[Music] 5 40 I've got the RP inside I got the got the white vehicle here how you doing sir's up officer G State Police who are you with do you have your identification card everything I sorry to bother you but this guy's been following me and R this okay so I understand you were slowing traffic down on the highway no you sure about that 100% Can you go and pull that out please how you doing sir good what's your name in charge I'm in Sergeant okay what's your name sir s okay sir I was told that you were using your car like you were a police officer well you should have showed it right you're in my truck I told you to show it in your truck you're on private property right now you have your driver's license sir I'm not giving it you have that okay well I'm in charge of this right now okay we're in charge of what I'm charge of this property and other properties okay and that's fine but over there on the highway where you lit up cars and you were using your car like a police car there's no proof okay hear me out I'm investigating something right and if you refuse to give me your driver's license I can detain you and arrest you okay detain me then okay turn around no no don't resist resist man hey knock it off go I haven't done anything wrong don't don't do it knock it off anything wrong well then why are you resisting now you're resisting arrest now you're resisting could have just gave me your ID I gave you ID could have given me your driver's license I understand that okay all right let you know do me a favor you have any other weapons on you m okay you got Max any other weapons sir ma is that recording yes excellent is it recording on the highway all right cuz I get to hear my post okay don't move there's nothing in there I have nothing else I still got to check here without gloves yeah I don't care what you got in where do you keep your cup got cuffs where you C the cup they're on Myck I mean this could have gone a lot easier man it was easier I gave you my ID and that's who I was I asked for your driver's license you refused yes sir cuz I didn't break the law yes sir no sir I didn't okay well I was investigating you breaking the law okay but that's still not breaking the law right nothing else all right do me a favor have a seat here on the sidewalk no I don't want to sit I'd rather just stand I'll be well you could sit in the back of a car on the sidewalk I'll be sitting here okay down sit down or in the back of a car wait can you pick one can you two back of a car or right here can you fix this one real fast my left on my phone just a little bit handcuffs are not meant to be comfortable man I know do you want to sit on the sidewalk or in the back of a unit how about if I lean against the unit you can sit on the sidewalk or in the back of a unit how if I just lean on a unit all right back of the UN have a bad back from Iraq we'll be gentle you go be gentle all right okay have a seat all right where can I get your driver's license it's in my wallet where's your wallet yeah I got it you it on the floor have a seat I don't know why you want to argue with I'm not man I didn't light up [ __ ] he has no proof I didn't light up anything I was coming to work every time I come to work I [ __ ] clock in right here 516 that's all I do watch New Mexico o please he literally pulled over our captain no well he was trying to Captain was on the highway and this guy was lighting him up like hey don't don't pass me I'm a police officer he's got no plate on his car and looks like he was trying to run away from Captain after he identified himself as a police officer look he was backing up as as Galo pulled in let me talk to Captain so yeah yeah well uh he refused to give us his ID I told him if he didn't give us an ID he said I didn't commit a crime said uh well you know we're investigating a crime you impersonating a police officer and he says I'm not going to give you my driver's license he did give me his his ID like his security guard ID and said I need your driver's license he says I'm not going to give it to you and I said if you don't give it to me I'm going to detain you and he said then detain me um that's where that and he's pulling away whatever can articulate resisting but um I don't know if we're going to be at that point I will say though you did identify yourself as a police officer and he was pulling out when so he came up so whenever he he was over there and I was just like I was sure like I didn't want to make him like obviously I was tailing him all the way around the building so he knew I was following him and it was like once he got out over here he was way over there I stayed right here that way he was obvious distance well he comes up and whenever he comes up in front of me he turns on his lights again and so I go to get out when whenever I get out his window's up the dog window is down just that intimidation Factor he wants the dog to be going off at me MH and that's whenever uh he roll down the window I told them hey man stop whatever and then like I told them hey man the Mexico State Police that's whenever I identified myself and he said show me your badge it's in my truck y I can't get it right now like I'm letting you know verbally I am New Mexico State Police go and stop and said I don't care I don't care and that's whenever I stepped in front of his car and he goes to start backing up in in the hole um he goes to continue to back up tell him just stop I have the state police officers on the way they're coming right now and he refused refused refused but the biggest issue is