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any prints or anything around that
yeah so just be careful take pictures of
them tied up and uh
the bandana was already out of his mouth
but he's still tied up with the belt
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yeah come around come around on the on
the back side if you would
looks like you've got is that us is that
our print
yeah yeah this is going to be nice
i got pictures but he made literally he
was legit hardcore tied up
brandon what happened i have no clue
i was getting ready for work uh-huh just
after i dropped my son off
on daycare what time was that well
7 58 o'clock this morning you've been
tied up all the time
i'm not exactly sure
did they come did they get you out of
the truck where's your son
he's in daycare okay
so were you in the car
help at my house they came into your
house
i was in my car at my house okay did
they drag you out of the car
what happened they they showed up and
they were asking me
different questions and i don't remember
exactly what it was
and then they said they were saying take
a ride with us and i was trying to tell
them no
and then next thing i remember i got hit
with something
and then a little hit in the head
okay and then a little bit later i was
in the back of a car
they were talking about something about
uh
where my dad is and a bunch of money
i'm sitting there trying to tell them
that my dad's in prison who were they
what do they look like
one guy was like 50s really long
black hair and a braid
white black hispanic white
with the tattoos on his arms do you
remember what the tattoos look like
one of them looked like a bear which arm
was it on do you remember
on his left arm like down here
right about the wrist oh about here okay
so kind of on the inside half of what my
tattoo is
right here and it looked like a bear
yeah okay do you remember what was on
that arm
this arm it just looked like there was
an arrow an arrow on his right arm
a bow and arrow okay and was
was he white too had you ever seen them
before
i have not but their voices were
familiar okay
is there somebody that's mad at you is
there anybody that you can think of
that's upset with you right now
not to mistake okay but that's what i'm
saying is that nobody would have been
looking for you
they over and over said they were
looking for my dad
did they mention your dad's name do they
know your dad damn webster
and they said his name and
if they know him then they know he's in
prison right
i'm not sure i know he's up in mexico
he was um he went to prison shortly
after i moved out of new mexico
okay and so when you're in the back of
how did you end up here
i don't remember anything after they
threw me out of the car
they threw you out of the car here yes
okay and are they the ones that tied you
up
yes okay and um
and all they would tell you was that
he's shaking yeah
and all they would tell you is that they
were looking for your dad they wouldn't
say anything else they said that my dad
sent me a bunch of money
and they were looking for it but i
honestly have no clue what they're
talking about
okay i haven't seen my dad in over two
years
been in prison for two years and you
think they were both in their 50s
roughly about 50 roughly in their 50s
okay and
um but you'd never seen them before
never seen them
what kind of car did they have i
couldn't tell
but the interior was all black the
interior was black and what did do you
remember what color the outside was
like a dark green almost black
dark green but almost black yes okay
black
really older car older it wasn't newer
but it wasn't
really old okay so maybe
this is 2021 so maybe 2004 or 2005
old or are you talking 90s early 2000s
early 2000s as i say you work in the
tire factory you're pretty close on your
cars i would think right
yeah okay so early 2000s dark
green almost black car with black cloth
interior
yes okay um
did they hurt you any any uh you know
did they beat you up
other they hit you in the head you said
it felt like
a piece of wood that hit you in the head
yeah
okay so i turned around and told them i
didn't know them that i didn't want to
talk to them so i tried to get back
okay and then that's when i got hit and
i fell down
so you were kind of standing up by but
by your car talking to them
yeah were you by your driver's store
okay are these people you've seen or at
anybody else's house
did you react any idea why they would
think that you have money
i have no clue okay and and i don't know
them but they know me
well they were calling me by my name
they were calling you by your first name
by brandon
did they know your last name same thing
okay
and did they um
did they park at your house did they
park across the street where were they
parked
do you remember right in front of my
house okay
so were you in a driveway yes i was in
my driveway okay so you're in a driveway
and you're standing by the
driver's door of your car when they
approached you
can you say that one more time so you
were in your driveway and you were
standing outside the driver's door of
your car when they approached you
yes okay and when you responded to them
and said you didn't want to go is that
when they hit you in the head
yes when i turned around to get back in
my heart because i was on my way to work
okay were they both standing there or
just one just one of them at first and
then the second one started coming up
after
i told them i didn't know what they were
talking about okay so they were both
standing there then when you got hit in
the head
so you don't know do you know which one
hit you
do you remember what they were wearing
one was wearing like
a black coat like a pullover hoodie
okay and the other one was wearing like
that shirt
and the one that was wearing the hoodie
is that the one you told me the first
one that
that you talked to the one that looked
like the long black hair in the braid
was wearing the black hoodie and what
did the other guy look like
he had really short hair it was blonde
like shades
when you say short or do you mean like
uh
somewhere a mix between his and mine
okay so a little bit longer than his
yes okay and short on the sides like uh
and who is that have you set you
okay when you and when you say heavier
set did he
look heavy he was white
i pardoned my words but fat okay
okay so he was on the on there on the
fat side
on the obese side okay and the other one
was thin you said yes
oh really skinny how tall do you think
he was taller than me
how tall are you
so you think he was six foot
about six foot and what about how tall
do you think the other guy was the heavy
set guy
about the same size same height as me
about five ten yeah five ten almost got
my numbers messed up
okay can you get him over his journey do
you feel like you're hurt anywhere else
no it's just my head in mind okay but
your legs are okay
you don't feel any pain in your legs
wear out on your head does it hurt
go ahead and get in touch with the
on-call detective
okay so there's a little bump right here
you guys see the last name hey brandon
is it her anywhere else no okay
he didn't make it to work today no he's
saying that they've had him
tied up all day and then kicked him out
of the car over here any idea how long
you've been sitting here if you had to
guess
not exactly sure a couple hours here
okay when they left do you remember
which way they went
that way they drove out that way okay
guys get some cones and block this off
right here and on the other side he's
saying that this pathway is the way the
car
left so let's put some cones up and and
kind of make a perimeter on that can we
get him over to the gurney and get a set
of idols absolutely
are you okay to move you think yeah okay
i know he's freezing shaking
shivering what's up man get your blank
values
so he was found he was tied up yeah his
hands were tied and his feet were tight
and he had
a bandana in his mouth okay do you know
that
my my wallet my phone and my keys are
still
in my they're in your vehicle yes okay
and
what kind of vehicle do you drive 2003
ford explorer okay okay
would you like us to go pick those up
for you so they're not in your car what
would you like us to do
yes please okay um and what
tell me the numbers again what was it
what's a good phone number for you
sweetheart when you have your cell phone
five to zero two five one
okay and you've never seen these guys
before
okay and when their car came through
they dropped you right here and then
continued out
yes and they went by the railroad tracks
okay
you
what do you think you'll transport him
to play china regional chandler
yeah when um
his phone and his wallet and stuff are
in his car we're gonna pick it up for
him so it's not left in his car
um if they put him in there under a code
name will somebody
let us know what that name is so we get
information please
okay guys
debbie yeah yep i know my wife's at work
yeah i'll call debbie
and you can't think of a reason that
anybody would be up come looking for you
like you don't you don't know anybody
any money you don't
the only reason i would know is all the
[ __ ] that my dad was doing up in new
mexico and it's the reason why he's in
prison
and i was involved in it but not like
involved in it
so you think these guys would come from
new mexico to find you was it that bad
of stuff
i mean my dad was like stealing cars
okay but i'm saying and that's what i'm
saying was it bad enough that you think
they would come from up there to find
you
i think so because they're looking for
my uncle
as well who's actually on the run from
cops okay
and supposedly he's down here somewhere
okay
i haven't seen him in two years either
okay do you remember them getting you
out of the car
anywhere else were you in that car the
