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how you doing Dennis nice to meet you what do you work for uh I'm a recovery agent oh okay hasn't been over here it's quiet put your Patrol out here or something uh I basically I come out and like make my presence known uh a lot of folks out here you know they're always on on something or have warrants or anything like that oh I said so basically I just come out here I mean I rolled with them the other night oh okay cool cool so you contracted through young town or you just uh I've worked for the State of Arizona oh you work with the state Arizona oh so you like DPS sort of how would you explain how did you explain Baal oh you're not building enforcement work but basically so basically for for me anyways I don't just do like Bail Bonds companies I contracted the state okay so like if the marshals have something they don't want to go pick them up they'll be like here take this file go get the stuff if uh local police department like I have a Glendale Glendale warrant right now I'm gonna be like hey come pick this guy up like all right cool we got it uh so basically I just I go in like Cruise areas like I was at a 35th Avenue in our Camelback last night shootings car accidents you name it and basically you know I know PD and stuff is stretched thin so I'll respond to scenes because I'm also a firefighter okay so I respond to scenes and that's my normal day job okay firefighters what department you work for uh I'm actually out of show list man that's a ways out you volunteer fire or you're like fully certified oh wow okay what's your position there are you like a engineer I mean but what do you do for the fire department I'm just a basic firefighter um you run medical you drive a rig you do engineering so it's always it's always different uh because everybody's cross-trained okay small town okay so we have to have like a specific engineer would that make sense oh I mean we have a specific Captain but that's about it so y'all like almost like rural almost basically okay okay that's what's up that's cool they let you put lights on that thing or what take those yeah yeah you got red and blues on there yeah on the rear red and White's in the front oh for sure that's what's up [Music] yeah I like uh Suburbans man is nice I mean it's spacious I'm six foot three yeah and I mean if I gotta jump out I ain't trying to jump out another tiny little car like this Push the door and break the door off yeah that's what's up man I mean I literally throw that thing in park and jump out the car and start running we've done it before so that's what's up man that's nice man it's clean too no dents no dings I mean it looks nice though man we got the ding on the side other than that I mean but that's the kind of car you want though when you're putting a fuses in the back huh you got a caged up too damn that's nice I'll either uh depending on like if they're light on this stuff you know your rear uh windshield wipers off it's just messed up like that yeah it looked like a little nub like you know somebody don't have an arm is it just on and off every so often that's crazy bro we don't know how to do it okay I don't know either you might have pulled a fuse for it at least probably that's what's up that's nice bro yeah we know what's going on man because we got some people running around out here we got a bunch of jokers I just can't I just went to the kitchen uh you guys had some people in the corner back there I drove up saw people on bikes so I I figure Something's Gonna go down soon enough oh that's what's up man that [ __ ] nice man well I have a Tahoe so that's why yeah always like this body type I had a Crown Vic before this and he did have the cage and stuff oh yeah but I was just too big for it I mean [ __ ] uh if I'm running full gear full vest and everything I mean it's just it's harder for me to get out it's like this I'm sure you probably yeah I gotta struggle getting it out of yeah like the stairway I could just jump in slide my butt in we're good to go like yeah I get caught on the steering wheel quite a bit yeah okay that's what's up man can I see your lifespan [ __ ] I got the siren put in the other night dude 20 bucks from Amazon oh nice there's just one falling on the other side right there what like one is falling on that other side yeah this is nice bro I said you got the halo lights from uh the upgrades I bought the car like this I cannot wait for these halo lights to go okay that's what's up 20 sirens and loud I had to run because last night a couple times I can hear the thing over my radio full blast it was no joke oh so you could you run traffic code too you got title 28. oh when I'm going to car accident stuff I run Cody because I'm a firefighter other than that I'm gonna get uh funeral escort [ __ ] oh you should get like some side lights for this thing too I ordered the running board lights and I want some here and then I got the license plate cover coming through oh that's what's up hopefully we'll get the whole shebling these were just to like a temporary because I had just bought in this vehicle a couple weeks ago so dang how long you been in the business man I've been doing bail for four years and firefighter fatigue okay so you live up in Show Low uh I did I just moved back down here ah okay okay I only traveled to Show Low when they they have wildfires right now so okay yeah that's what's up man job done so y'all just be out here like just looking for people or just pulling them over like so like the other night when I was like you guys stop