16854 168 on Mexico 779 X-ray Adam Sam red Infinity Northern and Quantum Hey. I'm so sorry. I didn't see you. I I know that's stupid. I was watching the car who's turning. I You must have just been in a blind spot for me. I am so sorry. >> have the registration and insurance? Just the registration. You're lucky I almost hit you there. I know. I mean I'm like shaking. I I don't have my insurance card with me but I'll pull it up on my phone. Okay. Let's uh Do you want to go somewhere else? >> Yeah, let's go ahead and pull off on the street so we can get off this road, okay? Okay, that sounds good. All right, I'll meet you over there. 16827 68 on Got 556 Katherine Alex Wallace mean valid and revoked 122 George mean negative to me. 10-4 Are you going to 81 or what? 176 is coming over here. Huh? Revoked she almost she pulled out of a street and I would have T-boned her had I not been paying attention. Like I skidded on the road to not hit her. My heart I I haven't moved from my car right now cuz my heart's still pounding. Huh? What? Yeah, I was my heart's still going cuz I thought I was going to T-bone her. Uh I think he's just at the station. I actually have no idea. Oh, he's far. Yeah. Well, you want to hang out with me? I'm going to pull her out of the car now. Do you have your insurance? Um the Audi's the last one. Oh. Oh, it went away. It went away? Yeah. Oh, no. Come back. Um just a second. I don't know >> Maybe it's in Safari or Google. I don't know who's shaking more me more or me or you. I just I just scared me. I was scared, too. I mean it really scared me. Um Just a second. Just a second. Reviewing your account. Okay, current period. And there's the card. Okay. So, what's going on with your license, Katherine? What do you mean? When uh when did you get a DWI last? I got one on uh the 2nd. The 2nd of November. November? Okay. Yeah. You're not supposed to be driving. They revoked your driver's license. Oh, well they hadn't revoked it. So, I mean I have an interlock on my car. They've completely revoked it. >> Oh, I didn't know that. I didn't know that. I have an interlock on the car. Yeah. I mean I immediately went and put that down there. Okay. Well, did you have the MVD hearing? No. Did you not have Did you not >> just called my lawyer. I just got out of rehab yesterday, you guys. I just blew in last night. Okay. Well, I'm going to have to have you step out of the car for me, okay? Cuz unfortunately uh they've revoked your driver's license so you cannot be driving. Even with an interlock? You have to have an interlock ignition license. It has to say specifically in >> Oh, I was going to go down and get one. I just hadn't gotten to it yet. I got the interlock. Okay. I need you to place your hands behind your back for me. Am I being arrested? >> Yes, you are. Can I get my stuff? >> Hold on. Hold on. Just we'll get your stuff for you, okay? Don't don't reach in there. Don't reach in there. Put that down, please. Put your hands behind your back for me, okay? Oh, wow. Turn off your phone. I have nothing in my pockets and I have no cell phones. Do you have anything in your pockets at all? Yeah, don't reach. Let the officer do it. I I don't think there's anything in my Don't reach in your pockets. I don't think there's anything in my pockets. >> I still don't need you to reach, okay? Yes, sir. Okay, there's nothing What is Is that just tissue? I think it's just tissue. >> That's what it feels like. I don't see anything else. Okay, what do you need out of the car? Um I'd like my phone, my um wallet to go in my purse and my purse and two elf bars if you wouldn't mind throwing them in my purse. >> They'll throw those away at the jail, so those are best to stay in the car. >> Well, can we throw them in the glove compartment? >> Yes, we can throw those away. >> Are we just going to leave the car here? No. So, we have we have two options. Do you have someone that can come and pick up the car? Uh yes, I do. >> How far out are they? Um I don't think they're that far. From where? From From where we're at. I mean, my house is in Rio Rancho and my sister lives right there in Corrales. So, we >> Give us some phone numbers and we can try to get the someone to come pick up the car, but if we can't get >> Can we look at my phone? Yes. I'll text We got your person here. Okay, just hit phone and then go to the star. Yeah, Dad is I know his number. It's Uh do you want to call from your phone or do you Let's Let's call Karen. Do you want to call from your phone or do >> Yes. I'm going to jail. Am I getting stayed up for very long? Until you see a judge. You should see one tomorrow. Okay, overnight? Quite possibly. Quite possibly. It depends. Hey, hey there, Karen. Listen, um I'm just leaving an AA meeting and I inadvertently pulled out in front of of a policeman and my license is revoked. I didn't know that. I do have to have an interlock, but they're taking me to jail. 10-4 out at 4115. What road are we on? Quantum. We're on Quantum, which is Yeah, take Northern 168, do you copy? 10-4 10-41 