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good afternoon this is Daniel here with cops and cons TV I just want to welcome everyone into our live show and this is where we're going to review and investigate and really talk about some of the most interesting cases that happened in the police World from the last week or so um again I want to welcome everyone in let's see where everybody's watching from today looks like we have red pill slave from Nebraska and boom news is from Northern Illinois uh there's a snowstorm there tonight we got Sergeant George in California excellent It's good to see everybody in today and just like we do every week while I'm going through these stories if you have any questions or comments definitely make sure you put it in the chat because one of our favorite things to do is kind of go back and forth with our viewers really interested to see exactly what you think about these cases and as always it's definitely possible that you might have more information than I do all right looks like we got a super chat from uh valknites excellent thank you so much valknight really appreciate the support on that if you have a comment um please let us know we'd love to we'd love to get it right in there but um thank you so much for the support really appreciate that and the other way that I love the content thank you so much valknight again really really appreciate the support on that thank you again one of the other ways that you can support us is definitely go ahead and subscribe to our Channel share the channel as well to friends or family because we definitely like as many people not just to watch the raw body cam footage that we put out throughout the week from different incidents involving police officers from around the country but we love having as many people as possible here in these live shows to really get the discussion going and if there's a case that for some reason maybe we didn't think about her as a local case but didn't make it to the National level definitely put it in the chat it's one of those things where we can definitely get it on the docket for next case um and uh thank you Sergeant shorts on 400 uh yes we did just reach 400 000 Subs on this channel so again thank you all for the support on that again my name is Daniel if you want to go ahead and follow me I'm over at police law news over at YouTube and Tick Tock and sub stack and all of those places all right so the first case that we're going to get into today this is an officer let's see uh vulc Knight says first I wish uh YouTube fixed notifications I have to go to my sub box to see who's made video or streaming yeah I'm not sure I would like them to fix that as well but I think we're going to put in the chat here in a second maybe some maybe some info on that for you um so the first case that we're going to get into today so this is an officer involved shooting that happened in Frederick Maryland and the reason that we're going to cover this case first is because the body cam footage just came out I actually just saw it yesterday so let me set this up and and so you can see exactly what happened why police officers were involved in an officer-involved shooting in this particular case so again this is in Frederick Maryland the individual who is involved with police officers his name is Joseph Cheryl and essentially the reason police officers were even you know interested in Joseph Cheryl at all is because he had a felony warrant outstanding for his arrest for a probation violation so a lot of times we talk about lawful objective it's one of my absolute biggest things when it comes to do police officers have a lawful objective to even contact someone essentially let me ask it another way what are the police officers trying to do is it reasonable is it important is it lawful so is there Reasonable Suspicion probable cause that Baseline stuff is so important to me when it comes to police and citizen interaction and essentially because when you look at an officer-involved shooting I am always so interested in how did this start is there something that police officers could have done different should they have even have been there in the first place well again this is a situation where Joseph Cheryl he wasn't stopped because he had like a tail light out or some other [ __ ] traffic offense no he was on probation and he didn't do something for his probation so he didn't do something for his probation so a judge issued a warrant that's a felony warrant so he had a felony warrant for his arrest police police officers had some information not sure exactly where it was from but police officers had some information that he was kind of hiding out at his ex-girlfriend's apartment so as what reasonable police officers would do is in order to try to take him into custody and execute this warrant is to go to the ex-girlfriend's apartment so they do that they make contact with the ex-girlfriend and at first she basically tells them hey he's not here and she doesn't let police officers inside however police officers are able to convince her after a couple minutes of conversation that it really is in her best interest to essentially not Harbor a felon so they let her know hey he's a felon he has a warrant so if you're harboring him or hiding him that's actually a crime as well so it's not it's strange for a police officer to explain to the girlfriend you know exactly what kind of charges she could be facing you know if she is harboring a wanted felon so she does let police officers into the into the apartment as soon as officers get into the apartment they do the right thing they call out that they are police officers and they make their intentions known they say you know Joseph Cheryl we're here please come out with your hands-free and clear here no one comes out police officers you know it's a small apartment it's a two or three bedroom apartment after a couple minutes of going through the residence police officers come to a bedroom and there's a closet where the door is open you know a lot of times people hide you know a lot of people are good Runners but they're really bad hiders this is an example of someone not being a good Hider because it's the clouds but the closet door is wide open and Mr Cheryl is is kind of crouched down with a knife as soon as the police officer enters the room and kind of goes around the corner he sees it and he tells Mr Cheryl immediately to drop the knife and it's at that point that the police officer he did the right thing in this situation because he didn't just stand there and plot his gun and and bark commands at Mr Cheryl what he did is he did give him commands to drop the knife but he also backed out of the room so he backed out of the out of out of the bedroom and basically in into the living room to where he was essentially giving Mr Cheryl as much distance in time as he possibly could in order to negotiate with Mr Cheryl however during the Mr Cheryl told police officers I'm not going back