whole time or did they stop
somewhere anywhere else you just
remember riding around you guys just
rode around
i remember we rode around for a little
bit while they were asking me where my
dad was
and then they stopped and i don't
remember anything after that
do you know if i had to ask you what
time do you think it is right now
12 30 afternoon yeah okay what would you
say if i told you it's about
six is it really yeah
so that's why i'm asking did you guys
ride around all day long because
you're telling me you think it's only
been
four or five hours that you were with
them i really have no clue
okay i'll remember a couple hours okay
and i'm gonna ask you this
take away the take away the cup for just
a second okay i'm just gonna ask you
this because we need to know
have you done any drugs today or alcohol
no not today nothing today when was the
last time you did drug sweetheart
uh i smoked weed yesterday okay is weed
your drug of choice or do you do
anything else
i don't do anything else nothing else no
okay i smoke weed
to control my anger management in my
bipolar okay
okay no problem with that what about
alcohol do you drink alcohol
no i don't okay i have alcohol in my
fridge from like
a year ago okay so the only thing you
had was yesterday and that was weed
yes okay and that was around
nine o'clock last night okay okay
do you take medications no i don't okay
nothing for your bipolar or anything
like that
i don't like my medication so i don't
take them okay
um i haven't taken them in over a year
okay
all right can you think of anything that
was said or any place that you went or
that you saw
that i haven't asked you that maybe you
can tell me can you think of anything
said that they were going
up to winslow arizona to find my uncle
okay they think your uncle's in winslow
and tell me your uncle's name again
dallin webster dallin webster okay
all right and they said they were going
when they left you here they said they
were going to winslow
yes okay all right they said
if i can't find my dad they would fight
me again
if they can't find your dad they'll find
you again yes
okay and they where were they going to
go look for your dad at
i am no clue okay and does dallin
normally live up there in winslow
uh he usually lives in globe or
roosevelt arizona with my grandparents
kind of a distance between those two yes
about
two hours or something i'm i'm not sure
that's what i'm saying they're quite
different so that's why i was wondering
why they were going to go to winslow
yeah
i know that my uncle dallin has several
warrants out for his rest so he's always
in a different town
okay i happened the last time i heard
from him was
quite a few months ago okay and last i
know
he was staying with my grandparents in
globe in globe or
roosevelt and do they live out by when
you say roosevelt are you talking about
like a town or are you talking about out
by roosevelt lake
they live right behind the resort right
behind the resort okay
okay turkey drive okay
what's your what's your grandparents
name smart
daniel webster
and debbie webster oh
same name huh yeah i have grandma lots
of debbies
okay do you know their number by heart
no i don't
but it's in my phone it's in your phone
okay well we'll go by your house and
pick up your stuff for you
so when you get done you come back to
the police department
so that we can get your stuff to you
okay and if you remember anything else
we'll find out at that time okay okay i
would be fine with you giving my stuff
to my grandma as well if that would be
online
if not so debbie yeah if not then it's
fine if i go pick it up from the
customer
because we're gonna need to talk to you
when you get done okay
and we're going to have to get debbie or
someone to go up and pick you up
i'm sure okay all right recovered they
probably won't go inside but they'll be
there somewhere right
all right sweetheart we'll give you guys
a name
appreciate you guys so much
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all right so we're where are you just
over here in the desert where
where did where was that
i can't remember the name of the street
but it was like right behind the water
tower
okay over by that that park across the
street from there across from the train
tracks on the east side of the track so
let's say uh i was
on the side closer to main street okay
do you have anybody in town that comes
up with you
no i'm not that i know of i i know that
my uncle dallin
is here and there every once in a while
sometimes he's
in town sometimes he's not sometimes
he's in different states sometimes he's
not
but he's been looking for my dad he
doesn't believe anybody when
we tell him that my dad's in prison and
supposedly
from what my uncle down says is him and
my dad we're supposed to be bearing a
lot of money together
i don't really have much to do with my