10-15. And I They say I have to They say I have to They say I have to stay in jail till I see a a judge, so I don't know if that'll be today or tomorrow. Okay. Yeah, me too. I didn't know that my license wasn't any good and you know, I just got back last I have to have an interlock license and I don't have that. Oh, okay. How do you we get the car keys? They'll stay here with the car. And I'll stay with you. They'll They'll stay here with the car and he'll stay with the car. Can you come right away? How long? Yeah, about how long till you guys can be here? I mean, I could leave right now. Okay, if you don't mind, you can at least come and get the keys to the car and then Dad can meet you over here. You can get the keys for your purse now. Okay, I'll do that. I'll come straight over here. Okay, thank you, Karen. I appreciate it. All right. >> Yeah, okay. All right, bye. Um And we'll get We'll put your purse Is there anything in the purse that we need to know about? Any Any Do you want to take it with you or would you rather it stay with your sister? Um I'd like to take my phone with me just because that way I can call when I get out. >> You can take your phone. Put it in your jacket pocket. Um can I take my purse with me? You can, but it's if more You run more of a risk of having something lost at the jail. >> No, I don't need it. And then if you have cash >> if there's Yeah, I have cash in there too. >> cash, they're going They're going to keep it and they'll cut you a check when when you get released. >> Go ahead and throw it in in my purse though, would you so that The wallet and the and the elf bars? >> Yeah, just throw them in the purse. >> Okay. Thank you. I appreciate that. Sorry, guys. No, you're fine. So, unfortunately with >> like I'm Unfortunately with your license, I don't have much of a choice because it's uh there is I didn't know it was revoked It wasn't revoked when I had the license and it wasn't revoked when I I left the Well, they're in the car. They're attached to my purse. It's a push button. Oh, she can't start the car cuz it's got an interlock. She can breathe into it though, right? She doesn't know how to do that. Um We'll wait for her here so you can explain, okay? Okay. Or I could do it for her. But I mean, it's going to beep again. She's not going to She No one knows how to do that with me. Can we just wait? Yeah, we'll wait. I'll work on the paperwork here since you're being cooperative. Unfortunately, you wouldn't have been arrested if you hadn't pulled out. >> but I didn't I didn't I didn't see you. I didn't even see you. >> I was on the left I was No, I was on the left side. >> Oh, I didn't And I saw him start to stop. Uh-huh. And then the next thing I saw was you in the intersection. >> see I mean, he his car blocked your car. I did not even see it. And I mean, honestly, had I not been paying attention, I would have T-boned you cuz I saw you start to go and then I don't know if you heard my tires, but I did. I heard him go "Eeh!" Yeah, cuz I I thought I was going to hit you and I It is a good thing that I was able to stop because the there is a car coming the other way on the inside lane. >> the guy on the So, that guy That guy, that's why I slowed down and one of us would have hit you, so at least none of us got hurt. I mean, unfortunately, you have to go to jail, but uh usually what I tell people in this situation, obviously, you have a lawyer and everything, but uh if you can get your license fixed before court, which should be pretty easy and your lawyer will tell you all of that. That's usually the remedy for all of this, okay? Okay, well, I can call I can't call her now. I have to call her when I get out. Uh your attorney? Yeah. Yeah, the you can call her when you get out. Um So, we'll wait >> Her number's in my phone. Yeah, so um I'll We'll wait here. I'll start working on the paperwork and we'll wait here for Is your sister coming? Yes. Okay, we'll wait here for your sister so we can make sure the car just gets to go and everything like that, okay? Okay. Okay. >> Thank you. No problem. That was very very close. I almost T-boned her cuz she pulled out from a stop I was looking playing cuz it's And I laid on my brakes. Jeez. That was very close to a 62. My heart My heart was going. I think we were both shaking at the side of the traffic stop sign cuz It was very close. Like, I'm telling you, I all the I was Just the next street up there, there was a stop sign and the guy was turning in, but I don't think she saw me in the left lane, so she just went out. All of a sudden, I just see a bright red car in front of me. I'm just going straight at it. Like, had I looked had I been looking at my computer, reading a call or something, it would have been cuz she stopped, too. She pulled out and then she just stopped because there was a car coming this way and so she couldn't make the turn anymore. So, had I been looking at my computer at a call at anything else, it would have been straight impact into her car. Or even if I'd been speeding, it would have been straight impact. That's how scared I was. I was terrified I'm still a little bit shaky. Let me throw this back in your car for you and then the only thing you'll have your phone and your ID with you at jail, okay? That thing is really hard to get started. 