in today's episode you will see an unhinged man who tried to kill his neighbor with his bare hands just because he wanted to outlive him look I hate the guy I want him to die when I go guess who's going to go with me there's also a loud racist who terrorizes the entire neighborhood I might be yelling racial slurs I can do whatever I want on my property and a young couple whose arguments ended in the worst way possible but first of all you will meet James AKA Frog who one day unexpectedly started shooting at his neighbors injuring a woman and killing a man the mentioned couple was walking by his house when he suddenly opened fire on them they then ran straight to their house while James calmly waited for the police on his porch walk towards me walk towards me walk and keep your hands up down underneath put your hands behind your back what hands behind your back let's go come on sorry I to do police department can you step out please we've been shot okay one shot in the back one shot in the another unit with me in 906 so we can sorry you shot huh you shot yeah I shot no are you shot are you hurt sir oh no no oh my God hold on hold on brother hold on who's the back guy huh you the bad guy TI him down down okay go ahead can I have you stand right here go ahead and separate your feet sir go ahead and separate your feet sir separate your feet you have any knife on no no I don't have I had a gun I used it but I did going to do no more it people me long enough I don't know I don't know what happened but both the female and the male have uh multiple gunshots they said it was this guy this guy came out we detained him we don't know where happened so that's why I'm telling these guys we need to scan in check dozens of police officers have responded to the scene and they are now going through the neighborhood looking for witnesses to start shedding light on the details of this unfortunate incident Shooter's neighbor is the first to provide information about the relationship between the victims and James she says that the victims were often under the influence of drugs and that they have been on bad terms with James for a long time so exactly what did you see I saw somebody come out from right here okay and there a couple that lives right here and that's the person that's detained no he don't live here he lives over there where you guys brought him out of so where did he come out of his house okay but this couple right here there was a couple that hear a guy and a girl and they they do a lot of drugs okay yeah they do a lot of mess they let me put my leg in there first I didn't mean to do that then I but you pissed me off he doesn't understand a whole lot because of his English he's from Mexico but no no just hated each other they don't like each other because they were arguing over the grass this morning or no sometime they hate each other that's all we know each other yeah okay and I thought it was over drugs but FRS don't do drugs all he does is drink beer he's 81 while James was on his way to the police station the officers came across two people who were visibly nervous they detained them because they suspected that the couple might be connected to the shooting given that they were moving around Frog's house and their behavior was strange it turned out that they were Frog's son and his girlfriend so the officers decided to take them to the station for questioning as [Music] well R for me dude I didn't do anything he hey watch your watch that F you still staying here what you staying on this one or what which one are you saying at I at which one do you just came back from here or what no where were you're coming from we've been cruising around all day you've been cruising you didn't just come from here no I what's going on we just had an incident here I want to know if my dad's okay he's fine what do you mean he's fine like he's okay like what's going on you so you're you're being detained for the time being all right we're conducting investigation you're being detained for that time being what I can't tell you that right now all right we're just cond we're just conducting investigation you are being detained all right somebody got hurt that's what we're trying to figure out who got hurt yeah come here come over here you you stay here right at this house yeah okay I'm just going to don't don't don't yeah I'll let you do you have anything on you tring to cut me me huh no um if you do have any warrants and you have anything on you now is the time I don't have nothing inside nothing nothing like that they're going to find it anyway you need medical attention you're all good medical medical beer a beer yeah no we can't get you a beer man and now the police will question all the suspects who will without too much hesitation explain the relationship between James and the victims as well as what the incident itself looked like if I call you James call me anything you want call me frog I call you frog okay that's been my name since when I was in the Army I've been living there for 4 years okay and I love it there you know it's nice and white and everything then these people move next door to me about a year and a half ago and I'm sorry but workless people you know they just and they called the cops on me like four or five times for no reason you know sometimes i' be out there drinking a beer and they come out so anyway uh these people her boyfriend he a pretty big guy you know they were gone and I was sitting outside I was drinking a few beers and I am afraid of him and her too so I did have a gun outside I I being in the Army I have a right to bear arms absolutely and I'm afraid that they going have they get a chance they can hurt me so I was just sitting there drinking