somebody if I like like we had that I wanted to search those guys into the backpack so bad we had some guys I can tell he had stuff on him like just how nervous he got when we rolled up I didn't have gloves on me that night though and this guy had fentanyl on him so I definitely wasn't touching his ass yeah yeah I wouldn't I wouldn't I got a box of latex on the truck too so oh that's what's up yeah we try to I know we can't Pat people down so we just move them off or we'll just have shares come out and trespassing but they don't want to leave a little difficult because a lot of places don't have the signs that they're supposed to have so yeah they'll have to trespassing yeah even though I mean it's common knowledge if you read the ARs I mean it's pretty cut and dry on trespassing but it just depends on what I try to do as much as possible without the sheriffs coming out just I know they're already [ __ ] slammed into this okay I was like what's your name again bro Anthony Anthony that's right I was getting ready to call you Justin my bad you kind of look like more of a Justin and that's what's up bro which so you say you're out patrolling tonight huh I just got done in my area and he was like Hey we're out here I forgot you guys worked yeah we're out here seven days a week or seven days a week and my neck I have like the next week no three days off well at four o'clock I'm heading to Yarnell so where's your aunt Nella up north I don't know I've never been did you ever hear about the Granite Mountain Fire yeah yeah that's where I'm going oh okay okay it's in the city of Yarnell oh God the movie okay I got a bit I got the jizz yeah yeah no I don't know if you bring it up just out of the blue I'm going out there for uh fire prevention I get to go cut down all those big trees hey and that's pretty cool so how do you get paid man this sounds interesting or which part well I guess what you're doing right now so bail yeah or or like you're out of a patrol company so oh okay I get paid uh usually it's paid by Warren okay so when you're like when you're out on patrol and stuff like I pay myself oh you just out here my I'm basically out here to to make the presence known that somebody's at oh at the end of the day I mean like in my my neighborhood I'll drive around for a couple hours every night just I mean well where I live we got prostitutes for days so I'll just drive around until get off the road you know stuff like that oh okay basically just making your presence now now fire on the other hand is different yeah that's just great I get paid per day so 500 a day well that's nice so you got a contract with the state of Arizona for like to pick up on warrants and stuff that's pretty cool that's pretty cool but otherwise it's a regular Patrol it's just like you being a good Samaritan design basically check it okay that's crazy a Good Samaritan who can arrest people for sure you ever pull anybody over no I mean the only time I'll like pull up behind somebody uh would be like the incident the other night when we had somebody stalled out in the middle of the road oh so I liked it up again that's kind of Good Samaritan stuff if I gotta pull somebody over I'm already on the phone with Petey and chairs trying to get them out there before I pull them over nice nice damn son yeah you doing your thing man that's what's up that [ __ ] that's so weird for me though it's just like yeah I wish they could turn it off it's kind of like a you ever see RoboCop yeah and when they cut his arm off it was all like still moving yeah it's like did you take that off or it came like that oh it came like that that's gonna find all the replacements bro that's weird bro that freaked me out be walking past my car and it just I'm like oh that's what I did the first kill I was like what the I was like what was that sound I look back and it's like waving and then every time like I'll be stopped uh like I have friends following me something why is your car waving at us I don't know I was trying to say hi that's funny and it won't go off like you hit that little switch on the steering column switch on the steering console and it's still nothing and we can't find the fuse it's not labeled in the Dank fuse box but is it it was not on when the car is off right no that's off in the car okay but at least it ain't killing your battery or nothing like that okay I don't want to turn my car off I mean they stopped so it won't kill the battery when the car's not running anyways that's crazy this is nice though I always thought about getting a suburban and like so I got from back east blacking it out doing it like how the Secret Service did theirs you know just black on black you got the the like the bullet spray on the windows and stuff like that uh so my back my back windows not the rear window my back windows and the back uh passenger windows are all the uh like completely blacked out like you can barely see in we can see out the rear in the front are or the front's not even tinted the rears were like if you flash a light in you can see okay other than that well you have like the limo tint yeah not in the back but on the sides I try oh so you gotta Shine from this way but you can't look out of it though I mean you can't look in it oh yeah that's crazy yeah that's nice and dark I like that that's crazy Gabe was telling me about it and I'll say I know you know because we uh we're contracted with the city as their patrol so I was like man that sound pretty cool man you can get license like that that's pretty cool it's a nice little break for bail too