this is him I was stred on top of him like this okay and uh he couldn't fight back it was actually surprisingly easy he was saying what are you doing what are you doing why and I just kept on stabbing his neck I was so excited so rushed up on adrenaline there gu this is Brian kohi the 19-year-old with a troubled past and various mental disorders while being interviewed by investigators kohi reportedly admitted to killing and decapitating a homeless man and the Mesa County coroner's office identified the victim earlier that month as 69-year-old Warren Barnes during police questioning Brian casually boasted about his lifelong fascination with death and morbidity but particularly chilling is the manner in which he described his act I cut open his belly to see his guts they really pink sorry that was morbit I tossed the arm bits around like I took the right arm bit threw it out took the left arm B and then I took the head put it in a leftover box I always wanted to know what it felt like to cut up someone it was just curiosity more or less on March 1st 2021 Brian kohe was arrested in Colorado after a bag containing human remains was found at a local address a call was made from someone who said they had found what they believed to be human remains inside a plastic bag at a home the department then conducted multiple searches and human remains were found at one of the searched locations police said kohi was associated with one of the searched addresses and was taken into custody for questioning it was later determined that kohi had killed Barnes on February 27th the way he did it and why will send chills down your spine and how did you get here I murdered someone okay to start back at the beginning and go slow and tell me with many details as you can remember so cuz I mean muray going to jail for the 15 years probably I have no idea because we're at the beginning it's murder I mean I'm going to jail for okay 20 probably but um I am in a bad State of Mind at that time I am I have major depressive disorder so I am not thinking say positively okay and Brian before you start you say you have a major depressive disorder I'm just curious what those are lastly I have several I have high functioning aspirators okay I have ADHD a major depressive disorder at the very beginning of the interrogation Brian displays acknowledgment of the crime and the potential consequences which indicates a level of self-awareness however that is opposing with his inappropriate emotional response making the situation even more perplexing and disturbing his disclosure of having high functioning Asperger syndrome or ASD as well as ADHD and major depressive disorder provides some context though it doesn't excuse or entirely explain the alleged violent Behavior so what's important to me is to learn as much about you and what you did and as I can well as many details as you can give me the better yeah there's a road underneath right uhhuh under the overath and I was driving along and I see a shape here on the railway tracks so I'm like oh interesting okay and I'm like that's a homeless person so I grabb my knife I put on three layers of gloves what are you worried about I mean this looks like it's pretty close to the road and stuff somebody seeing you it was 11:00 p.m. so not many were driving by so were you worried about him seeing you I was worried about one of them stopping what you think it happen if somebody well if they looked well it was quite dark under there so they wouldn't have seen the guy they will be um they would have seen me holding a bloody 12in knife wearing gloves and wearing a mask to conceal my identity face mask okay so you weren't doing it for Co you were doing it hide and face um partially dist his approach to the interrogation might be a coping mechanism or defense strategy by being upfront and seemingly casual he could be trying to control the narrative deflect the intensity of the situation or perhaps even attempting to manipulate the perception of his mental state the officer had by now realized that he was dealing with an extremely dangerous individual with serious issues he observed that the killer enjoyed boasting and discussing his crime so he allowed him to speak freely only interjecting with brief questions everything was proceeding relatively smoothly and Brian began delving into the details of his crime it seemed like the officer would quickly conclude his questioning but what followed was a shock that left him utterly speechless I took the knife I pulled back the canvas and I stabbed his neck he was panicking at first in his old man's voice he was in his 50s I'm not Li I know why I call an old man he was saying what are you doing what are you doing why why and I just kept on stabbing his neck I was this is okay if I do a demonstration oh yeah this is him I was stred on top of him like this okay and uh he couldn't fight back it was actually surprisingly easy I was barely breaking the sweat I thought Hess guy he's going to be tough but no it was actually surprisingly easy and during the time I was growl and making animalistic noises but why were you doing that I suppose it was a frenzy I was so excited so Rush Stu on friend okay and um I paused and he said why are you doing this and I and I said I've been wanting to do this for a long time I all the while no actually after I killed him I just stop saying sticky dirty dirty sticky sticky wasn't I wasn't smelling anything but from more re I don't know okay and then after that I stripped his clothes I cut open his belly to see his guts they're really pink sry that was morbid then I cut off his head I gave him a glassco smile what's that a joker smile I I destroyed his eyes by stabbing them okay and then I cut off his hands I put those in plastic Ziplock bags and then I cut off his right arm at this joint okay and at this joint and then at this arm I tried cutting it here and then I tried cutting it here but what happened was uh I accidentally broke his bone this one it was poking out okay and so I left that one here partially cut dismembered here bone sticking out and then I left his body there and then I took the head put it in a leftover pie box from few night to some individuals commit heinous