a beer and when they walked by she started yelling again and I said sh shut up and then he started comeing towards me and it happened so fast I don't remember what happened I know what I I shot him I hope I didn't kill him but I I I shot him he took off run I shot him again then and she was running and I may have shot at her too I don't know it just happened real quick I've been pissed off at these people for like a year now okay I hope I didn't hurt him too bad now has it ever gotten physical between you guys before all the time where you guys are actually fist fighting and stuff like that no no okay no but every time he comes by you know he always looks at me know yeah he threatens me all the time and she does too know and these are people that have hardly ever work right he doesn't work I sure do military she's on PTSD PTSD that means you don't want to work so you just say you got PTSD I work on my life you know yeah true today so when they came back and when they were walking walking across they sorry she start they walk right through my backyard all the time I'm a veteran man I serve my and these people pissed me off I've been there four years the cops never came there I had a really nice neighbor black guy he died but two years ago we we always get long L with everybody there when they moved in there right away man she she's just like a screamer you know likes to scream and yell at everybody and that's when it started and I I had it so today I lost it in the meantime the police have questioned the victim who says that she and her boyfriend were just passing by and a verbal argument started they saw that James had a weapon so she took out her phone and started recording him which further angered James and he began shooting he first hit her boyfriend and when they started to run away he shot her too during this conversation the victim wasn't even aware that her her boyfriend had just died from his injuries now the police are also questioning James's relatives who will only confirm the story of the bad neighborly relations I would like to speak with you in reference to what happened over there I've seen her in front of Frog's face and that's Cody's dad okay in his face having her and her husband in his face awful and I've gotten in between him she's very vulgar towards him the older man you don't need to be in his face period being like that if you want to get in somebody's face I'm a woman get in my face you know what I mean right and he's not H your woman first of all you know what I mean right but keep on pushing him I'm pretty sure no one deserves to be talked to like that especially some Elders my my Dad's neighbor is just always messing with them and he's always like the L is always calling the cops and they always be on problems calling the cops on him and talking disrespecting okay what was what was the issue today what was what was the just we me me and my girl were sitting in the backyard and the lady in next door and she started like just talking like like in Spanish that's all that's all you've known or seen or heard or anything like that yeah okay um because we have a reason to believe that you were there when it happened not saying you're were the shooter I'm just saying you were there when it happened can you explain why you have blood on your jersey on your shoulder you got some on your sleeve and you got some on your shoulder cuz the thing is man like I said I'm not here to say that you're the one that's shooting but I know that you were there I know I have witnesses that saw you trying to stop it is that what happened no you know I just like I like do you know what he shot him live no you know where the gun's at you and America didn't take the gun did you no you sure about that yeah okay you but you don't know where the guns at no no and we're just trying to understand why where did this come from you know where did this this aner he speaking at you yeah but that's a good person D sometimes people get pushed to a limit we understand that too we understand that after breaking down Cody gave the police the information they needed to wrap up the investigation he was charged with tampering with evidence possession of firearms by a felon and conspiracy to commit a third degree felony James was charged with first-degree murder attempt to commit a felony tampering with evidence and conspiracy to commit tampering with [Music] evidence okay what's going on today who called you a neighbor what crime did I commit just saying that you're yelling provocative language to people at the park I'm yelling provocative language that's what I that a crime that's what I was told well it depends if it's causing alarm to people it is no it ain't yeah it is you're a liar if you're causing alarm you're lying and if you're yelling threats it could be a crime I'm not yelling threats well I never said that I just said if you were if you were yelling threats it could be a crime yeah you did you just said it no I said if you were if I was yep I don't know what you were yelling that's why I'm here to talk to I'm on private property I have freedom of speech you first amendment you do have freedom of speech but it's the moment that you start causing alarm to people alarm what is alarm what is alarm is that a crime it is if you're causing alarm to people it is not disorderly conduct you state to me the statuto where I'm causing a crime I'm committing a crime when you're causing alarm or annoyance to or an inconvenience to multiple people that is a crime no it ain't yes it is no it isn't it's called disorderly conduct you're a liar you can't be drunk causing somebody I'm on private property man but you still can't be causing annoyance and alarm to somebody that's man