yeah I used to be I let mine expires too saturated like I worked for uh didn't do it for a little while it's called didn't do it real quick that's what it was called that's funny that's original name I guess okay now we're gonna get back to it bro I'm just going I mean unless yeah I want to kick it or whatever I'm just chilling that's pretty cool man I like that got the red and blues and everything the cyber yeah man be careful because I know we had a lot of shootings out here man I was just saying oh my goodness hey funny story last night [Music] at the same time Phoenix who are you FBI yeah Dan do I really look that up I was like damn do I really look like that no future recovery man like I just heard the call over the radio came over to see the hell was going on that's what's up that's cool at least you got some cool cops they don't mind you coming out there you know some cops be bro some on a little sketchy I'm not breaking any laws yeah yeah and that's what's up man I would just be careful bro keep your head on the swivel because they've been targeting law enforcement lately or anybody who resembles it yeah every time I have to call PD I think make sure you're not seen the hell you mean make sure I'm not saying I'm already out with these guys yeah man yeah be careful man especially out here young town like we uh most of these guys we know them but you know we gotta be a little careful it's good to not be known for our line of work for sure just um just it's kind of nowhere here you don't want to you don't want to know us though yeah all right I'll let you get back to Amina stop you nothing bro man I missed the rain out here earlier or yesterday well I heard it dump somewhere like right over here I heard my Master's on Snapchat at some concert and it was like dumping over there Glendale it went too uh right by the drive-in they have that four-way intersection maybe like here full of water wow yeah I have to stop in the middle of it wow has somebody lost their bumper in the middle right in the middle of the intersection I had to get out and move the damn bumper wow and you can't see 10 cars ahead at 10 feet ahead of you I turned my yellow and whites on and uh everybody was just like nobody could drive it was accident after accident I like I said I had two shootings [ __ ] ton of accidents last night when it rains here nobody drives nobody knows how to drive no it's like snowing that's why I love shooting that's how I love shallow when it snows people know how to drive because they're they live in it they come down here nobody knows how to drive they like Flagstaff a lot of the even though they're [ __ ] College colleges they've been there something went to before don't know how to drive so they'll have maybe 50 people that don't know how open is it from the college but the rest of us all the funk you know that on me from Wyoming I've driven it like practically every day uh my favorite chance in your head if you're not under arrest I think that's gonna poke me stick me stably no nothing no you're here [Music] leg straight I mean what does he have to gain from telling us that you're making threat to me how was it he was the one saying he's the one that started I told him he's gonna talk all that [ __ ] that's the only thing I ever said is fine can you tell us what happened well I would check it out like the security guard from Circle K he was being a little [ __ ] you know like and talking [ __ ] to me like that tall dude that one with the glasses okay uh he was coming up to me all weird like really offending me and like I was just explaining to him well I'm not gonna kick her out I'm just talking [ __ ] because I'm talking [ __ ] you know and he put me in uh he called the Securities and the Securities pulled up and the other guy pulled up the other one that you're talking about he pulled up and he put me in handcuffs he was like you got like a warrant or something arrest for your a warrant for your arrest and stuff and I was just like well I'm gonna run my name so you should have to do it he was just like being an [ __ ] checking my pockets and like you sure you don't have enough if you put your hat if you like I put my hand he's like put your hand behind your head after I hug you like if if you Flinch I'm gonna ask this guy to tase you did all that for me did he ever identify himself he never said I'm a cop I asked him what had happened because I seen him in cups oh you were there too I seen him when they had him he had his hand behind his hat back he was cuffed sitting on the curb and asked him who are they because I thought it was security because I don't have an authority to um because I thought it was him he told me no they're Bail Bonds only they I'd like already yeah so he told you he had a warrant before you gave him your information yeah and then did he ask you for your name and your date of birth and all that and you gave it to him and then did he ever put you in the back of his car no no a truck or his truck yeah didn't even Explore it was an Explorer yes okay like was it like like this size or bigger it was just the regular uh Caravan like the regular one the small one what was unmarked it didn't happen anymore he didn't have his did he have red and blue lights on no he's had like regular lights what was he wearing square like this jeans like this regular uh cargo pants and a regular shirt and he had a vest he didn't look like law enforcement he had a cap on it too you didn't have beer he was wearing a vest yeah like a vest like these yeah but it was black okay did it say anything