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and three two one all right good afternoon everybody this is Daniel here with cops and cons TV I just want to welcome everyone to our weekly live show we're going to break down just some of the most interesting and important issues in crime and police news that happened recently and you know most most importantly in the last week um just so everyone knows if you haven't already please go ahead and subscribe to our Channel just so you know when especially when we do these Live Events want everyone to know exactly when we're coming on so everybody can participate you know we typically do these on Fridays around lunchtime so again just want to welcome everyone in please subscribe to the channel and share it as well if you haven't already my name is Daniel if you want to go ahead and follow me please do that over at police law news on YouTube and Tick Tock and Instagram and everything everything else um just want to welcome everybody in just checking to see where everybody is from looks like we have a couple people from Arizona so far and uh yeah just like we do every week as I'm going through some of these stories if you have questions if you have comments maybe in the last few minutes there's some new information that come in that came in that I'm just not aware of so definitely put it in the chat so we can interact and go back and forth and I definitely love answering questions and what I love the most is if you challenge me so if you think I said something that isn't correct definitely put it in there in the chat so we can go back and forth because embracing honest debate is absolutely the most important thing so the one thing that is kind of developing right now that who knows it might actually come out while we're on live is that Elizabeth Holmes so she's the the woman who started that Healthcare Company theranos years ago um so she's looking at 20 years in prison and the sentence issues found guilty in all the financial and the fraud charges so her sentence is supposed to come out sometime today so it's possible that while we're on the live it might come out however so I just want to make everybody aware of the Elizabeth Holmes trial might come out sometime today and um yeah so she's looking at uh somewhere between 15 to 20 years so uh Millions yeah loose gun says yeah the Deep uh the fake deep voice chick yeah that's probably what she's best known for uh that and uh uh you know being on the cover of uh Forbes Magazine um all right so uh the first Connecticut here awesome good to see you so one of the first cases that we're going to talk about and unfortunately this week we just don't have have a lot of happy cases but we got to talk about what is really happening in the world of Law and police and news and the first case I want to talk about happened on Wednesday of this past week the 16th in Los Angeles County California so there were a group of police Cadets and just so everyone knows just so you're familiar with it when you're in the police academy you are considered a police recruit now most police academies are you know somewhere between four to eight months when I went through the police academy it was six months you know that's a lot of times what the initial training is in the police academy somewhere around six months and what's common back then and even now is almost every morning you go for a run so as as police Cadets you get up really really early in the morning a lot of the time it's still dark outside you put on reflective traffic vests you run in formation everybody has to stay together and you you know we used to do somewhere between three to five mile runs they actually weren't that long but so that looks like that's what happened on Wednesday morning so early on Wednesday morning Los Angeles uh County this happened in Los Angeles County and there were essentially recruits from many different police departments so I think most of them were from LA County but they also had you know recruits from other agencies who were essentially using the Los Angeles County Police Department their Academy as a training ground so there were a total of about 75 police recruits who were running there were also two marked police cars that were kind of as escorting the the 75 of the officers in training recruit officers who were running as they were running and this is captured on surveillance camera video and it's it's absolutely just a horrific thing as the officers the officers in training were running a vehicle came driving down the wrong way on a one-way Road and essentially just crashed and slammed into the entire group of people um watching the video and listening to the sheriff uh Villanueva over in L.A County it seems like the first few officers were able to see this car coming towards them and they were able to jump out of the way however many officers got struck the last updates that were hearing that I saw a couple hours ago is that 25 of the 75 officers were injured 16 have serious injuries and some of those in four are actually still in critical condition right now and are kind of touch and go um also it says some of the reporting that we're getting is that when it comes to like exactly what are those critical and serious injuries is that these you know potential police officers are facing is that some of them have serious head trauma they might lose some limbs arms and legs and these are people who you know wanted to dedicate their life become police officers and were in training to learn how to serve and protect their community and for someone to do this it's an absolutely horrific thing now let's talk about the driver he's a 22 year old man named Nicholas Gutierrez and so he was driving the wrong way on a one-way um he did suffer minor injuries um but nothing major to him police officers on scene so luckily this the one thing that was lucky is that this happened essentially right in front of a fire station so um the firefighters paramedics who were in The Station were actually