10-4. Uh Adam 15025 >> What specifically does she have to do? Uh-huh. Okay. Well, hopefully you're able to explain that to her and Yes. Well, I'm just glad neither of us got hurt cuz that was very Oh God, me too. I am so sorry. No, I I'm just glad that I was paying attention cuz that would have been bad for definitely for you. But I was shaking, too. I'm I'm not lying when I'm telling you I was shaking. I was I that I was scared. I thought for sure And then when I saw the other car, I was hoping that you weren't going to pull out from them because at at a certain point, I knew I was going to be able to stop and I was hoping that you were you weren't going to pull out in front of the >> I saw him. The two good things I'm glad is that I wasn't looking at my computer and that I wasn't speeding because had I been doing either of those things, it would have we would have crashed into each other. And that's the that's the two good things that I'm happy happy did not happen cuz I was I was shaking there. I was like, "Oh my goodness." When I first saw the car, I was like, "Oh, there's no way I can stop." And then when I started to stop, I was like, "Okay, we're okay." So, you just got back last night? Yeah, I got in I was terrible traveling Mhm. Is your address still 345? I didn't know they had an AA facility right there, uh Okay. Out to lunch? Was that your first one there? How was it? Okay. And you were out in uh California for rehab? How did that go? That's good. Like I said, I don't I don't want this to uh mess you up. Um Just just honestly it's just a minor bump in the road. Mhm. For your uh for your last DWI, did you have the MVD hearing or you didn't have it? Okay. Did you just choose not to have one or Okay. Yeah. Who's the attorney that you have? Oh, okay. Yes, I I know Maria. Yeah, I'll go uh I'll give her a call. That way we can start start getting this thing cleared up for you so it's not hanging over your head. Mhm. How long was the the rehab? Uh-huh. Okay, that's good. Has it been hard? Uh-huh. Okay. Mhm. Yes. Now, I understand. But I'm glad to hear that everything's been been going good, you know, I know in speaking to people I know the first the first couple months are always the hardest. No, I mean that's that's honestly a good way to to look about look at it. I I I mean there's two ways to look at it. I mean in your situation, yeah, it's pretty bad, but I the silver lining for both of it is we didn't get in a crash, nobody got hurt, and I I think that's the only good thing. Well, in the scheme of things, I mean at least uh at least neither of us got hurt. About 15 minutes ish. Who do you live with at home? Okay. Is he in good health condition right now? Mhm. Does he require care 24/7 or Okay. Mhm. It's kind of the circle of life, huh? Your parents raise you, and then at certain point the it changes to where you take care of them. And it's Mhm. And that's always sad when we you know, we have to go to families where their uh the kids don't seem to be taking care of their parents. How was the weather in uh California while you were there? >> Was it better than this weather that you came back to though? Uh, no. No. Okay. That's my Okay. Hello. Sorry, I went to the station first. I didn't know where I was supposed to go. No, you're fine. She wants you to have her purse and wallet, which is all there. The key should be inside of the How do I start a car with an interlock? I have to So, I'm going to let you talk to her, but you're just going to have to breathe into it. Okay. The only thing you have to be conscious when driving it is there's going to be a sound while you're driving, and you'll have to do it while you're driving. Okay. Otherwise, It'll completely shut shut off. So, I'm going to have you come back here cuz I don't know how to do it Yeah, I'll have you come I'm going to have you come back here and talk to her. That way she can explain it to you, and then we'll let you test it out. >> my dad to help me. We put the keys on the top in the first two, so that way if we close the door it won't lock. Oh, okay. Is what is it what what's what happened? Um, so I was traveling badly, Uh-huh. and I guess she was uh she was at a street trying to come this way to turn on Northern, Uh-huh. and she just pulled out, and I almost T-boned her. Okay. So, I ended up stopping her, and her license is revoked because of the last speeding ticket she got. So, she's not supposed to be driving at all at all. And so, uh that's she's arrested for the revoked license. Oh, man. So, yeah, I was very lucky that she didn't get hit by me or somebody else. Yeah, she just got back in town. Yes, I've I've been talking with her. She seems to she's uh she's got back in So, she seems to be doing really good with everything. So, uh