on it did you notice anything on it it was uh that's what I was looking for I didn't see any kind of identifying marks Did you ever see a badge no so he never had a badge he never identified himself as law enforcement no did he ever say I'm a bail bondsman no he never said anything he just he immediately came up to you and told you to put your hands behind your back and put your handcuffs yeah I think did you feel like you were free to leave at that point not really I didn't feel comfortable because she was kind of being an ass to me you know he couldn't leave they had him on right so by being handcuffed succeeded did you feel like you were detained yeah you're not entertainment right now you are arrested but right now so he had you in handcuffs he told you you weren't detained yeah but he said that you were under arrest yeah he never did he tell you his name or anything like that right on the side you're like right outside yeah we're gonna go over there and talk to them and the security that the tall uh black guy okay yes uh works that night he seemed at all too okay he'll be talking a lot of [ __ ] like like he's hard or something like I understand he has to be a little bit you know like formal with everyone and and tell him you know to get off property and all that right and he goes off too far like you know he goes too much like to to have a conflict going on you know we were going over there to talk to him unlawfully detained you and a crime was committed against him like I said if he he don't like admitted a crime against you would you be willing to Aid in prosecution against him as a victim yes you would be willing to end prosecution okay so he's gonna get your name and your date of birth and we're gonna put you in as a victim okay just in case if we have to do an investigation obviously so if we see him we're not just gonna go arrest him right we have to do some investigating get everybody's statements and then if and if an arrest is made on him if we identify a crime has been committed you would be willing to prosecute against them yeah all right cool if you just want to give him his name we'll get you out of here all right yeah that's fine I'll give you my ID what do you mean Prosecuting the state yeah so we just have to fill it um yeah like uh it's just it's easier if we have a Bitcoin more data is on there is if he wants to withdraw his testimony and doesn't want to prosecute anymore it just be that much harder for us but it doesn't mean that yeah [Applause] me [Applause] I know and I told him that when I see them yeah yeah no I get it so based on the allegations obviously like I said that's why my sergeants out here that's why we're happy that we were able to locate him so that we can get a statement because if he's going around doing this to other people and he's not affiliated with law enforcement then yeah he's absolutely yeah it was the previous night not last night the night before yeah we're good can you tell us where we're now so I'm not sure exactly what had happened before opinion got on site because you know security guard is saying one thing the other guy's saying another but what we got on site I mean they were just going back and forth about it opinion took over uh I'm a recovery agent so I I got that person yet um so if you said you ran that guy how'd you run it I just called DPS oh I did for like a couple minutes I don't know I clearly always say that I am a which I always say we're a cello work down here I do all their like Phoenix Glendale Scottsdale all of their like if somebody lives in your iPhone here if you're like a cello they'll Bond you out most of some people like say you're traveling there from down here basically yeah or they run down here to hide from us something like that anything like that so I mean I have absolutely no problem showing you guys all that I make that very clear like how do you like if you were to come up to me how would you introduce yourself efficiently I go my name is Anthony Harper I'm a fugitive recovery agent for the State of Arizona Department of Insurance exactly what I say every single time love you I'm kind of knew what the Bell recovery thing you guys look for your licensed by the state or outside so we're registered we're not really licensed it's a registered here I can do personally or like the bail bonds me if you work for me personally so basically the way that you do it is uh you fill out an application you get fingerprinted they send that to the FBI a couple weeks later you got a plot or got approved didn't get approved and then when you work for a bond company they need to give you this form right here that basically says it here utilizing you in the state of Arizona and basically it's got my name my address like everything like that so basically you guys can or whoever can get a hold of foreign yeah so she's she runs the whole company I'm just a contract contractor basically and what all do you guys do this oh we pick up like I I have I mean we think of your guys's work sometimes same here I'm gonna I don't have my firearm anything on me yeah the state will give us stuff like this guy was bonded out through the courts but his like missed court they asked us to pick him up and I think that's actually one of your business that's true that's because he had fun right but it wasn't it wasn't like bonded out like to a bond company he just paid bail like straight up at the board because I think it was like 100 bucks so in order to pick somebody up that you've got to have like four people yeah they have to so the only so when I'm