like he's and that was his whole thing I'm on private Pary the interstate wasn't private property you did that on private or on the state highway and that's where I kept telling him and he referred to and he said he owns this like dude I don't care like that was the inter state um so traffic backed up he's causing a back up because he's staying in the left hand lane right at like 64 65 is and I go to pass him on the right as soon as I go to pass him he turns on all of his lights and that's whenever I see for the first time he has blue lights uh in his front visor and then so my initial reaction because I was like bumper to bumper pretty much back bumper to front bumper is I hit my brakes and go to co but as soon as I do that he shuts them all off like okay this dude isn't legit because he didn't have a plate in the first place yeah it was plates in the door if you noticed that it's hanging out well I'm going to run that in a second I just saw it on the door yeah so as soon as he does that then I back up that's whenever I just stayed behind him the whole way and he once uh he realized I was staying behind him and there was you can't even see I was tail getting them there was a black vehicle in between of us in between us and he hits the lights again like that's whenever I can clearly see that the back window it's not tinted it's just dirty as help probably from the dog and that's whenever I see the red lights in the back and then he turns them off like multiple times he's just like using that his lights as like back away from me type of thing like we do yeah okay anything else nope so he started following me and started [ __ ] getting close and getting close I asked him to show his ID he refused to show his ID and so I started backing up I don't know what his problem is but he followed me he tailgated me and he decided to call you guys that's it okay so when he started coming up towards me then I went towards him and saw what the problem is because you didn't know he didn't identify himself he didn't show his badge he's shaking that was it nothing more I had nothing to worry about so I backed up and so when I was when you guys stopped me I I was I didn't do [ __ ] wrong it's just that when you asked for my ID I haven't done anything wrong so that's why you're you're you're in detainment we're talking to you we're completing an investigation we advised you we're completing an investigation at that point you are obligated to provide in yes you are stayed now as a PO officer you should know that I do but that's if I did something wrong though so I had a guy we we didn't ACC anything we we no we simply stated we were completing an investigation right we had just started we need to identify who you are and that is well I apologize then and I so yeah so then when you refuse my sergeant did advise you you'll go in cups right that's good at which point now you're in cups so that's where we're at right now so this guy so as not saying that he's an officer of any kind and he's shaking really bad he doesn't show his badge he says it's in his vehicle I'm like okay well go get it he's like I refuse I'm not going to get it I'm telling you who I'm are hey you know what he could have he could have easily walked up to his vehic your radio does that can connect to you do you guys have your own personal dispatch or you okay yeah yeah could you call the backup call for no because right now there's only me coming in early are you scheduled to work today I am so is there anybody at your Dispatch Center right now no there's U I guess like a lieutenant of Duty or whoever knows okay okay you understand the whole issue right and you understand completely who I am well you didn't show me your badge yeah that's it make a difference yeah right now is what I'm saying you understand who I am and why I'm talking to you right now versus a normal victim would be over there standing there completely so do you understand who I am now once you show me your badge okay who I well not your badge okay who am I were your um State Police now yes but you didn't show that prior I didn't all right yeah so we're good that's that's not not necessarily good but you know you understand the issue and like I said the reason as I'm talking to you right now I want you to understand who I am okay and you're obviously detained okay so I am the captain of New Mexico State Police in aluer okay okay so so you're 100% crystal clear my name is the issue behind all of this is like you acted in a way that made me think that you were Burn Leo County Sheriff's Department whenever you were in on the highway that's the problem so whenever I got so when I got to the right your right front headlight you turn on your lights and tried to stop me okay that's how I felt that's why I immedi that's how why I immediately mooved to the right and then you shut him off so I'm like okay this is weird number one dude doesn't have a license plate and now he's turning his lights on at me that's why I contacted uh the on Duty Officers the on duty okay so and then you continue to do this little evasive thing there's no evasive I'm not being evasive this is my this is my patrol your presence here the way you're dressed your vehicle all of that on private property just like you said you own this property this private property absolutely valid again going back to the interstate why did you turn on your lights on me I didn't turn on your lights on you turn on your blue front lights whenever I went to your right front I didn't how did I know they were blue I don't know okay cool