uncle anymore because he's on the run
from the cops he's got
several warrants out for his arrest
you're unclean you're not supposed to be
bearing money somewhere yeah
we were talking about that i've been to
mexico when i was living there
when did you last live there uh
june no uh march
23rd 2019. so a year and a half ago
or two years ago yes you could move back
and your uncle dallin yes
he supposedly he's staying in roosevelt
arizona
right behind the lake yeah right behind
the resort
with my grandparents i know that he's
got warrants out for his arrest for
several occasions like different ones
he's got several in new mexico
a couple in colorado and several down
here
what did the people that were driving in
the car what did they say anything to
you
they were like sitting there they were
like we know that he's lying
and i was just laying on the back seat
and i wasn't saying anything to them and
they would look back at me every once in
a while and ask me where's your dad
did they say they took where they were
taking you no they didn't but they said
they were on their way
up to winslow to find my uncle
how long were you in the car with them i
don't really know because at one point
i fell asleep and then we were sitting
right where they threw me out of the car
for a really long time
just sitting there they were talking and
i was just sitting there they were
talking about um
they they wasted their time driving all
the way down here
and i don't know they didn't say from
where
and then they opened the door and threw
me out and they were just staring down
at me and they got in the car and left
when you were in the car with them
were you able to move around or what's
going on with that
just a little bit how were you
positioned
uh my hands were behind my back
and i didn't have any i didn't have the
bandana in my mouth at the time
i was just laying down with my back up
against the seat
what do you carry with you in your
wallet
my driver's license my social security
card
my insurance my debit card
and just pictures of me and my wife and
my son
you don't know where the debit card is
or your card or wallet is
i do not you know what your phone is i
do not what kind of phone do you have
uh i don't remember the name of it but
it's in a black case
what service do you offer your phone
straight talk
from walmart yes is it active right now
yes it is you have minutes and need
people to call you
that you can call people and people call
yourself a minute yeah what's the phone
what's the phone number
do you think they might have stole it i
i
i'm not sure i mean where do you usually
keep your phone when you're walking out
in my pocket and you said you left it at
home where did you leave it at your
house
i left it on my dresser did you go on
and get it yes i mean i came back up
yes you're getting in your car yes what
kind of car
you drive a 2003 ford explorer
what color is it blue and black
my wife's car my fiance's car
what's her name cheyenne cheyenne
s-h-y-a-n-n what's her love nardi
nerdy she used to be the um
uh crap what was that
i don't know cashier at uh
peter patio probably seen her go ahead
you were working on there right yes i
was for a while i i ended up leaving
there to go with your stinger
okay and then now you're tired how long
have been entire factory
uh since like december 12th
things are going all okay over there oh
yeah everything's doing pretty good
though what did i do over there
i um so mondays and tuesdays
uh monday i go and i drive down to
uh hurts rental car place down by sky
harbor
i pick up a bunch of used tires and i
pick up from
uh a mini cooper dealership a honda
dealership
and uh sam's club and then i come back
up here
i just pick up from all those places
yeah we go from like a rental
yeah and then i go back to coolidge
go and then dump those tires
then i go to to scottsdale you dump the
used tires you get new
what do you do with those tires uh we
the the used tires that we pick up we
grade them so we keep the ones that we
can use oh
we throw off the ones that are bad oh
okay that's
that's how we sell our used tires and
then tuesday i go back up
to scottsdale and i pick up from uh
airport dodge
to firestone's and then i go to cass
grand and pick up from walmart and
peppers i wonder why they call it the
tire factors they deal a lot of tires
they don't like recondition them or
anything do they
they used to they don't do that anymore
no they um they had that that business
opened up and
cast grand but then i met knockouts
grant uh california
but his brother died so they shut that
part of the business
okay so you just kind of run around pick
up tires and stuff honestly yeah and
then i get to work out in the shop
tomorrow
the most the rest of the week you put
the tires on and
do that kind of stuff yeah how are your
hands get so dark and stuff i've been
putting full tires all the time
oh yeah
