I came to pick up my daughter and my son. What did I do wrong? >> Come on, get in or we're going to pull you in. Get in the car. Get in the car. >> Y'all Y'all willing to lose your job over this? >> Get in the car. >> On January 24th, 2024, at an elementary school in Charlotte County, Florida, a father came to pick up his two children and left in handcuffs. Three constitutional questions determine whether every step of that outcome was lawful. >> Hey, how are you? Sergeant Gentleman Yeah, the gentleman in question is up in front of our school office up there. He has gotten out of his vehicle. One of our other administrators, she's been stalling him so he would stay on campus. I don't know what their conversation is, but he's up there. Our other administrator is up there in the blue shirt. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> All right, let me drive up there. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Hey, how you doing? >> Good. How's it going? >> Good. Our assistant principal there is stalling him pretty good there. I don't want him to >> Okay. So, what what uh What did you observe when you came in? >> Um he almost ran over our security officer running going too fast in the car. >> Okay. >> And so, she slowed him down. She got him calmed down. But, when he got out of the car, he's like visually stumbling and he's slurring his words and stumbling. >> Uh-huh. Anybody question him as far as um He wasn't feeling well? Any type of uh medical diabetes or anything? Okay. >> You want to God's You know, God's people even even not God's people. >> Yeah. >> How's it going? What's going on, Sheriff? >> Fine, ma'am. >> Okay. Can I talk to you for a second? You're good? You're good? You're good? What's going on? >> I'm fine. What's What's the problem? >> I'm No, I'm just checking. You're here to pick up the kids? >> Yes, I was just talking to one of the teachers. >> Okay, any issue when you came in? No? >> No, no, no, not that not none that I can recollect, no. >> Okay, did anybody have to talk to you when you came in? >> No. >> Did you come in too quickly? Did anybody have to stop >> No, normally when we come in there's a line already and we have two kids and um my son's 10 and my daughter's two, so as a and they go to the same school, they both go here, so I'm >> Okay. >> And I was just talking to talking with him about parent pick up and other programs with the school as far as >> Okay, so basically what happened is a call came in that there was a concern. There was a concern for you, um whether this is another parent that called in, I'm not sure. >> No, no, because it would it would be my wife which she's >> hold on a second. I'm not saying your your wife >> Is it okay for me to move over here cuz >> You're fine right where you're at. Why do you need to move over there? >> Well, hey, I'm I'm not going to lie, man, I picked up both of my children. Again, they're He's 10 and she's about 3 years old. I've never had this kind >> but I'm asking why did you want to move over there? You can just sit there. >> No, I >> Do you need to sit down? >> no, no, just comfortable for you cuz I've never had this kind of conversation. >> Okay, well, I I was just There's not a conversation. You're not letting me talk. Let me let me explain myself. >> No, well, no, I'm >> to let me explain myself so you understand why I'm here, sir? I'm asking you, are you good with that? Can I explain myself why I'm here? >> I've been okay all I've been nothing but cordial with everybody here. I've never >> Nobody said you weren't cordial. Nobody said you fought with anyone. Nobody's implying that at all, sir. >> But but ma'am, I've never seen >> to try this one more time. Are you going to allow me to talk? >> I've never seen a officer talk to any and I've been here for years picking up my son and my daughter. >> a complaint that came in on you, which I'm I'm trying to explain to >> Yeah, but you're not giving me the opportunity to talk to >> On my name? >> Okay, I'm going to ask you one more time. Are you going to allow me to speak and tell you what that is? >> I will, but but the fact that you you let me know that there's a complaint on me. >> Okay, do me a favor and stop talking for a second. >> No, you >> talking for a second so I can explain why I'm here. Let me explain to you why I'm here. Somebody called in that you drove reckless through the parking lot. >> No, ma'am, there's no >> down and that you were kind of slurring your words and you were uneasy on your feet. So now our concern is if you are possibly impaired. >> Ma'am, that's >> But that's what I'm asking you, okay? But