able to come out and assist the officers who were injured really quickly and probably saved some lives and save some injuries just because the response time was so fast um what also happened is so obviously after this you know the driver was detained by police there was an investigation some of the of the of the surveillance video that I've seen does show some of the field sobriety tests but you know really what we want is body cam footage to come out to really do a good analysis but at least what's being reported is that Mr Gutierrez he passed the field sobriety test um they also gave him because there was a crash with injuries they also did give him some chemical tests so there was a breath test that was given that registered at a .00 so at least at least there's evidence that he was not intoxicated by alcohol however it's also being reported that there were some evidence of marijuana use I believe that there was some marijuana inside of the vehicle that was being reported as well which it again so you know federally um you know you could have issues but you know California like many states um it's marijuana is a recreational is a legal recreational drug now just because it's a legal recreational drug just like alcohol you cannot drive while under the influence of any of these substances so um what ended up happening is that he was charged with attempted murder on a police officer he was charged with those crimes one of the reasons why is at least there's some evidence at least from what the sheriff is saying is there's some evidence that it was intentional so what is being reported and you can kind of see it in the surveillance video is that he was traveling approximately 30 miles an hour and as he approached this group of you know 75 people he accelerated um so they're they are taking that as some type of intent along with whatever other evidence they might have or questioning him but they charged him with uh attempted murder of police officers um and his bond was two million dollars however last night at about 10 pm they released him they let him go so there's actually a statute in California that essentially says that if you charge someone with homicide or murder or attempted murder one of these very serious violent crimes but you're not but you still want to continue the investigation there's a way to keep those charges pending but for the police department or the Sheriff's Office to actually release the individual so that's what they did they essentially released him last night um so he's free right now he's released but the charges are still pending when questioned about that sheriff viennaueva said that this is a complex investigation and that they definitely right now have enough for probable cause you know which is the standard for arrest however they wanted to work towards and build a solid case uh before you know he goes back into custody of having proof Beyond A Reasonable Doubt so if anything this seems like the Sheriff's Office and the investigators aren't just keeping someone in in jail on an arbitrary basis however they really want to try to build a case with actual evidence before they take away Mr gutierrez's Freedom any more than they already have I think that's probably the right thing to do now we have to think well what other evidence might they be waiting for we know that there was a crash we know that there were injuries if you know if he accelerated as he was going towards them you know that could be evidence of the of of of intent of the of the attempted murder why in the world what else are they waiting for so well the sheriff hasn't said but let's let's look at this a little bit the couple things that they might be waiting for are again we have four officers who are still in critical condition hopefully not obviously hopefully they all survive but if one of them does die from the injuries you know that would be a more serious charge also and this is my biggest guess is that they're waiting for the results of a blood test to see exactly what if any drugs were in the system um because they know that there's no alcohol a breath alcohol test that can be administered and those results are immediate however when it comes to blood tests for substance tests like marijuana or prescription dirt drugs or illegal drugs sometimes that could take days it could take weeks it could take months now this is obviously a high profile case I would not expect this to take months but yeah getting the blood results not only could it take weeks but then to look at what the blood results are to have someone from uh some type of a scientific lab um uh or a scientist be able to say yes this amount of marijuana or whatever medication or drug would actually impair someone so it's possible that those are the types of that the type of evidence that they're actually waiting for before they take him into custody again or they ramp up the charges against him so we will keep on that and our thoughts are going out to all of the officers and their families who were injured by this um horrible and just just absolutely senseless case uh let's see if we have any have any comments on this case um uh no one has let's see uh cue ball says marijuana stays in your system for a month LOL yeah Q uh Cube I can't see yeah that's absolutely correct you're 100 marijuana can stay in your system for a really long time um what I what I think what you mean by that is you know you can do a hair test or blood test and it'll show traces of marijuana in your system however I think there's a way for uh again this is why it's far more complicated than alcohol and that's why states have you know when it comes to driving drunken alcohol the legal limit is .08 well there is no you know per se limit or legal limit for marijuana so that's why you can't just have 0.08 you are considered to be intoxicated you're assumed to be intoxicated per the law that isn't the case with marijuana you know in in cases with with drugs driving cases you know I'm not saying this is the case here but