I will be extracting you from the vehicle. >> Oh my lord. >> I've done nothing right here. I've been wrong here, sir. Hands >> behind your back. >> I've done nothing wrong. I've done nothing wrong. I've done nothing wrong, sir. I've done nothing wrong. I've done nothing wrong. >> Stop resisting, man. >> I'm not resisting. >> Stop pulling away. >> I am not pulling away. >> Pulling away, sir? >> No, I'm not. Sir. Sir, what are you doing? What are you doing? What are you doing, sir? >> On October 28th, 2024, a law enforcement officer assisted a repossession agent who had located a vehicle flagged for non-payment. What started as a civil commercial dispute ended with a woman physically extracted from a locked running car and placed under arrest for obstruction. The question this footage forces is not one of excessive force. It is whether the officer had lawful authority to issue those commands at all and whether an obstruction charge can survive when the underlying order itself may lack constitutional footing. 13 bravo whiskey. What's up, man? >> What's that? >> I got all the information. The car was here on repo. >> Yeah, she wasn't in it. >> She came out. She came out. >> What's it? Um, it's just like a repos like it wasn't paper or whatever. >> Okay, I got you like whatever showing. Does it have that tag attached to it? That's Okay, let's get out of the car. >> I'm not getting out of the car. >> Why not? >> Cuz I'm in the car and it's on and it's illegal to tow a car that's on the person in it. >> That's not That's not true. Not true. >> Yes, it is. >> Okay, so listen. So Yes. >> So there's only the only option. >> We haven't done anything illegal and this car is under registration and there's nothing wrong with this car. >> Okay. So listen, there's only the only way we're going to be able to deal with this is you're going to have to come out of the car. Okay? >> I'm not getting out of the car. >> So you're just going to sit in the car all day? >> I'm in the car. It's time. >> He's towing an illegal car. He's doing an illegal tow. >> He's not. >> Yes, he is. >> He's not. >> He hasn't shown any documents. And I don't own this car is not owned to anybody but a pole. >> Who's Paul? >> Paul is the person who is registered to this car. >> Okay. So then get out of the car. >> No, I'm not getting out of the car. >> Let me see your ID. >> Nope. >> You're not going to show me that either. >> Show me your ID. >> Okie dokie. Well, get a nice blue team here. Just want to see the man real quick. All right. I see. That's the same car. >> Just so cuz I'm about to take Rip out of the car here. Just making sure. So this car has not been paid for. >> No. Cargo. >> Okay. And you were just driving and it pops up or >> Oh, yeah. Camera's >> pops. Yeah. Walmart here. He wants to get out. Okay. Yeah, I'm just getting all my dunks in the roll before I, you know. Okay. I'm going to get her out. Just waiting for another person. We'll take her out. All right. I'll try to do this without damaging the vehicle, but hey, what it is is what it is. Yep. I'm giving you another uh command to get out of the vehicle. If you do not get out of the vehicle, I will be extracting you from the vehicle. >> It's it's not I'm giving >> I haven't broken >> I'm letting you know. I'm giving [clears throat] you four commands now. >> Broken any laws? I'm parked in my car. It's running. It's running. No, this is an illegal This is an illegal toe. >> I'm just giving you the warning. >> Toe. It's illegal to >> It is not. >> Yes, it is. >> I verified everything. I need you out of the car. >> This is an illegal toe. >> You are subject to arrest if you do not get out of the car. >> Sir, this is an illegal toe. >> Okay. I I've given you way too many warnings. >> No, sir. >> This is an illegal toe. >> Okay. >> And and and you you will be responsible for your actions. >> Okay. >> You you do an illegal toe. He hasn't shown any documents and there are no payments owed on this vehicle, sir. >> I'm letting you know, >> sir. You're doing You're doing an illegal tow. >> Okay. >> You're doing an illegal tow. >> It can This can be all result of you. Just get out of the car. >> I haven't broken any laws here. >> Okay. >> I've broken no laws. >> You as an official should know this. >> Okie dokie. >> Where's your badge? >> I'm literally wearing it. >> Where is it? I don't >> right here. >> That's That's not a metal bag. >> Right here. >> Okay. So, you're an official? >> I sure am. And I'm And I'm asking you guys to court. >> Truth and high honor. No. Okay. Truth and honor. >> I'm not going to argue. >> Truth and high honor. No. Has he showed you any documentations? He hasn't showed you any documentations, sir. >> Truth and high honor, sir. >> You're going to have to get out of the car. >> Truth and high honor. Hold your truth and high honor, sir. Hold your truth and high honor. >> You are you going to lock the car? >> Hold your truth and high honor. >> Are you going to unlock the car? told you high on >> I'm going to go castle inside to break the window to get her out cuz she's not too far. Well, from before I do that, I'll be able to unlock it >> if you want to get on the driver's side. So, you can grab the handle real quick or however you want to do. But I think >> Sorry. >> Yeah. I He's He said she's got to get out. >> So, he doesn't have a key. >> You don't have any Okay. I've given her like 10 commands, dude. So, >> I have not broken any law here, sir. Ma'am, you need to come out of the car. >> No, I'm not coming out of the car cuz I haven't done anything wrong. >> If you don't come out of the car, we're going to be forced to take you out of the car. >> Sir, sir, I have not broken any laws. >> Okay. >> I have not broken any laws. >> Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. >> Put your hands behind your back. >> Oh my lord. I've done nothing right here. I've been wrong here. >> Hands behind your back. >> I've done nothing wrong. I've done nothing wrong. I've