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good afternoon this is Daniel with cops
and cons TV I just want to welcome
everyone into our live stream so thank
you again for being a part of this I'm
going to go through and break down some
of the most interesting and important
cases in policing that happened this
week so just a little bit of a road map
of where we're going we have there were
so many cases this week but we're going
to hit about five today so we're going
to talk about a case uh that everyone's
been talking about out of Laverne
Tennessee so this case has brought
people in the law enforcement Community
together more than essentially any other
case in in years uh we also have a case
that involves police officers finding a
tiger while they're on a shots fired
call for service we have some EMS
Personnel who were charged after someone
died in their custody so a lot of
different interesting police type
related cases from this week so we're
going to get into that and just like we
do every week while I'm going through
some of these cases if you think that
I'm saying something that is correct or
isn't correct or you have something
interesting to add to the conversation
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channels um let's see where everybody's
from today uh we have someone in from
California it looks like uh hello from
Pirates of the Caribbean hey Zach uh all
right so looks like we have someone uh
Bruce is from Romania and Bruce has been
in the show multiple times before so
welcome Bruce and everyone else all
right so the first case that we're going
to talk about so this happened in
Houston Texas and I've been calling this
guy we don't know his name we just know
that he's a 46 year old guy but I've
been calling him the Robin Hood of
Houston so here's what happened so this
occurred earlier this week in Houston
Texas at a Taqueria I'm probably not
saying that right but essentially it's a
Mexican restaurant somewhere in the
Houston area and this was about 11 30 at
night individuals are just regular
restaurant patrons are are in the
restaurant and they're eating Mexican
food at 11 30 at night for some reason
he must have seen too many episodes
about they must have watched Pulp
Fiction too many times because a 46 year
old man named Mr Washington he comes
into the store armed with a gun he's
dressed all in black he has a face mask
on and he has gloves on and he has a
firearm and he's pointing it at people
inside the restaurant and he's demanding
not only money from the cash register
but he's robbing the restaurant patrons
as well so a whole bunch of people are
just handing them over over wallets over
money people are hitting the ground
they're they're hiding underneath tables
and it's a pretty serious scene scene
because he has a handgun that he's
pointing at people well what he didn't
realize is that he's in Texas and that
you know and A good rule of A good rule
when you're in Texas or in some of these
in some of these states that aren't you
know Illinois or California or anything
like that is if you walk into a
restaurant and there's 20 other people
you're probably not the only one that
has a firearm so that happened to be the
case so while Mr Washington is going
around pointing the gun in everybody's
face demanding money he goes to up to a
table and he points a gun at the table
and you can see the end of individual
call him the the the Robin Hood here he
is he you can see that right before the
man walks up to him he kind of makes a
motion towards his waistband so this is
an individual who is can see uh has a
concealed carry and he actually has a
firearm and it looks like he's gonna
make a move but then the guy bad guy Mr
Washington he kind of goes back towards
it and you see the guy kind of he kind
of stiffens up and he gets he gets back
in his seat then without missing a beat
as soon as Mr Washington turns his back
this guy unloads on him he pulls out his
firearm and he shoots him he shoots him
a lot of times he shoots him nine times
and he kills this individual now on
under and then what happened after he
shot and killed the individual he went
up to where the Mr Washington had all
the he went up to the body and he found
all the wallets and the money he kind of
took it and he put it on a table and he
was encouraging the other patrons hey
come come and get your stuff take your
Wallace take your cash and then him and
the guy that he was with they walk out
the door they get into their red pickup
truck and they are gone like a ghost
it's like it never happened so let's
break this down a little bit so yes this
is Texas but you know every state has
self-defense laws so Texas basically the
self the basic self-defense law and
principle that you have to think about
is a couple things so it basically says
that if you or someone else are in
immediate fear of serious danger you can
go ahead and utilize deadly force in in
order to make sure that you or someone
else doesn't die or or submit to Serious
bodily injury so but it also says that
you are able to use that Force so long
as there is an active threat so um I
mean if you look at this situation yes
even though the individual head is back
turned when the shots were fired there
were still other people inside the store
so this is a case where in the exact
moment maybe the individual who who
fired the shots he wasn't in danger at
that exact moment but other people were
and just like I I've said multiple times
just because someone has a gun pointed
away from you pointing a gun away from
you to pointing a gun back at you
someone can do that and fire a shot in
less than a second so this man
absolutely was in danger and so was
everybody else inside of the restaurant
so even though this man was shot in the
back it it seems to be a very reasonable
shooting now here's where there could be
a problem not morally I don't think
anybody has a moral problem with this
but there could be a legal issue and I'm
going to get into that here so after the
shots were fired and said there were
nine of them after the first several
shots were fired Mr Washington ended up
on the ground he's laying on the ground
at that point the man walks over to him
and he sees that the gun is no longer in
the position uh in the possession of Mr
Washington Mr Washington I mean he's
bleeding out he's probably gonna die
right then anyways so there is no more
threats
um the the individual he shoots him a
couple more times while he's on the
ground no longer a threat so uh the
first you know five six shots absolutely
100 reasonable but those last three
shots again morally I don't think
anybody has a problem with it but
legally he's firing shots at someone
when there legitimately is no more
threat so um he did end up contacting an
attorney this man's attorney contacted
the district attorney and the police so
they did an interview with him this case
is going to go to a grand jury now this
doesn't mean that he can do anything
wrong so when you go to a grand jury the
prosecutor can recommend charges and
what charges those might be and then a
grand jury definitely doesn't have to
indict or anything like that so my
prediction is that this is not going to
be he's not going to be indicted by a by
a grand jury and the reason for that the
reason I'm going to say that is is
that's my prediction is because the
initial use of force um is 100 lawful
and reasonable so I mean if the if the
individual wanted to he could have shot
him in the back of the head and
literally killed him with the first shot
so deadly force was 100 reasonable and
authorized so because of the dynamic
situation the situation education that
was caused by Mr Washington so you know
one of the things when it comes to
self-defense laws usually there's a
caveat in State Statute that said that
you can't be the one to create a
situation if you create a situation and
then you go oh I'm in danger and then
you fire a gun yeah there's going to be
problems with that so obviously this
wasn't a case where the patron the hero
the the Robin Hood of Houston he didn't
create this situation he reacted to it
so you know because he reacted to a
situation he very well may have saved
the lives of multiple people in that
restaurant uh and the initial use of the
deadly force of the shooting was 100
lawful and reasonable the vast majority
of the shots were lawful and reasonable
is the grand jury going to try to indict
him because of the last shot or two uh
it's possible but my guess is not this
is going to be a Texas jury and Mr
Washington he just isn't a sympathetic
figure you walk into a restaurant you
point a gun at people and you rob them
at gunpoint essentially putting everyone
in fear for their lives because your
selfish and because you want quick money
that isn't a real sympathetic character
that's probably going to go a long way
my guess is this individual will not be
indicted now come to find out later on
that it was not a real gun it was a BB
gun or or a pellet gun of some sort but
it
100 looked like a real gun so the fact
that later on you find out that it
wasn't a real gun I mean there's no way
that the individual who fired the shots
would have been Hey listen before I blow
your head off can I look at that gun
real quick just to make sure it's