yeah. Can this stay here for just a few minutes cuz I got to figure out how to get somebody to I could pull it somewhere. If you want to pull it in and park it somewhere, we are completely good with that. So, I'll let you come She's on this side. If you want to come back, I'll roll down the window down so you can talk to her. Yeah, she's in here. And that was close. I'm still shaking. I really I can't tell you how close I was. You really can't. That is getting noise in the car. All of a sudden, all I saw was a red car. She had her window down. I could see her face. I'm just like full on like in the I've been wanting to ask you what happened. I was just cruising along and someone lady pulled out, I guess. You're over there behind uh And then I saw the traffic, and I was like, "Oh, yeah, that's a fleet." You're just cruising along, dude. There isn't any damage? Just a little tiny scrape on the back uh passenger side. Well, I almost was in a bad fleet just now, and my heart's still pounding. What happened? Huh? I almost was just in a bad fleet now, and I'm so I don't want to do any more driving today. This is ridiculous. I'm mentally checked out. That's funny. And then my radio wasn't working, so we were stopped, and I'm trying to radio, and of course my radio doesn't work. Again, so I had to turn it on and off. It would have been bad though because I'd been speeding or looking at my computer, I would have crashed. That's that's the only that was the only thing. I would have If I would have been doing >> cruising and taking your time and Yeah, I don't know. I was just driving, and I was like, "Yeah, there's things going on." And I haven't not looking for anything. I don't even know what I was doing back on Northern again, but I just Well, I just got to got up my energy drinks, and so I was cruising back to the one. And so, I just was at Northern, and Do you mind if I I just Yeah, no. Yeah, we'll wait for you. So, I'm telling you the only thing I saw was her looking at me, and her like her mouth open like Yeah, no, we'll We'll we'll wait here for a little bit. I'm going to give her your license that way you don't lose it, okay? Let me give you her license, too, just to put inside of her purse for her. I don't know. I'll probably start this. And that should tell you at some point to blow into it. >> Oh god, I don't know how to do this. Let me see it real quick. >> I need glasses. It says blow. Maybe I should grab some. Okay, so yeah, it says blow. So what you're going to want to do is take like a deep breath and don't try to like over blow it just very steady. Okay. Should I grab my glasses do you think so I can see what it's saying or Yeah, if you want to. Let me I'm so sorry. No, you're fine. >> Probably will do something now like it won't work. It'll probably shut off. Oh. Well, I'm definitely not working today cuz it's probably not. That could have been bad. Not expecting that. There's been a The light turned red. I don't know. I'm not good with machines. I get it. I'll get this thing to go. Yeah, just don't try to like over blow into it. It's just it just needs to be steady and just try to take like a a breath a deep breath before it. >> I need to turn my music off. Um Okay. It says ready for test. Please blow. Okay. There. Yeah, you're good. There's a click. I don't know if you were able to hear it. >> she said when it clicks suck back in is what she said. >> Oh. Now it says Let me see. Oh, suck after I forget now. Yeah, it says suck after test. So it says we we're probably going to make you redo it again. Um what do you mean? Uh please wait. Okay, ready for test. >> Okay, yeah, so you'll you'll have to do what you told me. >> This is embarrassing. Yeah, and then I guess you have to suck back in. Good sucking. It says please wait. No, I didn't take it. Here, wait a second. I'm just going to pull her out so she can help you. >> It says test aborted. I don't Yeah, just wait a second. I'll just pull her out. No, no, you're fine. Could I possibly get out and guide you? >> Yes, that's what we're doing. That's what we we decided the easiest thing would be to have you come. Walk towards me so we can close the store. Yes, sir. And then let's go over here. >> want me in front of you? No, you're fine. I don't think you're going to run or fight us so I'm not too worried anymore. Did you put your foot on the brake, Karen? Yeah. And you press the button. Okay. Put the foot on the brake. Okay, now it's ready for you to blow. Lightly, lightly, lightly, lightly, lightly, lightly. Okay, blow it. Did you hear it click? No. The first okay cuz you right as soon as you hear the click you got to suck back. You can't keep blowing forward. Okay, now it's ready for you to blow again. Don't blow so hard. Now. Oops, got to try it again. This is tight. That's okay. Press okay. Press okay. Okay, now. Drop the foot. No. Blow. That's good. Let's see. Oh, no. This you got it but you got to suck back quicker when you do that um quick and hard. Press okay. Quick and hard as soon as it makes that click. I know. I did it took me forever to learn this. Okay. Okay. Now. You got it. You got it. So now that light will turn Oh, no, it went to red. You got to do it again. Sorry. Press okay. Does she have to keep her foot on the brake? No. No. Wait, wait, come on. It starts beeping now. You don't have to suck back long. >> There, you got it. You passed. You passed. You passed. You passed. I don't That's Okay. It's going to do it again in 5 minutes. Okay. You'll hear a beep. It's done beeping right now. It says you're good. It says drive safely. Close my glasses. 