to jail and you're gonna have to shoot me so police officers obviously are giving him multiple commands to drop the knife however he refuses he doesn't listen he emerges from the bedroom and he starts running at police officers with a knife it was at that point that two different police officers fired their weapons at Mr Cheryl and he was shot and killed he sustained fatal injuries um the body cam footage of that just came out today um to me looking at the body cam footage um it does appear that it's a a reasonable and uh officer-involved shooting that is within the law I did put up a tick tock video about it earlier today and you know a lot of the times almost no matter how Justified an officer-involved shooting is there's a lot of people who just don't like police or really have it in their minds that no matter what happens they're going to say the police did the wrong thing and you know it's got a couple thousand views because I just put it up and a lot of comments but so far I don't even have the normal anti-police activists or normal people who are opposed to police who are um giving me given any kind of a problem about this one almost everyone is saying they believe this is a Justified officer-involved shooting so let's see what some of the what some of the comments here on this one uh let's see uh Ivan Ibarra escalation of force not sure what you mean but um I want to go ahead and explain that a little bit it uh let's see interactions are a must if you comply with law enforcement yeah so I mean the thing about officer involved shootings they are almost always precipitated by two different things the first is that an individual commits a crime typically a felony crime second is when the individual is contacted by police officers they run they fight or they attack police officers it's essentially I mean this is basically a math problem if you have those two elements the what's going to come out on the other side is a much higher chance that there is going to be an officer involved shooting but the good thing is if you don't commit a felony and then don't run from or attack police officers your chances of getting killed by are harmed by a police officer are virtually zero so it's essentially a really easy thing to avoid if you want to uh let's see uh John kitter is leaving a rude comment but that's okay boom news says she shouldn't have let them in the apartment to start with no matter what yeah boom news that's an interesting that is an interesting um um comment that she shouldn't have let him in the apartment and yeah I'm mean you know probably what she should have done is called her her attorney and then you know explained what was going on or the thing to do in the first place so if you're harboring a felon okay not trying to give advice to criminals but if you're harboring a felon and you know the Felon is in there right and police are knocking at your door the easiest thing to do is just don't answer don't answer the door I mean if they if you know if they're knocking on your door they may have an inclination or an inkling that the individual is inside the house but they don't know for sure police aren't psychic you know most likely didn't have an undercover detective you know somewhere in the area watching him go inside the apartment for hours and hours so yeah so the best thing to do is probably not open up the door but once you do and you contact the police officers and you tell them that that he's not there well like then you are pretty much opening up yourself to possible criminal charges so in the interest of of of self-preservation yeah at that point it might it might make sense just on a self-preservation level to not to to let the police officers in but again probably just don't answer the door in the first place is the most reasonable thing to do Ivan ibari says it's just because they follow protocol it was their life at the time yeah um absolutely I mean yeah I mean it was that they really did everything that um uh yeah I mean really it's they didn't do anything wrong and that's why I kind of walked everybody through this case you know why they were there in the first place and how they got there and I kind of went by step through step because when people criticize police or have questions about what police did and people should no matter what your level of experience or education is when it comes to policing people should absolutely 100 ask questions about why police did certain things and I like questions or I want people to start thinking about these cases to break these cases down into very specific elements so let's say you have an issue with well I don't like that I don't like this officer involved shooting I don't think it's a good officer involved shooting okay well why is it the reason for the stop okay once the officer stop the individual ran do you have an issue with that and then I once you can really just hone in and identify where the problem is you can then I like I'd like people to point to there was training policy or law there was something in there that would have dictated a reasonable police officer do something different that's where I think that reasonable conversations are in that's kind of why I like to walk people a little bit slowly step by step through these officer-involved shooting cases so if there is an issue we can pinpoint exactly what that issue is because the goal in all this is to make it so that there's less officer involved shootings if there's less violence between citizens and police uh let's see um uh uh Andrew and Tristan Tate okay all right um let's see Sergeant George sometimes you just can't trust trust Tick Tock I think most of the time you can't trust Tick Tock however that's where I have my biggest platform I think I have 138 000 followers over there so um I usually I make a lot of videos over there Ivan says there are situations where even if she doesn't let him in they can go in without a warrant especially when there's a felon that is is armed inside absolutely 100 percent Ivan that is absolutely correct and like I said her best option um if she really if her goal is to one not get charged with a crime and to not have her boyfriend be taken into custody she probably just shouldn't have opened the door right all right so that's that that officer involved shooting um again his name was uh uh Joseph Cheryl in Frederick Maryland you can go ahead and watch the body cam it is all over out there um here's a case that I want to talk about and you know this happened on March 12th of this past year but I didn't find out about it until St Patrick's Day so it's kind of a St Patrick's uh themed themed case so this is a an incident that happened in Oklahoma City Oklahoma where a police officer actually a police captain was pulled over and arrested for drunk driving now I'm going to talk about this case and kind of go through the facts and some of the weird things that are involved in this case but drunk driving DUI DWI that's something that people have