reasonable or just to make sure it's
real so that isn't a reasonable thing so
this was a lawful shooting at least the
first several shots in in my guess is
that a Texas grand jury is not going to
indict because of those last couple
shots now let's see what everyone else
thinks about this so we do have some we
do have some comments on this uh uh uh
could you close that on the screen uh
thank you so it looks like uh okay so
Sunny has a question any way of making
BB guns in a way that they don't
resemble a real gun oh that's an
excellent question so a lot of times
um the way that a fake gun or a BB gun
or a pellet gun A lot of times those
guns have an orange tip so there is some
type of of indicator on the gun where
there's an orange tip on the gun and
that would indicate to everyone that you
know this wasn't a real gun you know
that but the problem with that is if
you're going into a store and you're
using a gun to rob a store you want
people to think that it's real so you're
just going to go ahead and take that
piece off so
um yes that is something that is on a
lot of pellet guns a lot of BB guns
um however
um if the intent is to you like I said
if you walk into a store with a pellet
gun you're trying to rob people that you
know you're really not um you're not
going to instill the fear as if it were
a real gun so this individual Mr
Washington he had the intent to rob
people at gunpoint so even if this even
if the pellet gun did have something
indicating it was not a real gun on it
he would have taken it off because his
intent was to try to scare people
um basically to scare the life out of
people in order so he could get some
easy money uh let's see Bruce says that
sounds like the situation where the one
guy took out an active shooter in a mall
not that long ago yeah absolutely 100 it
does sound like that at all uh let's see
um uh Bruce says if a cop said that he
would be in deep [ __ ] so if this does
happen for police officers sometimes
they get into an officer involved
shooting and you find out later that it
was a pellet gun um however I haven't
seen a case
um where an officer was charged later on
when when uh to find out that it wasn't
a real gun or that it was a BB gun or a
pellet gun yes people criticize and
people complain um but in a situation
like that where an individual is
actively pointing the gun and
threatening someone I haven't seen a
police officer be charged which is a
good thing though black lives matter and
other anti-police activist groups they
absolutely do complain about it and
they're really loud in the media I
haven't seen a police officer get
charged over a situation like that and
they really shouldn't get charged over a
situation like that if you have a
reasonable objective belief that someone
is holding a deadly weapon and
threatening other people uh let's see
Reds General says got to put the gun
back in the dude's hands before the
before the coup de gras yeah that's uh
that's that's uh that that could be Reds
um there was a surveillance camera of
this so that's one of those things uh
let's see any other questions about this
let's see uh Bruce uh so what if I make
a real gun with an orange tip um well
then uh people might think that it's a
it's a fake gun so yeah that absolutely
could be I don't know why you would want
to do that but yes uh let's see uh he
took Archie says he took a pellet gun to
a gunfight yeah that's absolutely
correct uh Hoosier says if someone pulls
a weapon on me if it's fake or real I'm
sorry but I'm unloading on that person
yeah because again you have no if
someone is pointing a gun and if it
looks real to you in the moment you have
no moral or legal obligation to do any
kind of further investigation to see if
it's real or not because while you're
trying to do the math on that and figure
it out you or someone else might die so
no it's all looked at what's reasonable
in the moment and in a situation like
this is absolutely 100 percent
reasonable uh Bruce says no the last two
shots after he was down is what I was
referring to yeah so like like I said
Bruce it's um the last two shot thoughts
could be problematic um legally like I
said legally they absolutely 100 percent
are problematic
um but like I said will a Texas grand
jury actually indict it's definitely
possible if we're just looking at the
law and taking nothing else um taking
nothing else from it we're not putting
any other mitigating factors into this
we're just looking at those last two
shots and we're looking at the law then
yeah the the individual should be
indicted um however there are so many
mitigating factors in this that my guess
is he won't be but everything's possible
and we will 100 percent uh keep
everybody updated on that that Tar Heel
Aerials hello how's it going all right
so the next case that I want to talk
about um so this happened in LA and and
this happened with uh the black lives
matter uh uh uh one of the original
founders of black lives matter Los
Angeles
um has a cousin that cousin's name was
Keenan Anderson Mr Anderson is a high
school teacher and he was recently he
recently died this week in police
custody let me tell you the story of
what happened so Mr Mr Anderson he was a
high school teacher something happened
um it's unknown it's known that he
ingested drugs because later on it was
found out that he had marijuana and
cocaine in his system but it's unknown
if there was anything else that was
going on when it comes to mental health
or mental illness because again this guy
was a high school teacher so it appears
that he doesn't have any kind of a
criminal history or anything like that
well what happened was is earlier this
week in in in Los Angeles it was alleged
that he tried to steal a car well he
tried to steal a car and what happened
there as you can as you can predict
police were called so police got unseen
and they ended up getting into a foot
chase with Mr Anderson Mr Anderson ran
from police once police caught him he
wasn't Cooperative at that point either
multiple police officers were there they
tried to wrestle him to the ground he
was fighting them he was actively
resisting arrest so while he was
actively resisting arrest after you know
being alleged to have committed a felony
police officers used their taser which
is a reasonable thing to do so every
time you pull the trigger on a taser it
goes through a five second cycle so I
believe that the trigger of the taser
was pulled for you know four or five
times so you know there was a 20 to 30
second cycle you know periodically that
was that was pressed now police officers
when it comes to the use of a taser or
the use of of deadly force they have to
justify every use of the taser so if you
tase someone and you know and then
they're still fighting they're still
actively resisting well then a police
officer can go ahead and tase someone
again so um you know the fact that a
taser was used five different times that
doesn't mean that the police officers
necessarily were excessive or did
anything wrong as long as the behavior
from Mr Anderson showed that he was
still actively resisting my example is
if someone is actively resisting police
a police officer use the taser a taser
works and then the individual puts his
hands behind his back and cooperates 100
the police officers should definitely
not use the taser anymore because once
the individual gives up once the
individual once the handcuffs go on the
fights silver that that's it 100
um if someone is being cooperative so um
this individual was not being
cooperative um from what I can tell by
the body cam video every time the taser
was pulled it seemed like it was
reasonable um he was eventually put in
handcuffs however once he was in police
custody he had a medical episode
um Medics were called out and he ended
up dying of of cardiac arrest now I
believe he's a young guy I think he was
31 years old um so he died of cardiac
arrest so this is what's called an in
custody death so when there's an
encusted death from a police department
that launches as it should a massive
investigation typically that admit that
investigation is not only administrative
meaning um in in Internal Affairs comes
in and does an administrative review but
also what happens is there's a criminal
investigation of the police officers to
not to see if they broke any laws while
someone died in their custody and
typically the criminal side of it this
is not completed by the same Police
Department so typically it's an outside
agency if it's a high profile case a lot
of times it's the state police or the
Attorney General's office so there's so
when there isn't in custody death as it
should again it triggers just a massive
investigation both administratively when
it comes to police department policy so
did the police follow policy in this
case and then it goes to uh also there's
a criminal investigation as well this is
what we want anytime someone dies in
police custody so
um this case is titled an in-custody
death because that's what it was well
one of the other founders of black lives
matter to Los Angeles her name is Dr
Molina Abdullah immediately she gets on
after she sees the body camera footage
she immediately sees uh uh um she she
says that the that the uh that Mr
Anderson was brutalized by the police uh