done nothing wrong, sir. I've done nothing wrong. I've done nothing wrong. >> Stop resisting, man. >> I'm not resisting. >> Stop pulling away. >> I am not pulling away. >> Pulling away, sir. >> No, I'm not. Sir. Sir, what are you doing? What are you doing? What are you doing, sir? >> The fourth amendment prohibits unreasonable seizures under Terry v. Ohio 392US1 decided in 1968 any police order a reasonable person would not feel free to disregard is a seizure and that seizure demands either reasonable articulable suspicion or probable cause to be constitutional. Officers commonly invoke Pennsylvania vims 434US106 1977 to order people out of vehicles but MIMS is explicitly limited to lawful traffic stops. There was no traffic stop here, no moving violation, and no active criminal investigation of any kind. Law enforcement's role at a civil repossession is to maintain the peace, not to enforce a creditor's contractual rights. The moment an officer orders someone out of a vehicle to facilitate a private commercial recovery, that officer has crossed from peacekeeping into state sponsored debt collection, and courts treat that distinction seriously. Self-help repossession is governed by UCCC article 9, section 9609, which permits secured creditors to recover collateral after default without a court order, but only if the repossession proceeds without a breach of the peace. That condition is not a suggestion. It is a statutory floor. Courts have consistently held that a debtor physically present in the vehicle who verbally objects has already triggered a breach of the peace and the agent is legally required to withdraw. The 10th Circuit confirmed in Marcus v. McCollum 394F3813 2004 that police who push through over that objection are engaging in unconstitutional state action. The physical extraction must be evaluated under Graham v Connor 490 US 386 1989. That standard weighs three factors. The severity of the alleged offense, whether the subject poses an immediate threat, and whether the subject is actively resisting. Here the offense was a nonviolent misdemeanor. The subject was stationary in a locked car and passive refusal of a command is not active resistance under that framework. Obstruction requires interference with a lawful police function. That word lawful is loadbearing. If the command to exit lacked independent constitutional authority in a civil repossession context, then refusing that command does not satisfy the elements of obstruction. An unlawful predicate cannot support a valid arrest. The officer receives a B minus. He maintained composure, issued repeated warnings before escalating, and did not display aggression. But he treated the repo agents commercial interest as the legal basis for his commands without articulating any independent criminal predicate, and that gap in legal justification is what drives the grade down. The subject receives a C+. She had a defensible instinct. occupying a vehicle and verbally objecting may well halt a repossession under UCCC9 609. But invoking sovereign citizen language, demanding the officer swear an oath under truth and high honor, carries no legal weight anywhere in the country and buried a potentially valid argument under legally meaningless theater. The repossession agent receives a B. He cooperated professionally and had documentation, but continuing the repossession over the subject's direct verbal objection rather than withdrawing and seeking a court order as UC C9609 requires is what set this entire escalation in motion. Do you have any weapons on you? up too. >> Stand right here. um license somewhere my 220 524 69 750 >> right >> what? Yeah. What's up? Yep. >> Nothing's up. >> What is up with you, man? >> You guys need something? >> Yeah. My girl got a bunch of >> what? >> Oh. >> Oh, I'm not doing that. >> Got like >> Hi there. What's your name? He's set. He's set. >> Yes. Can you come on up for a second? >> You have body jewelry on? I do. Turn around for me. All the way. All right. Can you request 99? >> Can you turn this way? >> Why am I being arrested? >> Obstruction. >> Obstruction. of what? >> Anything else on it? >> Anything over here? >> Subject is too Let me show you. >> Nothing else anywhere, right? All right. Spread your feet for me real quick. All right. This encounter leaves five lessons worth carrying forward. Whether you are a driver, an officer, or someone who never expects to find themselves in a situation like this one, first know exactly which authority applies. Mims Pennsylvania vims 434 US106 authorizes exit commands at traffic stops only. It does not extend to civil disputes. Legal context defines legal power and officers who blur that line create exposure for themselves and their departments. Second, when police cross from peacekeeping to actively pushing a repossession forward over a DTOR's objection, courts treat that as unconstitutional state action. The right tool for a disputed repossession is a court order, not a police command. Third, UCC article 9, section 9 609 mandates that a repo agent stop the moment an occupant objects. That is a statutory obligation, not a courtesy. Ignoring it with law enforcement assistance does not speed up the recovery. It creates the legal exposure that can unwind everything. Fourth, sovereign citizen invocations are legally inert. No court in the United States recognizes truth and high honor, common law oaths, or any variation of that framework. If your strongest move in a legal dispute is a ceremonial phrase, you do not actually have a legal move. Fifth, if you believe a police command is unlawful, compliance under protest is almost always the stronger play. 42 USC section 1983 provides a civil remedy for constitutional violations. And that claim is far more powerful and far more recoverable than a physical standoff that ends in handcuffs. If there is an interaction or illegal topic you want us to break down, put it in the comments below. 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