a lot of not just opinions about but people have all kinds of questions about so this is one of the few things in law enforcement that I know a lot about when it comes to drunk driving and use of force that's kind of my wheel head and case law it's kind of my wheelhouse so I mean you're not going to ever hear me talk about blood splatter or spatter or or how to investigate how do how to investigate fingerprints or a crime scene or reconstruction of a traffic crash not my thing but DUI and use of force that's my thing so if you have any questions on DUI or comments in general definitely put it in there and I'll try to answer questions as we go through so again this happened on March 12th of this past year and a police Sergeant with the Oklahoma City Police Department he was doing his thing driving around and a car in front of him is driving all over the place he's driving wild and the the driving is so reckless the speeding pretty much driving on the wrong side of the road and the driving is so bad and here's how you know the driving is bad it's because the sergeant behind the bad driver didn't even have a chance to run the license plate so what police officers normally do is they see a car and if a car commits a traffic a violation of traffic code they want to conduct a traffic stop most police officers will type in their little computer the license plate of the car because that tells them a couple things that says whether or not the vehicle is stolen whether it's registered whether it's insured and a lot of time we'll also say who the registered owner is it'll say you know what the address is but it gives police officers a lot of information also you can imagine a situation where dispatch would also want to know who the who the the police officer is is going to pull over in case there is an officer involved shooting or the driver flees that we have the information on file I've given you a lot of reasons why police officers run license plates before they initiated traffic's up so if a police officer conducts a traffic stop before running the license plate you know something strange happened well what's happened here that was strange that the driving was so bad the police Sergeant behind the vehicle was really just trying to catch up to the driver and trying to get the driver off the road didn't even have time to run the license plate so um the officer does eventually catch up the driver conduct a traffic stop and the individual who's driving the car pulls into the the driveway of a residence um essentially you know this is weird um and this is always strange for police officers when this happened as soon as the car stopped an individual steps out of the car and he's just kind of standing there staring at the police officer now everybody knows that that's not normal behavior now if it's in the middle of the day or it's an elderly driver and you know maybe someone doesn't see the police lights and you know every now and then a police officer conducts the traffic stop and someone exits and usually it's during the day because police lights in but they're generally harder to see during the day at night it's very obvious if there's police lights behind you but sometimes people just like honestly didn't realize they were being pulled over well let me tell you what the reaction is to that if you were stopped by police but didn't realize it and stopped your car and get out of the car you get out of your car and turn around you see a police officer behind you those people are always shocked surprised usually apologetic because they're not trying to do anything rude or anything strange for the police officer so when someone steps out of a kind of traffic stop and that isn't their reaction meaning they just stand there and stare at you something's wrong every police officer knows okay something is wrong here but that's what this guy did he got out and he just stared at the police officer and the police officer yelled at him to get back in his car and the guy he starts to you can tell his words are like slurred and it's really hard to understand but he says like I'm I'm and he's not really making any sense and the police officer says you're drunk and tells him to get back inside the car guy gets back inside the car almost immediately the individual identifies himself as James French who is a captain which is a pretty high rank with the Oklahoma City Police Department during this context he's essentially asking for special treatment multiple times and this is what's strange about so he knows that the officer has a body camera rolling and three different times that I was able to find during this interaction Captain James French tells the tells the sergeant who stopped him to turn off the body camera but what he does is he kind of Whispers it he whispers it almost as if the audio from the body camera isn't going to pick that up it's really strange he whispers turn off the body camera and he points to where the body camera is on the police officer's chest and again it's just it just it's just strange because it's like Whispering there's a thing catches audio Whispering isn't going to um do anything to not catch that on audio uh on the body camera footage so I think that maybe goes to his level of intoxication it's really strange so the police officer kind of laughs at him and says I'm not turning off my body camera um turns out not only is he a captain with the police department also the city uh the vehicle that the Mr French is driving is a city-owned vehicle and the reason why I say that you know that was a little bit of a surprise is because had the officer ran the likes that it was an undercover vehicle or an unmarked vehicle so it wasn't a government plate or anything but had the officer run the license plate he probably would have found out that the license plate came back to the the to the City of Oklahoma City but he didn't even run the license plate before he made contact because the driving was so bad so the police officer gets him out he runs them through field sobriety tests and he does terrible on the field sobriety test he screws up every single test um as signs of impairment on every single test so I'm at the end of it um Captain French asked you know am I going to be arrested kind of like he's still wanting some special treatment like he's thinking that he that he did well on these tests or something and he could barely even stand up at this point so he just did awful on these standardized field sobriety tests so um he was arrested he was charged with DUI um he has resigned from the Oklahoma City Police Department he was there for well over 2 20 years the body cam footage is is pretty ridiculous in this case especially the part we're kind of in like a creepy whisper voice he's asking the police officer to turn off the body camera footage the sergeant in this case did everything right did everything correct um he did not treat uh Captain French any differently which was the correct thing to do all right let's see