by the police officers and the police
officers killed him she wanted the
official title of the report to not be
called in custody death she wanted the
title of the report to be uh titled
killing which again doesn't make any
sense because an in-custody death is an
unbelievably extremely serious thing for
a police department they should take it
seriously and there is going to be a
massive investigation on this so they
did do an autopsy they found that Mr
Anderson did have marijuana and cocaine
into his system in his system at the
time he died so it's unknown if his
behavior which seemed to be out of
character again this guy's a high school
teacher his behavior seemed to be out of
character so it definitely had some
drugs in his system unknown if they were
laced with anything else and again
unknown if there was any other
psychological thing going on because
again typically when someone has a is a
reasonable person has a normal job
doesn't commit crimes and one day they
decide I'm gonna try to steal a car run
from and fight with police and then
later on they die of a young person dies
of a cardiac a cardiac arrest typically
there's something else going on usually
there's something else inside them that
that happened of why that occurred again
tasers are not deadly weapons just from
the use of them themselves police
officers most police officers are tased
in the police academy while they get
while they are certified to use the
device so if it was something that was
going to kill a high percentage of
people they absolutely would not do it
to police officers in the academy
there's a reason why police officers are
tased in the police academy mace or or
OC spray there's a reason why that's
used on police officers in the police
academy but they're not shot with actual
guns they're not shot with bean bag
shotguns they're not hitting their head
with a a a baton or anything else like
that it's because the taser and the OC
the mace they're not deadly then should
not be deadly weapons on an individual
so this is something that should not
have killed Mr Anderson but Mr Anderson
did die in police custody so my guess is
this is going to be a big case um one of
the other things that Mr Anderson did
while he was fighting with police he
said something the effect of don't
George Floyd me or they're trying to
George Floyd me so he invoked the name
of George Floyd but the thing is it had
he just won had he not tried to steal a
car had he just cooperated with police
not ran not fought there would have been
zero Force used against him so um you
know it seems like he was not in his
right State of Mind uh Witnesses also
said that Mr Anderson was in a strange
mental state before this happened so um
he might have not been in his right mind
when this occurred so
um uh you know I I don't want to
criticize him too much because if you
took something that maybe you didn't
realize something was in there and you
behave in a way that you typically
wouldn't that that's not necessarily
your fault if there's some chemical
inside you um but again all he had to do
was to not uh fight with police officers
there wouldn't have been any force that
was used and you know hopefully he would
uh still be alive so let's see what
other people have to say about this case
uh let's see uh Hoosier says they made
it as a July 1st 2022 uh okay talking
about uh handguns permitless okay we
also have a link that we put in the chat
to the uh body cam video of this
incident so definitely make sure you go
back and watch it later and you know
definitely putting the chat later on let
me know what you think because I think
this is a case we're going to talk about
um because um he was he did die in
police custody and because he Israel
related to someone who started black
lives matter red says uh let's see
um Reds General says with the table
method the taser is secondary to other
tools uh as the full name implies taser
assisted baton LED enforcement yes
absolutely uh let's see Anita says I've
just tuned in what do you think about
the recent Idaho murder don't you think
it's uh skeptical we can get into that
in a little while thank you so much for
the question uh Cajun Randy says well he
didn't kill himself uh well okay Cajun
Randy well he died of cardiac arrest so
he didn't die of use of force from
police it doesn't seem what it seems
like is he took he took maybe he had
underlying heart condition but it seems
like whatever drugs he took in his
system uh mixed with the adrenaline of
running and fighting with police and
what we have to know about this oh so so
Cajun Randy um what I what I like to ask
is about KJ Randy what I'd like to ask
about is at what point did the police
officers do something under reasonable
it's very easy very lazy very dishonest
to say while he died in police custody
police are the problem no I want you to
point to the specific point here this
fourth time the police used the taser he
actually wasn't fighting with them
anymore or something like that so if you
have a specific and then you can cite to
policy or law and say okay right here
this is what the police officer did it
was not reasonable because of X because
of something so um again General
criticisms to make when you don't really
know a whole lot it's lazy um it just
isn't very helpful um but if you can say
hey at this exact point this is where
the officer should have done something
different here's the training they had
that says that here's the law here's the
policy well that's reasonable we can
absolutely have that discussion I
watched the body cam footage I can't see
of any place that the police officers
were using Force where Mr Anderson
wasn't actively resisting no I don't
want anyone to die in police custody but
we have to look about not just what the
end results are but as they're going
through did police do something
unreasonable or unlawful because the
thing is if the police officers did do
something that was unreasonable or
unlawful I want to call it out and I
want to show other police officers hey
this is what happened this officer was
fired he was terminated he was suspended
he was charged don't do this so this is
what you do in the situation instead
here's the new law here's the new policy
and here's the new training to make sure
it doesn't happen again because the end
goal of all of this is how can police
officers affect their job of keeping the
public safe while not injuring or
killing people or making it so
officer-involved shootings are the
lowest level as humanly possible that's
the goal so how we come about doing a
holistic approach to get there we have
to do
um I think that's it let's see uh let's
see uh Deanna Fisher cops and cons 100
new sub here awesome thank you so much
uh JB uh let's see uh JB makes excuses
for police brutality JB again I'm gonna
throw I'm gonna throw it back to you
if there isn't if there is something of
police brutality go ahead and say
exactly what was brutal about it and I'm
probably going to agree with you as if
you ever watch this channel before any
time that there was an unlawful police
shooting I go ahead and I say this is an
unlawful police shooting this shooting
is against police department policy
here's why so again I I watched the
video of the body cam video I didn't see
anything that looked unreasonable from
the police department if you do put it
in there again General criticisms are
pretty lazy and dishonest uh let's see
uh Rod Bender says uh sounds like a case
of excited delirium Rod Bender 100
that's exactly seems what this is like
that's that's what I think uh let's see
um do you think Brighton is a serial
killer all right uh let's see uh thanks
for the follow all right okay so um that
was that case like I said because of who
Mr Anderson was I 100 expect this uh to
be a case that we talk about going
forward and we'll definitely see what
happens again if something comes out
police officers did something
inappropriate put in a chat let me know
if there's something I missed let me
know but definitely watch the body cam
footage because we're not trying to hide
anything here we put a link to the body
cam footage so you're not just taking my
word for it but you can actually watch
for yourself because it's important for
everyone to be informed uh maybe don't
execute people yeah uh police shouldn't
execute people and they typically don't
and if they do their their charged with
crimes which is appropriate all right so
the next case that I want to get to and
you know what I have to say about this
is they're just there aren't that many
cases that bring the entire law
enforcement police Community together uh
sometimes it does there's an officer
involved shooting sometimes there's a
tragic a death of a police officer
sometimes there's a real heroic event
where just police officers just from all
over the country it's kind of band
together well this story did that like
no other has in a recent memory and it
has it happened in La Verne Tennessee
um and what I want to say about this is
this story seems absolutely unbelievable
to everyone who isn't a police officer
because every police officer whether
they want to admit it or not knows that
this case what happened here literally
happens in every single police
department and anyone who has any law
enforcement time I'm guessing