acts as a way to Garner attention whether negative or positive bragging about the crime might be a continuation of this need for acknowledgement they might see the act as an accomplishment or something that set sets them apart from others Brian's calm demeanor laughter and seemingly friendly behavior during the interrogation especially given the gravity of his crime suggest a level of emotional Detachment or disconnection from the situation people with ASD can sometimes have difficulty understanding or expressing emotions in the same way neurotypical individuals do while it is a spectrum and experiences can VAR widely it's essential to note that ASD alone does not make someone violent while depression can lead to a variety of Behavioral changes extreme violence as described in the scenario isn't a typical manifestation however it's possible that profound feelings of hopelessness anger or despair could play a role in the individual's actions or perceptions Brian continued to describe his crime in detail providing investigators with everything they needed for their investigation actually he gave them more than they wanted to know I was thinking about taking out his heart I was poing to maybe keep a finger you haven't got that far yet no you think you stabbed him anywhere besides I know you said the neck a lot of times how many times do you think did you count him no I was going to P St and here's where my car was parked you're going his corpses here you're going to want a crime scene that's roughly to the tracks cuz they're right here hid the hands and head in my room clean the knife s away the garbage with with the blood on it our washing machine put it on high speed so it would effectively remove the blood wash it twice I take his body out I put it in the water and because I don't want fingerprints on a body so you cut him open did you cut his arms off his hands off all that before you went home yeah before I went home I tossed the arm bits around like I took the right arm bit threw it out took the left arm bit threw it out whip somewhere around that bridge yeah thank you for the walk by the way sure do you need more I will take another please you know um let me go get one okay I hope I'm being cooperative oh you're doing great the head I because it was starting to stink I was planning on throwing the head and hands away I'm sorry I just want to make sure I have it right the head is inside of a trash bag it was well where is it now in the kitchen sink my parents searched through my room and they found the head and hands on February 27th after selecting a victim and committing a heinous crime Brian who was wearing a blue jumpsuit with a mask and gloves took parts of the victim back to his house and hid them in a closet he meticulously described how he carefully wiped away any traces that might link him to the murder after doing so he traveled back to the crime scene and loaded up other remains of the victim VI him into the trunk of his car and then went to dispose of those parts in the river at a local boat ramp on March 1st local authorities received a call from a reporting party that possible human remains had been found in koh's closet upon arrival Mesa County Sheriff deputies confirmed that they were in fact human remains and while on scene deputies say that koe immediately admitted that he killed a man now comes the final part where he explains his reasons and motivations behind his actions I always knew I would be in this building whether it was as a criminal or police officer I'm not a serial killer about now I always wanted to know what it felt like to cut up someone okay so the so why did you stop what you stop cuz the arms were just that's it that's all I wanted to know was was like cutting off the lens and I'm just like okay okay and you you talked about you were just kind of in a bad space that night it was yes okay why were you in a bad space I didn't take my medicine um and plus for years I was wondering what murder would feel like because like Ted Bundy in the Zodiac they all say murder is the best human in the world so I'm like I'm going to try that so how long have you been planning or looking for someone to do this with before you found this guy about a year about a year no 6 months do you know who the person was that you killed I know um you said you've thought about doing this for the last six months a year yeah um have you ever done it before no okay you got to ask right yeah how about animals have you practiced on anything yes pretty big stuff tell us about that it was 2018 Halloween uh a stray black cat had been coming around our house this was before I moved into my mom's this was at my dad's um and and I was thinking about killing him I then hit the body in the shoe box and then I disposed in the trash and got away with it that cat did you keep them for a while like you did this guy or I kept it for 3 days then it started to stink there's a there's a three rule for bodies I like to call it the three rule okay tell me about that three days the body starts to stink No 3 hours rigor Mor sets in body stiffens 3 days the body starts to stink because of deep composition 3 weeks the body is starting to seriously decomposed right great 3 months the body is unrecognizable 3 years it turns into a skeleton and may ask how you know that I just I've always had a fascination with forensics and with anatomy of physiology that's something I made up if I go back that night probably wouldn't have done it knowing that knowing what's it felt like knowing how this W turn out I wouldn't have done it well what did you think it was going to feel like what did you you know you said you were curious what did you think it was going to feel like I thought it would be the best feeling in the world in summary the suspect's behavior and statements reveal a potential mixture of narcissism a lack of empathy a desire for control and a profound Detachment from societal norms and emotions such a combination can be seen in individuals with severe antisocial Tendencies or disorders in the end a jury found Brian kohi guilty of first-degree murder during his trial kohi pleaded Not Guilty by insanity he was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole