Mrs. Estrada, let's go outside. If it's over a thousand dollars, that's a felony. I do have to book you in at the county jail. >> I said 83 items. >> She was just pushing the cart out and then the friend followed up behind her. >> So, the friend was trying to just let her bait it. >> Incorrect. >> Grand theft is $750. She was pushing both carts? >> Yes, she had both carts. She had her to walk out with both carts. >> Choosing who you ride with matters. What starts as pushing a loaded cart past the registers turns into a felony ride downtown the moment loss prevention hands the officer a receipt for $973 worth of forgotten items. >> Yeah, I can cancel the transaction now for the individual items. >> Let me look again. >> What I have not done is still ringing up the items. >> I'm still ringing it all up. >> I just put in a lot. >> All right. Uh yeah, I can. Um you guys want to cross pass? >> I don't have the gun. We're all in the car. >> Oh, okay. All right, well, I'll take her out. If you want to just run everything out to me, um I'm just right out. You know where we usually park, right over there to the right. Um and then we'll go from there cuz I got stuff that I can start now without all that. >> Okay. >> All right, Mrs. Estrada, let's go outside. That's stuff that the the stuff in the cart is paid for. Okay. Um yeah, we'll we'll figure it out. All Okay, so Hold on, wait, wait, wait, wait. Don't don't tell me any of that yet. Here's what's going to happen. Normally, I don't I don't Okay. So, this is what for things like this shoplifting, whatever, normally, I don't take people to jail. I You do go in the back of my car in handcuffs. I do all the paperwork, you get a court date, and you leave here on your own with a court date that you have to show up to. What concerns me is the amounts that they were talking about inside. >> The officer spells out the best-case scenario. For smaller shoplifts, you get cuffs, paperwork, a court date, and you walk [music] away from the scene. >> If it's over a thousand dollars, that's a felony, and by law, I'm not allowed to just give you a court date. I do have to book you in at the county jail. You can bond out, you can be out today. I you know, that's you know, how that goes. But legally, I do not have the option of releasing you at the scene if it's felony amount. Okay? So, what I'm going to do right now, I'm going to put you in my car, I'm going to start the paperwork as if I'm going to be able to let you go. That may change once he gives me that total amount, okay? That's not up to me. >> Yes, sir. >> And what I am going to do is I'm going to read you your rights. That way I can ask you about what happened. I can't ask you about what happened till I read you your rights, okay? So, do you have anything in your pockets at all? I'm not going to pat you down cuz you're female. It's just the purse? >> Right here in my front pocket. I'll hold it up. >> Front with me, and you'll get it back before you go. >> laying here on the floor now. >> Stand over here. I'm not trying to cuff you up in front of people. That's no no. >> Oh, sorry. >> Hello. >> How are you? >> I'm good. Do we have a grand total on this yet? >> Yeah, 973 71. That's just the the subtotal, but I got to see. >> That was pre-tax, right? >> Yeah, pre-tax. >> She missed it by $25. She would have been taking the ride. >> Hearing $973 pre-tax is the quiet moment where everyone at that table knows this is now bigger than a bad impulse. >> What is Is it >> Felony is a thousand. >> Huh? And I believe you. Why is everybody else telling me it's still 750? >> I have no idea. >> I was just at the I'm not mad. I'm not mad. >> The total is 1,000 73. >> just at the Kate Spade store. >> Mhm. >> Somebody that works in the deli did 826. They turned her over to the felony. >> Felony amount. >> guy in here the other day. Were you guys in here? I'm like it's changed to $1,000. They're like, "No, it's still $750." >> I will double-check that, but I am almost 100% positive it's $1,000 because I vividly remember when it got changed. Um but I will I will double-check that. >> up that statute, would it say it in there? >> Um Uh yes, but that statute is about 12 pages long. So, you'll be doing some digging. But, I'm going to >> crackhead that I caught behind the liquor store. You came for that, right? >> No, not me. >> No? >> It was probably There's a night shift guy that works this area, too, that looks just like me, and people get us confused all the time. It was probably Officer Tarmen, if I had to guess. >> It was 8:30, and that was >> Oh, no, I was logged on by then. I'm off at 5:00, so. >> the price 8:30, and that was after she said it was a thousand, but they still took it in. >> They did? >> Yeah. >> Did they have any other charges on them? Did they maybe trespass previously? Let me make a call. I'll find out. >> Appreciate your I like still believe you over all the other six people. >> Yeah, I'm more than happy to verify it. >> Thank you [music] so much. >> It's unfortunate that she had to take the fall for somebody else's actions. >> Yeah, so but so >> So, like on that video, like if you watch that video, it's not even her that we're looking for. >> It was It was her friend. >> happened to be there. So, she just happened to be the one that was pushing the cart out. Friend was like, "Oh, I have >> She was telling me she paid, too, right? >> yeah. I watched her She paid for everything. So, that's why I was like, it wasn't really her. We had to bring her in. Not only was she the one pushing it out, but like we don't know if >> Right, it