you're not allowing me to even talk. >> I promise you every and my wife and myself and if not me and my and we we've never came like that. >> Okay. >> And I was just and that was >> your wife. >> She's at She's at work. That's why I'm picking up the children. >> I'm not worried about your wife. I'm talking about for you right now. Okay, so there's no correct. >> Well, wait, wait. >> of any drugs? >> No, but >> under the influence of any alcohol? >> No, but I was just talking to Look, he's right there. >> need to look. I'm looking at you. I'm asking you I want you to talk to me and don't worry about him. >> No, I'm not worried about him, but you specifically said people were talking about me. This is a >> Back up a bit. Don't get that close. >> Ma'am, hold on. >> Stay right where you're at, okay? >> Ma'am, I was before I even encountered you or seen you, I was speaking to the and I have I have never been aggressive with him or anything. My daughter comes out at 2:30 and my son which is he he's I would say 10, 11 years old. >> Okay. He comes out at 2:45. >> Okay. >> I never came with no disrespect >> Nobody said you were disrespectful. >> or or any kind of aggressiveness. I was actually before you came this way. >> Nobody said you were aggressive with your mouth. >> But because I was speeding. I would ma'am, I was not. >> Nobody had to slow you down? >> No. >> Nobody here in any line had to slow you down? >> Ma'am, ma'am, I promise you when I actually have access to the vehicle I drive and when I don't I ride my >> What does it mean when you have access to a vehicle? What does that mean? >> Meaning when my wife, she works corrections. >> Okay. >> Okay, so she works at Charlotte County Corrections, not Airport Road at the jail. When she has a vehicle it's either she has a vehicle and I walk. Okay, are you understanding me when I say >> Yeah, this is simple. This is this is not >> So but what is the problem because this is everyday. So what All I want to know is what I did wrong and I >> I just told you. What did I tell you that you did wrong? What did I tell you that they alleged you did wrong? Yes, what I told you, sir. >> But why was I why when having a conversation with And again, as as parents of two children here because of the politicking going on, I don't even know his position, but I was speaking to him. >> He's not He's not the person that called. >> No, but he didn't mention no speeding. That's number one. Two, she and I'm not blaming her for anything. I mean if she called and but once I reached to this premises as of today, nobody said anything. >> Okay. >> All I want to know is what I did >> I'm I'm I'm telling you. I'm telling you what the complaint to the sheriff's office that came in. The complaint to the sheriff's office is that you were speeding through here when you came in. They had to slow you down and there's a concern when you exited the vehicle that you could be impaired. >> Ma'am, that's >> Okay, that's what I'm telling you with the complaint. >> Ma'am, I promise you that is incorrect because when I pulled up here to pick up my daughter and my son, and I called earlier because again, my son is almost 7 and 8 years older than my daughter, but they still go to the school. There's a voice record of that. >> Okay. >> That yes, he is coming here. And when I came here, I spoke to that >> Back up a little bit. Back up a little bit. You can't be in my space, though, okay? You can't be in my space. That's all. That's fair to ask. >> Ma'am, when I came here, I was speaking with that one individual that just went in there. I did not speak I ride my I ride my bike in here. I don't always drive because if you run my name, I ride my bike. >> What do you mean if I run your name? What's going to happen when I run your name? >> Nothing. I don't >> No, what's going to happen when I run your name? >> Nothing. I mean >> your driver's license, please. May I have your driver's license so I can run your name, sir? Do you not have one? >> Is it okay if I look at my phone? >> No, you don't have to go for another unit, okay? Just bear with me for 1 sec. >> Another unit? >> Yeah. Just hold on. There's someone else coming here because I'm I have to be freed up so I'm available for other calls. Come on over here, sir. Where are you walking away to? >> I'm Ma'am, I'm not I'm moving out the way. >> You're not in anybody's way. You're good. >> No, but >> You're good. >> No, the way you're calling things out, it's like I'm doing things. >> I'm not calling anything out. >> I called in advance. >> Why are you yelling? >> I'm not yelling. >> sir. You're yelling. Why would you be yelling? I'm not yelling at you. Don't put your hands in your pockets, please. Okay? >> So, I I I can't even have proof of this conversation right now. I'll put my hands up. >> need to put your hands up. >> Do you want to search to >> Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. >> Wait. Wait. >> Okay. >> Wait. >> Then keep your hands out of your pocket. If you don't want me to search you, that's fine. Keep your hands out of your pocket. >> look. My hands will be up cuz you will embarrass me and not only me but my two children. >> here to embarrass you. >> Yeah, no, that's exactly what >> Okay, sir, I need you to stand right over here. Do not go over >> Ma'am, you just gave me permission to empty my >> off, stop. >> Ma'am, you just gave me permission. Ma'am, you just >> 17, what's your location? >> This is 10. >> She just gave me permission >> I'm not going to tell you again. No, you're not emptying your pockets. I told you to not put your hands in >> gave me >> I told you not to put your hands in your pocket. If you put your hand in your pocket, I'm going to rip your hand out of your pocket. >> But look, ma'am >> So there's something some I'm trying to talk to him. He's very uh >> No, ma'am, that sir, that is not >> Hang on, just let her brief me on what's going >> Okay, let her let her brief you. >> Yeah, let her brief you. >> need to put your hands up in the air. >> I'm going to put it no because You get she gave me permission and >> Listen. Listen. Just hang tight for a second. Put your hands down. What's your name? >> She gave me permission. >> your name? What's your name? Is it Tristan? >> I've never seen no parent go through this. >> Okay. Well, put your hands down. >> I'll put it down. >> figure out what's >> I don't know. I've never seen no parent I've never seen no other parent. >> Okay. Hang tight. >> No, I and I'm >> Listen. Take a seat for me. Just sit down, Tristan. >> Sit. >> Yeah, sit down. Just sit right there. >> Just sit right there. >> Can I go ahead and sit right there? >> I've never seen no parent go through this. >> Okay. Listen to me. Just relax. Take some deep breaths for me. >> I'm fine. >> Do you have your driver's license on you? >> Does Does Is that your dad? Does he have his his ID or anything in it or his like or his wallet? I'll get it. How are you guys? Did you have a good day at school today? Yeah? Oh, is that what you're eating today? Nice. Did you have a good day at school? You don't go to school? >> No, I'll start it. >> I'll be right back, okay? >> She's just >> No, she she made me aware >> Okay. All right. Well, I'm I'm talking to you now. So, do you have >> me aware and there's no disrespect. I >> Okay. Do you have >> As a security officer in in New York, not here in Florida. Cuz I was never even given the opportunity to, but >> Okay. Okay. Where's your wallet at? Is it in your back pocket? >> It is in my back pocket on my I believe my left-hand side. Hold on. >> Hang on. >> Hold on. Hold on. >> Do you have any sort of weapons on you >> No. No weapons. It's on my left hand It's on my left hand side. >> Okay. All right. You don't have any weapons on you by any chance? >> No. No weapons. No If anything, there might be a pen. >> Okay. >> And that's what there's no writing pen. There's no guns. There's no knives. There's no nothing. And >> Okay. So, what's your first name? Let's start off with that. >> What did I do wrong to pick up my children? >> like to be respectful and address you by your first name. That way I'm Chris is my first name. I'm Deputy Kimberly from the >> What did I do wrong to pick up my children? >> I'm getting ready to explain >> Kimberly, can you just explain I tried to I did explain to just explain to him what the person complained of, which is what I was trying to tell him. >> So, >> Which I did tell him. >> Once again, I'm Deputy Kimberly from the Sheriff's Office, okay? The reason we were called out here today was because somebody feels like you might potentially be intoxicated picking up her children. >> And then they had to stop him. I don't know if that was in the call, but they when they saw somebody said that they was going too fast and they had to slow him down. I was trying to explain that to him. >> Ma'am, I never I never There's >> I know, sir. I was just telling you what the people complained of. >> No, I understand that, but that's what I'm saying. This is >> He said you were illegally riding your bike in here. >> Okay. >> But when he has access to it yeah, so when I asked him for his license >> Well, I never did All I did was and I called earlier to pick up my son and I never even got out