when you're intoxicated do whatever I want on my property you want to speak to my lawyer I just want to I'm asking you a simple question I'm getting drunk I love to be drunk that and that's not a crime there you go but are are you saidu but are you yelling at people in the park you got your camera on I do it's not it's not illegal to drink especially when you're on your own property as long as you're not operating a motor vehicle that's right Amen brother are you yelling at people at the park I'm yelling at anybody I want to yell at why because it's my property I can do whatever I want what are you yelling I might be yelling anti-semitic I might be yelling racial slurs whatever you can't do that you're a liar you can't be yelling freom of speech gives me the right to do whatever I want certain it does by audios would you got an ID on you I'm allowed to ID you because you came up to make contact with me no I did not come up to you make contact did you told me to stay off your property and then you came to me the first amendment protects freedom of speech and even hateful speech is often protected but it can cross the line into criminal Behavior if it involves threats harassment or incites imminent violence so this protection is not absolute as this man thinks it is even on one's own property actions that disrupt the piece including excessively loud noise using offensive language in public or engaging in behavior that causes alarm to others are considered disorderly conduct but we still don't know exactly what the man was shouting so now the police will visit the neighbors to gather more information for the case he did admit to yelling to people at the park I asked him what he was yelling he's like it doesn't matter what I was yelling it could be anti-semitic it could be racial slur it don't matter it's really going to turn into show when I try to side him I'm going to end up having to just take him downtown yeah and they may refuse him if he's too intoxicated for DC intox yeah oh it's going to be a wrestling day we can go hook him up yeah how long have you guys been listening to that I didn't hear anything my neighbors did okay um how long maybe since last night cuz I heard it was an a I hear last night okay um I had heard it started last night and it just kind of kept on progressing I would say the last like hour heard it um some um it's like they've got three kids they've got two we've all got like there's just kids everywhere yeah and he was yelling some pretty you know yeah well they were it wasn't so much profane as it just was usually it's super racist very it's racist ethnicity religious um apparently he had some problems with his neighbors in the backyard and he had kind of wandered over to their property and set off their cameras and stuff and yeah they' got they've got a bunch of kids yeah I think they three maybe yeah they do yeah so apparently that was an issue as well but um a couple of people that we have talked to today usually his his TI raids tend to be of the racist ethnic if he like he knows our cars so if he's like pulling in around the same time us he like comes up real far and like tries to scary us after visiting all the nearby neighbors the police found out that Jeffrey was yelling racial slurs at people in the nearby park that day and even threatened them one neighbor said that Jeffrey constantly trespasses on his property even after being warned multiple times not to do so he now wants to use the presence of the police to officially trespass Jeffrey from his property but as you can probably guess guess Jeffrey won't give in that easily um he's got he says his his friends down the street are Jewish and he was calling them effing Jews stole all my money from me and was cussing at them then these two African-American kids were walking through the park and he was calling them the nword um we were talking about probably dcn talks tell him he's not allowed on his neighbor's property if he goes on his neighbor's property again he he'll be trespassed all right come here come here Jeffrey turn around what you going to do we're going to take your to jail today no well for what stop you're trespassing dis you're trespassing you're trespassing St now you're trespassing you're trespassing you're trespass under arrest okay you're trespassing you're trespassing you're trespassing you are trespassing this isn't a go you are trespassing stop you're trespass let me double Che you're trespassing you're trespassing stop you're trespassing get off of me stop you're violating my forth Amendment right you're trespassing liar you trespassing what am I going to jail for you got to sleep look at me hey hey hey you didn't tell me what I'm being detain I'm trying to tell you right now what am I being detained for you're being arrested and taken down Center illegally for disorderly conduct while intoxicated I'm Privateer illegally illegally you're detaining me look at you look at you you're cursing you're lying pie you're pie you're liar you're liar you're liar you're detaining me illegally piece of you're a communist yeah tear my arm off German cow liquor tear my arm off German CRA lier you're law you're law you you detain me off private property okay I didn't who was it that right there baldheaded Jew baldheaded Jew you're arresting me off private property come on private property yes I will come don't have all day you're being I'm Jeffrey managed to avoid charges for resisting arrest and was only charged with disorder conduct woman screamed help me bloody murder basically I opened the door and and open the door and then she got back in closed the door and you hear tons of stuff screaming and knocking around sounds like there's a struggle going on inside