if we have any uh questions or comments about this case um let's see uh oh the irony I mean as a police officer you stop people who are drunk and yet the police Sergeant uh goes against that uh okay um uh Sergeant George doesn't mean police captain not police Sergeant my mistake yeah yeah and this is a strange thing for a police captain to do I mean so I really don't have any sympathy for drunk drivers especially in major cities especially when people you know have the means to call an Uber um it's an unbelievably Reckless and self-selfish thing to do uh let's see um Ivan ibarro Zero Tolerance policy buddy agree uh let's see Sergeant George has Captain James French had a done a massive disservice to his community I agree I agree uh let's see a boom news uh let's see before body cams he would have been let go boom news that's an interesting question you know um so that was before I was in law enforcement but my guess is that you're correct uh my guess is that in the 80s and 90s um before I before I was involved in law enforcement I think that that's probably the thing that probably likely happened a lot of the time um I don't think that happens I don't think that happens anymore I I don't really think that happens as much um but your point about body cameras being a real deterrent to that I agree with you which is one of the reasons why I absolutely love about body cameras um you know a professional courtesy is is very less likely to happen when it comes to DUI or domestic violence or anything like that when body camera for when body cameras are rolling I'm a huge advocate for body cameras all the studies that I've seen show that approximately 80 cent of police officers in the United States do are equipped with body cameras that should be a hundred percent of police officers and it's not the fault of the individual police officer it's the fault of the politicians who run police agencies who are not getting them body cameras um but yeah no boom news that's a that that is a good point that the body cameras definitely helped to hold people accountable both police officers on duty and police officers who are off duty may be doing things that are illegal a huge advocate of body cameras um so yeah so so let me just talk about DUI for a second so um DUI is is is is is is is one of those things where there are still thousands of people that are killed every year by drunk drivers and again it's it's absolutely just a ridiculous thing and you know I I police officers and Matt have done so much to impact DUI and really get the levels down and make it a socially unaccepted thing but I've said this multiple times that that you know as law enforcement enforcement and checkpoints all of that is so important but I honestly believe that the market that capitalism that Uber and Lyft that ride share Services have done more to stop drunk driving than anything that police officers have done in the last 20 years um so just the availability to have ride share Services uh the availability to have Rideshare Services pick people up and to avoid drunk driving not everyone takes not everyone uh takes takes advantage advantages of those but they they absolutely should um yeah and you know Uber codes are being handed out by government agencies on on big holidays so there's definitely a media push in the government push to get people to use these ride share services and you know it's really when police departments make it easy for Rideshare and municipalities and governments make it easy for uh ride share Services um to to operate and and the the availability of these in major cities is great uh Brian W says uh we have the Paul Pelosi rule in California yeah Brian um so the thing about the Paul Pelosi case so he was actually charged um uh it took a long time to get the body camera footage um but um he did it did take a long time to um get the body camera footage and uh cops and cons um definitely we do have a few videos of of police officers and politicians and being arrested for drunk driving so definitely go through through our channel to watch those body camera videos are always um incredibly interesting um Brian W he was kind of charged yeah you know I mean um yeah he was kind of charged you know um as much as I would like to say that Paul Pelosi um uh got special treatment um you know what he was arrested and you know he essentially and so this isn't a critique of what happened with the Paul Pelosi case this is just kind of in general this is what I always say is that you know governments and police agencies and courts they don't really take DUI or DWI that seriously because first time offenders like Paul Pelosi he was he was a first-time offender so most of the time they have to go through what's called if they plead guilty you know they have to go through what's called a first offender program you know Most states have something similar and essentially with that is they make you sit through Mothers Against Drunk Driving classes they make you take alcohol tests a lot of times you have to get one of those interlock devices installed in your car you have to sit through Victim Impact panels really they waste your time for about six months to a year you know and then that's basically and if as long as you don't screw up and you follow all those things most of the time you're not going to do any other jail time for a first time DUI offense so I believe that's what happened with Paul Pelosi and you know I think that's pretty normal around around the country so my criticism isn't that Paul Pelosi got special treatment he got the treatment everybody else does and I don't think that it is it is Harsh enough uh Sergeant George which is why nowadays you would see this drive sober or get pulled over public service announcements yes absolutely yeah we we definitely definitely have those um any other comments about this case uh let's see um yeah no other comments about this case but uh yeah there was really no no excuse for this and uh Captain James French I believe he was pulling into his mother's house is what he is what he told the the the the the police officer um let's see um let's see uh when it comes to so the next case that I'm I'm gonna so so the next case that I'm going to talk about is you know this is really something happened back in 2020 and a lot of people remember 2020. so 2020 that's when we had the officer involved fatal shootings uh officer involved uh uh fatal uh Linda Branham says any of the first time classes are very important it's not a waste of time Linda okay so I I agree with you so maybe I didn't uh State my thoughts as articulately as I would like to so let me rephrase that Linda what I was saying Linda is that a lot of people think that a first-time DWI offender that there should be some jail time attached because most of these crimes they do have like a maximum of 364 days in jail or 150 days in jail so there are Jay there is jail time that is attached to a first-time drunk driving case in Most states however most people