firefighters too maybe even the military
you can picture in your head a group of
people who did this exact same thing it
just happened before social media so
this is a small Police Department in
Laverne Tennessee has about 55 officers
now they're actually hiring for uh all
all positions available but they have
about 55 police officers and uh there
was a sex scandal so essentially there
was one female police officer she's a
married young police officer and
apparently she had sexual relations with
multiple different people in the police
department and no one was quiet about it
now what people do when they're I think
it's a good rule that what people do in
their personal lives whether you're a
police officer whether you are a uh
whether you are a a welder you work in
the private sector whatever you do in
your personal life personal life we
really shouldn't care about like that
just really isn't anybody's business but
the problem was is that the allegations
are is that some of the sexual activity
with multiple people happened on duty
and in a city-owned uh areas or
city-owned building so that's where the
problem is um so uh five police officers
were fired we're gonna put some pictures
on the screen five police officers in
reference to this case were fired and in
reference to this case now the reason
why I said that this brought the law
enforcement Community together is
because cops have a dark sense of humor
really dark sense of humor and cops love
to make memes so the memes on this case
on police police officers uh social
media pages and other groups run by
police officers the memes have been
absolutely unbelievable I don't know if
we're going to be able to throw any up
but um they are absolutely unbelievable
how silly people are being about this
and and again it's just one of those
things where things are funny in life
um we make jokes about things that hit
home things that are close to home
things that we can relate
police officer
um knows of a group of people who
engaged in some type of activity like
this this nature at play believe me it
didn't only just happen in Laverne
Tennessee all right uh Bruce Blankenship
says uh all positions available yeah um
that's been that's been um that's been
um uh uh uh on a lot of memes uh it's
absolutely absolutely funny let's see uh
let's see uh any other questions or
comments about this case but yeah look
up some of the memes that people have
made on this case if it's a funny meme
it was probably made by a cop and is
absolutely a ridiculous thing and and
again though one last thing I want to
say about this case is not only um can
everyone kind of relate in the fact that
they know a group of people who've
engaged in this exact same thing but I
guarantee you that there are literally
dozens of groups of police officers
around the country who are watching this
case who are saying to themselves holy
[ __ ] I hope what we're doing doesn't get
out so you know that thought is running
around there that's why everybody's
talking about it and that's why it is
such a
um absolutely ridiculous story all right
so that was kind of a silly story
um uh the the next case that I want to
talk about so this happened in this it's
a serious case and it's absolutely a
tragedy of what happens this happened in
Springfield Illinois so uh maybe I'm
originally from Illinois so I know this
that Springfield is the capital of
Illinois it's one one of the top five
big cities in Illinois it's you know a
couple two and a half hours or so from
Chicago but this happened in Springfield
Illinois so police officers were
dispatched this happened on December
18th police officers were dispatched to
a call for service when they got to
their uh the call for service was in
reference to a 35 year old man whose
name is Earl Moore now Mr Moore the
reason for the police call for services
because his family said that he was
having hallucinations and that he wasn't
acting himself and that he was acting
crazy he's a guy with hallucinations so
they called police officers now once
police officers got there they did the
absolute right thing what they did is
they realized that this wasn't a crime
this wasn't a criminal call and that Mr
Moore was a person who needed help so
they did what any reasonable police
officer is supposed to do not just
through common sense but through Police
Department policy that they followed
they called EMS so they got Emergency
Medical Services on scene and basically
the custody of someone like this who's
having a medical issue who isn't in
police custody they haven't committed a
crime once the EMS gets on scene police
officers essentially really really just
serve as security as seen security to
make sure that everyone's safe 100 what
happened to the patient when it comes to
anything medical that is 100 to EMS on
scene and that's a good thing because
you have to think about it this way can
you imagine police officers have very
little medical training now of course
there are some who go through EMT
classes there are some who have yearly
training where they do all kinds of
extra medical training but I'm telling
you that isn't the norm for police
departments most police officers know
how to do CPR but and they know how to
put on chest seals but they have a very
basic
um understanding and training when it
comes to medical issues and uh and how
to be a medical first responder so I
mean police officers just don't know a
whole lot
um so it's reasonable that when Medics
paramedics EMS arrive on scene that
they're in control this is their scene
this is their patient so it's one of
those things where if EMS is doing
something the EMS has has far more
training than police officers it would
be strange it would be weird if a police
officer told EMS hey I don't think you
guys should be doing this it seems like
you're doing it wrong so think about
there's such a think about that for a
second imagine a situation where police
officers call medical professionals to
deal with someone who isn't under arrest
someone who is literally just a medical
patient and EMS is working on the person
or they're helping the person an
untrained police officer steps over and
says hey you're doing something wrong
tries to take over later on that person
dies or something bad happened to the
person we would be talking about that
case saying the police officers were
negligent they were Reckless they should
be charged and I think we all know that
so when it comes to criticism of police
officers we have to be honest about it
and how do we want police officers to
act so I hope everybody's on the same
page that when medical personnel EMS
gets on scene it's their scene police
are there for security and EMS should be
the one dealing with the patient well
that's what happens EMS got on scene and
Mr Moore he's kind of a big bigger guy
and he wasn't being cooperative not like
fighting with anyone but I mean he was
he was in medical need he was in medical
distress he was having hallucinations
again obviously he wasn't in his right
mind so the paramedics were having it
having difficulty getting him onto the
gurney well for whatever reason they
decided to put him on the gurney face
down they put him on the gurney face
down so on his belly he's laying on his
belly then the straps that normally when
you're on a gurney and you're sitting
face up usually the straps go across
your chest well those chest straps what
they did is they put those and cinched
those down on his back so now you have
an individual who's laying on their
stomach and they have straps of pressure
on their back in order to hold them in
and that's how they transport him to the
hospital well I I think everyone knows
where this is going Mr Moore ends up
dying from uh positional as as fixia
um I mean it's it seems like a thing
that everybody should know how medical
and this is something that typically all
police officers know but how a medical
Personnel doesn't know is absolutely
crazy so Mr Moore 35 year old he
tragically died during this episode the
two paramedics um the two Medics who are
on scene were both just charged with
first degree murder my opinion is that
those charges are absolutely 100
reasonable I think that they should be
charged um I have a couple friends who
live in the Chicagoland area who are
paramedics with Chicago Fire Department
and and a couple other other cities
around there and they've expressed the
same thing you know I reached out to
them and I had a conversation about hey
you like like how out of the norm is
this because looking at this from the
side of a of a police officer like I
would know not to do that most police
officers would so you know what's going
on in Illinois is there something that
I'm not seeing and no the individuals
the paramedic that I reached out to all
said no this is absolutely insane no
paramedic does this and just like just
like me when I look at officer-involved
shootings that are illegal I said yeah
the officer should be charged my friends
who are paramedics said that no these
paramedics um were absolutely negligent
Reckless they 100 percent should B chart
so now the question comes in because a
lot of these cases have underlying
questions that I like to ask so the
underlying question is what Duty do
police officers have to intervene so
