Is that your real hair? Sir, I'm Sergeant Grimes, War of Police. Yes. Need you to come back in the office with me. Okay. Do you have any weapons on you? No. Not at all. No. No guns. Okay. All right. Okay. Right back here. have one right right here. Sit right there. All right. You're here to get what? An ID. Okay. For who? For me. Okay. What's your name? Do you have anything on you that identify? I have my birth certificate. Okay. I have a W2. Okay. All right. Can I see the birth certificate? Okay. Good. Where you live now? Over on the west side. What city and state were you born in? You know your social security number? Yep. Go ahead. Am I supposed to give it to you? I mean, yeah. Okay. All right. Reason that we are here is information that we're getting with the social security number you provided is for a deceased person. I have to look it up. I should be for as much of a drug as I was back in the day. Okay. Um they brought me back more than once with Narcan, but there shouldn't have been a death certificate. Absolutely. I agree with you there. I have my uh associate back in the office sending me the full record. Um, with your prior in the past history of uh drug abuse, were you ever arrested, jailed, uh, like books, fingerprint photographs taken? Uh, not all the way. No. No. Okay. Interesting. But you were that much of a user, but you never had any contact with law enforcement where you were arrested, huh? I was I I don't know if you want to call it lucky or unlucky. Okay. Um, with that hair, I'm having trouble seeing your eyes. Your eye color. Okay. When's the last time you had an ID or license in Ohio? Oh, it's been over 10 years. So, where have you been up to now? Where have I been? Yeah. Where you been staying? I've been staying with I mean, I just moved back to the area like four or five months ago. Where were you then? Got a job just doing general contracting. Where were you before? Okay. Okay. Do you have any tattoos? I do not. Any scars over No. 3 in long? Not really. No. No. Okay. Is that your real hair? No. Okay. Why would you come to the B&B with a wig on to get an ID made? Do I have the right to wear whatever I want to wear? I'm just saying if I'm going to go get an ID made, it's going to be of my like and it's not. I I always dress like this and appear like this. Interesting. Changed it while I was in I have I have three credit cards in my service ID, but does that information on the social have a date for deceased? 4115 shows a tattoo on his right shoulder. All right. You need to take your coat off for me. I don't I'm not going to comply with that. Oh, you're not? Right. Okay. All right. We're doing an investigation here. You understand that, right? Okay. So, why would you not want to show me your right to order? I mean, as soon as you guys hold me back here, I you remember an attorney friend of mine and another top friend of mine. He said, "Just don't ever answer any questions or cooperate at all." So, okay. I feel like I've cooperated enough. I'm willing to cooperate. Let me get my cruiser closer. I'm going to run that information. History. Okay. Right. He can't even say that he's a different Yeah, cuz because he's presenting himself by social the guy. Yeah. So I think we have more than enough to uh in our world to think if this would have been processed we would hit him with identifying records. Yeah. At the minimum. Right. I mean he's he's attempted identity. Plus not to mention possession of criminals. I think we have more than enough probable cause to make that arrest right here in front of you. Okay. I'm Sergeant Patton with the Borman Police Department. Right now you're being placed under arrest. Before answering any questions, you must understand what rights are guaranteed to you by the Constitution of the United States. You may refuse to answer any questions for anything that you say may be used either for or against you in the event that this case come to trial. You have the right to have an attorney present before and during the time of questioning. If you cannot afford the services of an attorney, one must be provided for you. If you desire an attorney, there can be no questioning until the attorney is present. If you do consent to answer any questions without the presence of an attorney. Do you understand those rights? I don't answer questions. Okay. You going to tell me your name or are you going to be John Doe in the county? I don't answer questions. Okay. John Doe sit for a long time. Yeah. Do you have any weapons on you? I don't answer questions. All right. Fair enough. So that we