don't have to spend time in jail that as long as you go to these classes which I agree are important Linda I'm with you 100 I'm not saying they're bad I'm not saying they're not helpful I think they are but I guess what I was trying to say is that as long as you follow um what you're supposed to do when you listen to the course and you go to the classes um it does take up a lot of time it is extremely time consuming but as long as you follow that you won't do any other jail time in Most states so that's what I was trying to say Linda I do think the classes are important I also think that the classes are effective meaning that you know if you look at all the research that's done you know the the the percentage of people who get one DUI um it's a much lower percentage of of this pretty small percentage of the people who get a second DUI after they take those classes so I do think that they are important don't think they're they're they're not the classes are a waste of time but essentially they eat up a lot of time um from the offender I mean that in is in exchange for instead of having to go to jail all right so let's talk about 2020. so the reason I want to talk about the Riots of 2020 is because two different police departments I think there's more but this week two different police departments just did multi-million dollar settlements with people who were rioting in the streets in 2020 let me tell you what happened so 2020 this was a bad year obviously it was it was covid um Linda thank you so much I apologize I didn't articulate that the first time um so um when it comes to 2020 so this was the year of not just covet but also officer-involved shootings I mean a lot of controversial ones we had we had the Brianna Taylor shooting we had the George Floyd case and we had the Jacob Blake shooting amongst others but you know really we have these and it was the George Floyd shooting in on May 25th of 2020 that really set off a lot of the crime in the riots and you know I was I was on I was on a panel yesterday um on a show called before the court on YouTube that's going to be coming out sometime and I was on a panel yesterday with a retired uh Deputy Chief from the Chicago Police Department and we were asked the question of you know what's the worst thing about the George Floyd um about the George Floyd case and you know of course of course the loss of life to the individual that's the most important but you know when it comes to society and relationships between police and the citizens what's the worst thing like what's the impact of that case and you know I think the impact of that case is that from 2019 to 2020 that the murder rate in the country went up 30 percent thousands of more people died um because the streets got so much more violent and I know a lot of people say well it was because of covid it's not because of covet so I've looked into the research and dug into the research on this and it's not because of covet if you look at the murder rate of 2019 to 2020 from the beginning of the year through the end of May the murder rate was exactly the same it's pretty much on track from 2019 to 2020 the huge jump the huge Spike came after May 25th after George Floyd was killed by police so um you know all of these riots that were supposedly in the name of social justice the result is that thousands of more people died across the country so that was the result of of a lot of these a lot of these rides so just a little bit of of some of some some statistics about riots from 2020. so um what we've been able to find is that there were approximately 8 700 protests during that summer all around the country of those 800 8700 you know only there's only a small percentage that actually turned into you know riots where there was like vandalism and crime and but that still was about 574 riots around the country during that there were 2 000 police officers that were injured and of the 140 cities that were unlucky enough to host one of these riots they suffered approximately two billion dollars in property crime uh damage um so you know so I went on Twitter the other day and you know so I saw I'm gonna get into the settlements here in a second so um there was settlements New York police department and the Philadelphia Police Department just settled multi-million dollar lawsuits with individuals who were rioting and protesting during this time so I went on Twitter the other day and I said something to the effect of police should not use excessive force or violate civil rights during a riot but those important concerns must come secondary to literally preventing a city from being burned To The Ground by violent Maniacs stop the Mayhem then worry about being friendly and that kind of started this this thread where people were this started this thread that where people were also chiming in um someone said uh firefighters should not worry about water damage when putting out a fire and you could see what the other examples would be um so you know it's it's what's frustrating for police officers is that essentially there's a riot that occurs politicians who run police departments essentially send and force police officers to go and respond to these riots knowing that the police officers are outnumbered and then these same these very politicians they backstab police officers because instead of aggressively trying to go after um the individuals who are protesting and they were riding in violent fashion and smashing in Windows instead of you know advocating for aggressive prosecution they are meekly setting settling civil lawsuits with these people and that is infuriating to a lot of police officers because no cops like riots there's no police officer who says you know what I would like to do on my day off I would like to get all dressed up and have just hundreds and dozens of people just scream and yell at me and throw soda cans at me that sounds like a great way to spend my Sunday afternoon no police officer likes going into rides they are incredibly irritating annoying and they are police officers get injured a lot in these cases I mean you get your bottles of urine thrown at you and rocks it it's a terrible thing no cop wants to do it but police officers have to go and the same police the same politicians who are sending them into these situations where they know that the cops are going to be outnumbered and it's dangerous then on the back end they are settling lawsuits with rioters and people who are being violent towards police officers so I just have a question so the 2 000 police officers who were injured not just physically but also psychologically from being in these violent and dynamic situations who can they list as a defendant in their in their personal injury lawsuit so if you know definitely go ahead and put it in the chat let us know who these police officers can sue for millions of dollars for being in this situation um so again so politicians send police officers to respond to a riot they're outnumbered politicians