is it weird that this happened today
yeah it's i mean like i had the feeling
something like it would happen
because there's always people
threatening me about it
but i just always threatens you about
this kind of stuff like my uncle dallin
has threatened it
my dad has threatened it what's down is
it down
d-a-l-i-n what's his last name webster
he is a bad dude and he stays with the
grandparents of roosevelt
well he's not what kind of i mean yeah
in a couple
of bad stuff i mean just bad stuff and
i'm about due to you i mean my family
members
told him yeah i gotta there's times he's
he's he's an ass he stole my first truck
and wrecked it
like completely totally but he's a drug
addict
he's uh he's an outlaw he
rides a motorcycle no matter what all
the time
he's one of those guys that uh
his style
he's stuck in the 50s like
like he's a 50s kid he's like
34 years old he's got two kids
but he does a lot of stupid [ __ ]
he shoots heroin all the time
he tried to but i told him
when i was living up there him and my
dad forced me by gunpoint just
a smart uh [ __ ] snort coke
wow when did your dad go in
um the end of march i believe it was
like so he's
like right before he left uh no he got
he got arrested right after i left right
after he left he got posted
yes right after i left he got busted
driving a
a truck from aztec new mexico to durango
colorado with like
five keys of coke
so you got to use cocaine one time
that sucked i didn't like it i was up
for like three days straight yeah
and then when i got back down here i had
a whole like mental
breakdown and that's why i ended up
going to uh banner behavioral in
scottsdale
mm-hmm i think i remember marie one time
where you did not with some stuff and i
think i remember that
they're over there kind of by the giant
over there yeah we're talking about it
was that then
yeah okay let's picture it yeah
i remember that day because that was
that was a pretty bad day
because they brought me up the countdown
and then i ended up making my mom break
down and cry in the middle of the
hospital
yeah every time i talk to my dad he's
starting about how
like he's gonna have his friends come
and find me
all that you saw your dad on the phone
or how do you communicate with him like
he's
uh every once in a while he calls me and
he hasn't lately because i told him to
stop calling me because i didn't want to
hear from him he was a piece of [ __ ] i
didn't want anything to do with him
so he hasn't been talking to me anymore
but
every once in a while i'd get a call and
i wouldn't know it was him until i
answered it it would say
this is a collect call from san juan
county
uh adult detention center
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give me one second got people following
me okay
no no
so walk me through again like what
happened this morning now
okay so he called me at about 7 30
right after i woke up and he told me to
stay home
and i asked him why and he said because
we need to meet up later today
i said i have to go to work he said
bring your son to daycare
stay home from work and we'll meet up
later today
i said i can't i gotta go to work he
goes we have to we have to talk about
this [ __ ] between me and your dad i was
like okay fine
and then and then i brought my son to
daycare and i sat at home
like video games washington and then
at like 120 i started walking over to
the water tower to meet up with him
no because i had it on from before he
called me
okay and i just never took it off
yeah there's usually when i get dressed
i
don't take my clothes off until the end
of the day okay
what does this guy's sick look like
he's i skinny
short a little bit shorter than me long
black hair
in a single braid almost down to his ass
and then he's got tattoos up his arms
and his neck and his chest
and everywhere do you know his real name
i have no clue what his name real name
is
and your uncle's name was dalen dallin
darwin
his last name is webster webster and
he's
40 something 37 36 i think
34 36 yeah what does he look like
he's um
he's got a goatee um sideburns that come
down an angle
towards his cheekbones he's got like no
teeth
always wears a flat built hat
he always wears uh chuck taylor's
like um converse
and usually a leather jacket
okay do you think they're actually gonna
come back next week
i honestly have no clue because there's
been times where my daughter my uncle
down said he'd come see me
and then doesn't show up until like a
week after what he said he was going to
so he's not really a reliable person
he's done stuff like this too before
yes he has when was that in new mexico
he wanted to take my truck up to go pick
someone up from
colorado and i told him no that was when
he locked me
in a bathroom and took my truck to the
left
where in new mexico did you go uh
farmington okay i don't know where
there's four corners
like four corners yeah well uh