5 minutes or 5 minutes and then you got to do the same thing again, Karen. So quickly get over to Bright Honda or good you go to the parking lot. Okay. >> Yeah. Yeah, put your foot on the brake and go. Um well, I I need to >> Start the car. Start the car. Start the car. Press the button. Right here? Yeah. Okay, that Yeah, and now you're set to go. >> turn into this parking lot? Yeah, I'm just going to park my car over there and um You're going to I'm going to take this car to Bright Honda which is right across the street. Okay. That's Can I park in there? Sorry about that. You guys Yeah, thank you you guys for already I'm sorry. Sorry. I love you. Okay. Tell dad I'm sorry. I Okay. Yeah. Thank you, Karen. Thank you, men officers. Thank you. Oh, no problem. It's hard to do that thing. I didn't realize how hard it was. >> I know. That's why they Oh my god. She's not going to be able to start it but she's got a lot of air. We'll make sure that she gets going and then we'll be on our way, okay? >> Okay. You want to help me seatbelt her in? I'll pass it to your side. All right, we're going to throw this seatbelt on for safety. Okay. It'll help us. I'll slide it over to him. And you still have your cell phone. I gave her your ID. She put it in your purse. I saw it so >> I'm good. I I said you could do it. >> Okay. All right, thank you guys. I'll make sure she gets driving. I feel like you did it over there. I don't know. It's not that hard you know, right there. I just feel like Yeah, you just have to remember in 5 minutes it's going to go off again so it's probably like 2 minutes now. >> Will it make a noise? Yeah, and then you'll have to do the same thing but if you don't get it on the first try then you're going to stall out in the middle. So it'll stop driving completely. So just really focus and Okay. How far is it from here? Uh it's just right by um Sunrise Veterinary Clinic and um just Well, I guess it's this way cuz is this Is this Yeah, this is the house. Just right there across the street. Trying to picture it. >> On the frontage road? Yeah. Oh, okay. So you you jump on Northern go straight. Jump onto the frontage road and you should be good. Okay. Oh my god, I hope it doesn't I guess you want to wait and see if you can get it again at this point. >> so. I'm so sorry. No, you're fine. You might want to follow just in case it stalls out. We'll wait 5 minutes and see if cuz you can probably get there in under 5 minutes, right? >> I think so. We'll wait for it to prompt you for the second round and They're going to wait since it's probably It's 5 minutes, right? They're going to wait since it's about to go off again, right? Cuz it's about It takes 5 minutes. Yeah, so they're going to wait that way she doesn't like get stuck in traffic or something and then Okay. Okay, let me tell you that. It won't shut off but she won't be able to drive it. No, it won't shut off on her. It's already been started. Uh-huh. So it's not going to shut off on her if she keeps trying it and but you know, it's probably better just to wait a minute and then it will come on. >> Yeah. Yeah, no, that's I'm going 103 and I will be out. I'm 103 270 PD. I'm 1070. 10 20 PD. >> Um, probably not. Um I don't. The longest you'll stay is probably just a night. But I mean that's the longest. I know they'll uh they send off an email to whoever does the thing and then they decide if you have to see a judge or if they're just going to let you go. Uh that doesn't have like an impact for this. They'll just uh they'll see if you meet the criteria. And so I mean at worst case you'll have to wait till the morning. But then in the morning you'll be released. So uh that's the only good thing cuz that'd have been like Friday or Saturday then you'd be staying like 2 days. Yes. So well the unfortunately they right now with everything the interlock doesn't matter because what MVD decided is that they've completely revoked your opportunity to drive. Well just for right now so you would have to go to MVD and see what you need to get the interlock license. But right now MVD has basically said that you cannot drive and the way it shows up on our license or on our system is to arrest you if you're found driving. Yeah. Yeah so it's uh you kind of did this well you I I see what you did but you kind of did the steps backwards because you need the even if you get the interlock without the interlock license the interlock does nothing for you as far as the way the law and MVD