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Put the gun down now at about 12:30 in the afternoon on July 28th 2019 officers from the Hot Springs Police Department in Arkansas received multiple 911 calls about a male with a shotgun making threats to civilians in the Hot Springs National Park Hot Springs 911 what's the address of your emergency um 362 Central there's a guy out here on the bench he's threatening and I don't very intimidating now he's intimidating people that are walking by he's big guy white he's got a beard Gray shirt blue jeans okay do you know if he's got any weapons uhoh uhoh uhoh he just got up he's pulling something out of his pants lady get somebody down here please he pull something up out of his pants do you know what he pulled out no I don't know if it's a gun or what he is nuts okay screaming at people on the street now on the road but he has something down his pants it's long it's uhoh he's got a shotgun he's got a shotgun in his pants okay we've got a number of units in the area okay I'm going to go ahead and let you go I've got another caller on the line okay okay thank you the suspect has been reported to be walking South down Central Avenue a very populated and busy area Hot Springs now um we are in downtown Hot Springs and there's a gentleman running down the sidewalk saying that he's like Secret Service with a rifle okay we're going to get somebody out there all right we've already got offic in the area thank you man' uhuh multiple other 911 callers also report that the suspect is impersonating a secret service agent Hot Springs 9911 what's the address of your emergency right here on the Central Street in Hot Springs there's a man walking around with a shotgun okay where exactly where is he located he's in front of gangster Museum in front of the gangster Museum there's a cop right next to him right now okay all right thank you he's walking he's walking down the middle of the road okay thank you the suspect has made his way further south and the caller mentioned an officer being next to him that same officer now activates his body cam hey Put the gun down Put the gun down now Put the gun down now Put the gun down now stop Put the gun down Put the gun down drop the weapon drop the weapon drop it now drop the weapon drop the weapon [Music] okay [Music] drop let me see your hands are you [Music] hereit right before the exchange of gunshots the suspect turned and raised his shotgun in the direction of the officers the officer then began shooting as it it was clear to him that the suspect was about to open fire on them the officer fired approximately 10 gunshots while the suspect shot once however the suspect fired prematurely shooting into the ground in which the shotgun slug he fired broke apart when it hit the concrete the resulting shrapnel ricocheted off the ground and hit the other officer on scene as well as his K9 unit shot copy we've notified the amulance it's going to be by the gangster Museum keep your hand hands above your head keep them there do not move your hand all other units switch to Pursuit all units that aren't downtown central switch to Pursuit do not move your hands keep them there do you have any other weapons keep your hands where they're at Hot Springs 911 yeah this is Tom at the Mountain's Edge at 406 Central Avenue we gotot fire we've got officers in here yes sir thank you yes sir Springs 911 yes we are on um I think it's Central Street not sure we're up here by the Arlington yes maun we gunshots and everybody's running what do we need to do just just stay back where you are okay can you tell us which way it is so we know it's not toward the gangster Museum towards the 500 block it's what towards the 500 block stay away from that area okay okay can you tell me a business that way I'm Not museum I gotta go man' thank you okay thank you where at H AR where are you oh yes we've got officers downtown okay okay thank you okay we need to cover contact he's got whatever he's got do okay if we're going to move up we're going to move up as group of three all right I'm on you I'll be contact okay I'm going to move forward let's move up as group of three okay we're going to want to position to where we got to keep your hands where they're at where they're at okay all right if you want to move I'll go to go to cover but we need to have you face his head who what I'm sorry I'm this man what' you say I'm gonna go contact y good me facing his head this side this side this side I got come over here hey roll on your stomach roll on your stomach get on your stomach roll on your stomach hands behind your back I've got lethal you get in coming officers get their first good look at the suspect's gunshot wounds he was shot numerous times on the left side of his stomach and back my knee I don't know if I got hit or not are you good I think Smith got shot behind your back for me we going to [Applause] get got shells in his pocket one two three okay he's got shells on [Applause] his should beine get him get him put car here where's your car [Music] there you go there's a good boy there's a good boy do you want to hold on him do you want to hold on him so I can go over there to Smith do you want to hold on him so I can go to Smith I I'm shaking man up yep I'm back up get everybody back ran what I don't know what you to do I'm the one that shot him okay holster up right here get everybody back somebody shut that [ __ ] sir off with the gunman down there's still one more surprise in store for police as an entitled woman who says she's being targeted by the shooter soon attempts to intervene with the investigation get that sir shut off and let's get this traffic moving and get him out of the way so we can contain this JT hey JT you're clear on uh 500 Central 500 Central we're clear to go in okay do we know anything else uh no I don't we got them we're trying to set up a PR whenever he's calling okay dude I'm shaking I can't believe this just man he turned around and raised that up towards Smith he he shot in the ground man I don't know somebody shot behind me that scared the crap out of me after we shot I heard a round go off by my ear guys we get to move on down please The Other Well ladies and gentlemen step behind the other police patrol vehicle back the cross be wonderful conversation my mom and my wife hey do you not see the crown seam tape what are you doing y'all just need to get out of here keep going that way walk that way you not hear me go she's got but I'm not tripping and thinks that