in other drug driving cases you actually have to have a scientist a doctor a chemist to say yes this is the level not just that was in their system total but this is what was active in their system at the time and that amount would reasonably impair someone to drive a vehicle so drugged driving cases uh drug recognition expert cases for those of you who've gone through that kind of training uh those are far more complicated cases uh let's see um any other comments about that uh some people's out are out Loose skunked some people are out in a few days and others can stick around for six weeks yeah absolutely the marijuana it's a different thing it could stay in people's systems a different amount of time there's a lot of different factors and that so it could be more complicated so my guess is that the sheriff's office is waiting for some of that evidence to come in to have a concrete case again the sheriff said they definitely have probable cause to arrest but they're just looking for that evidence be uh to have solid evidence that is beyond a reasonable doubt before they go forward with charges and I'm never going to criticize a police department for being a little bit cautious and making sure that they have enough evidence to convict someone before they put someone behind bars I am totally good with that so that's the first case that I want to talk about and again hoping for a quick recovery for all of those uh potential officers that has to be has to be absolutely terrible um next case I want to talk about and this is this is a strange case you know just like a lot of a lot of um cases and this is one where it happened in Idaho and even now we have more questions than we have answers so this was at the University and I of Idaho and there was an off-campus how this happened the past week There's an off-campus house where I believe six young students all in their early 20s were living well um earlier this week an individual we think it was it was just one individual we're not sure went into this off-campus residence and stabbed to death four of these young college students um just stabbed them to death that's what their injuries that's what the evidence says that their injuries are that they died of stab wounds there were two different individuals uh residents you know um roommates in the house or in the in the in the residence that weren't injured at all and here some of the information that we're getting from police and you know a lot of times it's it's the reason why accurate information from the police doesn't always get to the public and that's for a couple reasons first of all the police simply might not know so if they don't know they really shouldn't tell us also since there is no suspect in custody you know they might sometimes police officers give false information to the public to the news media because they're hoping somehow in the investigation that it's going to draw out the offender um also you know they might say things that they think are true at the moment but then they could get more evidence and it ends up not being true so they have to correct their story so there's a lot of the end it's kind of like the telephone game that we've talked about before so you have stuff that comes from witnesses to a police officer to the news media and you know and then even if accurate information gets to the news media what's actually getting down to us is there any spin on that or is there any politics at play with that at all anyway so that's why some of the information in this case seems to be changing what we know for sure is that there are four Young dead college students and at the time there were two other students residents inside the house who police are saying we're not offenders they were not held hostage and they were not victims themselves of this in any way which seems strange because you would think that if someone is being stabbed there would be you know some loud noises evidence of of a struggle that somehow other people inside the residence you know would hear what's going on and you know the reason why that there's some evidence that maybe they didn't know what's going on is because all what the police are saying is that this happens sometime really late at night like sometime you know around three o'clock in the morning however there wasn't a call to police to come and investigate or um or that someone you know had been stabbed until noon the next day so these are just a lot of questions that we have to do now is it possible that that the two other roommates who were there were sleeping that that they're heavy sleepers that their rooms are in a far area or in a different floor of the residence and that's why they didn't hear anything sure I mean of course that's possible what we're hearing from the police department is that the two other roommates they actually are cooperating with police officers um it does show so the last two of the end individuals who were who were killed they are on surveillance camera video from a food truck at about 1 40 in the morning and what the business owner who helped them at the food truck and then also what's on the evidence what the police are saying on that video is that they're actually they don't at least those two people they ordered some food and they don't appear to be in distress in any way shape or form so what happened you know an hour to an hour and a half after that is just really just a mystery um there's no one in custody and there's no public suspect at first you know the reasonable questions that people had are well are we safe this is a College Community it's a college town are we safe so at first the police department put out a statement where they said you know that no one is in danger that you know there's no greater danger to the public which again when you have four people stabbed and no suspect in custody that seems strange to say that no one's in danger however as of last night the police department has actually changed that and they said that yes that everyone needs to stay vigilant that there could be a danger to the public my understanding is that because there's the Thanksgiving holiday coming up that a lot of the students who you know go to school there but live in other places they've all left the campus and essentially the campus is like a ghost town right now um so we will keep updated on that case because um uh yeah we need to get someone in custody for that and hopefully there's more going on behind the scenes with the police department one thing that I saw interesting on this is you know how a lot of times when these cases happen and they're unsolved is that you know these these sleuth detective people who are not real detectives but you know they're like internet sleuths where they just take on these True Crime cases and they just try to investigate it themselves um kind of like the Gabby Patito case and there were others as well um where you know communities of people try to get together and do independent investigations um apparently that's happening in this case as well so no matter who solves this case hopefully we can find the offender and get them into custody uh let's read another comment from Lou skunked this is why it's so difficult to get marijuana legalized because we are running into numerous issues with measuring the volume in a person's body then we have to create laws around it not in exact science yeah you are you are absolutely a hundred percent correct um yeah which is again why doing doing uh impaired driving cases at least not from police officers and from prosecutors doing an impaired driver case from the standpoint of someone being impaired by drugs illegal or prescription as opposed to alcohol is just far more difficult and far more complicated there um yeah and the science just Ascend the laws just haven't caught up with marijuana being legalized but it seems like it's being legalized everywhere so hopefully those advances in the scientific and legal community and in the police world do do come about because um that's that's incredibly important um uh if we're going to have marijuana legalized which I think it should be um you know we have to have the really the only thing we have to have is that you know along with that is reasonable laws to make sure that people aren't driving while they are impaired uh let's see Cru let's see uh what happened to my body my choice uh but the government should stay out of it yeah so I I let's take that comment a little bit further I think we talked about that last week how you know on a lot of people say my body my choice but they don't really believe it you know you have the people on the left who've been saying my body my choice forever and the people on the right kind of mocked them and then when covid came along and there were vaccine mandates you had the exact opposite you had people on the right saying my body my choice and people on the left mocking them so um yeah this is this is the the same kind of thing when it comes to marijuana you typically have more people on the left who are saying my body my choice you shouldn't throw me in a cage because of what I put in my own body which I tend to agree with so I guess where I'm at on this is the the argument of my body my choice I actually think it's a convincing argument um but I believe it when it comes to the pro-choice stuff when it comes to the vaccine mandate stuff and when it comes to marijuana if you are doing something that isn't hurting someone else especially like Mary marijuana as long as you're not driving on it I don't think the government should throw you in a cage for consuming a substance let's see uh Lou Scott one more comment many folks don't understand that as a lot of police officers they want marijuana legalized it'll make our jobs much easier to not have to enforce these outdated laws Lou that's a hundred percent you are absolutely correct like there are very few if any police officers who are just all ramped up and excited about uh enforcing a law that everybody knows is absolutely ridiculous no one is excited about that yes so if marijuana were legalized and police officers didn't have to deal with it or mess around with it I believe unless you work for the DEA or something like that most police officers uh would not oppose that because um what a lot of police officers want is we actually want they actually want less laws but more effective laws um you know so the people who are activating like actual crime and actually hurting people yeah we need really tough laws for them but you know a lot of the ridiculous laws you know know you probably shouldn't be calling the police because your neighbor's trash cans are parked in front of your driveway or something right so you know that's how a lot of police officers think loose I think you are absolutely correct so the next case I want to talk about and this is a little this is going to be police related maybe on the on the federal level but it's what happened with FTX and Sam bankman freed I just wanted to start off by saying that Sam bankman freed um you know he was the founder uh CEO of FTX cryptocurrency and essentially he went bankrupt uh the company went bankrupt the filed for bankruptcy on November 11th and just about billions and billions of dollars of customers and investors money just evaporated evaporated overnight and this case has a lot of ins and outs so I'm going to start off by saying that Sam Harris has a podcast he has a couple podcasts one of them is called waking up I really like Sam Harris so if you know Sam Harris he's the guy who went on Bill Maher years ago uh where Ben Affleck called him him a racist for saying that Islam is just saying that there's a problem with Islamic terrorism it was viral millions of views on it anyway so that's Sam Harris that I've kind of been following him since then really interesting guy but he actually had Sam bankman freed on his podcast about 13 months ago so at the end of 2021 and as I was listening to as as I was listening to um or getting ready for this uh the show