out doing stuff like that with like the security guards and stuff the only reason I would ever run somebody is to see if they have warrants I don't ever go out and just a rescue fun or anything like that I mean everything I do is in the preview of my Dropship do you have a security guard license I don't for GPS I wasn't acting as a security guard why were you hanging out with me I just have I was in the area that night looking for somebody I spoke to a lieutenant that night too and I mean I went out to him I introduced myself everything like that um so but I was just I was operating in the area because we were actually looking for this guy what was the dude doing that you detained I guess he was threatening the security guard out there you know what happened with that when I got on scene he kept saying that the security guard that he was trespassed from the Circle K before security guard to ask him to leave uh and then I guess he called somebody while talking to the security guard basically making a threatening call or threatening calls like hey this guy's gonna come do this uh and then he kept saying the security guard was saying it so it was like up in the air and how did you know something was going on well I was at the Q2 with security basically I just drove over with them yeah we were looking for somebody to skip on them on let's go over here just helping them out basically how did you introduce yourself to uh guys at the team my name's Anthony Harper Beach recovery agent for the State of Arizona Department of Insurance I literally say the same thing no matter what every time I meet anybody surprised if I told you that yourself is Officer Harper with the state of Arizona I don't know what I'm saying that but I mean that's still the same thing I'll get you the recovery officer in the state of Arizona so what's the difference between an officer and an agent I'm not sure statute defines the middle Recovery Agent yeah if someone doing the duties you've just talked about the other one right now picking up people to skip their if I introduce myself to you as officer yeah what would you think here at police officer so like for my best when I'm wearing like all of my stuff it says officers as usual recovery officer what what's the proper title so that you have there's multiple like distinguish people call us for future recovery officers talking about the legal Recovery Agent mail Recovery Agent mail recovery officer I've heard of like 40 million ways to make sure I'm clear if I introduce myself to you again officer Paul with the state of Arizona and I can see where that can get so why did you use the word officers I don't ever say that usually usually it's literally like my whole speech featuring Recovery Agent occasion recovery officer something along those lines and what Authority do you have as a male Recovery Agent somebody had handcuffs and restrain them arrest them I never arrested him that could easily be a citizen's arrest for what threatening remarks Arizona no what authorities would you ever restrain that guy and then I guess it was it I didn't have anything to do I mean I could I could detain somebody to run them and that's what I did I called DPS you can detain anybody to run I can do change I mean if you were committing like a felony or something sure and you introduce yourself as officer the officer Harper with the state of Arizona so what do you think that guy thought and that was definitely not what I was like going for I mean I could show you my vest my vest doesn't say any like I didn't have any of my stuff online I do literally this is all it was I had my bill that tree here what about your body cameras you got your badge with you right now I didn't have my body came with it did you get your badge with you right now you'd normally do this is just I was riding around last night okay what else do you do besides the Bell recovery stuff firefighter yes sir who do you work for I'm a wildland firefighter Wildland yes sir okay I'm actually heading to Yarnell I was supposed to leave at five was that through the state or is that through a particular agency or what is it uh uh Ultra got forestry okay I'm not all clear on the smoke jumping so uh Wildland stuff basically they they have forestry then you got contractors I'm on the contractor side okay so you're just so I can make the distinction in my mind for myself you don't ride around like the big engine like you know if we called Phoenix fire and you know how they roll out all the ladder truck and all that like that all that crap we were a lot in the Wildland because you guys got like four by four stuff too right now we have what we do but we have like normal lunch and stuff oh okay okay you mind if I look at your car real quick yes what do you got lights for uh when I do like I just for accidents and stuff you got you got lights for accidents and stuff yeah I mean I what if I'm driving I don't pull people over or anything like that are you are you a paramedic EMT kind of stuff or what's the deal uh I'm in the EMT volunteer firefighter and chill though okay so you actually work for Show Low Fire Department fire department okay do they equip you with the lights yep they do yeah okay you've never used to pull everybody over or anything like that I don't do that stuff I don't try to impersonate police I actually have an application in with Avondale police yeah what what do you mind hitting your lights for me just so I can see what color they are if you don't mind [Applause] what's what the back look like did The Backs light up that'll work no