there's there's [ __ ] all in there so I don't know if I did I didn't know what you're doing right now okay by trying to as far as what as far as lying okay so by oh I didn't turn on my lights okay so now number one you're doing is you're trying to make me out to be a liar with I'm not trying to make out to be a liar just let me finish okay so what's going to happen so what do you want me to say I turned on the lights we're I want you to be honest I don't know I turn on the lights because because I have [ __ ] all on there it's no different than sometimes my mic coming on by me Bing so you know what I'm not g I'm not playing any game I'm not playing any game I would lie I I wouldn't lie at all just wouldn't lie I have no reason to lie I have nothing to lose you know what I mean well actually I do have a lot to lose if I lie you do but yeah because you're impersonating a police officer and you understand whenever you take your oath and whenever you you are can you take your off it's obviously making him extremely uncomfortable I don't think a threat put this hand on your head when I take it off relax look if they came on then I apologize but a lot of times I don't know that is coming out if you look at it it's in the center man you're putting your inte in the trash bro I'm I'm not trying to put Integrity I'm very I have integrity so you want me just to say own up to say honest because this this crap about accidentally like I hit him bro I've been doing this for 22 22 years man 22 years so the whole of I accidentally turned on my lights it doesn't apply and whenever you try and Associate it to a mic that you can hit with your chin like it it silly because I've hit my mic okay I've hit my mic a million different times but okay go ahead that's completely different from whenever you reach down with your hand it's probably on your console someplace down here where's your red light it's in the center next to where my cup is okay so so the fact that you turn them on at the exact time that I get to the right front to pass you and make me believe that with that positioning you're stopping me and then all of a sudden they turn off whenever I go to pull over whenever I'm like because they okay so I I'll tell you so when I hit the lights can I show you as long as you don't okay I'm not going to sit here and lie can I show you yeah let's show me just what I'm saying is don't release your dogs cuz the last thing that I want is my ERS to have to shoot your dog there any uh weapons in the vehicle so I move this and when I'm driving I try this thing rolls so I try it hit it's not the only time it happens because I put my giant sometimes it hit and then I got to turn my [ __ ] off even when I'm here I'm not n hey take a picture of this console no man take a picture of the console please just I have you know I'm retired have a reason to because you turning on your lights on the interstate versus you turning on your lights here two different things two completely one you're impersonating police offic one you're not so that's your reason to lie and it's okay like you can continue to do it it's just part of our job we deal with people all the time that choose to take that choose to take this position whether it's this one or this one okay and kind of touch cross that line do I understand it are you trying to control the flow of traffic just like you're trying to control crime here I understand it but you don't have the legal authority to do it it is problem I do not so that that is why you understand that and why you would like but like I said how all this plays out in the long term depends determined is determined by your actions your statements everything like that and you can admit it we can deal with it like move on or you can continue to play this little game of accidental cup cup hit it and whatever but it's okay I'm not trying to play a game if you want me to admit it then I'll admit it I want you to I want you to tell you speak the truth I am speaking the truth okay okay okay do you have any questions for me I have no questions sir okay do you have any questions for these officers you guys okay so I have some stuff um hey man next time law enforcement comes up to you have you ever been a police officer well I was an LA County Sheriff for 18 months and I quit cuz I didn't want to do jail time and I only had a few months left to retire from the Army cuz the last 14 years I was a Green Beret Okay the reason I'm asking is because uh when when I ask for your ID you typically we want your driver's license right I understand you gave me your property ID we need your driver's license it has the numbers on there so we can identify you right I don't know what the point was in refusing or asking me to detain you and Lou of doing that but just so you know I can charge you for that if I choose to okay secondly the pulling away from us as we're trying to detain you you know what that's called it's called resisting arrest I don't know why you would think to do that I don't know why you would think to get in more trouble you know what I mean next time law enforcement comes up to you honestly it was probably just out of a habit not resisting you guys but where mind Lal work was you know I mean clearly you can see just came back you got three marked units coming up I'm clearly in uniform I only saw one the first one that came up even still when you were resisting you were standing there I was standing there you you were looking that way you see that you know this one's here and there's three police officers in front