hi there offer Barker um was it like physical cash or was it all of all the money or just part of it cuz I'm assuming when you said that they came to your house it was Cash well it's better if I go step by step sure sure I'll let you start from the beginning so anyway yesterday I was on my iPad which I have here okay you sure didn't want to sit that's s right kind of makes me nervous no you're all right and so um this thing comes up from Apple support on your phone on my iPad your iPad okay and it said that you know your iPad your phone your financial institute has all been compromized okay so call this number and I did and I talked to this black Dawson which sounds like an artifici fictitious name you I got the number that I called was it like a was it like just a Southern accent normal accent they all had accent except for one what kind of accent do you know like um one had an English accent one was like maybe Hindu Indian okay the the girl I talked to was had regular normal English accent okay um so you got transferred around a few times on the phone then for yesterday I was on the phone with them for8 hours today I was on the phone with them from 10: until they picked up the money at 5:30 so they I've got the number that they had Supply secure line um which was an Alabama number and so I've got his name I've got his supposedly Apple ID number the FCC I got it they gave me I talked to FCC through the secure web phone number with them and then I talked to Wells farro fraud and Adam Jones and another one and these were all people that they transferred you to you never actually all through Apple you okay yep no numbers Department of Treasury everything was through the that number gotcha okay and um so anyway it starts out you know the the guy from Apple said well you know there's a charge for 999999 to a porno child porno website in China MH and do you know that you can go to prison for that I said I didn't do it you know so anyway they they' got me talking to all these people and so the one guy from Wells Fargo said okay this is what you got to do you got to go to the bank get the 30 gr we're going to do a duplic transfer to cancel that out and um so then you won't be responsible for it like that all right you know I've got the address of where I went to the it was a the Chevron station I've got all that information I did it and then they called me back at 10: this morning okay I was I Ted to the um Department of Treasury so so there were two separate transactions on your end so 30,000 yesterday so and they were both cash yes okay and they picked up all of it today the 30 went in the bitcom machine last night bitc like a Bitcoin machine yeah Bitcoin whatever and then they had you transfer the Bitcoin somewhere okay well I've got it where it was transferred to I took happened to take a picture okay which you know I should have known something was wrong then but I you know they kept I mean they they were good let me tell you they these this these people are good so you said 30,000 I'm seeing yeah well I that's when I took the picture when he said it's going here I know that's not the amount that I gave them but I just wanted to get that address of where was supposed to be they sent me stuff on my phone like the a QR scan thing that I had to hold up there if it's I I'm afraid to even touch my phone you can have that oh that's okay it'd probably be easier if I just took a picture of it it there's just one there yeah um so back to the original um popup on your iPad what what exactly were you doing on your iPad were you on like a fraudulent site or did it just pop no I just went to walmart.com I was trying to find a bed spread okay and then soon as I hit that it that popped up another CH for this one how's it going man' good good I'm detective bar with the okal police department okay what's your name par par yes is that what you want me to call you all right so what what would you like to tell me about today I don't know very first why I was like detained you don't no okay you have no idea why you were Det were just visiting Okala uhhuh and we were just supposed to go back home what were you doing visiting Okala just for FR what we don't have nothing reason for coming up toala no so how did you get to the address that you showed up at today we were just moving from over there and the police cops they just put the lights on us so we have to stop by you were moving you were moving from where you you ended up on a dead end road so that was we figured out yeah we were we were just going come back okay who were you on the phone with when I was at your door was my friend in India okay or for what who just calling me they scam people for money I don't know yeah you do I really we're not going to play the dude I know exactly you we you think that we just happened to watch you pull up to that house for no reason I really don't think any idea what you're talking about you think that all those cop cars just happen to be by that house for no reason I figured out something was wrong because not all like five six cars going to come and jump us to us all the way you yeah cuz you knew where you were going you knew exactly where you were going and you knew that you were going to get money from a scam and that's probably where you're going to work for a motel probably 3,000 bull because where the house is that is off of a side Road off of a side road there no way got there you told us you came to Okala to just come turn around and go to CIT Springs visit friends you just got here when we stopped you that that where you were at I to do with any scamers there's people in ocal that don't even know how to get there let Al somebody my background check anything so what happens when I dump your phone and I get everything off your phone everybody you've talked to every address you've searched I'm not going to find that address probably no yeah I probably am I'm probably going to find that address exactly right you're better off telling me the truth cuz you sit here and lie it doesn't look good for you and I know you're lying I don't know what talking about I I don't have no connections with no scammer I myself study I take a part-time classes