report 73. >> On July 4th, 2023, officers responded to a disturbance involving a woman accused of chasing her neighbors with a knife. 35's unseen. What is that? It's my knife. I asked them if they wanted to buy it and then they called cops. >> Do you have a knife on you? >> Yes. >> That's what it is. >> Yes. And it's >> Okay, step back. Stand on that. >> And it's it's like >> Okay, step back and stand on there. Right there. >> For on everything like I've been trying to sell it. >> She's not armed. >> No, not at all. >> Sit down right there. >> Okay. I I have nothing on me. I've been trying to sell it. It's listed on on Facebook and on Craigslist. And I asked them and like it's one of those ones where you can, you know, and I I asked them and they've been on me like ever since. >> And you came here to sell them? >> I live here. >> You live here? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> And they've been denying me like they can get me in my apartment. >> Okay. And they've been denying it. >> Where are your keys? Right here. >> They're somewhere. >> You don't have any other weapons on you? >> No. No, I do not. >> It's a [ __ ] I have to sell it. I mean, I paid a lot of money for them, you know. It's not like I I never threatened anybody with it. Then I asked them if they wanted to buy it and then they just like called the cops and >> Okay. I've never hurt anybody with it. I've never done any I use it cuz it's a knife. >> Okay. And you don't have any other knives on you? >> No, I do not. >> Okay. Can you stand up for me? >> I'm just keep your arms up. I'm just going to search you really quick. Okay. >> Let's put her in handcuffs. >> Okay. >> Let's put Let's put her in handcuffs. What? >> You're just being like that. I don't like that. Please don't. Please don't. Please don't. It hurts. That hurts. Please don't. Lay down. >> Okay. Listen, it's just for your safety and our safety. Okay. >> Okay. I didn't do anything wrong. Oh, >> yep. Go ahead. Take a seat. >> I'm not on probation. I'm not. >> Are you Have you ever been convicted of a felony misdemeanor or anything like that? >> In 2019. >> Okay. Was it a felony offense? >> A felony 2019 >> for what? What was the felony for? >> Burglary. >> Burglary. Okay. Did you have a weapon on you when you did that as well? I did not. It was hiding in a bedding. >> Okay. Can someone confirm that? >> Hello. >> Hello. How you doing, lady? >> How are you? >> I'm hi. >> Okay. Uh, you can see by all the spit on the floor as you see right there. And then she's been yelling and screaming all day. And then me and him walk past. We went in our room and got a couple things. He's going to spend night in my room. and we went to the back porch and she walks around and started yelling and screaming >> and he she elbowed him in the ribs and tried to push him down the stairs. >> Okay. >> And then um we was just sitting there and she was and she came back when she came back over there. >> She was like I Aaron moved out of her way so she can come up the stairs. >> Okay. >> But she personally got in my way like this like no I want her to move. >> And I'm like you know what? Could you please move? You invaded my space. I'm not going no [ __ ] way. I want you to move. >> So she then we sat out there. He finally got her to go in the house and try to calm her down. >> She came back out with a pocketk knife and flicked it. >> Okay. >> And she was like get like behind us with knife and [ __ ] like that all behind us. So me and him we got up and we ran >> and she chased us around the building. We got right here and I hurried up and locked the screen door and called 911. Okay. >> And this is what she was janking on talking about open the door. you're not going to let me in my own house and all type of crazy stuff. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um and you got hit. >> Um she she elbowed me. >> She elbowed you where? >> Uh in the back. >> In the back? >> Yeah. But we we're on the porch, but she thought I was going to sit down, but when she went to elbow me, I kind of see the shadow and just kind of nicked me. >> Okay. >> And then we got her back. I got her back inside. >> Mhm. And I took the vacuum cleaner out of that back door. >> Okay. >> And we I came back outside. >> Mhm. >> I mean, if I would have if I would have took another step and she elbow in the back, I would have fell in the stairs. >> Right. >> And then I just sat back. And then >> then she came back out about 5 minutes later with a pocketk knife trying to sell it to us. And we're sat down, you know, smoking a cigarette. >> And then she tried to sell us a knife for 220 bucks. And I felt uncomfortable. I was like, "Tony, let's go downstairs. Let's go around." We ran. We came in here and Tony like blocked this dorm door >> cuz you chased us around the building with the knife. >> Yeah. >> Trying to sell I got eBay and this and that >> and I felt >> chasing her with the knife in the box. >> No, not even the knife was out. She flicked it open. That's what That's why me and her ran down the stairs and she's drunk. I think she had about two gallons of Takala. >> You know what I mean? So >> she's so >> Yeah. I don't I don't drink. I don't smoke. I don't >> I've had a few beers. I have no idea what she had. Okay. >> Um, >> I live right there. >> Okay. You live in 10, you live >> in eight. >> In 8. And where does she live? What? >> She lives in >> four. >> In four. >> Mhm. >> Does she live with anybody? >> No, she lives by herself. >> Okay. So, what, now that everything's kind of calmed down, what started this? What? >> Um, we just we just walked past. We went in the room and got some movies. >> We headed upstairs and she was when we walked past, she was already right here spitting all over the porch. Yeah. >> Just like kind of pacing back and forth. >> No, she was sitting here just spitting, drinking, spitting and drinking. >> Oh, so she had a drink with her, too? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> And so we went in there, got some movies. Um, we went upstairs. Told you we selling the porch. We were watching the fireworks, smoking a cigarette. >> Yep. >> She comes from behind us. No, she comes from around here. >> From where she was sitting right here. She came from around here. >> Okay. >> And I'm like, Aaron, move her so she can get past. And she purposely stood in front of me like, "No, I want you to move." Mhm. >> And I'm like, "No." Then Aaron was like, "Why are you invading her space?" You know what I mean? Get out of her, get out of her way. You know what I mean? >> So, I'm still sitting there. I'm like, "Just go ahead and go around Kathy. I don't have time for you." So, she went around. She was like, "Okay." At first, she stood there like, "Okay, I guess I'm just going to need to stand here until you move." >> Okay. >> And then when she got around after that, >> she tried to throw elbow after she got her face. She tried to elbow at me, tried to push me down the stairs. Then she came back. >> I don't know kind of where we're at here. >> Okay. >> So then, so you guys are up there. >> Yep. Watch the firework. >> Watch the firework. She came. She got in your face. You ended up moving. >> No, I just sat there. I moved. >> You moved. You moved for her. >> I for her. She's like, "No, she's got to move." >> Okay, then what happened? >> She stayed there. >> She stayed there and she was like, "I guess I'm not moving then." >> Right. >> So I'm like, "Okay, whatever." And then she walked past. Then they started arguing and they got into the house. I don't know what happened back there, but he ran back out and he pulled the vacuum from the door and it closed. And then that's when she came out with the pocketk knife behind us. >> From her room. >> From her room. >> Yes. >> And then she went out towards the deck where you guys were still standing with the pocket knife where you're sitting. >> You went down the stairs to get away. >> We ran down the stairs. Then we ran around the building and she chased us around the building. >> What was she saying when she was chasing you? I don't know what she was saying. >> Just kind of gibberish. >> You want to buy a knife? >> You want scared? You want to buy a knife? Yeah. But she was like, "Oh, you're scared. What you scared for? What you running for? What you running for?" >> Okay. >> So, she didn't threaten you with the knife, >> but it scared you obviously because she had the knife out like the blade was >> out. And then she just she had an attitude with me. She was spitting, >> jumping in my face, and things like that. Do you come out with a pocketk knife? Correct. Like, that's not okay. >> Trying to sell it for $220. like >> and I I think she was trying to sell the one that was in the box, but she had the other one open. >> No, the one she had in the box. Okay, she had two of