basically struggle going on over there yes yeah and I would totally like I want to make sure she's okay these are the people who called the police because of their noisy neighbors they are usually loud but this time the resident of this apartment complex were worried that a woman was seriously injured in the argument the police then went to the apartment where a real drama unfolded out of Sheriff's [Music] Office BR kind of Sheriff's Office BR I kind of Sheriff's Office you're at the door so open it up every day every day I can hear you at the door open the door it's the Sheriff's Office due to exiting circumstances if we have to go ahead and break the door down or get someone with the key to open the door we will we just need to find out if everybody's okay yeah they come up to the door and they kind of you can hear you can hear them ressing up against they probably looking at you right now I mean if they want their door that's okay that's fine about cuz the fire the fire rescue going all come and open his door when the door had already been broken down the suspects decided to leave the apartment through another exit pretending they had no idea that the police had been calling them and breaking down their door for the past 30 minutes or so dispatch make note that they uh they Bas was inside the house once they saw us reach they came out the garage door there's no way in the world you didn't hear us knocking at that door turn it off the keys down the keys down throw the keys down throw the keys down you got any guns KN weapons anything on you need we we need to know about nothing at all at all why did you guys come to the door why didn't you come to the door we why are you shaking so why are you so so why you so why you shaking you guys just came out of nowhere I show okay you came out of nowhere you heard us knocking on that door the whole time you didn't hear us knocking we're banging the hell out of the door my hands are R banging out the door and you didn't hear us we're downstairs anybody else inside I'm sorry nobody else is inside I'm sorry I don't know what's going on what's your first name uh Kyla spell for k y l a a r c whoa whoa whoo k y l a a r r c e a r c e yes how you k y l you guys had to come out here and you guys would open the door you this is brand new no I'm good thank you are you guys married no okay do you live here with him what's going on here why are we getting calls from your neighbors that they're hearing glass break and they're hearing stuff being thrown around what's going on with you guys nothing nothing's going on we were watching a show L listen to me listen me I got information from Neighbors all night long help me help me you're hurting stuff breaking stop doing what's going on like would I take a walk with me I don't want to walk you come with me can I just sit down no come with me this is standard procedure in cases of domestic violence or similar situations the police always separate the two people and question them individually at a distance so they can't come up with a story together usually in most cases the victim doesn't want to admit there's a problem due to fear for themselves and also because they're afraid their partner might get into trouble in this case the girl will make a huge mistake but you'll find out more about that later okay I'm just asking about what's going on your neighbors what's going on why are your neighbors saying all this about you about you're screaming for help help that's why we had to break in your door your door is broken the fireman popped it you're going to have to get the association to fix your door are you serious I'm dead serious all right we're banging on the door banging on the door like I just told you my hands are red and his hands are red from banging on the door there is no way you could not hear us I'm so sorry what's going on nothing at all I promise you nothing at all not to pres charges nothing at all not pressing why would you not press charges I don't even know how to say of the cop thing but why would you not press charges about what if you said you wouldn't press charge what would you not press charge I mean I just said that to just cuz I don't know what's going on nothing's going on 100% how long you've been with we're watching we've been together for 2 years we're good no problems ever neighbors that have been hearing things things throughout the middle of the night nothing's going on nothing's going on so they're lying literally yesterday my freaking plants fell from the backyard and I just started cry crying because I just couldn't do it at late at night maybe that's it so then what you're telling me is all the neighbors standing out here behind me that called us and your neighbors that live on your floor there the second floor there are all lying I'm not saying they're lying I don't know what their perception is they're saying screaming for help and the fact that we're banging and banging and banging and once we get in you guys try to pull away because we're not I don't I didn't really hear you like that were you guys sitting in the garage the whole time we're no we're like sitting in the room we're about to go get breakfast and you didn't hear us banging on the door oh that's Tyler I I find that hard to believe we were ringing the bell okay soell Sor I'm sorry did your did your bell go go to the phone or his phone why do you guys have a video Bell oh it doesn't go to mine what's your name again all right deputy all Bro Look situation didn't even have to go this far well I don't know what it's talking about I get it I don't know what's going you're shaking like it's like yeah because who would not only that you got scratches all over you and stuff like that what's