are on the same page. You are refusing to tell me your name. Correct. I don't answer questions. Okay. Just making sure. I think attempted I think you look better without the wig, man. Attempted tampering with records. Sorry. Yes. This ID. I don't even know if this is him with his name on because he This says he's 5'7. Well, there's your other answer. He's got a different ID, too. This is going to be a long day. Yeah, he's drawn up. He is John though. I would say Here's the thing though. If he would have succeeded with this one, he would have gotten an ID that would have got with that other guy's information and that his photo anyway. So, I'm going to have to go back and figure out who these other IDs actually are. Do we think this is him? Do we know 68? Well, no, cuz that one's 5'7. So, we're going to say no. This one's more likely, but go back to the office and figure it out. 207. This one's the 68 with blue eyes. Neil Richard Kennedy. This is the second ID that you found. 68. He's tied up right now. 2019. Could be. He's tall. Copy. Is he Neil Kennedy? You want to run this one? This is the second ID they found. Copy. So, we don't know. We don't know if any of this exists. How many cell phones do we have in here? Uh quite quite a few. Got uh another one right here. This one was issued in Lawrence County. Okay. This one was issued here. Not quite sure how you think that I got a different person's photograph on an ID if I was I know exactly how you did it, but uh it's exactly what you were trying to do right here. Yeah, the question of how you would get your face on somebody else's ID. See, this is what I do for a living. So, why are you in possession of this ID then? I have a power of attorney for that person. Full power of attorney. Hey, did you um pitch uh Neil Kennedy for OVI? Big tall guy. Big tall guy. Okay, I'm going to send you a picture. Tell me if it's him. All right. All right. Hey, we have his driver's license photo. What phone do you want that sent to? I have his uh driver's license in front of me and was wanting to know if we had a booking photo from last time. Okay. We didn't see a booking photo. Pretty um amazing that you can get a burst took in 2020 on a guy that died in 2015. Does that male the one from the scooter the other day? Yeah, affirmative. I think 2033 was out with him at another point. I don't know if he ended up logging his O. I don't know if it was a DAB or a crash, but he was out with a missing over. 2011 2019 uh 2045 about is positive 100%. We want him booked under Neil Kennedy. Ricky's 100% sure it's now the fingerprints I'm assuming are going to match from his uh OVI back in have Glenn reach out. Let me know for sure. Okay. That way I don't chase my tail too far. That's aggravating. But at least we're not fighting with the guy. You know what I mean? I understand he's got to do what he's got to do, what he thinks he needs to do. But yeah, I get it. As long as you're not an complete idiot, but that's, you know, wants to fight, then me. Yeah. No, I'd rather not tussle in a small space. Yes. I've never been ination in my life somehow. Well, let's keep it that way. Your pipes probably got a lot to do with it. You guys are like I ain't going to find this guy. Pick on something easier, I guess. Go ahead. So, hypothetically, this guy's traveling on ramp with a motor home with no plates. Comes in, tries to get a dead guy's ID, a guy who's been dead since 15. Got a birth certificate for him in 2020. Yes. Even though the dude's been dead, right, for 5 years, they didn't have a birth certificate. So, are we sure that we even processed him under the right name? That was kind of why I told Robbie, "Leave it as Okay." That however you want to do it. Thought. Yeah. Just But I mean, when they do print them, he should have been printed for the OVI back then. We Yeah, that's true. We only started that, right? Yeah. And I wonder how many other names could come up because I don't think this is that was the only reason I told him to continue on. All right, sounds good. So just keep all the IDs, even Neil Kennedy's and all that. I would say we can always return. Yeah, cuz to me that does not look like him. But I mean, issued n September 2022. Yeah, that's his old one. Yeah, that's this one. I just don't You know what I mean? Right. Figure what's in here, right? This one. Yeah. So, there's an RV out there with no plans and a scooter with He was using the scooter. Okay. Yeah. I'll give you a hand. Where? I don't know. Here. Let's get him out to the car. Yeah. That's your side as well. This is going to be fun.