the vehicle. I I never even got out the vehicle. I >> You were out of the vehicle when I got here. Was that just to talk to them? Cuz you were standing outside talking to them. >> my daughter she I don't know the age cuz we we pay like seven $600. She comes out She comes out at 2:30. >> Okay. >> My son comes out at 2:45. >> Okay. >> Today is um Wednesday Wednesday and Thursday he gets out later because he has honors choir. >> Okay. >> Today he would have honors choir, but he has a doctor's appointment for his ear infection. >> Okay. >> So I already Before I even reached here, we called the school in advance. >> Okay. >> Hey, hey, hey, we're going to we're going >> No one's arguing that you're here to pick up your children. I told you what the complaint was. >> my mom >> you speeding through the parking lot. >> I would never >> the fact that I'm having a difficult time even having a conversation with you is cuz concerns me if there's anything going on. That's why I asked you, "Sir, did you have anything to drink today?" >> No, ma'am. >> Any narcotics? >> No. >> Any prescription medication? >> No, ma'am. No. >> Are you a diabetic? >> No, and to be honest >> These are These are my concerns if there's you know, just in case there is some >> I promise it was some kind of prescription because when I do get help, I'm >> What do you mean when you do get help? >> No, ma'am. >> All I know is, man, I'm eligible to pick up my son and my daughter. >> Okay. But, let's We understand that. This woman understands that. >> Hold on. >> Go back to when you do get help. Is it What type of Do you have to get prescription medication for something, sir? >> matter because >> matter if you're driving. Yes, sir. >> No, it doesn't. >> Yes, it does matter for your safety and your children's. It absolutely matters. >> not matter. >> the community's safety, it does matter. >> Can I call my my my Can I call my son and my daughter's aunt for them to come and get the children? >> Absolutely. In a minute, not right now. First, I need your ID. First, I need to verify who I'm speaking to. >> No. I No. Hey. >> So, that's not an option. You can't refuse that. >> I'm going to refuse that. Cuz, you know what? I've been here for years, and I have never seen >> Good luck. >> I've I've come here for years. I've My son No disrespect, sir. And again, I have not risen up. I have not done anything to exercise >> your ID. >> You guys never came here and asked nobody else for ID. >> Okay. Sir, this is the way it's going to work, okay? Let me see your ID. Listen to me. I need to >> You came here and asked And guess what? When my little sister came here to pick up my son and my daughter Yes. Yes. They came here She came She came here on two different And I'm not even going to get up because She came here on two different instances and signed her name there. Okay. We've never caused trouble. >> You work at the school as well? Okay. So, I don't know if there's something we can do. It's He's going to He's obviously going, but I have a funny feeling he's going to go with a fight. So, he's going regardless cuz he doesn't want to provide uh his ID to me. He didn't really want to do this in front of his children. Is there any way >> We could get them out. >> bring the kids inside? He's I'm not turning those kids over to him so I can I'll remove them from the car myself. I just don't want to do that. So is there a way we can bring the kids inside? >> Okay, that's all. >> He's going to be going with us. I just >> I don't like >> I know. I know. It's not right. >> All right. So hold on. We'll just keep talking to him. >> You can talk to me while I take the I'm going to turn the car off. >> Hi buddy. >> Our car look Look. >> No. >> She's opening the car illegally. Wait. No. Illegally. >> I'm not going to do that. >> No, I'm not doing nothing. No, I'm not. Sir, I'm not. Sir, I'm Sir, I'm not doing Sir, I'm not doing nothing. Sir, I'm Sir, I'm just simply saying that you guys Sir, I'm not doing nothing. My hands are right here. My hands are right here. >> Hold on. Don't do this in front of the kids. >> Don't do >> I want to talk to you. Talk to you. Hold on a second. Not in front of the kids. Do you hear me? >> I do? >> Stop. >> I My hand I did not >> I didn't do anything. Okay. I'm not going to do that in >> I didn't do anything. Ma'am, I did not do anything. Ma'am, I did not do anything in front of nobody. >> Okay. >> Ma'am, I've been picking up my >> Listen to me. >> I've been picking up >> Stop yelling. >> Stop yelling. >> Listen to me. >> Ma'am, I've been Ma'am, I've Ma'am, I've been taking Ma'am, I'm not even Why are you