and backstab uh police police and they settle these lawsuits um you know essentially these people come into town and whenever there's a riot and they treat it like an antifa Fantasy Camp you know because these people a lot of them aren't even from there just looking for a place a playground to just right into just really just just expose chaos everywhere that they possibly can so in specific to these lawsuits New York Police Department just settled a six million dollar lawsuit um for 320 people who were riding um in in claim that there was excessive force used against them and so each individual is going to get approximately 21 000 the city of Philadelphia just settled a 9.25 million dollar lawsuit for 350 people and so at least with the New York City lawsuit that essentially everyone who is involved every every plaintiff who was involved in that case they're all going to get about twenty one thousand dollars but the Philadelphia lawsuit well they're not going to do that so the 9 million 9.25 million dollars well that's essentially going to be divvied up basically based on your victimhood status um again I just want to say that you know when it comes to the booking lists of the people who are arrested during these proceeds um uh you know there's basically a geographic tour of of the United United States so a lot just like there were protests and riots a cop sitting in in Atlanta I think there were 23 people who were arrested only like four of them were from Atlanta these crazy people just coming from all out of town because they see an opportunity to riots and that's what they're going to do it's absolutely infuriating all right let's see what kind of comments we have about this uh Sergeant George says that 2000 was a rough year it was a rough year uh let's see um any other comments questions about this um sounds like Linda is going back and forth with people hey I think everybody has good intentions there so um I didn't mind explaining it a little bit a little bit um um a little bit further Brian W says officers should sue the cities as well uh for undergoing uh uh for under equipping us and throwing us out there uh with [ __ ] Rules of Engagement Brian W I agree and listen Brian W here's what I think is even more infuriating about this so let's take what's going on in Austin Texas so so during these riots Austin Texas you know hundreds of people they basically took over this bridge okay pull it and here's the again here's the thing police officers there's not independent action it's not like police officers are on patrolling like hey you know what there's a bunch of [ __ ] who are on this bridge let's go [ __ ] them up let's go really see what we can do no police leaders who are basically told what to do by politicians are saying hey the protesters have taken over this bridge the rioters have taken over this bridge go and handle it and then the police officers have to go again it's not individual police officers deciding that they're bored and they have nothing better to do on a Sunday evening that they want to just come into work and throw on their riot gear no they're told to go there so they're told to go there they're outnumbered and basically when police officers are attacked they're given certain weapons by the police department and usually when what happens is the supervisor who authorizes different levels of force when different things happen so I think there are over 20 police officers in Austin who are being charged right now for using um a less lethal Munitions against a horde of hundreds of people who were taking over a bridge again police officers were told to go there and handle the situation if the politicians and the government if they don't want police officers to handle the situation if they want to let these individuals take over the bridge listen I'm good with that you were elected run this city however you want my problem is and Brian W probably agrees my problem is that when you tell police officers to go in there and then expect unrealistic outcomes when you put police officers outnumbered against hordes of violent Maniacs let's see um okay d-dog and Linda are still going back and forth again I don't think anyone had bad intentions there I didn't mind explaining it I think that was my fault there um anyway so yeah so that's what's going on with these settlements it's absolutely frustrating and you know when it comes to settlements and I did and I did talk about this last week that you know the settlements are going in the other direction too that you know there were 12 different businesses and investors um in the Seattle area who were directly affected by chop Chas whatever you want to call that horrible place you know for three weeks you know basically these Maniacs up and it's set up an in autonomous Zone um you know a three block area or I think it's an eight block area for for three weeks where no one was allowed to go and obviously people who lived there were in businesses were essentially held hostage by these Maniacs because police officers in the city wasn't dealing with it so um there was a lawsuit that was settled for multi-million dollars um as well I think it was I think it was around you know five or six hundred thousand thousand dollars um for um those businesses as well so there are some losses going you know in the direction of of you know what we would consider reasonable Brian W oh yeah they bean bag someone uh if the bean bag I remembered that correctly yes Brian they Bean bagged someone and people um did sustain injuries the thing about the thing about the bean bags the bean bag shotguns and what I remember from the Austin cases is so the bean bags did cause more injury no one died but they did cause more injuries in this case than typically you would expect a bean bag shotgun because it's a less lethal Force option did cause more injury and my understanding in reading the story is that the actual Munitions the bean bags themselves that that they were old or defective there was something wrong with them well that's not the police officer's fault the police officers don't come to work with their own bean bags and pass them out in briefing or anything like that no they are given this equipment by the Austin Police Department to utilize if the equipment isn't perfect it's not the fault of the individual police officer that certainly isn't Criminal from the individual police officer to me that sounds like a civil lawsuit that would affect something with the the people who are higher up in the city who are in charge of that not the police officers who are actually who are on scene just using the tools they are given by the city yes so a lot of the so there's going to be more of these lawsuits that are set that are settled to me I'm going to be honest to me it it it's pretty it's pretty infuriating and again I don't want police officers to use excessive force I don't want police officers to violate anyone's civil rights but I also don't want cities to be burned To The