going on talk to me I have no idea what's going on you tell you tell it exactly how we have you how do you have nothing what's going on dude you coming out of the garage you're shaking like crazy you got scratches all over I get it I'm shaking cuz all a sudden someone just block so you live here with someone else that's just that's by myself you live here by yourself oh who is she you she's my girlfriend okay so who was the other dude that was here a friend okay so what happened nothing we just hang out we watch TV and that's it but everybody was yelling and screaming you got neighbors over here and people people don't even live here saying that she was screaming at the top of her lungs something was going on look I'm not trying to make a story up or I and I don't want to I don't want to make you feel uncomfortable more than what you are in the situation but the thing is bro we're trying to find out this is more of a life or death situation it's called circum what going on out of nowhere so that's what I'm confused about so why when we were knock on the door you just didn't come to the door we're downstairs I'm in the shower she's watching a show and then we're downstairs I hear things going all the time so I don't know what is what when you live right next to each other you hear things all the time so well your neighbors and everybody heard you screaming and no heard her screaming like something was wrong and then she's not answering so therefore that gives us even more of a suspicious in in where we got to go and find out who who's alive and who's dead or or see if anybody's okay that's where we're coming from okay I mean yeah but everyone's fine I mean I get it okay so do me a favor you said it's a bedroom right here open this up for me well we've already opened the door I'm just asking you to open it up cuz so we don't have to go back up cuz I can go back up and go back in I'm already I've already have look look look I have a I have a lawful right to be at home to make sure nothing's going okay so open the door let us check and then we're good what is what is the reason I don't understand she's here go check yeah he's saying it's a bedroom down there that's okay you don't have you don't have to cooperate we we're good I just asked him to open the thing cuz it's so the door is already open and we have lawful right to be here so just open the thing Kyler they think someone else is in the house that's what they're trying to say to me we want to make sure everyone's okay in the house yeah there's no one else in here okay we'll open it up okay we'll open it up then for what okay well I'll just go I just go upstairs and go you said nobody else is here he just said his friend was here and his friend just left now tell me the truth yeah but I'm downstairs there's too many listen to what I just said yeah you just told myself and this Deputy that nobody else is here he said his friend was here and his friend left so now you're saying that so now you got she may not know cuz she doesn't go upstairs to see but how do you not know when you've been in the house all time there like like it's it's too much I barely hear anybody downstairs I work on my computer and nothing's going on everything's good look at me okay look at my face I'm [Music] [Music] good first off what what happened out here tonight what happened well I un must there's some kind of evidence there I cut track with a little firewood okay and I didn't hear him come up to me he grabbed me by the left shoulder swung me around his first hit I think was here and then I went down on the ground and I crawled under the little bit under the back of my tractor to keep him from hitting me much more cuz he wasn't hitting me in the body he was just trying to hit me in the head and in the shoulders okay and he said he's going to kill me and he said he was going to kill my daughter and the grandkids they live in Chicago but they come here quite often okay and uh he hit me about 50 times did he hit you was it just with a fist or was it a stick or anything else just his fist just his fist okay is there a a history of Bad Blood between you two or yes okay but I haven't even spoke to in prob 3 4 years okay so you were facing way you never seen him coming no never seen he just grabbed you by your left shoulder yeah and then spun you around yeah and said I'm going to kill you okay he said he's going to kill you as he was hitting me he said I'm going kill you and I'm going to kill your daughter and I'm going to kill your grandkids okay he says I just found out I got prostrate canc can and I'm going to die this was the introduction to a disturbing case of bad neighborly relations that almost had a fatal outcome 79-year-old William cracker was nearly killed with bare hands by his neighbor Gregory Miller for using his chainsaw in the late evening he claims they have always had a bad relationship and that his neighbor threatened to kill him and his family the police officer is now going to interrogate the suspect and I must warn you that his statement and behavior will shock you hi Sor right how you doing sir um okay angry come in all right I want you we'll just stay out here and talk for a second oh um I have a small dog he's right here oh jeez you say you know why I'm already here mhm so what started us tonight good question uh neighbor is always making noise over next to my house I'm tired of it we don't get along okay it's been going on for well since I moved in here okay and it's not going to go away I'm hoping in my heart that I outlive him property line disputes and he he just likes to be right up in my business I feel like you know to me so if I was going to tell a judge if I have to go in front of a judge he has 18 