just to be fully transparent and we're
going to post the body cam footage in a
link because I'm not trying to hide
anything so definitely go ahead and
watch it later we're going to post the
body cam footage from police officers on
this case but if you look at it it's
like the police officer saw that this
was happening what Duty do the police
officers have to intervene and again I'm
going to say not a whole lot and the
reason I'm saying that is is because if
you want police officers to criticize
Medics and you know people with Badges
and guns and legal Authority if you want
them interfering with what paramedics do
okay fine but I want you to be
consistent on that and what you know
that you want but you're saying that as
a policy you want police officers to
really be in control of what Medics do I
don't think anyone would agree with that
so if that's if that's where your head
space is if that's what you're thinking
which I think is the appropriate thing
to do that you don't want police
officers to tell paramedics how to be
paramedics then we have to be consistent
so um the fact that police officers
didn't do anything in the moment
um you know I don't think that is that
unreasonable because again police
officers yeah they should know not to
put someone face down but they're not
the ones transporting him to the
ambulance I mean who knows yes that's
how this individual was put on the
gurney but maybe once they got into the
ambulance they were going to roll him uh
they were going to roll him into a
better position
um again it's not the responsibility of
the police officers once EMS is on scene
so I'm curious what other people's
thoughts are about this particular issue
because I did post this video and a
couple comments on my on my uh Tick Tock
Channel and people were saying that a
police officer should have intervened I
mean these are people who criticize
police no matter what they're doing of
course so you know I take it with a
grain of salt but people were saying
why'd they even call Medics they should
have thrown this guy one individual says
that they shouldn't have even have
called Medics for this that they should
have put the guy in the police car and
driven them driven him them to the
hospital uh driven him to the hospital
themselves and again in 2020 hindsight
fine absolutely you should have had
these paramedics anywhere near this guy
but how would police officers know that
and again just to play Devil's Advocate
what if their Department policy and this
is what it says that when someone's
having a medical emergency you call EMS
so what if police officer said hey this
guy who's having hallucinations his
family is concerned about him instead of
following the policy and calling Medics
we're just going to put him in the back
seat of our police car and we're going
to drive him to the hospital ourselves
that that's against policy if something
would have happened to Miss Moore Mr
Moore under those circumstances again
guarantee everyone would be piling on
the police officers they would be saying
here's the policy you didn't follow it
it's because you didn't care about Mr
Moore so again you can't have it both
ways so when it comes to policies for
police officers you kind of have to make
them broad so police officers can yes
use common sense but follow those
policies under multiple under almost any
situation that could arise and when
someone's having a medical emergency
calling EMS and then allowing EMS to do
what they do because they are the
professionals that seems reasonable let
me know in the chat if you you think
that I'm wrong let's see
any questions about this
uh let's see uh
okay no uh Hawk says have you seen the
video posted in Chandler Arizona
attempted home invasion officer number
two unjusted
um officer involved shooting no I
haven't seen that one yet
um but I will check that out I think
you're the second or third person to I
think you're the second or third person
to uh put that in there about the
Chandler Arizona case I'm not familiar
with it seems like maybe it just
happened I will absolutely watch it
Cajun Randy says policy is not law
you're right you're 100 it's not law but
police have to follow policy so if your
argument Randy Cajun Randy if your
argument is that police officers when
they feel like it they shouldn't have to
follow Police Department policy so if
you're going to be consistent on that in
every situation like let's walk down
that path my opinion is that police
leaders need to create reasonable police
policy
um to guide police officers they need to
train them on that policy and then the
responsibility of police officers is to
follow that policy while they're on duty
working for the citizens of whatever
jurisdiction they happen to be in so
again when a police officer does
something wrong I don't sit here and say
oh well you know policy isn't law so I
mean that to me because I wouldn't be
able to be consistent with that so um
Randy I'm just asking for intellectual
consistency that if you're saying policy
isn't law and you don't want police
officers if you're saying that you don't
want police officers to follow policy
well again think about it next time a
police officer breaks a policy that your
thinking is well it's not law so they
don't have to follow it uh let's see uh
it came out today they told him many
times to drop his gun I think it was
suicide by cop danzilla thank you yeah
um like I said I'm usually pretty up to
date on these things and um I haven't
seen it yet so it must have just
happened 100 I promise you guys I will
get to it next week um and I'll be
totally informed about it and we'll have
the body cam video and stuff like that
but no I absolutely haven't haven't seen
that one yet so um yeah so this this
Illinois case is um a really really
interesting
um you know it's tragic that Mr Moore
died and I think it is correct that the
EMS Personnel are being held criminally
liable I think that's the correct thing
to do do okay so the last case that I
want to talk about this happened in
Albuquerque and it was a really strange
case so I think we're going to post a
picture of it or link a really awesome
article about this case but um so when I
A lot of times I talk about Albuquerque
New Mexico and I say the best way I
could describe Albuquerque New Mexico
it's like watching Breaking Bad like if
you've seen breaking bad that's
Albuquerque they really don't exaggerate
like how crazy this place is I think
it's the 26th or 25th biggest city but
it's typically in the top five when it
comes to violent crime and it's
absolutely just a wild play so just like
Breaking Bad here's an example of this
so police officers were called to a
shots fired call in a not a great part
of the city once they get there they
find an individual has been shot he's
not dead but he's been shot while
they're there they see other they hear
more shooting going on so a lot of
police coming to the scene there's more
gunfire around and they find a trail of
blood police officers essentially follow
a trail of blood into a trailer to see
if there's a victim them and they find a
tiger they find a baby tiger in a dog
cage inside this trailer while they're
on a shots fired call
um I said the footage from this is
unbelievable the tiger was unharmed and
the tiger is in the local Zoo there in
Albuquerque New Mexico but it's just one
of those things as the day in life of a
police officer you never know what's
going to happen you might have an easy
day you might have a day where someone
is shot um you definitely don't ever
expect that while you're on a shooting
call that you're gonna find a tiger
inside of a dog cage in a trailer in a
real crazy part of town so
um and I just want to say that uh to put
a little bit more on how crazy
Albuquerque is this is actually the
second time that Albuquerque has had a
tiger
um on a police call for service in the
last six months and you know over the
summer there was a call where a tiger
was found and there were rumors there
were rumors like in the local news that
there was actually another tiger out
there somewhere so you know I'm guessing
that someone in the police department or
animal services has been kind of looking
for this other tiger probably not how
they expected to find it and I should
just mention the tigers are not native
to Albuquerque New Mexico so the fact
that we've got two two tigers um in
really populated
um high crime areas is pretty strange so
it also it also begs the question so
there's also something that um I don't
know if we can link to it or not but
it's called Borderland Beat um it's
actually a great uh a really awesome
publication that talks about um cartels
and you know reading some of Borderland
beats um you know they they they
basically said that a lot of times these
cartel members they use tigers as like
human killing machines or to intimidate
people so again the fact that two of
them have been found in Albuquerque we
have awesome video that we posted um of
the one um is this an absolute crazy
thing so definitely wanted to put that
in there uh Bruce says uh oh how cute
until he grows up and he eats you yes uh
danzilla says uh Lacrosse Wisconsin is
is even with them yeah so Lacrosse
Wisconsin yeah Sophia says poor tiger
yeah listen this isn't the Tiger's fault