telling me to relax? >> Because you're you're yelling. >> No, ma'am. I Ma'am, I've been Ma'am, my son is in in in fourth grade. >> Okay, I understand that. >> coming to this school for years. >> that. >> What did What did I do wrong? >> Well, you got multiple things. Obstruction for one. You You don't want to provide your name. You don't want to provide your ID. You don't want to Yeah, we're here for an investigation. You don't want to cooperate. So, you're obstructing an investigation. >> I've never done that, ma'am. >> First off, stop yelling. Stop yelling, okay? >> All right. My concern is that you're impaired, okay? >> Excuse me. Ma'am, no. Can you Can you Wow. Ma'am, I'm not impaired at all. >> I can smell the alcohol coming off you. >> You can smell it on your breath. >> smell it on you. >> Sir, I'm not impaired in no >> that. Do you want to come sit down right here once we get done searching you? >> No, I don't want to sit I mean, I can stand up and speak with you. >> going to have a license, either. Cuz I'm sure you just >> I I can speak and stand up. >> on his bicycle normally, so he's not going to have it. >> So, there's a problem that I come and pick up my children in a car. >> in a car? >> Yeah, probably. >> No, but it it's a problem I come and pick up >> or to central copy blackmail? So, who witnessed him driving in >> Can you tell me what you're talking about? Can I let her in? >> So, basically you have him that was That's something you have him behind the wheel driving. >> Oh, yes. >> Okay. We're going to statement from you. Just let us deal with this and I'll get that from you, okay? >> No. Here are your citizen corrections. >> Yeah, before I sit down call my wife on >> Sit down. >> Sit Before I sit down call my wife on corrections. >> don't you don't bark out orders. Do you understand? >> I'm not barking out orders. I'm barking out my rights. >> You'll You'll You'll have your rights here in a little bit. >> advising me in front of my children's >> Hey. >> classmates and and myself. >> seat, okay? >> No. >> Take a seat, okay? >> I didn't do nothing wrong. I'm not taking a seat. >> You can't step towards my sergeant like that. >> I'm not stepping towards nobody. >> You relax. Sit down. >> Sit down. >> Just sit down. Hey, just sit down. >> I didn't do nothing wrong. >> You're going in the back of the car. >> Why? I didn't do nothing wrong. I didn't do nothing wrong. >> I don't know who this is, but watch him. >> He He works at the school. >> Okay, breathe. >> He works at the school. Yo. >> Sir, he just said he don't know who you are. He about to rush you. >> No. >> What are we doing? >> No, he work He's a He's works at the school. >> Relax. >> Why am I going in the car? >> Hurry up. Where's your keys at? >> No, this is yours. >> What did I do? >> I'm sorry. >> You good. >> What did I do? >> So, you can relax. We're going to use this as >> No, I'm relaxed. What did I do? >> We're going to use this as a breathing >> No, wait. No, wait. What did I do? >> Get in the car. >> What did I do? >> going to ask you again. >> Nah, no. No. No. My wife My wife works directions, and y'all will lose your I didn't do nothing wrong. I'm not sitting in this car. I came to pick up my daughter and my son. What did I do wrong? >> Come on. Get in or we're going to pull you in. Get in the car. >> Y'all Y'all willing to lose your job over this? >> Get in the car. >> Come on. >> So, no? Nope. Listen to me. Listen to me. >> No, the school needs to listen. >> Listen to me. >> This is what Y'all This is what you're going to do to a parent? >> Hey, can you come here for a second? >> This is what you're going to do to a parent? >> Come here. Listen to me. >> This is what you're going to do No. >> Christian, hold on a second. >> No. >> We're going to have somebody help us out. this here. >> I came. No, I'm not doing nothing here. >> Tristan, don't do this here. >> I'm not. >> Don't do this here. >> pick up my daughter and my son. What did you guys come here to do? >> Come here. >> Tristan, come on. Don't do this in front of these kids. >> No, what y'all come to do? No, what y'all Look, look. No. No. No. >> Watch your head. >> Was the stop legal? You're okay to talk contact was a consensual in a counter under Florida to stay in place. Was the gen say in Ewit to send a forward detention of fluid or a triangle predation fosters facial to US the suspicion was there. Was the ID demand lawful? 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Do we have another unit? >> I came to pick up my children. I came to pick up my children. I came to pick up my children. >> You'll be liable. >> I can! Wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, killer. Wait, killer. Wait. Let me ask one question. My wife >> We'll call her. We'll call her. >> No. Call her right now. >> We will, but you got to sit up. >> No. >> You don't sit up, we don't call her. >> Call her before I get in this car. Call her before I get in this car. Call my wife that works in corrections. >> Where does she work at? >> Sully County Corrections. The sheriff Now, pull me out. >> The sheriff's office or the prison? >> She works in the prison, bro. >> Okay, well, we have her on the phone. >> No, no. No. >> He's got his feet >> Oh, he's got his feet jammed in there? >> Yo, y'all going to Yo, what did I do? I didn't do nothing. >> Here. Hang on, his head won't go back. >> Yo, what? >> Hey, sit up. >> No. >> Sit up. >> Wait till my wife get here. >> Oh, we will. >> No, from corrections. >> No, we don't need them. >> No, yeah, you do. Can you please pull me out and pull me out? >> Trinity, sit up for me. >> Please. >> Bend your leg at least. >> My name is not Trinity. >> Okay, whatever. >> No, it's not what My name is not whatever. My name is not whatever. My name is not whatever. >> See, we're going to have to get him sitting up because the way he is >> When Booker gets here This is what we'll do. When Booker gets here we will >> Get out of this >> We'll get out of here. That way we don't have to see him. We'll take him somewhere else. >> So, going to get a statement from her. She is the one that jumped out of the way because he almost hit her. >> Okay. >> She jumped out of the way while she was in the parallel parking >> You just come barreling bellowing down. I was like right about where this silver car is talking or the red truck talking to a parent and And that time. He just He was stomping it coming in to pick his child up. >> Yeah. >> But he was very irrational. Then when he was over here to get his children, he was kind of swaying so I knew I couldn't let him have the children. >> it on him? >> I could I I didn't get close enough to him at that point. >> Ma'am. Ma'am. Ma'am. Ma'am. Ma'am. Ma'am. >> We when we go to take him out of the car, we're going to go somewhere else. >> Okay. >> That way we're not doing it in front of everybody. We are trying not to let it happen like that, but >> Yeah, exactly. >> went south way too fast. And there's honestly >> walking with them. He was definitely >> Yeah, there was nothing we could do. Sorry. I mean >> Oh no, you got to do what you got to do. >> Yeah, I just we were trying not to do it in front of the kids. That's why I like we didn't place handcuffs on him before. So that's all good. >> Are we able to run our pick up line behind you guys or should we wait a little bit? >> No, you can run the pick up line and then we might just have you stop so we can take him >> Okay. >> So we can like go over to the parking lot cuz like I said we're not going to pull him out of that car cuz she's a sergeant. We're not going to pull him out of that car and put him in my car right here in front of everybody and have this happen all over again. >> Okay, got you. Yeah, cuz we're going to have the kids come around the other side so >> Okay. >> So we're good to go. >> Yep. Yep. >> What about the walkers to the parking lot out here? I told you that they said you were driving you were driving too fast through the parking lot. You almost hit someone. >> Ma'am. >> Okay. >> Ma'am. >> you that and you said that we talked about it. >> Ma'am, I promise ma'am I swear on everything I love if I was on a bike, that's what they would say cuz they did it to me already. I don't have the luxury to pick up my children like that all the time. And I've said that to them. I've put my resume into the school to ask them for a job. >> you Why don't you have the luxury of picking them up in a car. >> Car, so keep walking. >> Do you know why? >> No, because I my wife owns a car. I don't own the I don't own a vehicle. >> drive, either. >> No, my wife owns >> You don't drive, either. >> No, my wife owns a >> That's fine. But you said you want to sit here and you want to tell the truth. Well, that's not telling the truth. >> But what Ma'am, I did not >> I'm telling you why you're under arrest, okay? You're under arrest arrest for obstruction. >> Ma'am, I did not do Ma'am, I I'm I'm telling Ma'am >> I asked you for your information. I'm not I'm not going to argue with you, sir. >> Ma'am, I'm I No, I I don't Ma'am, I don't Ma'am, I don't >> to do the community service. >> Ma'am, I don't Ma'am, I don't want you to argue with me. And like you said, you're here for the community service, which