of you including him who's already identified himself as a police officer even though he's not wearing a uniform no it's not even that he wasn't wearing uniform it was that he didn't get his ID at the moment and he was shaking in the in you know how many people that I've dealt with here that are shaking when they're confronted I I get the confusion you know he could have and I'm not blaming but he could have said hey you know what in Special Forces for how long 14 years 14 years okay out before somebody go goes into any T part of a combative situation what does their B body naturally do shakes it depends on the person though exactly but it depends on the person the the difference is is the more combat that you have like violent combat okay I was unarmed you were armed okay my body dumped a shitload of adrenaline because it was naturally preparing for fight just like you said so you can play that game again don't minimize what you're what you're like or Justify sorry I'm not trying to justify it's just you're doing good for the community by lying it's like it's taking your credibility and it's destroying it man like understand that like you're doing good right quit lying right be a good person you're you're and that's talk to pastelis because he went to high school with my wife and he told me pettas yeah so like chill out don't try and justify your actions okay in any way shape or form okay are we good no um you're actually going to be I'm not charging you for resisting or concealing ID however we are charging you for impersonating a police officer we're going to write you a citation there's going to be a report you have a court date all that stuff officer power is getting that ready for you you right now he'll bring it to you and he'll explain it to you in a minute it is a full misdemeanor just so you're aware and just to clarify you can use your lights and your Authority here in the parking lot wherever your private property that you're contracted to be if you're on the highway you're in the City of Albuquerque you're somewhere you're not supposed to be you are not a police officer correct you cannot do that if you would like to become a police officer we're hiring yeah great but until then you need to use your Authority correctly also I have a question why' your license plate in your door I don't know not my vehicle I mean I I understand what you're saying but you know the I just got the vehicle so I'm the one house or I'm sorry where do you pick it up I take it home so they gave it to me to take it home because I have when did they give it you 2 weeks ago so you've been driving me for 2 weeks and you notice that no there was a license plate it was in the trunk when I put my gear in there and so I put it in there and I haven't put it in where go if it's going to be on the yeah I know where some goes okay so you knowingly moveed your license plate from the trunk to your door when did you do that you been driving it a week on the interstate you been I do You' been driving out on the interstate for week so even if it is a company's car you're responsible for that car the registration the insurance and all that stuff doesn't matter whose car you're driving you're supposed to have that stuff right I guess so yeah as far as that as far as a company I wasn't sure but personal vehicles yes well essentially it's a private company it's not a government agency is it even government agencies have have to have on it right that's why I question them I don't I 516 you calling so once we give you the citations everything else um obviously we can't put your weapon back in the back seat cuz you're a dog um just wait till you guys leave yeah if you don't is is that the key to the trunk is there anything in the trunk I need to be concerned about my long rifle I'm not going to pull anything out um if you're okay what I'll do is I'll put all your weapons magazines everything else in the trunk once you leave you're welcome to go ahead and okay bring them back right to condition okay so I'll wait for another officer to step over here first and go good [Music] way actual court date yep it's a first appearance court date there'll be a phone number and everything on there for the court if I have the address and time just call them and make sure like whatever it is um because what will happen if you don't show up like you'll get a warrant for your arrest like you so um they time we don't do first appearances that's up to the person that goes we do the second you know we do the the second hearing but for the most part we don't need the first uh initial appearances but it'll be a Wednesday at 1:30 and he'll explain to you it has all the information on the bottom for you done with this yeah you have any questions no questions back yeah everything is in the trunk along with your watch your wallet your uh your magazines everything and one set of your [Music] cups power do you have his IDs yeah I do all right sir there's your copy of your IDs uh do you understand what you need to do I do call it's on the bottom part very right here address phone number and date and time yeah date and okay so that is the thing okay got it all right Jens guess that's it yes sir all right cool thank you all right sir I said next time make it easier we don't have to put you in handcuffs we did not have to do that could have just talked like normal people just like we are now sometimes my wife doesn't say I'm normal what's that sometimes my wife doesn't say my nor I'm normal well my Ex-Wives not have a good day all right you have a good one