On May 21st, 2024, what started as a routine disturbance call outside a local convenience store quickly turned into a tense and confusing scene when deputies encountered a man surrounded by scattered belongings, speaking rapidly and insisting he had done nothing wrong. >> And who you yelling at? >> I'm just venting my anger like I was taught to. >> These people are going to think you're going to think you're yelling at them. >> No, I'm I'm No, this girl here uh is what happened was um she I went up there to buy a a blunt wrap. >> Yeah? >> Okay. For tobacco and I said, "What's the hottest blunt wrap you got?" I got $3.05, but I said, "I got more than that cuz I just sold a vacuum cleaner to Katrina's mom." >> Oh, that's right. >> See, I got money in my pocket. >> Yeah? >> Right. So, >> What's all this? >> comes telling me that Tom Banford is driving that told me that like there because she said she's Sire Cumming's and if she don't call the police on me. >> Wait wait you're banned from there, not allowed over there. >> Okay, then now I'll be banned. But tell her this. Don't ever come to me and tell me she's Sire Cumming's. >> Period. Got it right. >> She's Sire Cumming's. What's that mean? >> Oh, Sire Cumming's is someone that Randy Reinhardt supported. God. >> Just good. I'll I'll I'll talk to you in a second over there, okay? >> Hey, thanks for being a snitch and calling the law. >> Hey, quit, Matt. >> Now I understand, Matthew. >> Quit. >> I knew you'd remember. >> I >> I told you like that the wrong god damn it. >> But but but but you can't you can't be yelling out here yelling at >> We were working in corporate. Stay strong, god damn it. Yeah. >> Quit, Matt. >> Yes, sir. >> Quit. >> Yes, sir. I'm done, Matthew. >> Quit. What's all this? >> Uh that's stuff that I that got all trashed. >> Why you got it set up like you're having a yard sale? >> I am having a yard sale right here. >> You can't be having a yard sale here. >> Miss May told me to. >> Who told you that? >> Miss May. She told me she wrote for my life. >> Oh, that's right. What's in the jug there? >> I'm not You can check anything out you want to. >> Yeah, right there, the yellow stuff. >> yellow stuff? That's piss. >> Turn it turn around the other way. >> Right there, that's the top she sold. Screwdriver. >> Yeah, she ain't selling you no blunt wraps. She only sells you screwdriver. >> All right, hold tight. >> All right. >> Hi. >> He definitely wanted martial arts. >> He's already been martial arts before. >> Um he's threatening me that he what he's what he's going to do something to me and I want to press charges on him. >> he say to you? >> Um you want to share with me and the other guys? Cuz y'all cuz y'all was in here when he did it. He came up, he called me all kind of black that I'm going to you up. You you. I stayed over on this side. >> to >> He was buying minors wraps and I wouldn't let him do it. They were standing right over here. >> Yeah. >> So he got upset about it. I said I cannot sell this to you. They're waiting on you right there. I just seen the guy tell him what kind he wanted. So that's why he started flipping out on me, calling me out of my name and threatening me. I want charges pressed, please. >> What did he like how did he threaten you? What did he say? >> He was saying he'll you up. >> Okay. And what did you take that to >> and I don't know how crazy he was cuz I called the police and I got the I called the other place and they heard him in the background and they switched me straight over to call y'all. >> He said you up is what he said? >> How many times did he say it? >> Uh >> Like at least four. >> He was he was screaming and it's like >> He said he'll you up like at least four. >> Did you think that would have mean mean he would harm you or what what did you what did you take that to mean? >> he's on meth right now. I know how cuz usually he'll come over here and he's act just like this and he'll talk to you like this. Right now he's out he's out of whack. So I feel threatened. He needs something needs to be done about it. If he's already been barred, I don't understand why he still keeps coming over here. >> to write a written statement or anything? >> Yes, absolutely. >> Okay. All right. Do you have your Do you have your ID or anything on you? >> Yes. >> Take that to mean what he said you up. >> I took it as he'll me up. >> He'll harm you. >> Cuz he's yes, because he's like he's in a bad way right now in his mind and I can't deal with that cuz I will protect myself. >> He's there but he's not there. >> Right. >> So he was over here on the property here? >> Yeah. >> He was right here at the back window here. >> Yeah. >> And he had his like hands on the Yeah, I'm banging it. >> And he was yelling and screaming at her. >> Let me go grab something. Be right back. All right, Matt. What we going to do? >> Tell me, you're the boss. >> Well, I got I I'm going to ask you a couple questions, all right? I got to advise you of your of your Miranda rights, all right? You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to talk to an attorney and have him or her present with you while you're being questioned. If you if you um want to make any statements without the attorney present, you can do so now. You can stop at any time, okay? >> I understand. >> You understand all that? So, what happened here at Chips? >> Well, bottom line, Matthew, you know what happened. Um I went there and I shouldn't have went there and she told me to leave and I left as she told me to till you got here. >> were you there originally? >> Well, I I was there to purchase um a beverage and I was also to purchase a uh cigarettes at that given time. >> Were you buying for minors? Is that what you were doing? >> No, no, I wasn't. I didn't buy for any minors. That's a lie. And and and any time a given time >> And after you after they told you to you know, after she told you >> No, no, no. What she told me was what made me angry was "I think you're trying to buy them for little boys." I said, "No, I just bought that alcohol right there for $2.99. It's [cough] for 21." That just came in. >> So, she So, she told you no >> and I left. >> And you left. >> And and if she told me that I was banned and I said, "Well, I'll see you in court. When the judge says that I'm banned from your property, that you know, we have a certificate unless Matthew shows up here and tells me I'm banned or or or or hold on if someone else shows up and tells me I'm banned, which would be that person from San Antonio Airport, that guy's pickup truck and tells me I can't do it or to go back to that San Antonio Airport. >> Did you ever threaten them in any way over there? >> No, I did not. I left and I said, "I can't believe last time this happened that you said that I walked through the drive-thru and I threatened you." That's what I said. >> Well, they're telling me they're telling me you threatened them today. >> No, I didn't threaten at all. You know very well, Matthew, I got no Hey, you never handcuffed me before. >> I've never handcuffed you before. You're only only >> So, have I ever been a threat? >> You're always pretty cooperative. However, you have been I can tell you you've been drinking a little bit today. >> Yeah, but have I ever been a threat? >> [cough] >> Not today, you haven't to me. Apparently, you have threatened these people over here. >> No, I didn't threaten no one over there. I left I came back over here. So, I'll I'll I'm willing to abide by your order. >> Okay. >> Unit Charles 073703 You see >> I got I got something in my throat, man. I don't know what it is. >> You're still working there. So, the little number two >> I haven't worked up there in quite a while. >> Hey, remember you told me a lie? >> Yeah. >> Chef, hold me up and hold the table. >> Yeah. >> Number two, but I didn't drive a truck, did I? >> Nope. >> No. You're me, I'm not you. >> You're me. >> That's right. You know what? You went to school, but I didn't. >> Yep. >> That's right. But they asked me to. I told them Chevrolet. >> So, you didn't So, you didn't make any threats to them over there in any way? >> No, sir. >> You never threaten anybody? >> No, I wouldn't be you making a threat, would I? >> No, I know that if you would. I'm asking you. >> No, I threatened you in any way, Chef? What did I >> You have not threatened me, no. >> Look, have you ever Have you ever handcuffed me? >> But But they're saying you threatened them over there. >> Well, I didn't. What she said was I was here buying for some little boys. >> Right. They They said you were buying for minors, right? >> No, no, she said boys. And I said, "I'm not buying anything for any little boys anywhere. I'm selling merchandise here. You know, I got here for a yard sale." >> Hold tight, Matt. >> Hold tight. >> Hey, that's negative. He's not been charged with this. >> Good work. All right, Matt. >> Yeah. >> So, I got three people in there telling me you threat you you threatened this woman out there. >> I ain't threatened nobody. >> I got three people in there telling me you said >> No, no. What I said was >> Stop for a minute. Stop for a minute. I let you speak, didn't I? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. Three people in there, three employees are telling me that you said you were going to this lady up several times. >> No, I ain't going to nobody up. >> I know I'm not saying that you're going to, but you apparently you said that. >> No, I didn't say it. >> Okay. >> Let me tell you something stupid I said. What she said was I violated some little boys. And and and I I don't see no little children out here that are in like cribs or anything. I said, "Well, your son is a means, right?" And she said, "Yes." I said, "Well, where's your black car at?" I said, "Well, I'm going to step out here. I got no issue with you. And I'll stay right here while you call the police and they can come here and talk to me." So, I stayed away from the situation. >> Yeah. >> I did not altercate anything or try to harm anybody. >> threaten nobody at all? >> No, sir. >> Okay. Well, I got three people in there telling me you did. >> Okay. >> So, at this point you are under arrest for menacing, okay? All right. So, I got to take I got to haul you down to the jail. So, walk over to the car over there. >> Okay. >> Empty your pockets for me real quick. >> I got nothing in my pockets. >> You got What's that What's that ink pen right there? What that Is that an ink pen? Is that what that is? >> It's an ink pen. That's all it is. >> Okay. I'm going to put this over here, all right? What do you want to do with all this stuff? >> Well, hey, can I find my stuff when I go to jail or what? >> It's me It's just a It's just It's menacing the fourth degree charge. What is all this? >> That's my my license and stuff and my dollars. >> Put that stuff back in your pocket. You can put the money stuff in your pocket. And then Is there anything sharp in there or anything? >> No. >> Okay. >> That's I found this backwoods scales that I found on the thing. >> Okay. >> Right down there. >> All right. >> Right down there. >> Walk up to the car. >> I'll put all that down. >> Okay, I will. Walk up to the car. Right here. Right here. >> Okay. So, why why you why you arrest me for? >> I just told you menacing. >> Menacing? Hold on, man. All right. This is ridiculous. All right. Come on, man. I I I I I got no problem with it. You know what >> I know you don't. And I ain't got no problem with you. But when I got three people telling me the same exact story, man. >> What what what they tell you? >> I just told you what they told me. They said you were over there purchasing trying to purchase what rafts for for minors. And when you And when >> How do you know I was purchasing for minors? >> you stop for a second? And when they told you no, you got mad and said, "I'm going to I'm going to you up." >> No, I didn't say that. >> Okay. Well, that's fine. If you didn't say that, then that's your story against theirs. >> Well, you would know that. Is it me or Shipley? >> Well, I'm not Shipley or you. Put that stuff back in your pocket there. >> Okay. All right. >> What do you want to do with all this stuff? >> Well, I I just rolled it up. It's yours. Roll it up as evidence. >> Okay. >> You got to put it in there. >> Hey, so I fit So I fit Valley will will clean it up for you, all right? >> Okay. >> They're going to >> No, no, no. Take that with you. >> What? >> All that stuff. >> Well, I can't take it with me right now. They're going to They're They're going to clean it up before you. >> No, no, no.