technically i lived in a little place
called flora vista
it's like right next to farmington okay
who live there me my dad his girlfriend
and his girlfriend's two kids okay
including my uncle down
and then later on we moved to a
different house
and it was me my uncle down my dad
and then his second girlfriend
with the privacy notification for you
okay one around 69 year old female chief
complaint of
right
okay
so how long did you spend there at the
house with that david myself
maybe like an hour and a half about two
hours
can i pull up a map can you show me
where it's at yeah
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uh
okay yeah it's a m i forgot t m is the
one in coolidge
right there that's second in 335
yes
that's what it looks like yes
i'm not sure i mean it is it is my
family
but i do want to stop
not yet if he shows back up again
yeah he's honestly i have no clue where
he's at right now i don't know where
how do you how did he know does he know
where you live yes he does
i don't know that he's been to my house
several times before
before my mom moved down he's been over
there
several times within the last two years
or before two years he said he hadn't
seen in two years
yes but before two years before i moved
to new mexico
him and my dad would come visit and come
over to the house
really know that you were living there
but you're
telling me to help with that is your
grandma was she laying there too
or thinking no she goes over to her
house yes
um my my mom just moved out of 335 kenny
she brought my the house right next to
my grandma right now
dallin does not know that my mom moved
down to that house
he doesn't know that i'm still living
there he thinks i'm living
by myself with my wife in a different
house okay
so he doesn't know exactly what house i
lived in but he does know i live in
coolidge
do other people in your family know
about
dallin and your dad and the schemes and
the stuff that they do yes everyone does
your mom your grandma
yes okay
about here
see my brother knows everything because
i told him everything
your brother you told your brother what
happened today oh no i haven't told him
about him all day
but like i told him everything that my
uncle and my dad has done to me
i think my brother is still working
right now i haven't talked to him in a
couple days
okay
you want your mom's name ramen
so you have like brown hair and lot like
brown glasses or
yes okay
all right cool
a few weeks later hey hello hey it's
brad
brian here brad browning yeah yeah let
me go grab your blog
yeah we need to talk to you about some
follow-up
he's coming for me right now
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we're going to the station all right
we're going to clear some stuff up make
sure there's some stuff up so right now
you're going to be under arrest for
false reporting
yeah just put your hand up go just put
your hands behind your back here
that's why i tell you we know a lot and
if you want to help yourself you need to
be honest with us when we interview you
because everything we know from the last
year we've been doing our homework so
do you want to grab some shoes inside i
just want to go no shoes
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oh
and so that's that's that's what so
we're going for false recording
okay so we're pretty positive he made
the whole thing up
and that's and it's on video okay
all right all right so he'll um but he's
just missing here so we'll let you know
i'll give you a call we just need to go
talk to him clear some things up and
then
we'll go from there all right thanks
i'm gonna take uh
right there
uh
because we have here in custody so you
have the right to remain silent
anything you say can be used against you
in a court of law if you have a right to
an attorney if you can't afford attorney
want to be appointed to you do you
understand these rights okay
um brandon
we've been we've been doing a lot of
work on this man and
from the get-go you weren't
he gave us a story we disproved that
we told you some information about us
having videos
changed your story to fit that
and now we go we do our job
and uh we just wanna know the truth
okay we didn't come and get you because
we didn't find out information we've
been doing a lot of work
so i'm not gonna go tell you divulging
all this because i don't want you to
change your story to meet that so i just
want you to be honest with me
and tell me what happened the other day
i made a [ __ ] story because i was
i'm tired of my uncle dylan threatening
me
i know you guys don't do anything if
it's just a threat so
i made up a [ __ ] story to get my
uncle talent arrested
before i even knew you was in prison
you made that story up just to get him
arrested yeah
why'd you do that because he's
threatening me
how is he threatening him death threats
through white through what the money
