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that's your interpretation yes it is my interpretation and i'm pretty good at my job and it kind of gets what i get from you right now is that you want something happen so you can use that gun hey guys the video i have for you today is actually a follow-up video to the one i put up the other day with the open carry guy who called in about the noise complaint this video was recorded later on in the same shift by the same officers who responded back out to the guy's house apparently he was outside and he overheard the neighbors he was having a dispute with previously they were talking on the phone he didn't like what he heard them saying on the phone so we called the police again the video you'll see is going to be the officers responding you get to hear how they dealt with him the second time for the in that same shift and hear the advice that they gave him again so i hope you enjoy the video i hope you learned something and i'll talk to you soon mr williams come on what's going on now i'm just following what's going on i'm over i was overhearing him calling in but he's going hand you know i need back up this dude so i'm [ __ ] up basically threats like that um i'm just calling in and putting on paperwork i told you this is going to continue to go down road now i just reviewed the tape i don't think i did anything out of order and yes i was moving away i was trying to de-escalate i let that handle in court i'm getting ready to get that and go down to the magistrate now but i'm just time stamping and letting you know it is progressing there's more people there's three or four cars they're all [ __ ] gathering so i don't know where this is going so what did you hear him say i heard him thanks for having my back this dude's done [ __ ] up we're gonna get him okay that's what i heard we're gonna get him yeah what's what's that mean it could be any number of things legally it doesn't work sitting on his porch on his phone on on voicemail talking yeah he's talking loud so i'm just i'm just timeline i'm time stamping everything okay all right so you're probably going to get a lot of calls coming at this point that's why you're doing it so all right well that's that's all i'm i'm doing is time stamping and i'm and you can see there is more people now um i'm i'm just time stamping anything if anything should happen to happen i just heard a whole bunch of shots over that way so i know you guys are probably busy so so you've been outside the whole time since we left last time no i've gone in we are not allowed to smoke or vape in the house okay so that's usually why i'm on the pitch yeah be able to do in the backyard i can and i probably will at this point probably but it's i all my chairs are here there's no rain cover in the back so i mean right now it's not quite just like i said earlier the smarter play is to not try and attack anything not being any force isn't necessarily interesting it's not but he's doing the same thing and this is what i'm saying i'm not the one escalating i'm not saying you are at this point but there's people that have ignorance in their life and not give them any more ammunition if it's not going to bother you to take a different place to smoke or whatever that's probably in the best interest but you do what you need you do what you want to do on here but like i said i've got a crowd of people i got people cussing more in my neighborhood and it's and at what point does this pop off and what do i do when that pops off you stay over here that's right and and this is my have they directed any words towards you yes he started pointing at me and calling me a [ __ ] and this and that and i just walked out he was talking to john and jude and i didn't know what was going on so i poked my head out the door and he immediately started cussing at me i don't have that on film because my i had this on charge i was trying to get it downloaded these two people are new people that have shown up don't be so antagonistic people and i mean these have people over here no you see you keep telling me to stop being attacked you just made a con of these people that are i don't know is it a fact it's a fact i don't care that they're on a walk they showed up and have been talking to them and then telling them what they can and can't do and revolves to me all right they've already said words to me who did they did people walking down the street what'd they say to you oh i don't remember at this point you're asking for a lot of detail i know you're trying to do your job i'm just time stamping so when this [ __ ] kicks sideways like why do i have this vehicle in my yard now it's not in your yard dude across the street right now so much i need to concern myself with my safety and when i've got people piling up i'm going to be care i'm going to sit on that porch i'm telling you from this point on i'm allowed to defend my property [Music] dude if somebody robs you you're just going to you know bend your knee or you're going to try you're putting you're blowing this way out of proportion i'm done if [ __ ] goes sideways this is recorded you're recording and there's that it's a loud music yeah that's what i'm saying why is it got to go to this level why do we have all this activity now because he's upset that somebody stood on him i'm trying to get down to the magistrate and get charges filed because i actually heard him threaten me on there you couldn't hear it with all the background noise but i know when i get it on there and i can adjust the volume on that you'll be able to hear it clearly you need to take a step back no i need to be able to defend myself no you're all worried about defending yourself no one's on being attacked i've got evidence of it i'm uh there's higher you're saying there was one threat of him saying i've heard him [ __ ] on the phone calling his poison and look he's got his boys why are you screaming across the road i'm not screaming you're saying you can see i have a lot of people saying it loud and directing your voice towards them so they can understand i'm directing it towards you now you're talking looking at me and you're looking towards them i'm not interpreting my intentions are simple i want this to end i want the the escalation to go down i am not going to ignore it i have to ignore it i've retreated to my property i cannot ignore it i cannot ignore what that he's bringing in more and more people he can have it he can have it's gonna happen at two o'clock in the morning he can have as many people as he wants in his house time stamp i've got this recorded i've got this recording i've got the center action you need to take a step back and chill with it no not paid no not literally at what point when a shot hits my house what are you guys are going to do are you going to say are you going to go are you going to go after him that's displayed a gun has been you today i'm wearing it the time i pulled it was when he was coming across you're the only person that has played it you're trying to make assumptions and things that could happen in the future a meteor could follow the sky and hit the neighborhood too okay so when the when the bullets start flying you've got this recording you're taking you're taking this way to another level no i'm not taking it to a level because look at all of this i think and you're wanting something to happen that's your interpretation yes it is my interpretation and i'm pretty good at my job and it kind of gets what i get from you right now is that you want something happen so you can use that gun no i don't let me be very clear the last thing i want to ignore then ignore this situation i can only retreat so far and that's what you're not doing you can ignore what they're saying on my property why did you call us here tonight because you heard him on the phone talking to other people was that me engaging him no i overheard it why is he making you telling me not to be like why is he doing he's doing the same damn reason stop playing he didn't call us about you though he doesn't have to he's calling all his boys look at this you can have friends though they're having friends already you're right you're right right it's interpretation but when it happens they're about to go over to his house have i made threats to any of them no i haven't you called us here for a reason that i don't know that you heard him talk on the phone loudly to his friend that's right because i want it time stamped so if anything happens then what i heard has more weight in a court of law do i have it recorded no do my cameras work maybe i don't know well in a court of law it's going to be hearsay so it's not going to matter exactly it's not going to matter but it shows more intent it helps me in a court of law i'm allowed to do it there's no intent there's no intent yes he's not talking to you we're going to get him he's done [ __ ] up interpret that if i said you've done [ __ ] up i'm going to get you what does that mean what does that mean to you i now that's the hypothetical i'm just giving you the example if i was to do that in in any engagement in which you were either on your job or at home all right mr would you respond mr williams yep you're not going to answer that no i'm not what i'm asking you to do is to ignore i am ignored but listen i'm not escalating this is an escalation it can be interpreted as an escalation no it cannot all right now i'm going to go in my house now that'd be great you can go in the house but if this keeps up i'm going to come out here and i'm going to smoke i can smoke on my front porch i've spoke on my back that doesn't mean intimidating just like you said you remember what i told you last time i was here about you and if you're going to open carry a gun you need you to be a cooler calmer head a cooler calm ahead would potentially stay out of the way and go to the backyard to see you want to keep talking over top of me we're going to be done here you need to think about your actions if you're going to carry a gun don't care if it's on your property or whatever like i said earlier i almost believe that you want to incite something that is your belief it is my belief and i'm telling you as a gun carrier open carrier you need to have a cooler calmer head and take yourself away from the situation it's going to cause a problem you said you could smoke in the backyard but you're not choosing to do that you want to be out here so that you can you want to be aware when something goes sideways because i've already heard the threats now you don't know those threats i've heard them i know what those threats are mr williams all right we're gonna leave now all right please ignore whatever you think is going on over there if they're talking to you directly then fine but they're gonna have a party over here they're probably not people over here it's probably going to get loud we'll come over we'll do a couple laps well it depends if it's if it's a situation around issues at all do what you have paranoia issues at all me yes sir are you a psychologist no offense but that's a that's an uncalled question i am trained to deal with people that have our mental health crisis i do not have mental health issues all right i have recordings of actual things that have happened so it's not paranoid are not going to happen does that make sense mr williams what you what you recorded earlier i do a lot of students work and i've watched these things play out multiple times and if something happens more often than not you can usually rely on them happening that way generally speaking it all de-escalates and everything's fine in copper second three years later or you're not at a security job right now somebody goes dude that was all [ __ ] up i'm sorry you're not at a security job he's having friends no i'm not my own [ __ ] property and i'm getting woke up by loud ass i work at night from time to time usually i don't but right now i'm working from [ __ ] 12 to [ __ ] six in the morning or ten depending on how long it goes all right i'm i'm doing i i'm doing um demolition right now huh are you working tonight i was until this happened because i cannot risk anything happening because when i was on chittetan it went down that way i've had people sit there and threaten my wife when i was married and then three o'clock in the morning i'm being put into handcuffs because supposedly i made a threat and then after the cops leave my [ __ ] front door gets busted in all right so i it's not paranoia this is [ __ ] that has happened so if it's happened before it can happen again i'm watching an escalation occur all right why why are we gonna have a party now why are we building up more people why we have more people around because they want it right they can do that and that's fine but the moment this house is harmed i have a right to defend myself and i have a right to report it i have a right to and that's all i'm doing i'm recording because i've told you that i've heard threats if damage happens here and there was [ __ ] going on there two plus two equals what is it is it five or is it but you're taking a noise complaint from earlier and turned into someone shooting up your house i am listening to escalation because i'm hyper vigilant and being in there there it is you're hyper vigilant all right we'll be around the area [Music] so
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