okay where do you got the radio from what was that where do you have the radio from that's just a horn an Airborne that is oh no that's just a here so that's just a programmable radio what do you use that for fires fires do you have a scanner or anything no sir [Applause] uh I don't know a few weeks ago they didn't work earlier tonight not at all nope do you have any other gear in the car no sir no where's your bail badge thing is it home yep okay do you have your ID yes sir oh yeah [Applause] finally you start taking over because I've been taking over so much [Applause] when you put your app in with Avondale what was that would you put your app in with Avondale uh a few weeks ago I just took the the test how'd you do I passed fast how well did you pass because they rank everybody you know uh I like I don't know I think I barely made it yeah is that where you got at home this is this one's mine right here okay do you care if I nope look at that okay so the one on the left yep where do you carry that when it's mounted on your stuff just right here on my chest right on your chest left side yep playerly visible did you do your physical fitness with Avondale yet I have not that is scheduled when's that a week and a half from today yeah are you ready I hope so you ready to jump walls and all that kind of stuff I mean I go out and fight fires I hope I'm gonna oh you got your push-ups and sit-ups down and all that I don't even know what they do anymore so all right give me just a minute let me talk with Deputy McCammon here it doesn't so that's all [ __ ] too he has to have court paperwork for somebody to pick up right but shouldn't it all be through that building one company he works for that's my understanding but to run people for warrants and stuff he doesn't have any authority to do that I mean if you take somebody into custody based on his authorities a bail bondsman I'm sure he can run for warrants but he doesn't have any authority to just go run any Joe Blow for a warrant so his his authority doesn't extend to what he was doing right and that guy doesn't have any warrants yeah and he's saying he had a misdemeanor right so I mean even even if we get the initial hit we can detain and handcuff people right but in order to actually arrest them transport them book them you've got to confirm they got the warrant so we can't even do what he's doing just running up on people and detaining them playing security guard when he's he doesn't have a security guard license so just uh what are you thinking man all these I think it's strange I didn't even know that you could do but it seems like he's talking about an independent contractors what what would it sound like to me that he's saying it's like independent Contracting for everything I didn't even know that you could independent contract yourself as a firefighter age a lot yeah I think it's the same thing to him I'm like he's he's doing like these things that we don't even have authorities so what are you thinking about the impersonating experience I think it's possible he's doing some things out on Facebook or practice so how about we do this yeah it says I said certified peace officers personal vehicle with it exactly exactly but you can't do that if you had lights and stuff in your car you you are the cops and you could do it you're not going to last very long with your employer because you're gonna that's gonna be killing policy you can get them you can you could do it legally just stupid idea how about we do this uh mirandize them go over with him his introduction to that guy putting the guy in handcuffs all of that again and then I think you guys know what I'm thinking what are you guys thinking so I think he takes a ride for impersonating and follow some president just go ahead in with that asking those questions again and then we'll go from there I don't have a camera you don't have what I don't have a camera my camera only did your camera died [Applause] so I'm gonna try to keep my nose out of it and just let you handle things oh I appreciate it all right just to cover all our houses [Applause] [Applause] [Music] so first of all there was a skull vehicle right in the intersection I'd originally called you guys for that um that QT lady came by and we met we met the security they helped us push the car in um at which point we started talking with the security they recognized that I was fail and then uh joke around with them for a little bit then they got the thing too okay uh we're in the gut and we think you guys are out there introduce myself to be out to it and entertainment for a few minutes [Music] like completely I was not trying to impersonate nobody or anything like that my mind is moving really quickly do you remember saying that or is that just what I told you what I saw no I now remember saying that I didn't remember I just my alarm was set for 5 15 and live cars like packed up like straight to Yarnell so again I can't hate anybody so it was my understanding and I've spoken to one Dale Phoenix since I moved back down here to show them that fight like DeMent necessary to like detangibility and I can give you the sergeant stamp that I spoke to in Glendale I can give you the few places Phoenix as long as I call you guys if I make any sort of arrest or anything like that and I call DPS to verify like once that's all I've heard and that's encourage you to verify if an individual s the once division yep and I tell them who I am and they and they've all right what's your information all right give me a second okay warrants or yes Edwards and then