meaning you're here for the two children that I have in the school right now, okay? >> Okay. >> There has not been one not Let me tell you, the other situation that has been here filed against me is because I came in this parking lot riding through my bike >> Okay. >> to pick up my children on my bike. I have not done anything >> Did you ride in your bike today? >> No, Ma'am. >> Okay. So, how did you get here today? >> Ma'am, no >> the car that belongs to your wife, right? That's what you said earlier, that that's your wife's car. >> Yeah, but Ma'am, nobody Ma'am, I did not do anything. I did not do anything to to to stop me and my wife's car. I did not do anything. >> I told you I came here, but stand by. I'm not I'm not going to argue with you. >> Ma'am, you don't have to Ma'am, you don't Ma'am, I'm not asking you to argue. >> All right. Is there anything you wish to add, change, or delete from what you have told me? >> Um no. >> Have we discussed anything >> He He was having a very hard time buckling his children in. He, you know, his little girl, she was hollering, "Ow! Ow!" and looking at me. and I I said we we cannot let him take her. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. That was tough until we found >> And you said daughter kept saying ow. >> Yeah, she did. >> Okay. All righty. Anything you wish to add, change, or delete from what we have talked about? >> No, sir. >> Have we talked about anything on tape that we did not discuss off tape? >> No, sir. >> Okay, this concludes the statement. The time is 3:27 p.m. >> Deputy Kimberly receives a C+. The legal basis for the stop and the IDs for communication. She spoke over the subject repeatedly, never clearly stated why he was detained, and allowed an escalation that a cleaner initial explanation would have prevented. The sergeant receives a B- in coordinating the children's custody before completing the arrest was tactically correct. She loses points for a body cam captured private exchange in which the arrest decision appeared finalized before the probable cause explanation was delivered to the subject. Tristan, the subject, receives a B. He remained non-violent, disclosed his wallet location voluntarily, and reasonably requested that his aunt cover's license. After flat refusing to do what was legally required was after being told that converted a wellness check into a five-charge criminal case. The school administrator receives a B+. Calling law enforcement when a parent in a school pickup zone is a defensible safety decision. The deduction is for escalating to a 911 call without a direct medical inquiry first, which might have resolved the situation without an arrest. Every body camera encounter is a legal event, whether anyone recognizes it or not. This footage illustrates five principles that apply to any driver, pedestrian, or officer in a real-world interaction. Lesson one. Consensual encounters become detentions without announcement. When a reasonable person would no longer feel free to leave, constitutional requirements attach immediately, regardless of whether either party says so. Lesson two. Driving creates an obligation pedestrians do not share. Point 15 section is not discretionary. Refusing a lawful license demand is not a protected choice. It is independent criminal exposure added on top of whatever investigation is already in progress. Lesson three, probable cause does not require a formal test. Which license accounts, observed behavior, detected odors, and a subject's own statements each contribute to the totality under Illinois versus Gates. Multiple independent sources of impairment evidence existed here before any test was offered. Lesson four, children in the vehicle are a compounding factor, not a mitigating one. Florida statute section 827 .03 adds a distinct charge with independent sentencing exposure. Their presence deepens the legal picture, it does not soften it. Lesson five, office officer communication a legal function. When a subject cannot understand why they have requires, confusion escalates into confrontation. One clear articulation of the legal basis for detention is both constitutionally correct and the most effective de-escalation available. The result was 64 days in jail across five charges. A wellness check generated obstruction, impaired driving with children produced neglect. The law builds in sequence, and this footage is a precise illustration of how that sequence operates. If this breakdown clarified how constitutional law operates in real interactions, share it with someone who would find it useful. 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