them. >> Yes. >> See? Okay. I didn't know that. I only thought she had one. >> The knife she pulled out. >> She had one knife that pulled out the box. I don't know the box. >> She flicked it open when she came out the door. >> Yeah. And that's ran out. >> Can you describe the knife? >> Um I flip up and click and it was stuck. It was a stuck knife. Click it out. Flipstick. >> Do you know what color was it? Black. I think >> black one. >> Yeah, that's the knife. And she popped open just like that and staring at me. What you running for? Why you scared? >> Okay. >> Um, >> yeah, >> she counled up. So, whatever statements you have in here. >> That's fine. It's going to be You want to pursue charges? >> Oh, no. >> You don't want to pursue anything? >> Okay. You just want her >> just to calm down. >> Calm down. Do you want to pursue anything? >> I mean, no. >> No. But I mean >> she has to stop though. I mean it's an ongoing day. >> Okay. >> I mean not the pocket knife thing. But she slept through the head. She been >> Is she a felon? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So she we have that. >> Okay. For the knife. >> For the knife because it was concealed on her person. She didn't have a concealed knife. It's a misdemeanor. >> Okay. >> So sorry. >> Well, that's fine. If you guys don't want to pursue anything, that's your prerogative. You don't have to. She's going to go to jail cuz she is not supposed to have this, >> okay, >> on her person at all. Um, so I don't know if she'll get out tonight or if she'll be seen in front of a judge tomorrow. >> So, what's going to happen next week when the same thing happens and it's not the fourth July? >> You're going to have to call us again. >> Okay. >> It's just going to be a never- ending cycle, unfortunately. Um, it's also one of those things where um maybe you want to talk to the landlord. >> Oh, okay. and kind of let her her him >> her Debbie Seagull >> Debbie Seagull let her know what's going on and she can go through the process of maybe evicting her >> because if it becomes an issue if we keep coming here Debbie doesn't Debbie's not going to want her here. >> Okay. >> It's not it's public record. So if she wants to report she can come to the station and grab it >> cuz that might help her with the eviction process and everything like that. >> Thank you. >> Can you please remember this? >> Were you convicted of the felony in 2019? >> Yeah. >> You are. So you're a convicted felon. Is that correct? Is that a true statement or >> I don't want to speak to you. >> Why is that? >> Because I don't know what you're asking me. >> I'm asking for that burglary charge that you had. Were you convicted of that? Are you convicted of >> No, I didn't do anything to hurt anybody. >> I'm sorry. Like it wasn't like I was >> So Katherine Electric Kathy Kathy said you prefer Kathy. Okay. So, do you know why they would have called? >> Because she's angry at me because her boyfriend had sex with me >> and I have picies on my neck because of him. >> So, it's just some kind of ongoing stuff. >> Okay. So, that was the knife in that box the whole time or >> Yes. >> Okay. So, did they open it? >> I I've been it's it's listed on on Craigslist. Like, I'm trying to sell it. It's not. >> So why do you want it? >> I was never taken out in the like where I was like who you know never >> I would never threaten anybody. >> Okay. >> Never. >> Okay. >> Cuz I'm not that kind of person. >> Okay. >> It was never meant like I never threatened. And if they say that I threatened them, it's a lie cuz I did not. >> Okay. >> I live here. I live up there. I didn't do anything wrong. I know I didn't. I was It's listed on on Craigslist. Like I'm trying to sell it like and I was I showed them like and it wasn't during the time and then all of a sudden she got like all angsty at me but she doesn't like me anyways. >> Okay. So, I was ne I would never threaten anybody with a knife, especially a book knife. >> Okay. All right. This >> Oh, I'm sorry. I'm just going to say this officer is going to read you something before we keep talking. Okay. >> I don't >> At this point, you're detained, but a reasonable person would think that you're not free to leave cuz you're not. You know what I mean? >> Two of them. >> Okay. >> Well, just listen to what he has to say real quick. Okay. >> What's your name again? Kathy. >> Catherine. >> Catherine. Is that what you