today I actually went back and I listened to that podcast So I listened to about an hour of Sam bankman free talking on the Sam Harris podcast so I'm gonna try to get all of that into about three minutes here but essentially Sam bankman freed his he's 29 years old his parents are Stanford professors you know he pretty much lived this privileged life right and he's part of what's called essential altruism that's the community that he's a part of so what he was going around saying and it obviously this isn't true but what he was going around saying is that I want to get as rich as I possibly can and then once I met rich I I want to give it all away and that community that thought is called essential uh essential altruism EA that's what the community is called and that's kind of what Sam Harris's podcast was about but you know in creating this cryptocurrency uh platform essentially of what he did with FTX um you know he was he criticized on the podcast other cryptocurrency platforms because they he said that they weren't ethical that they weren't being regulated and he made a comment about yeah sometimes they're losing a million dollars a day well he just he just lost billions of dollars for his investors so essentially this is like the typical Ponzi scheme this is the best way that I can explain it a typical Ponzi scheme so not only did he have FTX cryptocurrency exchange but he had all these other companies one of them was called like Alameda research um I believe he was a part owner but I think his girlfriend um was actually the principal owner of that and what he was doing is this Alameda company and other companies like like it we're taking really risky bets Financial risky bets on different cryptocurrencies and the way they were paying for those is money that would come in through FTX exchange was going to pay for the risky bets uh from the Alameda and the other companies uh so when those risky bets didn't pay off that's when everything crashed down what's important to note about Sam bankman freed is that not not only is he was he you know up until recently he was worth at 29 years old he was worth 22 billion dollars six weeks ago so not that long ago six weeks ago he was on the cover of Forbes Magazine and he was called the next Warren Buffett so his his Fall From Grace is is absolutely just so quick and so crazy and how no one caught on it has to be just an unbelievably suspicious thing he was also leading up to the midterms the number two uh the number two contributor to the Democrat party so he donated 38 million dollars to democrat-run Pax in order to fund Progressive candidates after George Soros he was the he was the the top Democrat donor so the important question to ask and you know so uh the way he was getting his money was from these fraudulent Investments you know from uh from FTX cryptocurrency exchange that he was doing strange things in illegal with seemingly illegal things with money so the question that I think we all have to ask is how many Democrat candidates how many elections how many of those races were won that were funded by this fraudulent money uh that that's an important question to ask now that the Republicans have control of Congress hopefully these are some of the questions that they're going to ask it's also important to note that within the last couple months Sam bankman freed he had private meetings with bought two different private meetings with Biden's top advisor uh top advisor in the white house and he also has done many different benefits with Bill Clinton uh so obviously a lot of and so Bill Clinton let me say he doesn't have a great track record of um uh talking about like new uh entrepreneurs and investors and uh philanthropy people who are into uh giving to giving to charity if you think about it Bill Clinton was was big on Elizabeth Holmes Jeffrey Epstein and now out Sam bankman free so the next time that Bill Clinton really props up some new Young um investor who's donating a lot of money um just assume that there's something Shady behind it because Bill Clinton doesn't have a great track record so well now that all these people have lost I mean billions of dollars just evaporated this is going to end up being bigger than Enron that's how much money is going to end up being lost by investors and customers more than Enron so obviously a lot of these people as soon as they filed bankruptcy you know obviously attorneys started to file class action lawsuits and what's interesting is that they're not just filing class action lawsuits against Sam bankman freed and FTX but also a lot of their sponsors so here's the people who were essentially doing commercials and brand ambassadors for FTX Steph Curry Shaquille O'Neal um uh Tom Brady Giselle and Larry David there were there were more but there were these are the ones uh that who are being named specifically in the class action lawsuit uh let's see if we have any questions or comments on that uh let's see nope we don't so um yeah so I think it's just interesting so I know I'm my guess is that ever is Sam bakeman Freight he's still free right now he's living in the Bahamas and he isn't he isn't in custody right now with anything but he is um uh it's likely that every three letter agency is going to be descending on him uh and you would expect some criminal charges that when billions of dollars just evaporate that you would assume that there are some levels of fraud there you just we have to ask you know has he already paid off the people who might be the ones investigating him so we'll definitely keep on that story because Sam bankman freeze is probably going to go down as the biggest con man in the United States history with how much money he stole uh so I wanted to see if there's any comments about Sam bankman freed in cryptocurrency but I think it's a it's an important case to uh to to to to to talk about um also we had the final sentencing hearing for Daryl Brooks so Daryl Brooks we've talked about him a lot on this case that on this show because he was