Acres he's always he's right in my face that's why I put up a fence and he's right there and uh so just always right tonight right there so tonight can you explain to me the events that exactly I mean I've already got his side of the story too yeah so just just tell me what happened that's what I'm looking for all right so you were in the house start out here you were in the house chainsaw running over there right next to my house I don't know where you live how you live right next to my house you know the guy's got 188 I think he likes to annoy me and I would tell a judge this okay but but the events the events tonight let's stay on that pass oh okay um it was right there just in the middle of the night running his chainsaw and um it's I take a person personally because the man has 18 Acres he could he could chop all kinds of Dr St he um he does not like me we hate each other we hate each other we're veering off the path of tonight though okay okay um we hate each other and I punched him in the face okay so did you talk did you talk to him at first did you guys have a conversation or did you just go over grab a hold of him turn him around and start beating no um no we do not speak okay we do not speak so you didn't you didn't speak at all you just walked up grabbed him um no we do speak but this has been going on for 20 years he's he's I hate him he hates me okay that's why there's a fence there okay but I'm talking now we're veering off that path again I lost my temp okay and I went and and I went and yeah I'm tired of it and I told them okay so I'm re tired okay I have no children he has kids he has grandkids I told him I know you see this on TV all the time I will take them when I go I have prostate cancer when I go guess who's going to go with me guess who's going to go with me I'm going to die of cancer anyway given that William is almost 80 years old Gregory's actions could also be classified under elder abuse physical attack involving hitting the victim in the head would in most cases constitute aggravated battery but Gregory's statement about wanting to see William dead and his extremely aggressive action of repeatedly hitting him with full force in the head could be construed as evidence of an intent to kill which is a very serious charge according to section 750. 183 of the Michigan Penal Code a person who is convicted of assault with intent to commit murder can even be punished by imprisonment for life so you've got the prostate cancer and you figured I'm going to go over and put an end to this tonight and you went over there not yet not yet I I would like him to stop okay I I if you talk to him if you go be what's your name again Deputy Weekley weekly okay if you go talk to him again I would like him to stay away from me okay if he does not stay away from me we're both going to go up there so here's the deal so like this line right here okay he owns this you own this right up to the right up like as tight as water right yes so he has he pays taxes on this right and you pay taxes on this right yes so he has he can come right up and cut every blade of grass right up to your right up to your line he can make as much noise he can do whatever there's no noise ordinance there nothing he can do whatever he wants on his property okay can I so yeah you can too as long as you're on your property can I put up a stereo and and play rap music the thing is that you already put up a fence okay yes you put up a fence he was on his side of the fence tonight right yes and you walked around your fence yes and you walked up and you grabbed him by the shoulder turned him around mhm and you you started smoking him right how how many times did you hit him 25 30 times maybe no probably five or sick like you're not even supposed to hit your neighbor once okay okay look I hate the guy I want him to die okay we basically hate each other he wants me to die I know he does I want him to die um but I can't do I so as far as how can I so how can I kill here we've W you can't other than outlive him you can't okay I hate that man so here's the deal so what you're telling me is tonight you were in the house he's over there cutting wood you got irritated yes you walked over there you grabbed a hold of him and you you punched him multiple times yes was he fighting back or was he trying to get away from you he was trying to get away from me okay so Greg at this point point right now what I'm going to do is I want you to turn around put your hands behind your back for me I want you interlace your fingers interlace your fingers like you're praying I will no interlace your fingers like you're praying oh well will um you like the door just a second okay where's your wife at she's that Cedar Point that Cedar Point yeah she's that Cedar Point all right GRE how much how much if you had to drink tonight uh let see enough how much how much would you say is enough five six shots five or six shots but I know you guys double it so no we don't double nothing it is what it is what's in this would you would you at least lock the back door what are these oh Mints not drugs can I have one I think sometimes I think if I take him with me what's that I have prostate cancer do you yeah if I take him him yeah who's what are you going to do what why are you going to take him oh cuz I'm going to die anyway yeah yeah I and actually after you let me go a little bit further okay H there if you let me go now I'm really mad okay um so I might just go ahead and take him okay okay oh jeez okay anyway next time I see you I'll probably be in a coffin and so will he which I'm planning on will you lock the back door please yes I told you I'm going to go back and lock lock the door okay thank you I appreciate it I