they're out I don't think I know I can prove it sir if you take me with you I don't want to him I'm sorry but I'm shaking like I just explain everything look I'm corpor R they've beening me since Street I left with no fuing shoes who look y'all are calling me out in front of all these fing people they're going to kill me they were out here like look you're already out here in front yeah obviously cuz of him the [ __ ] are you are you involved with this dude no I don't I can't see look I had proof in my phone it's just dying do you understand but they are staring at me like some of them when he just fing left me is dying I just HD off in the visitor center if you don't believe me you can go ask them they were going to call you guys but then we heard that they've been following me from Henry Street I got in the water you don't understand the guy with the gun truth bro what's his name they all have guns who the [ __ ] I need to know who um I know only know their nicknames buns I can show you where they all live little Al um his real name is Allan um um D baby Jesus is one of them I know that sounds crazy but I'm not [ __ ] crazy it's not drugs either okay come on now have a seat right there I'll be right back hey Hunter this chick is tweaking her balls off but like want black yeah sitting up here but she's saying that she's saying people are after her with guns and she's naming off people so I don't know if she's related somehow to this dude or she was saying that the people that were involved were stand they were chucking like the old guy like like an old man like so you already talked to her yeah I'll get her information on her to beat no all right that that's fine I just didn't know what was going on with I didn't know she' talking to anybody okay you good yeah I'm fine I'm the one that shot though are you good hey are you good I'm good I'm not hitting anywhere I'm just yeah I'm good I'm good I'm you know are just them two just these two that I know of you want to sit in my car uh they told me to stay right here for now I'm good for now man I appreciate it though what happened man we got a call that he's walking around downtown yelling at people he said they say that he's got a shotgun we get here people are pointing we get out he's got a shotgun he walks across the street we say Dr the weapon up the road a little bit he racks one shoots into the ground so we're walking we're saying drop the weapon drop the weapon drop the weapon he kind of was turn he racked one and shot it into the ground yes and then he's we're sitting here K9 Officer said I have taser I've got my glock out uh and he goes he he's walking and and I'm familiar with the subject he's he's been very aggressive in the past but I mean he's walking he's got a shotgun yes he's got a shotgun he's walking he turns he turns around and lifted it up like this didn't point it directly at us that I he was coming around he's coming around raising it like this and so I shot him hey hey hey you're good you're good hey look stand up look at all these people here yeah look at all these people here yeah you just saved the lives of all these people okay what if one of those shotgun pellets would have gone and hit that person over there yeah you did your job okay he turned and he turned and came up like this you're good you're good you gave him commands didn't comply you had to save these people and yourself yeah I appreciate it you're good I'm just got to let it in breather if you want to go sit down somewhere else R can yeah I'm good for now I'll talk to them I appreciate it man okay hey thank you if you need hey you're good good they're checking him out now and this down here he we get out there people are pointing at him sir we get out with him he starts walking he walks across central on this to this side he we say drop the weapon he shoots the shotgun into the ground so me and Smith come up we're walking down the sidewalk this way I have my glock pointed at him Smith says I have taser we're walking and he's he's already shot one yeah in the ground in ground and we keep saying drop the weapon drop the weapon drop the weapon he turned around like this and lifted that we're back here he turns like this and once it got to like right here I don't know how many rounds I put in him sir I don't know how many rounds I shot but he turns like this and I shot okay all right well uh you had your body cam on yes sir yes sir I don't know if my unit cam activated or not it didn't but my unit cam doesn't have anything I have my body cam on the whole time who who moved the gun any I don't think we did it dropped right there think he dropped it I picked it up and clear do you want to hold on do you want to hold on him so I can go over there to Smith I'm going to go see if Smith's okay real quick I just want to talk to you man cuz we're with it based on triage protocol a set of guidelines that helps Medics determine how to allocate medical resources the suspect had to be treated and transported first before the injured officer could be transported hey are you good buddy yes sir thank you very much man I appreciate that you okay yeah I mean I'm just letting this all sink in man he turned around and once he raised it in your general direction I didn't get hit but my knee hurt some sh hey stand up here stand on this yeah are you hit anywhere I don't I don't think so man I don't know right now you probably be feeling it now yeah I would be I don't think I'm hit I just I don't know I think I I don't know what happened when he shot man I duck behind that tree I don't know if I hurt my knee or what and we cuz I we saw him right here and we crossed over he shot in the in the median though like he shot right here on the ground no right I mean this thing I'm sorry he points at the ground and Pops one off into the ground right here there shells there yeah I don't I don't know now I'm trying to recollect myself uh right here it's right here where where was the other he said he shot twice he shot at us the second time and that's when you shot I shot no I so I shot before he shot at us because he's walking we start walking for drop the weapon drop the weapon he doesn't he turns like this with the gun and once he got to about right here that's when I shot okay and then after that he said I don't know he said or something then he turned around and shot but when I shot he went I think he went down and then came back around and then he popped one off in our Direction which is hit that other off right yeah and I'm