the Waukesha mass murderer you know last year at the Christmas parade in Waukesha Wisconsin he drove his red Ford SUV for absolutely no reason into the Christmas parade he injured 62 killed six including at least one child he hit uh members of the the dancing grannies which people always talk about so he was convicted a couple weeks ago of all 76 charges so now it came to the sentencing which was this weekend you know really the only thing that we were kind of interested to see what was going to happen because he was already convicted is is how the sentencing was going to play out here's what I mean by that so there's a couple different ways that people can be sentenced let's say so I think Daryl Brooks you know six of the charges that he faced were life sentences you know because he killed six people so each one let's say each life sentences I don't know let's just say 20 years it's not until you die it's 20 25 30 years so let let's say the life sentence is 20 years well if you have six of those you know typically what what happens is that those are served concurrently meaning at the same time meaning you know if you start on November 20th of 2022 you know all of those 20-year sentences that you're going to serve them all at the same time so in 20 years the individual can get out you know so whether you have if it's concurrent whether you have one life sentence of 20 years or 50 it's the same 20-year block so you do in 20 years right but what the prosecutors argued for they argued hey this crime was absolutely so heinous that it would be disrespectful to the victims to kind of lump them all together that's saying well you know we're just going to give him the 120 or 25 year sentence that you know the victims actually deserve more and the prosecutor asked the judge hate to show the how heinous this was and how much the victim's lives actually mattered the the prosecutor asked that they be conserved that the sentences be served consecutively essentially stacked on top of each other one at a time and when the judge did the sentence this week that's exactly what she did she sentenced him concurrently I'm sorry she sentenced him consecutively on all these charges I think it ends up to somewhere over a thousand years and you know this was really just a symbolic uh move by the judge to essentially say this behavior is not acceptable and this is what you're going to get for it so Daryl Brooks said over a thousand years which um you know I think this is cases like kids are one good reason to have the death penalty but if not this is the absolute next best thing they also had some of the victims of the victim's family come and talk at the sentencing hearing and you know there's one victim whose mother died in this in this horrible crash um and you know I think and I I I'll put a link to the to the video um in the comments section after the show but it's really just an important statement where where he the his biggest problem besides the fact that his mother died and one of the biggest problems he had with Daryl Brooks and he was very emotional very emotional about it is he said that at some point Daryl Brooks during the trial he said that he had a clear conscience he had a clear conscience about this and this gentleman said you are a monster you are a demon he said how can you have a clear conscience about what happened and it was things like that statements like that from Daryl Brooks not just what he did but his attitude and the things that he said about having a clear conscience and how the court was against him I think it's things like that that absolutely 100 factored in to him getting the the the consecutive sentences uh let's see um uh uh Cru says that man was mentally ill I don't think he was fit to stand trial uh I think he was nuts when he did it he had a history yeah so that's a really good point so he actually did go through a psychological evaluation to determine whether or not he's fit to stand trial and yes Mr Brooks absolutely has mental illness um that's another thing I was going to say is that both his mother and his grandmother testified um during the sentencing on his behalf via Zoom I watched both of those um both of those testimonies and um neither the mother or the grandmother were trying to defend Daryl Brooks or saying was okay what he did but essentially they talked about his mental health how how you know he had uh by bipolar disorder and other things and you know that was the reason for that he's not an evil person it's this mental illness so no I don't think anyone disputes that Daryl Brooks is mentally ill but mentally ill is different from being competent to stand trial so really all the looking at when it comes to being competent to stand trial is do you understand the charges against you now there's more to it it's the McNaughton test is what is given there's different factors to that but you know base level essentially it's do you have the capacity to understand the charges against you so if you understand the charges against you then you are competent to stand trial so again the McNaughton test has a little bit more to it than that but that's a pretty a pretty um a one sentence version of what they're actually of what they're actually looking for there and he was and he actually represented himself in this in this in this case um he didn't do a great job but even watching a few minutes and some of the questions that he was asking and some of the objections he clearly understood the charge against him not a legal scholar but he clearly understood the charge against him um you know and that's you know when you when you say that you're going to be your own attorney and you know he had to go through hearings in order to make that happen um but you know he basically had to acknowledge knowledge that he's competent to stand trial not only did he have to show that he was competent to stand trial so he made the argument earlier in the case that he was competent to stand trial and competent enough to be his own defense attorney