Ground by Maniacs I don't want police cars set on fire I don't want looting I don't want entire cities you have people you have good people in communities who have worked for years to just establish a good place to live and to work and to raise kids and families and you have people coming in who aren't even from the community who are just for no reason at all just coming in and destroying that that is infuriating and police officers are that line between Order and Chaos and when governments and cities give in to these Maniacs after the fact and settle these lawsuits I keep using the word infuriating because that is what it is Sergeant George says uh 2020 was definitely a purge season it was uh let's see Brian W having to use four sucks comply comply comply please yeah Brian W I agree 100 that's something that I say all the time no police officer wants to use force and yes individuals should just comply with police what I mean by that is if you have a hammer and you are breaking out windows to a local Wendy store and a police officer tells you to stop I'm saying stop no maybe you think that's a violation of your civil rights that you have a right to smash in and burn down that Wendy's restaurant because because you're mad about that the police did something thousand miles away but I would just say you know a police officer asks you to stop being a maniac stop being a violent Maniac all right next case I'm going to talk about this is a scary case and the police officers I'm going to talk about here it's the last two stories I'm going to do and you know what I like to do on this channel almost more than anything is to kind of highlight something the police officers did good and police officers did bad it's kind of like the the Ben Shapiro show where he talks about good Trump bad Trump you know um so I'm gonna talk about a case where the police officers did something you know pretty good and competent and the last case I'm going to go over yeah it's not a good thing for police officers and we absolutely have to call out if we're going to highlight good policing when police officers do good things then yeah if we're going to be honest about this which we are because that's what important then we're also going to talk about cases where police officers really [ __ ] up all right so um uh let's see um d-dog agreed how do you get people to see the side of the police officer so d-dog you know what that's a really the officer's perspective I mean you know d-dog that's that's a really good question and before I get into these last two cases I'm going to answer that question so um I think in my small way what I try to do is I try to have honest conversations with people about controversial issues and policing that's my main thing so I started to do social media content uh probably about a year and a half ago or so I started on Tick Tock that kind of took off I think I have 138 000 followers I write articles on sub Stacks that are shared all all over the place and you know the reason why I like to do that isn't because I'm trying to bridge the gap between citizens and normal people and police officers and try to bridge a gap so a lot of people who do this kind of content that's their thing as they say and there's nothing wrong with that that's a great Avenue if that's what you want to do that's not what I'm trying to do that's not my purpose my purpose is to really have honest conversations about complex about complex topics and about things that are just hard to talk about so sometimes a police officer does something good let's say it let's say a police officer does something bad well let's say that too and then let's go a little bit deeper let's figure out why did that why did that happen was it just a bad police officer or was there some bad training is there some weird policies or some strange law and let's really dig down deep and see exactly why some of these things are happening because again the goal at least my goal is I want there to be less violence between police and citizens that's what I want so I want to have honest conversations about these things and hopefully these honest conversations and asking these hard questions d-dog hopefully that'll get to people to be able to see the officer's perspective and almost more importantly I want police officers and people in law enforcement to be able to see the perspective on the other side as well a lot of times I don't have that perspective so that's why I like to have conversations and debates and discussions with people who I don't agree with I would much rather have a conversation with someone who I don't agree with because I want to see as long as they're honest you know if people are coming at me and dishonest fashion they're saying all police are racist well you can't have a conversation with those people but you can have honest conversations with people if the goal and the incentive is to get to the very truth so that's what I try to do D dog I think if you see a piece of content no matter where it is that you think is honest about what police officers did whether it's good or bad share it especially on social media share that content comment on it and all the good and honest content that you see out there that shows a police officer's perspective what I would say is just share it and get it out there as much as you can let's see Sergeant George moments like this is exactly why even though I already mentioned it somewhere before that if police officers should be equipped with body cameras uh same can be said for members of the community yeah um every everybody has I mean everybody has has a cell phone so um you know there's essentially everyone has a body camera because everyone has a cell phone everything you do is pretty much on tape okay now to get to the case where I think police officers did a good job and this is a scary case so this happened in Nashville Tennessee so here's what happened Nash Tennessee in the last couple days this was an absolutely crazy thing there was surveillance video of an individual 45 year old guy just kind of hanging out doing his thing at a laundromat an individual walks into the laundry mat and he's holding like like a stick it looks like like a baton it looks like a baton kind of a weapon and what he does with that weapon without without warning without any kind of a dispute between in between the two individuals you know they're not arguing about like quarter or quarters or change machine or using too much laundry detergents I mean essentially this guy walked into the laundromat with this baton and without warning he just starts bashing this guy in the head with a baton I'm severely injured him for almost no reason the offender flees the scene he wasn't taken into custody that's a pretty scary thing so what the Nashville Tennessee Police Department did almost immediately as soon as this happened because again it seems like it's a random attack not that it's it's better if it's targeted but it's been you know this from like from