that my dad wants
that'll i mean well how is he contacting
you phone
his phone number because we don't want
to find nothing on your phone
i know i told you i said deleted
everything he deleted it and facebook
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i mean we've got a search point here for
your facebook and for download facebook
okay
i mean you know he's been in jail though
right plus
he's been in jail no way he's done it
he's been locked up
january since january 8th i didn't hear
i didn't know that he got arrested until
the night i was in the hospital yeah we
confirmed
he's been in jail since january and
that's he looked county jail confirmed
it
okay look bryan i haven't seen you in a
couple years
you're a nice kid when i saw you i was
definitely surprised
and i mean i'm not saying what happened
is justified but i think if you just
come
we all make mistakes i made mistakes um
we have officers here no longer officers
because they made mistakes and the big
thing is lying you don't want to be
known as a liar
i think if you just come truth shoot
i'll i'll go down today because you're
going to see a judge today and georgie
and we'll tell you i mean this could
right now you're looking at a
misdemeanor big deal
and then you might get a fine who knows
what's going to happen
but through our evidence i think you
didn't want to go to work
there's a timeline you missed work
monday
because your wife had a miscarriage but
your wife goes to work on monday
tuesday no call no show this has been
confirmed
wednesday no call no show
and you said you got 7 50. i'm just
telling you we have this is all going to
be this is all
and so and then you left your house at 3
57.
13 57 and you're 157 yeah
two o'clock i mean i don't want to call
you a liar and i think you made a
mistake
i don't know i'm not judging you at all
i have kids and they don't but
i mean it's probably just trying to man
up and just be honest with just say hey
this is what happened i'm sorry
i apologize and then you learn from this
mistake and it's not like this
a misdemeanor is not gonna carry the
rest of your life's not gonna hold you
from a job
but the only reason we got involved is
because
tie it up and then your story kept
changing
i mean i understand yeah
i know
i mean your girlfriend seems like a real
nice girl i mean
i think she if i would i think if i was
her father
i have kids her age i want to if if she
stayed with you as a father
i want i think just be honest as man up
i mean i know you might have some but is
it down really the issue
a little bit not the full issue but a
little bit
i mean why why didn't you want to go why
am i going to work
why weren't you not going to work though
well for one
he was threatening me he threatened me
one day that was it
then one day sorry i had a miscarriage
so that's just been messing with my head
yeah i agree i i i know
and then what hap what happened on
tuesday
tuesday i just didn't want to get up
and then then what'd you do on wednesday
then
you just didn't want to get up feeling
bummed out
how'd you get down over by the water
tower i walked
and then what'd you do when you got
there me and my friend christian sat
there and talked for a little while
so yeah we just sat there and talked
and then then what happened after that
i told him to tie my hands behind my
back and put the bandana in my mouth
and to go home was it your belt
yes it was that's what was the one i was
wearing
what'd you guys talk about
what yeah what'd you guys talk about
well i was telling him about the
miscarriage and he told me everything
was going to be all right
and then we just out there talking about
everyday things we sat there and hung
out for like two hours
i mean
that's why i mean
you kind of made it worse when when you
went on coolest chat because then things
got word i read something that i got
deleted since
but so so how made it worse on you just
i'm just going to i'm just being honest
because now people are out there not so
much calling the same might happen but
they're afraid hey this happened in our
city i mean you saw how everybody was
all freaked out about these fugitives
and then we have these other police
champions we just had a bad shooting you
probably didn't know
then we have these shootings and stuff
going on yeah we had a shooting on um
when the last week was not nothing
related to you of course but
right on the 500 block of harding like
over 20 rounds of
shots and then sunday it was a sunday or
monday
another shooting occurred nothing but so
everything people
now people talk you know the small city
is and so now they're just thinking
all these people are running that's so
that's why we that's why we're here
today i appreciate being honest with
this and
you're gonna be chartered false info
which we can work with
i mean i'm sorry have you told your
girlfriend
the truth no not really