so um he was confidential even though yes he absolutely is a hundred percent uh mentally ill uh let's see any other comments on that um he may have a crafty says he may have mental illness but not severe enough to know right from among yeah that's a really good way to put it do you know right from wrong can you understand the charges um that um that you have against you so yeah I think that's absolutely correct um you know I I do think that it was uh I do think that it was the uh uh right thing to do um for the judge to find that he was competent Central now let's say he wasn't competent to stand trial well then what what happens then so not being competent to stand trial if that would have happened kind of at the beginning of the case it's not that okay you're not competent you you go free no no that isn't what happens if the prosecution can show that the individual is dangerous which killing six people and injuring 62 more that would be pretty easy to do essentially what would have happened if he wasn't competencent trial is he would have gone into some type of a Mental Health institution um he would not have been free and he basically would have been held there given treatment until he was found competence now that could be 10 years 20 years 40 years he could be there forever and then once he was found so just being found not competent doesn't give you a get out of jail free card um you would just have to be in a mental institution or some other treatment facility where you know you're essentially in custody um it's not jail but and you're there until you are competent to stand trial and if you never ever Compton to stand trial you never get out so um that's you know essentially what would have happened now had he made had his defense spend not reason uh Not Guilty by reason of of insanity or temporary insanity had that been the legal theory behind his defense and then after that if he was found not guilty by reason of insanity well then at that point yes absolutely then he might be able to be free but that was not his legal defense that was not the legal strategy um that he undertook uh let's see uh Cru I'm saying he was not competent when he ran them over um okay so Cru let's let's delve deep into that a little bit so not competent when he ran them over so so a couple pieces of evidence would um basically be in contrast to that and it's essentially so if he wasn't confident so once he crashed into all those people if he just stopped and he stood there and he waited for police and you know he was just and he was confused about what had happened and didn't know where he was does and he was having a disassociation where he was you know up here looking down at his body driving the car I think we maybe we can go down that road but no after the crash what he did is he ran from the scene and he was actually ringing people's doorbells trying to get people to take him inside because he was hiding from police so he had the in so after he did the crash after he committed these crimes he had the he had the knowledge he had the intent he had the knowledge that he did something wrong because he fled and he had the intent to actively try to get away from police officers so even though he's mentally ill hundred percent he's mentally ill he's he's a crazy person he knew what he did was wrong because he ran from the scene so I think it would have been very I think this is why you know especially like the initial legal defense just didn't go with this because it's very easy to see that in the moments after the crash he was making conscious decisions to get away from police officers um okay so uh moments in trading Lori day Bell vallo was recently restored declared competence and trial after two years of not being confidential absolutely moments in trading thank you so much and I I've got to say the Lori valo case we haven't really covered it on the show but that's kind of like my guilty pleasure like I love the Lori valo kid it's a horrible sad case but anything that has to do with like religious maniacs and Cults I just think it is so interesting so um thank you for bringing that up I think on the next show I'll do a recap of the Lori fallow case because you know me and my wife we watch 48 hours and 60 minutes and anytime there's a new show on Lori valo and Chad day Bell I have to watch it it's just like it is like uh junk food for the brain I absolutely think that case is so interesting uh Cru don't mean to argue just sharing thoughts I didn't take it as an argument and I appreciate the pushback and the thoughts so um again sometimes I'm not seeing things correctly and um sometimes there are definitely subject matter experts um on the live here who know more than me about different things so um I I see are you I absolutely uh appreciate the back and forth that's the kind of discussion and debate that I I really like that I really think is interesting so um thank you um so I know that we're getting into uh Thanksgiving here this week and I hope that everyone has a hope that everyone has a good and safe Thanksgiving and you know one of the things that um one of the things that you know you have around Thanksgiving is you know a lot of times you have some more some down time you know maybe you're traveling to traveling to visit family but you know there could be a little bit of down time so you know I just want to encourage everyone to you know try to do something positive go for a run read a book reconnect with family and kids um if you are interested in reading a book I just want to give a book recommendation really quick um so last week I just finished Andy knows NGO Angie knows book uh it's called unmasked it's essentially essentially Andy no is a journalist who goes out and he became famous and Infamous during the during the summer rise of 2020 he would basically um document film and take pictures of antifa um while they were rioting through the city in destroying towns all over the country but he was mostly in the Portland area um he got beat up and attacked