works. But I see what you did. What you did actually makes a lot of sense. Yeah so So if you didn't have the MVD hearing they automatically revoked it right away. Rear Rancho one female? Yeah so whenever you don't request the MVD hearing then it automatically gets revoked. So that's kind of weird that she gave you that advice cuz it should have just been if you if uh if you weren't going to have the MVD hearing then you should have just gone to MVD right away and just got the revoked Yeah you have to send a letter to them within 10 days. Okay. Yeah honestly but though it's I mean the only thing is it's an easy quick fix and this will fix everything for this case. And usually people that are you know nice to me and I don't I'm not here to ruin anybody's life and in reality I mean you're already three-fourths of the way there you have the you have the interlock all you got to do is uh is go get the license and then you'll be good to drive and then you don't have the stress of us anymore. Well hopefully this wasn't a bad contact. I mean it I know I I know it's not there's nothing good to say about going to jail but at least we didn't tow your car and Let's go over to that door over there. Yeah this one right here. Just stand right here. He'll probably get a hold of Maria before I do, but just let her know to expect a phone call from me. Okay. And if you can just go to MVD and take care of it and >> I will and maybe I'll get >> Yeah, just whenever you get all the stuff, just send it to her and she'll send it to me. Okay. And then we'll be we'll be done with it at that point. That's basically since you've been nothing but cooperative and I'm not here to ruin your life or try to throw you in jail. I'd rather help you if I don't want this to be the bump in your road and Yeah, well, it can't be. Yeah. And that's the end of the day, the only thing that, you know, I truly care about is that, you know, everything working out for you and this is not Yeah. I'm sorry I didn't No, you're I actually I mean, I look, I I saw her turning. I waited for her to slow down. She was starting to turn in. I just did not see you. Her car just blocked you. No, like I said, I I don't know who was shaking more, me or you, cuz I was shaking, too. I My heart was going through my chest cuz I was Oh my god. I was like, oh, no, here comes a crash. But no, we'll get this we'll get this taken care of and your license should be fixed and then you'll be able to drive freely and not have to worry about getting pulled over and at least it happened now instead of, hopefully, a day where you were actually busy or something and you really didn't know it and that really messed you up. Well, I got to the inner lock place and I got to my first AA meeting here, but I got back just like I told myself I was going to do. So. No, I I hope I hope everything works out for you and I hope you can keep doing it and I hope so, too. Believe me, I know it's hard cuz I talk to a lot of people in this job and I know I know the struggles people go through and I know it's hard. And the one thing I did learn, somebody did tell me, is that they they know if people are going to pass is I think it's the last step. They say if there's if you become a sponsor, they know that you're going to succeed. Well, I was a sponsor. As I told you, I had a little over 20 years. >> Yeah. But um but you know, I got away from the program and that got me lost to crash here in Vegas. So, what's happening and I don't know how true that is, but that's what someone told me is that they know that when someone's going to succeed is only when they make it to the last step. And is the last step when you become a sponsor? Um the last step is when you start Yeah, when Okay. you become a sponsor, you start giving back. Okay, so that's what they told me is that cuz they were I ran into someone that does it and they they were asking me when I thought Yeah. And so I was completely wrong and they said they know that someone will succeed only on the last step when they start giving back. And I was like, that's very interesting. I never realized that. And they were explaining to me and I was like, that makes a lot of sense. Kept me clean for over 10 years, so. I'm clean not using alcohol. I never get into the drugs, but it's the same thing. >> No, I understand what you're saying. And I intend fully intend to be right back there, but I've got to got to start at the beginning again. Yeah. No, and like I mean, I talked to a lot of people. I've seen every walk of life, whether it's drugs, alcohol, cigarettes. I know. And I I always tell people, especially it's mostly with drugs, but I've seen people that I never thought would make it and then one day I run into them and they've gotten off drugs and they're a whole new person and it's hard to recognize them and it's it's like, wow, I never thought I'd see this person alive, to be honest. I've seen a lot of living dead people too. >> Yeah. Hello. Hi. I know that one of her I think it's this pocket here. She has her cell phone in her