prefer? Kathy, what? >> Okay, Kathy, you're in handcuffs. You have four cops standing around you and you're sitting down on the ground with squad lights on around you. Okay. >> I think it's reasonable to expect that you don't feel like you're free to leave. >> So, I'm going to read you right here. >> I'm going to read you your rights. >> I'm going to have to. Okay. >> And if you choose not to talk to us, that's okay. Okay. But I'm going to read these to you first. Okay. >> You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can abuse against authority. You have the right to speak attorney and have present during any questioning. >> They haven't said anything yet. I'm trying to get your side of the story. >> But you're reading my me my rights >> because you're not free to leave and I can't question you while you're >> No, I can't question you while you're in handcuffs cuz you don't feel free to leave. I don't want you to incriminate yourself in that sense. >> I didn't do anything. So Kathy, other than you slept with her boyfriend, why else would she be so upset with you? >> Ask her. >> Okay. So my my partner's talking to her. I want to talk to you because I want to know your your side. Other it's not fair if we only take this. >> You guys are already reading away my rights. So you're going to take me to jail? And I don't need to go to jail. I didn't do anything wrong. >> Well, you kind of just blew your opportunity to give us your side of the story because you just said you wanted counsel. So, so now, so now what's going to happen is we're going to go based off of the statements that they're telling us, and that's what's going to happen tonight. But if you keep yelling outside in public at 11:11, >> I live here. >> Then we're going to take you to jail for a new charge. >> I didn't do anything. >> I didn't. >> Just take a deep breath. >> She's just attitude. My attitude. I'm sorry, officer. I didn't do it. >> Okay. Let's stand up. Okay. >> Did you see the chicken? >> Okay, we're going to walk over to the second car on the left here. Okay. >> It was not the seal. >> Okay. Come on. Let's walk. Okay. >> Nope. Nope. >> Nope. >> All right. >> Okay. Catherine, listen. We're going to set you down. Okay. >> We don't want to hurt you, but we need to get you in the car. Okay. Yeah. >> So, if we roll you over, can you just sit up and walk to the car so we don't Otherwise, it's going to be a resisting charge, okay? And I don't want you to get anything else. >> I'm having a seizure. >> No, you're not. >> Yeah, I am. >> Catherine, stop. Okay, we're going to roll you over and get you back up. All right, we're going to roll towards me and we're going to sit you up on your butt. Okay, >> come on. I don't want to hurt you. It's going to hurt your shoulders now. You're just being silly. >> L4 is broken. L4 silly right now. >> L4 is broken. >> You're going to get more charges. >> I need an ambulance. >> L4 is broken. >> Why do you need You don't need an ambulance. >> Yeah, I do. L4 is broken. You're taking me under duress. >> No, you were walking with us. >> I know what my rights are. >> Okay, I'm going to give you one more opportunity to stand up. Otherwise, I'm adding a resisting obstructing charge, which is also a misdemeanor. Yes. >> For what? >> Because you have about 5 seconds to get up. >> I can't get up. >> Here, we'll help you out. Okay, we'll help you. We're going to three. There we go. Now, let's walk. All right. I have a half passenger side. >> Tell me what I'M GOING TO JAIL FOR. OKAY. It's easiest if you put your butt in there first. Okay. Watch your head. Okay. Thank you. >> Yep. It was attached to a chain. Yes. This is the pocket. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. The pocket chain. >> This was This stayed in here. >> That stayed Okay. So, that one did stay in there. >> Yep. This one was never branded. >> So, she did know that it was in her pocket. >> Oh, okay. >> So, we're doing felon in possession of a concealed weapon. And >> that's it. >> That's it. Okay. because they don't want to do anything. >> Okay, sounds good. >> I'll come with you. >> Go to the deal together. >> Okay. Yeah, just primary on this. >> Help me. >> Catherine, are you going to walk in with us? >> Don't touch me. >> I have to touch you cuz I don't want you to fall. Catherine, stop. >> Stop. We have to other stop >> Catherine stop you going to poke a stick anyone F warning around very well.