and it suffered really serious injuries um you know after he was uh just you know being a journalist and documenting a lot of the the terrorism that that they were doing upon communities out there um and you know he's he's uh he's a journalist he still does this work he does uh he's written a book about it it's called unmasked it's really good um and just one thing about it a lot of people say that you know well like he's probably exaggerating like well he has an agenda he was attacked by these people so how do we know what he's saying is true and I I just want to put out there so there is one chapter in the book and you know I was thinking that too as I was reading it I think he's a really good writer and journalist I've been following him for a while but I'm like how much of this stuff is actually real and then it came to one chapter in the book where he talks about a couple years ago you know I think a year and a half ago two years ago there were wildfires in California and some people in the right wing media and in the mainstream media were blaming antifa we're saying it was these antifa terrorists who were you know starting the starting these Wildfire so Andy Andy no he did an investigation and he talked to his sources and he basically came out the other end and said hey there's no evidence to this and he went on he went on the news and he was basically saying that no we shouldn't blame them for this so you know kind of what I look at when when I would see their a commentator or an author if they say something and if it's in if it's in direct and if it hurts their narrative so if it doesn't help their narrative I think I'm more likely to believe what they have to say so the fact that he wrote almost an entire chapter of how antifa was blamed for this horrible thing but he's making the argument don't blame them they didn't do it we have to be honest I like that kind of stuff when it comes to authors and people that I listen to so um Andy knows unmasked I think it's a real a real interesting thing to do and because it's Thanksgiving I just want to give a couple of ideas to people to you know in case there isn't enough to argue about with your crazy uncle Jim at the dinner table here's a couple things that you know just to make sure everyone knows um let's say hang out Adam Golson objectivity and journalism feels rare these days it absolutely does Adam thank you so much I agree 100 but in case there isn't enough to argue about you know at the dinner table on Thanksgiving I just want to throw out a couple different ideas so um Trump announced that he was going to run for president he did that this past week this past Tuesday so I know a lot of people have thoughts on that I think that would be interesting um the Republicans are going after Hunter Biden there was a press conference yesterday where Republican members in Congress said that they have some solid evidence from whistleblowers that um Joe Biden was involved with Hunter Biden's uh business dealings while Joe Biden was the vice president so we'll have to see if there are going to be any criminal charges from that um I think it's also fun to do like a compare and contrast you know who's more competent Joe Biden or John fetterman and then whoever wins that let's see who's more competent them or Herschel Walker so I think these are fun kind of games to play also Elon Musk you know his basically Twitter's been a lot of people from Twitter have been working remotely for a really long time and Elon Musk just came out and essentially said everybody has to come back to work so a lot of people are upset and irritated with that one of the interesting things that Elon Musk said is that you know he's like you know in the other companies I have Tesla and SpaceX he said there are some people who actually do work remote he said but it's rare and it's on a case-by-case basis Elon Musk said that you know he believes that the working remotely that that the communication just isn't as good it's more difficult he said so you have to be such an exceptional employee to overcome that so he said you know this is going to be an exception for exceptional people to continue the remote work so a lot of people are irritated and pissed off about that um I also want to say that our country it's not a perfect country you know uh but we do there are no racist laws on the books now which is a good thing and we actually have a lot to be thankful for I just want to point to what's happening in Iran so not long ago in Iran a 16 year old girl was arrested by police officers because she violated their insane ridiculous dress code she was showing too much skin she was arrested by Iranian police and she actually 16 year old girl she actually died in police custody since then there were all kinds of protests and riots which is an absolutely great thing because it seems like some of these people are kind of waking up that this you know this religious uh the the these religious Maniacs who run this country and impose all these insane laws on us maybe it's not a good thing um so you know there were all kinds of protests over the last couple weeks and months in Iran and recently the one of the courts in Iran has found a lot of these people guilty and sentenced 15 000 of them to death so whether or not Iran is actually going to kill 15 000 people or not per protesters who were out there protesting this horrible death so if they've actually sentenced them to death whether or not it'll happen we'll see I think the outcry from the International Community would just be so extreme if they did this so we'll see but just know there are places in the world where you know not everybody does have equal rights and I just want to point to Iran so we do have a lot to be thankful about and with that I'm going to sign off and um I hope that everyone has a great happy and safe Thanksgiving and if you haven't already please make sure you subscribe to the channel and um have a good weekend thank you
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