but again the tiger is
um the reports are that the tiger is
unharmed and the tiger is in the local
Zoo so tiger is fine so those were the
recent cases that I wanted to talk about
so I do want to get to one more thing
and I kind of teased this last week so
um I've been writing on on substack and
I wrote an article about this case that
got more views and reads than any other
any other article I've done I kind of
teased it and I kind of want to go
through it it's an officer-involved
shooting that occurred in Connecticut in
uh in 2020
um my opinion is that it's not a lawful
or reasonable officer-involved shooting
and I'm going to get into why so I did a
tick tock video probably about six or
seven months ago basically doing a
little bit of information just based on
the body cam footage and the dash cam
footage and I came to the opinion this
is not lawful not justified not a
reasonable officer involved shooting
um a couple people read that
um and they they they so since I did
that the public statement from the
police officer he's a Connecticut state
a trooper Trooper Brian North he did a a
statement that has since been public and
a couple individuals asked me if I would
you know consider reading through his
statement and then doing kind of like a
re-analysis or a re-breakdown of this
case so um I did feel that this was
important enough to do so I put a lot of
effort into it um reading the statement
watching all the body Cam and dash cam
so I'm gonna let you know what some of
my thoughts are people who are familiar
with this case definitely put your
comments um definitely put your comments
um in the chat and let me know if you
agree or disagree so um what happened
was this happened in July uh January of
2020 in Norwalk Connecticut there's an
individual whose name is Mubarak
solimani I may not be pronouncing his
last name right it's spelled
s-o-u-l-e-m-a-n-e I'm going to call him
solimani so Mr solimani was a 19 year
old college student who suffered from
schizophrenia and was off his meds he
went into an eight allegedly went into
an at T store he tried to steal a phone
um after that he went out to the parking
lot and he carjacked a Lyft driver's
vehicle so now he has the car and he's
driving away so now he's committed a
couple felonies you know trying to steal
the cell phone uh the carjacking of the
Lyft driver for now he's driving a
stolen vehicle so we have some charges
so obviously that is going to generate a
police response nor walk a Connecticut
police they got on scene they tried to
do a traffic stop in order to stop Mr
solimani well he didn't stop he kept
going he started to drive like a hundred
miles an hour um it became dangerous so
Norwalk Police Department decided they
were going to call off the chase that
you know essentially it was just too
dangerous it was too dangerous they
called off the chase well then more
citizens started to call in essentially
they said that now so now police aren't
chasing him anymore so you would think
that Mr Solomon so the the goal of
police officers the idea behind stopping
the chase of an individual in a vehicle
is so they stopped driving like an
[ __ ] right and so they you don't want
police officers to chase people and then
they drive crazy and they run red lights
and they crash into a family of six like
so the police officers not chasing
someone isn't because they have sympathy
for someone who committed a robbery and
a felony but it's because they just it's
the the safety of the general public on
a balancing scale it's too great of a
risk anyway so but after so after police
officers stopped chasing Mr solimani in
the stolen vehicle more people called in
that now not only is he still driving
like a maniac but he's crashing into car
so that again triggered a call from
police so now he's still driving
recklessly so now police are kind of in
the space so we have to get this guy off
the road because we're not chasing him
he's still driving like like an [ __ ]
so what they do is um police officers
get behind him they try to conduct
another traffic stop he doesn't follow
directions he doesn't stop he keeps
going eventually they use one of their
vehicles and it's not really a pit
maneuver a pit maneuver is kind of when
the police officer uses the the front of
their vehicle to kind of push the the
rear cord the rear panel of the rear
bumper and the vehicle kind of spins out
so the police officers really didn't do
a pit maneuver that kind of just one of
them kind of just like crashed into the
side of his vehicle with their vehicle
and kind of forced it off the road no
one was injured from the crash but
wasn't a typical pit maneuver like you
see a lot of the times anyway so now we
have at least three different police
officers are there on scene they
disabled the vehicle and here's what
happened so they get out of the car and
immediately Trooper North he's kind of
in front of Mr solimani's car on the
driver's side so if you can imagine he's
kind of on an angle um kind of on an
angle at near the front of the car but
very close to the driver's side of the
vehicle but he can see through the front
windshield so police officers are
yelling giving Mr solimani commands to
exit the vehicle he's not doing it at
this point he's alone in the car and he
doesn't appear to be armed with anything
no police officer can see any weapon in
his hand so at this point police
officers come up with a plan and you
know it's not an unreasonable plan what
the plan is there's a West Haven
Connecticut police officer he was going
to use his baton and smash out the front
passenger side window and another
Trooper Trooper Jackson he was going to
then try to extract Mr solimani from the
passenger side now I like to get into
the headspace of police officers of why
they do certain things so think about it
this way police officers are now going
to try to forcefully extract Mr solimani
from the vehicle because they're giving
him command's yelling at him and he's
just sitting there he isn't following
Direction so police officers have a
couple choices so and I like to look at
police officers choices in the moment
because it really goes to whether or not
that the police officers have good
intent or did they have bad intent right
were they trying to do everything they
could to keep this individual safe or
were they being Reckless and just didn't
care so what happened again so in this
case so if they're going to bash out a
window and to try to get Mr solimani out
of the car they could have bashed out
the front driver's side window right so
if they would have done that obviously
smashing out a window it the glass would
have gone right into Mr solimani's face
that would have been more dangerous for
Mr solomoni now probably easier to drag
him out of the car because he's in the
driver's seat would have been easier for
the police but more dangerous for Mr
solimani so they took even though he
committed all these felonies and was
driving crazy and not listening to them
they took that into consideration they
decided to bash out their front
passenger side now at this point the
West Haven Police Officer is about to
bash out the window uh the front patch
side window a trooper Jackson is armed
with a handgun at that point point so
Trooper North tells uh Trooper Jackson
hey put away your handgun go to Les
lethal go to a taser well this is
reasonable because Trooper North still
had lethal coverage over the situation
and think about it if you're going to
extract someone from a vehicle if you're
going to try to get them out of a car to
comply if they're not armed it makes
complete sense that you would have a
taser instead of a handgun in your hand
as long as another officer is there for
lethal coverage so again and again this
goes also into the intent of the police
officers is that they are trying to
extract him from the car not trying to
use deadly force they're literally
changing the weapon system in their hand
to something that is left less lethal
here's where everything breaks down all
right so uh the West Haven Police
Officer bashes out the front passenger
side window and at that point
um at that point Mr solimani arms
himself with a knife he he reaches into
his pocket and he pulls out a steak
knife and he's holding the steak knife
and he's kind of moving it in front of
his body in an aggressive manner
um at that point it every everything
happens pretty quick but at that point
Trooper North fires through the driver's
side I'm sorry fires through the front
windshield seven times killing Mr
solimani now on its face that doesn't
seem legitimate that doesn't seem
reasonable let's break down what
happened so
um Trooper North did an interview and he
said the reason why he did that so from
the perception of Trooper North here's
what he said he thought he said from
where he was standing he said that he
saw the officer bash in the front
passenger side window and he said that
he thought that one or two of the
officers were in the car
trying to get Mr solimani out and that
he saw Mr solimani aggressively moving
the knife he thought that the officer's
lives were in danger that they were
trying to extract someone that they
previously thought was unarmed now he's
armed himself for the knife he's moving
it aggressively in the direction of the