if they have warrants if you guys aren't any out there I'll call you guys out call Phoenix out about lend out or whoever out just so that they can verify that hey you guys would end up taking taking over at the end of the day so you have a badge number yes 24701 yes sir [Applause] yes sir [Applause] I mean I've called you guys out plenty of times I'm sure you can get through the recordings and hear exactly what I say when I call you guys like I had I just I had you guys just booked somebody ITR last week so and how does the whole warrant with the bonds company because I'm not familiar with that either can you just look for any more because I don't choose I don't choose my one so how do you get your warrant they choose my ones they send me the information either from the courts or from the state so so if they don't give you any information on uh who has a warrant you just take it upon yourself to go Patrol and and look for people drive around I don't really stop anybody like it's [Applause] entity why can we run them it's like in my purview I can verify people at once or not what review you just said that they only they assign you your warrants so you know what you're looking for so I can also still verify if people set warrants like say I was just talking with somebody and they gave me their name I can always be like hey dude and I could just be walking down the street and get something I mean I can always verify like if somebody's got a warrant that is like strictly my all anything to do with warrants is like and like I mean I contact the Warrants Division for you guys Phoenix like I make it very known like what I'm doing just so it's like not this whole confusion thing so that guy that just rode by on his bicycle if you wanted to you could stop and detain him and run him for warrants I'm not gonna stop cause I can't and he can't do that so why can you do this so well I'm just asking you the way that I have to hold on to explain this what was the what was the crime that was committed that night that gave you Reasonable Suspicion or probable cause to detain that person and run him for warrants just making definitely a threats to the security guard did you hear this what did you hear them where's your probable cause that would be my problem because the security guard was saying that he what was he doing when you got there arguing with the security guard did you hear any death threats no I'm just sure is it a crime to get into an argument no he wasn't even on the on qt's property people it was in the alley when you detect him he was in the outlet right he wasn't on QT property and then uh another thing that I heard you say is that you have the right to detain somebody as long as you call law enforcement first so after you put the handcuffs on that on that guy and you told him he was detained did you call us you call DPS to run him yeah did you call them to tell them that you had him to change I told him that I was out with somebody did you tell them that he was detained and that you needed a an officer to come out here and help me with a 10 I didn't say I needed an option do you see the issues yes you were acting as a police officer am I right no I was acting as a surveillance you introduce yourself as an officer you detained somebody without specifying that you were not a police officer so do you think it's reasonable that this person believed that you were a police officer at that time do you think that he felt like he was free to leave from your custody at that time and that was definitely like I was not trying to and what what did they tell you that uh at your agency or or municipality or whatever did they tell you that this person had a warrant so why would you take it upon yourself to detain this person who hasn't committed a crime that you've witnessed instead of calling law enforcement to come out and handle an unruly subject or somebody who's trespassing something like that why what we're trying to understand is what made it okay in your mind to detain that person and and act the way you acted my understanding like I said was talking with Glendale and talking with Phoenix and all that like when I first moved down here I sat down with them okay so you just spoke verbally did you ever receive any training yeah I went through a class what kind of class was in an academy it was offered through my the bond company what kind of training did you get taser like all like how did these play situations how long was that training class uh five days five days okay did they teach you how to apply handcuffs yes okay did they did they teach you so they they taught you that you were allowed to trespass people from properties yes they told you that you're safe I wouldn't say that you've been trespassed oh literally just like that like that's always it's literally it's all I can say you've been trespassing well you can say that but totally that's all I can say so anybody can say that but you understand that by you saying that there's no there's no grounds right there's if now I'm starting to understand so basically what I was told isn't always true in every County or in every jurisdiction because when I spoke to Glendale in Phoenix they they sort of laid down a different set of rules okay like I can stop I could be non-stop I can detain individuals if I need to run them I can just I can detain them to run them okay aside from the fact that they said that if I told you right now if I wanted to I could go stop anybody and detain them and run them for warrants would you look me in the eye and tell me that that's