i recommend as soon as you get one time
you tell her and i would apologize
the only thing is that just based on
something
i feel bad for your girlfriend because
here she is working thinking everything
you know she's trying to again
try to help
because now when he finds out about this
i'm sure he will if he hasn't
it's going to make him feel
i mean why didn't you ever want to
report his threats or anything
it's the last time i've reported threats
and nothing
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you didn't sound like the guy almost got
on the up and up all right
no i mean me and my uncle downwards
always have an up-and-down relationship
sometimes it's good sometimes it's not
when he's doing drugs
but another thing you made a mistake i'm
just letting you know because something
again
because you implicated that guy over on
florence that guy's a hardened criminal
too
what's the story with that guy on
florence why'd you throw his name in the
mix
dave we went out there tom tom is his
name i guess
that guy doesn't have that guy who told
me about the double wide
oh that that was completely fake that
well you got it pretty much right except
then that guy's definitely we went to
his house and he denied but he's a
hardened criminal
been in and out of dlc a long time so he
didn't we didn't tell him your name but
i'm just saying
you got hit so i mean that's see where
i'm going is
now it causes you more trouble in the
future he's probably might go i'm sure
because he doesn't know who you are
i thought he reads our reports but i'm
just like no
the house you said is a known heroin
house
i mean you can just make that up on the
have you been in double white before
no i've never been to the house i just
pointed out the house
i mean you know i got your hospital
records and everything blood talks to
college and everything
so right do you do to get past this now
what are you gonna
i mean now i gotta confirm this i mean
is christian gonna confirm yeah
is he gonna be straight with me is that
part true yeah he tied you up
christian he's a big
fat guy uh his name is christian johnson
hedge duke i i don't know if his last
name is hedge duke or
or johnson how do you know him i've
grown up with him i wouldn't see you
saying here you are
17 18 i think he just turned 18 where
does he live at
uh right behind the dmv
can you just call him up or how did you
how did you get ahold of him to meet you
there
probably walked over to his house oh
then you okay
so he you told him you were pranking i'm
like
how's that a prank to tie somebody up
and leave him there
i don't know he believed me he's kind of
slow i just told him i
didn't i'm pulling a prank on some
people and he said okay
did you not want to go to work too then
you're trying to get out of work too
keep yeah it seemed like you had a good
job there i mean just
i think if you could just explain you
probably i'm sure you lost that job i
don't think i'm gonna re-hire you but
i think if you would have been honest
with the miscarriage and then hey it's
mess with my head
i mean it's a learning experience i'm
not saying i'm not perfect shoot
i can tell you there's so many stories
and nobody's perfect
and most importantly i hope we gain out
of this is
this won't happen again because you
don't want to get enough founding
conviction
your dad's a felon you have a dance from
my uncle you don't want to be a
convicted fellow
there's a thing that go family but i
don't know what's going to happen for
sure you're going to get false info
it's just because you guys see we had
get him just happened to be so you got
six people in their squad that found you
and me and him get caught out that's
overtime then you had the other squad
tied up
then the fire department came out and
then amr transported he said you just
you're lucky they could charge they're
probably not i don't think they would
but they could charge you for all that
but i'm sure you haven't you've been
having that week because of this haven't
you i'm sure this has been messing with
you
okay just walking to sleep when you guys
got i mean do you feel better that you
got off your chest that you told us the
truth i do
but i still feel like all this [ __ ] in
my head
i know but that's going to happen you're
going to have to but you i think
i listen to you can you guys get back on
your medications i
just don't like you i'm thinking about
getting back on my medication
so i need to go talk to my doctor about
it
i mean how much uh that house you live
at now how much do you pay you pay rent
there
yeah five fifty one it's not bad so
it's smoking deal yeah the rest of these
places in town are
eleven twelve hundred thirteen hundred
bucks just for the smallest place you
can find right
yeah the um the one bedroom apartment
it's like eight
fifteen months i think i'll be right
back

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