police officers uh and from the vantage
point of Trooper North he said that at
one point before he could see the other
two officers on the other side of the
vehicle but at the time he fired the
shots he said he couldn't see the other
officers he made an assumption that they
had entered the vehicle but this is a
tragic mistake effect because the
officers hadn't entered the vehicle
neither police officer had even tried to
open the door neither police officer had
had tried to go in the vehicle this was
a mistake effect what happened was and
it's unknown if it's just the police
officers watching their body camera
footage they kind of moved their
positions a little bit and they were
covered by the car so Trooper North
couldn't see them anymore also it's
unknown of Trooper North in his
stressful situations people get tunnel
vision that's a real thing so it's
unknown if he had tunnel vision
um but from his point of view he heard
the window saw the window being bashed
out
um he thought that the plan was to go
right and get Mr solimani it's at that
moment that Mr solimani grabs the knife
and starts moving it towards the police
officers he thought that an officer was
in danger when he fired the shots but
the reality is the objective truth no
police officer was in danger no police
officer had tried to open the door and
no police officer had entered the
passenger compartment of the car so
Trooper uh Trooper um Trooper North was
charged with first degree manslaughter
so that's some of the facts of the case
um my opinion of this is and I'm glad
that I read the statement from Trooper
north um I think it was helpful in my
analysis of this case
um but I I come to the same opinion this
was not a lawful reasonable and
Justified officer-involved shooting and
here's why so in Canada under
Connecticut Law and many states have
very similar laws when it comes to when
police officers can use deadly force
essentially what the law in Connecticut
says is that a police officer can use
deadly force if there are a couple
things present one the police officer
has a belief that someone's life is in
danger and two that belief has to be
objectively reasonable so let's go to
the first element of this so a police
officer has to have a belief
that someone's life is in danger now in
Trooper North's head did he have an
honest belief that someone's life was in
danger yeah he did there's no indication
that he's lying there's no indication
that he was being deceitful in any way
so yes in his head he absolutely did
meet that element He had a belief that
someone's life and other police
officer's life was in danger
now we get to the second part and this
is where it's problematic was that
belief objectively reasonable okay so
what we have to think okay we have to
break it down even a further layer okay
what evidence did trooper North have to
believe that the officers had entered
into that car so it was the plan bash
out the window and then go in it was the
plan but he never saw a trooper open the
door he never heard the door open and he
could see through the front driver's
side window and uh he could see through
the he could see through the front
windshield he never saw a police officer
inside the car he never saw the door
open he never saw
anyone inside the vehicle he because he
couldn't see them out of his uh
peripheral vision that he assumed that
one of them had gone in the car so
essentially he used deadly force based
on very thin evidence that someone's
life was in danger
um if we are going to be objective that
is not a lawful or Justified
officer-involved shooting and if it's
not a Justified police shooting again we
have to be objective and say that
unjustified police involved shootings
have to be prosecuted so I do think that
it is appropriate for Trooper North to
be prosecuted um he is looking at a
possible maximum sentence of 20 years in
prison now he was charged with first
degree manslaughter what he did actually
also meets the the statute for second
degree manslaughter which is a sentence
of 10 years
um so honestly I kind of hope that the
charges get reduced if anything to
second degree manslaughter now just
because I think that he should be
prosecuted doesn't mean I think that he
should be spend 20 years in jail because
I don't because of the The Unbelievable
mitigating factors in this case because
we know this wasn't like an evil cop who
had bad intentions who's out to hurt
people and we know that for a couple
different reasons again the the officers
decided to not smash out the window and
Mr solimani's face which they could have
done they would have been reasonably
able to do that but they didn't because
they didn't want to get glass in his
face and hurt him then even though
officer Jackson Trooper Jackson had a
gun it was officer North who told him
hey arm yourself with a taser all of
these things go into the bucket of
evidence that Trooper North didn't want
to use deadly force this was a mistake
effect yes it's a mistake effect and
someone died because of it which is why
I'm saying I think he should be
prosecuted but the unbelievable amount
of mitigating factors not to mention
literally all of this was because Mr
solimani made awful horrible and
disgusting decisions that day committing
felonies literally putting everyone's
life in danger so the horrible awful
Decisions by Mr solimani like that's
what started in caused this entire thing
and then once he put police officers
into a horrible and bad and stressful
situation yet under those circumstances
that he didn't create Trooper North made
a mistake so what this case reminds me
of is Kim Potter this is essentially the
closest thing to Kim Potter that I can
think of because again you remember the
Kim Potter case with Dante Wright it was
the taser confusion where she intended
to take out her taser and to tase Mr
Wright which would have absolutely been
100 justifiable but she accidentally
pulled out a handgun and shot him and
killed him so she was charged with
negligent homicide in Minnesota where
this happened she was convicted and uh
um
Kim Potter was sentenced to I believe
two and a half years in prison I think
this case is very similar uh to the Kim
Potter case I think a range of some if
he's convicted I think of range of
somewhere on the lower end somewhere
between one to three years is probably
appropriate for what happened in this
case because someone did lose their life
life
um but I I honestly believe that there
are unbelievable mitigating
circumstances and I I intent go so far
with me like what was the intent of the
police officer if an officer has bad
intent is trying to hurt someone is
trying to go out of their way to be
brutal like Derek Chauvin again no one
is defending Derek shova no one no cop
no no one who is pro police is losing
any sleep over Derek Chauvin spending 22
years in prison but yeah Trooper North I
would lose sleep over that that would
bother me so um again I I my opinion is
he should be prosecuted if convicted it
should be a Kim Potter type sentence
somewhere you know one to three years
two and a half years that sounds about
right for this case now I'm sure I'm
gonna get a lot of pushback so when I
when I posted this this uh it's
interesting so I know that I'm on the
right track the right track for me is
being objective it's being objective
it's being alt middle it's being as
reasonable as possible and as honest as
possible and kind of the kind of the
gauge to where I know if I'm there or
not is I get criticism from pro-police
people telling me I'm all [ __ ] up and
then I get people who are anti-police
Nut Cases who are also telling me I'm
all [ __ ] up so if my if my article of
my opinion of my video if I'm getting
criticism from both sides then I'm
probably the calm little center of the
universe which is exactly where I'm
trying to be as someone who's
objectively looking at these cases so
I'm expecting and kind of hoping for
criticism and pushback from both sides
so let's see what you guys have to say
uh let's see Sergeant George the
collaboration from every single law
enforcement agency is great to see okay
I'll talk about that in a second uh
let's see oh uh let's see uh Mr uh uh
homie Kane there must be a technological
way to stop fleeing Vehicles why can't
uh uh uh bollards be started to flush
underground and then for you to to block
in motorists um yeah so that's uh let me
let me talk about that so that's really
good so technology to stop vehicles I
think it's out there I've actually seen
a video of police technology that's out
there I don't know how many departments
use it where you do a couple things
where um you know some police officers
have like the front of their vehicle
kind of I don't know if it's underneath
their push bumper but there's something
in the front of their vehicle where they
they press a button it's kind of like a
Batman thing and this thing shoots out
it goes underneath the car in front of
them and it somehow disables the vehicle
I remember seeing a video about it a
couple years ago so I think some police
departments do have that police officers
can throw out spike strips um police
officers have technology where they
essentially shoot a dart at a car that
has a GPS on it so if they don't have to
necessarily follow the car and get