a reasonable statement yes and no no that's not reasonable you cannot just stop anybody on the street and run them because you're a Bail Enforcement agent or whatever your title was at that day that's that's illegal that's unlawful detainment you understand that right that's what I want to make sure that you understand because I'm starting to understand yeah because you told us that your what is it you're is it an agency okay they assign you warrants so you're like a bounty hunter you go you look for a certain person so instead of looking for that person you went and patrolled with your vehicle that's equipped with red blue lights you hung out with the security guards all night and then you acted as a law enforcement officer by detaining searching and running for wants and warrants with no probable cause are we on the same page here yeah [Applause] very good curious if you're looking for a particular guy in the account why are you shadowing the security guys because those guys know those backgrounds they know where everything's hot I mean my guy's young for drug use [Applause] what specific area were you given to look for him well young Town's a large city or it's not a large city but it's a city what is it is that grand razor Grand from from Grand to Thunderbird from 113th to 93rd let's see General scope area that this guy has been known to hang out is there a did they give you a photograph of them uh yeah I don't need to see it I'm just asking yeah did he did he look anything like this this guy that you detained so there's other than the fact that you were just that's there you had no reason to be there really or or to detain them you know what I mean I wasn't trying to overstep stuff on anybody's toes or anything like that like I'm not trying to impersonate anything like that well aside aside from uh how did you search them because we didn't really talk about that too much how did you search them just held demonstration did you say anything to him I made it very clear can I search you yeah okay I'm gonna set this right here centered on my third right in front of him where's your ID okay thank you and you don't have to do any paperwork when you search somebody where is it if they have it yeah do you have any with you I don't have any with me like I said I'm just getting ready to go find fire so but you got your pest with you I'm just in there like I some of the stuff I didn't take out so what if you were gonna go detain somebody again tonight and search them you wouldn't have done that for him then I have to do that for him anytime I thought okay but I understand that but you just said you don't have them but you were out last night because I'm not going to stop somebody going or detain somebody I'm going to fight a fire I mean all my fire here sitting in my back seat like I'm I get it but you were out last night and you still got your vest in your car so why wouldn't you have those search forms see what I'm saying I took my case out of my front seat and I got home okay I'm just trying to understand because you got some stuff but you don't get others you got your red and blue lights but it always stays in my car so I mean I don't normally take that out okay because you might need it if you detain somebody on the street I just carry that I'm just of course I haven't I just don't take certain things out of my car and when was the last time you read in blues work it wasn't last night when you were showing opinion security because we got that on camera too is there anything else that you need to tell us [Applause] this is the Bail Enforcement no guard card no no certification and all it is is a five-day course so is there any way that I can get going I have just like an hour and a half Drive I'd have to be there at 7 30. I think this is over my baby head here what was that yeah I kind of understand that he's [ __ ] a lot of things up too late well it sounds to me like 15 minutes I mean that's what I'm leaning but I would definitely verify this is there that's Sergeant's idea too oh that's what he thinks I'm on I'm on board and he's if he agrees then I mean he dug his own gravy he told us everything all right you don't have your weapon with you right it's not in the car your firearm you have any other weapons in the car anything on you at all all right go ahead and turn around put your hands back unlawful detainment and important impersonating [Applause] way to just get a ticket no not right now you're under arrest you guys go over there all right do me a favor spank your feet he's gonna pat you down okay you got any property on you not that I know of okay [Applause] you got somebody who can come pick up your car uh possibly all right well it's on private property so we can leave it here it's not going to get towed or anything right now so almost Walgreens yeah up in your pocket's gonna poke me stick me stab me nope shouldn't open your boots no sir [Applause] [Applause] can you slide these boots off pretty easy yeah all right I'm gonna step on the hill and then just lift up and then same with the right one and then as soon as he searches them we'll have you step back in them I can't like like grab this side just pull it up for them have you ever been arrested before yep what was it for trespassing trespassing from a business or uh a church oh okay that was it and speeding tickets but I've never been arrested for this okay slide on in is there any way to like put these in the front possibly here when we get back to the district foreign [Applause]
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