doesn't really matter who rang it up. >> She was like I guess the friend was procrastinating walking around trying to push like trying to like do everything before leaving. So, she was like, "Okay, like I'm going to take this out." So, she was just pushing the cart out, and then the friend followed up behind her once she made it past the the end checkout that they were >> Right. So, the friend was trying to just let her bait it, and you guys grabbed the friend. The friend was like, "Oh, stealing the store." >> over here, and then she complied and like paid for everything and then left. And I was like, "Well, you know I called her friend and she said that she was going to come down and meet me. I guess she called her mom and her mom came here. So, yeah. >> All right. Um, you guys got the the receipt and all that? >> yeah, I got the I got the picture of the training wheels and the I got the actual one here, so I need to probably make another copy of that, but >> Hey, sorry. I'm going to wait in my car. You busy? Um, as far as you know, um, the new the grand theft is it got changed to a thousand for sure, right? Okay. I That's what I thought, too, but I just wanted to verify with somebody else because I'm here at Walmart. Oh, you know what? Did they change criminal mischief to a thousand, maybe? All right, so it it it's 750. Okay. All right, I I will be taking my Walmart girl for a ride, then. All right, sounds good. Thanks. All right, bye. >> We were right. >> You guys were right. I was confusing it with criminal mischief. >> He double-checks the statute, admits he was wrong about the $1,000 threshold, and confirms grand theft still kicks in at $750. She clears it easily. >> Criminal mischief used to be 750, as well. That got raised to a thousand. You need a thousand dollars of damage before it's a felony, but no, theft is still 750. >> Well, cuz it was only like a week and a half ago that I caught this guy and they booked him. >> Yeah, and I believed you guys. That's That's why I wanted to make the call. I'm not afraid to be wrong. All right, Mrs. Estrada, you still good back there? >> My cell is difficult >> There's two parts to this, and the first part involves me being incorrect. Um, which is unfortunate. I thought it was a thousand dollars, and that's what I was actually just looking up. Grand theft is $750. It's lower than what And that being said, the total came to $973. So, I do have to drive you downtown, okay? Um I understand the story you told me, and the story that they told me is the same thing, that, you know, you had the cart, she rang up the items, you paid for the items, and then you walked out with the cart. Now, it's up to you if you want to give me your friend's name, I can include her in this report as well. That way I can explain exactly how this happened. And he even put in his statement, too, that you were with somebody else who left you here to you know, and took off. So, I can't make you give me her name. You know her as what? Didi. Okay. Well, I mean, I'll I'll throw that in there. It's not going to help me much, but I will throw it in there to help corroborate your story that, you know, you claim you didn't know that she was doing what she did. >> Her story about paying for [music] her own stuff while Didi ditched doesn't erase the cart she pushed out full of unpaid goods. >> But, um All right, let me talk to them real quick about those groceries, and then, um we'll go from there. >> How you doing, man? >> Um So, I when I got back to my car, I just realized as far as this stuff goes, I can't take all that, obviously. And she's going to jail anyway, so. >> Okay. >> Um she said she can call her boyfriend to come down here and pick this stuff up. >> Okay. >> You guys cool with that? >> Yeah, that's cool. >> I don't know if you want to keep it in here or put it in customer service. Keep it in here? Okay, so I'll tell her to tell him that. >> in. >> And just have him knock on this door? >> Yeah. >> All right, cool. And I'm sorry, what is, um, the lady's name who was here earlier? >> Uh, Didi. >> Um, I just I just wanted to make sure, um So, I know you guys there was two of them, obviously. [music] Did each of of have a separate cart, or was all the stuff in the one cart? >> They did have a separate cart. Um >> I just want to make sure that everything on the receipt is what was what she was in possession of, what the cart she was pushing. >> She had both. >> She was pushing both carts? >> Yes, she had both carts. >> Okay, so when the friend took off, she didn't take off with a cart. She didn't like ditch the cart and run. >> She left She left She left her to walk out with both carts. >> With both carts. Okay. Perfect. Okay. I just wanted to make sure cuz she was saying that oh, that we she had a cart and I had a cart. Which maybe it was divided that way, but she was in possession of both of them, which is all I care about. Okay. Just wanted to make sure. [music] Thank you, guys. >> Goodness. >> Hello. >> Hey. >> What's that? Grand theft. Um I've got all my paperwork done. I just have to print it out quick. Um also, I don't know if you could help me out. She had asked me to use the bathroom for like an hour. I just couldn't ever do that. If you >> Okay. >> Officers confirmed she had both carts, friend or not. That's possession, and possession is what lands the charge. In the end, she was arrested for grand theft off a $973 load of merchandise that put her comfortably over the $750 felony line. Wrong friend, wrong cart, and suddenly it's felony cuffs. 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