just letting it sink in that what just happen yeah okay he shot the first time then he unad he takes that first shell out right there I I believe so yes sir he shot we we walk this direction we say drop the weapon he goes nope pops one to the ground that's when we he starts walking I start following him this way we're saying drop the weapon drop the weapon he doesn't do it Smith is to my left he says I've got taser I say okay we start kind of advancing closer to him thinking we're going to ATT the taser and he does like this he's walking like this he turns he brings the shotgun up to about here that's when I shoot and then I think I think he after I shoot he turns like this and then turns around and Pops one off in our Direction I think that's when he shot Smith want to have a seat right here that way I kind of know yes sir oh God my knee hurt you yeah I'm fine I think I'm okay my knee I don't know okay I think it's fine it just hurts I think when he when he turned right before I shot I went yeah yeah just taking man it's I don't think no the other officer got shot in the leg right here though I saw that the suspect 31-year-old Jonathan Allen Scott now 36 years old in present day was transported to a hospital and eventually recovered from his injuries he was arrested for his actions later the same day after being treated for his wounds the officer in his K9 unit named bear who were both hit also made a full recovery from their injuries in regards to the officers the chief of the Hot Springs Police Department stated their well-being is very important to us because they have suffered a traumatic event it's important for us to provide assistance to them for their well-being all officers involved in the shooting had been placed on administrative leave with pay while awaiting the outcome of the shooting investigation and an administrative investigation the chief said it's standard Department policy for incidents like this the panicking woman who thought she was being targeted after hearing the gunshots was found to not be connected to the situation Scott's criminal history involves numerous prior arrests dating all the way back to 2006 when he was 18 years old the charges for these arrests include misdemeanors like Criminal Trespass harassment theft of prop property and various traffic violations one of these arrests was extremely close to the shooting dating only 3 weeks prior for this particular previous arrest Scott was charged with public intoxication and was sentenced to 30 days of probation the court recommended he seek mental health treatment in response to that case this combined with his comments about being a secret service agent as well as reports about him quietly murmuring to himself the day of the shooting indicates Scott has various mental health issues anybody walking down the street pumping a shotgun with in a tourist area you know have some uh have some issues you know he needed help and I guess he couldn't get it he was pretty sad James Sutherland suspects Scott's mental well-being was suffering he says Granny's Kitchen a few doors down tried helping the suspect in an attempt to stop him from yelling at those passing by he they gave him breakfast you know being nice to him he threw it on the ground and he said well you call the police on me I'm the Secret Service and then he starts wh at his gun Larry Ryan a man who runs a shop right across the street from the shooting location voiced his main concern he said I'm not against weapons at all my concern is where somebody like that would get a weapon the case was investigated by the Arkansas State Police the FBI and special agents with the ATF Scott was later indicted by a Federal grand jury in April 2019 on charges including assault resulting in serious bodily injury and assault with intent to do bodily harm on November 27th 2023 The Honorable chief judge Susan o hickey sentenced Scott to 20 years in federal prison on both counts he is currently serving out his sentence and will be nearing 60 years old when he has completed serving his time in 2043 now this is something that no officer wants to experience when police officers go into the police academy a lot of thoughts are going through your mind you're excited you're nervous and many officers may not want to admit it but part of you is afraid because deep inside your mind you know the possibility of what could happen over 20 years ago I'm working with my partner and we respond to back up a fellow officer who was investigating a male in the highway so we pull up and it seemed to happen in a millisecond after a brief struggle with the mail he took out a pistol pointed at my coworker's head and pulled the trigger and to this day I still don't know how he missed so I quickly Park and we exit the car guns in hand making our way towards the mail and by this time he's running up the street while looking behind him and shooting at us now thankfully other officers arrived in location was able to take the suspect down cuz I didn't have the opportunity to return fire due to my back stop not being cleared now what back stop is what is beyond your Target and in this situation there were many houses behind the suspect when an officer has to fire his or her weapon they can't just think about the target they must think about what is beyond the target but thankfully the suspect went to prison and not one officer was injured that night now today we have a case at a Hot Springs Arkansas a Mel in a heavily populated area and he has a firearm now numerous calls are coming into the 911 call center and when this happens the dispatcher and the officers know that it's probably a founded call and in this case it is now the officer locates the mail and engages with him along with a 9 officer by ordering him to drop the weapon numerous times however the male continues to walk away ignoring the commands of the officer then the suspect makes the mistake of turning with the firearm in his hand raising the weapon towards the officer and simultaneously the officer fired at the suspect incapacitating now most officers never have to fire their weapon during their career and in fact only about 27% of all officers say they've ever fired their service weapon while on the job but you just never know if it's going to be you and when an officer fires the weapon they're responsible for every bullet that comes out of it that's all I have for today guys remember to be safe and I'll see you on the next one
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