involved in really dangerous police
Pursuits but they can know where the
vehicle is because they've shot it with
like a dart that's sticky um so all of
that is reasonable and again in this
case Mr solimani though he committed
felonies he was driving so dangerous
police initially stopped chasing him but
after they stopped chasing him police
were getting more calls that he was
literally ramming and crashing into
people well at that point police just
essentially don't have a choice they
have to get the car off the road at that
point um so in a case like this they
have to get the car off the road
um there really isn't anything they can
do if Mr solimani after the Police
Stopped chasing them and again and again
in order to commit crimes like that and
run from police you're not a reasonable
person so expecting that any of their
actions are going to be reasonable is a
little silly to even talk in this in
this area but you know once the Police
Stopped chasing Mr Salman if he would
have said oh the Police Stopped chasing
me I'm gonna drive the speed limit like
a normal person and get to the
destination that I'm supposed to go to
um I mean had he said that then police
officers never would have re-engaged
right but he was driving like a maniac
crashing into people police have to get
a car off the road in a situation like
that they really don't have a choice uh
let's see uh Trey Rocky how good how
come cops don't shoot arms or legs um
that's a good question I'm going to
answer that now so the reason that
police officer others don't shoot arms
or legs is because the use of a gun by a
police officer and
um tree you tell me if I'm if you're
tracking here the use of a handgun by a
police officer is in the category it's
considered deadly force so I think
that's a good thing what that means is
that police officers can't use this tool
the handgun they can't use it for
anything less so if there's a situation
that doesn't call for deadly force we
don't want police officers to be
shooting at you know people's uh pinky
toes right we want police officers to
utilize tasers to utilize beanbag
shotguns to utilize 40 millimeters
chemical munition so so again so if it's
deadly force that's the only time that a
police officer can use a handgun okay so
now we're in a space I hope we agree on
that because we don't want police
officers using guns more when it's not a
deadly force situation police officers
are trained not to kill people not [ __ ]
to kill police officers are stop are
taught to shoot to stop the threat so um
to stop the threat that's what police
officers are trained to do police
officers are also are trained to shoot
Center Mass so think about it this way
no matter what the target is let's say
someone it has someone health it's a
silly situation I don't think it's ever
happened but let's say for some reason
you know the only thing that's exposed
of the individual who has the hostage or
someone's going to throw a bomb or
something again it's a silly situation
um that the only thing exposed is from
their knee down okay well if that's all
the police officers are able to see
they're going to try to shoot for the
very center of that and the reason for
that is because there's less of a chance
that you're going to miss and when
police officers Miss imagine what could
be hit in the backdrop so think about it
this way so police officers again
they're not paid to be um the best bare
knuckle boxers and they're also not paid
to be the best marks persons they're not
they're not they're not they're all not
snipers right to be nice if there were
but I mean you know we don't have enough
police officers as there is you can't
put people through hundreds of hours of
shooting training every single year
um so the police officers when they're
involved in officer involved shootings
they actually miss a lot because you
have to think about it this way an
officer involved shooting most police
officers do a 20 25 year career never
get into to a shooting so it's an
extremely rare so the first time that
you're in a shooting it's literally the
most stressful few moments of your
entire life so the idea that if you you
so it's it's an unreasonable expectation
you're going to put a police officer in
literally the most stressful 10 seconds
of their entire life and you're going to
expect them to hit a Target that is
small like an arm or a leg that's also
moving under incredible stress and then
expect them I mean what's going to
happen is they're going to miss a lot
more it's not reasonable and there's
also a femoral artery in the leg that if
you hit you're gonna die immediately
anyway so the argument that shooting
someone in the leg is somehow Gonna Save
a Life absolutely not correct and the
last thing I'm going to say about this
is if the goal is if deadly force isn't
authorized meaning like this person's
not there's no deadly threat from this
person then police officers shouldn't be
shooting at any part of their body they
should be using a weapon system so
that's why in these officers involved
shooting cases especially like with the
Patrick Loyola case
um where the shot placement was that's
not a relevant question the question we
have to ask is was deadly force
objectively reasonable if we say yes
then whether the police officer shot the
individual in the pinky toe or or in the
head uh you're you're we're admitting
that deadly force is authorized that's
the answer to that question uh let's see
um Steve Jets three days off with pay
yeah so oh okay so Steve jet so yeah so
um I I that's that's a criticism of
essentially when a police officer is
involved in the shooting they get three
days off with pay you know sometimes
they get more time off with pay so um I
guess my question is would you prefer
the day after an officer involved
shooting
um they have to do administrative
interviews um they have to see
Behavioral Health Counselors um they
have to make sure that they're up to
date on on on uh they have to make sure
that while the administrative review is
going on that they're fit to duty to go
back to duty so if you're saying Steve
that you want police officers a day
after the shooting to not worry about
giving investigators an interview to not
talk talking to Behavioral Services you
want that you're so pro-police Steve
that you want these officers to just go
right back onto the street like nothing
happened if that's your position okay
fine I'm gonna disagree with you so I
think it's reasonable to give police
officers a couple days off to decompress
because it's my opinion we do not want
police officers to go back out on the
streets after a stressful situation like
that until they are mentally ready
because I think that more bad things
will happen there will be more
officer-involved shootings if we do what
Steve wants that's my opinion Maybe I'm
Wrong put in the comments if you think
I'm wrong uh let's see um
uh let's see danzilla do you watch the
police activity channel uh yeah uh we we
put a bunch of police videos on our
Channel that's mostly what we watch now
let's see uh gone well the biggest uh
artery in the body is in leg if you
shoot someone there they might uh they
might just die yeah um uh Gone wall
that's exactly 100 correct and again if
the goal if we think okay there's a
there's a situation that's happening the
police officers have a goal if that goal
is and it's reasonable and Justified
because someone's posing a deadly threat
then yes deadly force is authorized if
deadly force is not authorized then use
a different weapon system I think we can
all agree on that um so that's why some
of the criticisms of shoot him in the
leg and it's not it's not I don't a lot
of times I don't think it's coming from
a bad place um I think it's more more
than one of the times like it was here
people are asking questions why police
don't do something so as people who have
police experience and police knowledge
like we shouldn't get mad at those
people we should literally be answering
those questions in a reasonable in the
reasonable space because people who
don't know we want to answer questions
you say hey why are police officers
doing that we should be able to tell why
we should say this is why police
officers are doing that and then we can
have a discussion is that good or is it
bad and that's how this should go so
just because someone has a question
doesn't mean it's bad it's actually a
good thing uh let's see
um okay so Cajun Randy isn't a serious
person anymore so that's that's cool
Sergeant George says it's tough to prove
a Justified shooting sometimes yeah it
it often is and Sergeant George yeah
like I said I got a lot of pushback on
this and um what I try to do is be
objective um and really what it comes
down to with this Trooper North case is
that it what it when you layer it down
um at its basic level
um Trooper North had a belief that the
officers were in danger and he based
that belief in my opinion on thin
evidence
um he didn't have great evidence that
the officers were in danger and he
decided to use his firearm um in that
moment so that's why I think it's not a
Justified officer about shooting though
tons of mitigating factors again I think
this is uh Kim potterish is what I think
about this this particular case all
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