too MH work myself live by myself MH 3,000 3,000 no I'm a br holder okay how long have you been here uh six years so is it worth it to lose that and get sent back no okay so maybe you should be honest probably I'm being honest because I have nothing to do with any scammers okay so when I go on your phone I'm not going to see that address in your phone that should not be in your phone cuz you didn't know that that house right I didn't knew that house okay so there's no reason so there's no reason you should have been there right and there's no reason that address should be in your phone right probably right so let's be honest you going to throw your friend under the bus or are you going to be honest I'm going to be honest go let's let's hear it I was over there but I have no reason to cope with the scammers sir I thought you said you were going to be honest yeah I'm honest I was there mhm but not not for the scam how did you get that address my that my friend who I was talking about he gave me that address and and what did he tell you you were just go go over there stay in your car and wait for somebody to come outside so you knew you were picking something up but I didn't knew it's a scam money okay but I mean think about it you're you're not a stupid guy you're you're smarter than that honestly I'm been trapped in this okay how many times have you done this never before never before before this is your first time every criminal says that it's crazy they've never done it it's always the first time that they get caught you wouldn't believe it I'm I'm like my work done you've lied to me the whole time and you've decided to be honest in the past 30 seconds so I'm not going to believe everything you say and I can tell when you're lying right so we can save our both some time here and quit bullshitting I never done this before I was first time here very first time you've ever yes what how do you know this friend from India or is it an you actually know them no you don't how do you know how did you get in contact one of my common friend he's in India uhuh he so you have a friend in India that knows this guy yeah okay that linked you up with him so what that linked you up with him yeah so after you got this package that you allegedly didn't know what it was going to be what were you supposed to do with it I don't know because he was supposed to be called me back again so you you don't know what you're no but he told me just go there mhm collect the stuff and I'll call you back what to do with this okay and you claim you've never been to Okala before no and I wouldn't be coming back anymore no cuz you're going to jail for what you were coming to pick up $50,000 I really don't know about doesn't matter you got ignorance is not above the law there's nothing I can be out of it because I really don't know these guys well you might as well tell me what you do know what's the phone number for this person in India is in my phone I what are they saved as uh it's not saved but I know what it is you know what it starts with were they the last person you talk to on your phone uh usually he says his name is ow I saw a name on your phone yeah so it's saved as a contact no there was a name it's a default name coming up through the WhatsApp because I haven't save WhatsApp yeah okay I got you all right give us a few sir try to get me out of from this because I don't want to get into TR all right so couple things um you just what were you doing in New Jersey I was just visiting my family you have family up there yeah how long have they been there I mean I was supposed to go to Baltimore I mean I stayed at Baltimore for a night and then went to New Jersey okay how often do you work at days in so at me yeah I'm working since like one and a half year no but how often do you work do you work like five days a week six days a week days a we six days a week how much do you get paid it's like $12 an hour $12 an hour okay so you have like just under $3,000 of cash on your pocket yeah where'd you get all that from that's my money I have to deposit tomorrow into bank from where that's my salary where I got it that's a lot of money that boss paid me for cash for how long of work at 12 huh probably a month a month you only get paid once a month I mean twice a month okay every every other 15 days that's a lot of money for $12 an hour where'd you get that some where did you get the money that's not the money anything connected to this that's my own money sir you have a bank account yeah how much money is in your bank account probably right now my tret account got like 200 or 300 and my Chase account got like, 1400 okay so I'm going to ask you again how many times have you done this I never done this I I really I'm really honest to it so when you said I don't want to ruin my life sir I'll be true on it so even I didn't knew that I'm picking up the scammers money today mhm so why would you pick up a package for some guy in India that you don't even know who it is my friend told me can just do this favor to him when when did your friend tell you that I mean he told me like the day before yesterday evening when he called me and then this guy contacted me today your friend told you a day or two ago yeah what he what did he say my friend needs a help to pick up a package you know from Florida so I said okay but I I said where it is he said Okala then he sended me this address the guy in the morning he sended me this address so aside from today you've never talked to this guy before no you had no idea what time you were leaving today he called me in the morning then he told me that I'll call you back after 2:00 he called me can you go now I said okay I'm free today then I ran to get a rental I'll be honest with you dude I don't believe you you work for $12 an hour you have over four five grand to your name you've done this before and you get a cut you get a cut of it I I'm here since 6 years working in the stores working this driving Uber lift everything mhm they kep none of those are high paying jobs but still it's surviving jobs sure where do you live at the day in yeah how much do you pay to live there nothing oh you live for free yeah okay all right