I just do cell phones okay because I rather not getting more something bigger than what already is what makes me not going to stop this like there that's the whole point you guys want to stop this right that's for you to come to that conclusion right I think you're finally realizing that it's going to go on with or without no regardless with me in jail or not in jail it's going to go it's going to keep going and you think I'm the only person who does this no no and so like that's that's the whole point let I already split all the beans all the beans I already Stu if you guys want to keep me keep me keep helping you just let me go like I swear to you I'm not going to disappear you're on probation no even if I wanted to I couldn't make anything El you guys can make anything possible if you guys actually wanted you guys can make anything you guys you have too much Faith than us I'll be honest you have too much fath stand up for me okay put your hand on your back your information I'm just going to take off your watch okay help but you just can't be like I got caught so let me just give everyone up and I'm going to give walk away for you no it's not it's not take off your watch for me and I never had done this before officer quick has already got you on another there's another store here in Eastbay drive that you did in August in in our city make it like your Brae like your brain like your brain the suspect faced multiple felony charges including identity theft and fraudulent schemes if you enjoyed this video be sure to hit the like button share your thoughts in the comments section and don't forget to subscribe to our channel to stay updated on our future videos click on the notification Bell icon after after subscribing thank you for watching and see you in the next video