the Idaho murders like if if it's a husband and a wife or if it's a boyfriend and a girlfriend or if there's some connection between the victim and the offender that doesn't make it any better for the victim or the victim's family but at least the community can say okay there's probably not a danger to the community this guy just wanted to kill his wife this girl just wanted to kill her boyfriend you know the community in general probably isn't in danger the idea of just a violent psychopath running around out there hitting random people in the head that's pretty scary because anybody could be a victim so as soon as this happened Nashville Tennessee Police Department did a good job they got the video the officers and the detectives arriving saying realize hey this looks like it's random this this really could be an issue for the entire Community almost immediately they put out they put out an alert to the to the entire city about what happened and that more almost more importantly than the alertness they put out the surveillance camera video they worked with a private company they got the surveillance camera video and the media helped them out and they got it out to everyone in the Nashville area within eight hours they had an offender in custody his name is Kadri Renfrow he is a a 32 year old man named kadi k-h-a-d-r-e I don't know Renfro they got him into custody once he was in custody this actually wasn't the first time this happened in the Nashville area um in the middle of March so last week or so there were two other random beatings that happened in similar fashion um where individuals were basically just beaten with like a baton for no reason so they were able to connect him to those three different things so he's actually um charged with three counts of attempted criminal homicide um and you know when things like this happen it's really not just the police who did a good job getting someone into custody pretty quickly but it's also it's also a partnership with the private company who not only had that Not only was had the idea and just they had the surveillance video but gave it to police officers quick it's not like they said hey you know we're we have to check with uh we have to check with corporate we'll get back to you here in the next 48 hours and you'll you'll hear from our lawyers about the video no this business got the police office officers the video quick police officers then immediately got to the media the media the local media independent journalists they got it out quick and they got using that information and Community tips they got this guy in custody within eight hours of the crime occurring which is a good thing for everyone in the community so at least after that case of the laundry mat no one else was injured as far as we know and they were able to connect this individual to two other similar crimes again he's charged with uh three different uh three different attempted criminal homicides uh let's see uh oh D dog really good thank you so much d-dog Sergeant George this is a terrifying as a Zodiac Killer if not more so no it absolutely is these random crimes um it's absolutely terrifying uh let's see um Linda Brandon says awesome work nice work pity yeah that is good work by the police department also good work from the it's also great to have it's things like this again it's the Partnerships and this is why when I talk about community policing which I do sometimes you know the community policing what's important is the relationships that the police department can have with private business and with the media so the the media should ask police departments tough questions you know there should be kind of an adversarial relationship a lot of the times because it is the job of the journalist to really get to the truth of what happened and sometimes that makes police departments uncomfortable and that's fine they should be especially if something controversial happened but when it comes down to it when someone is in need when the police officers need to arrest someone being able to have that relationship with the local journalist to put everything else aside and to just get this out in front and center that it's an unbelievable partnership and that's important for communities to have uh let's see uh d-dog I was surprised to learn that Nashville is is actually kind of a slum yeah Nashville Tennessee um Tennessee is a pretty violent State I think Memphis is uh Memphis is is higher but yeah Nashville um uh Nash Vegas is definitely a uh uh of violent a violent city um okay so the last case that I'm going to talk about and this is an update from a case that I mentioned uh I want to say two weeks ago and um uh Brian W says truth in journalism what is that well there is no truth in journalism but when they get out um important surveillance video to help police officers out I appreciate it but yeah aside besides uh cops and cons TV uh there isn't a whole lot of Truth in journalism at all all right uh so this last case that I'll talk about and this is not good for a police officer so that makes it even more important that we have to talk about I mentioned this case a couple weeks ago and at the time that I mentioned it um it was the the D.A let me get to the case in a minute but at the time the D.A said that they actually weren't going to release any surveillance camera video about this case until after trial um it's I like surveillance camera body camera footage to essentially get out to the public as quickly as possible so we all know what happened again body camera surveillance video it's not perfect it doesn't show what the police officers I saw but it gives us a sense of what happened so this is the case of irvo irvo otenio in Virginia this happened on March 6th um so I think you remember the individual who he had mental health issues a long criminal history but believe he was schizophrenic off his meds the family just has gone in the media said that they've tried to do everything they could but you know he's an individual with schizophrenia he's off his meds long criminal history he was um there was a burglary that he was involved in he was arrested by police officers during the arrest he assaulted police officers um he was taken to jail once in jail um the the the the the the deputies in the jail or I'm not sure if it was one of the doctors or the deputies or the jail staff they essentially determined that after a couple days in jail that he needed more help than the jail was able to give him which is a good decision so they wanted to take Mr otenio to a mental health Psychiatric Hospital which again that's a good decision that's where he should be that's pretty much the last good decision that anyone in law enforcement made in this particular case um so what happened was is in order to get him into custody um the the jail staff I mean it took like 11 or so people um of the jail staff in order to get him into custody now he's a big guy he's a big guy he's over six feet tall I think he weighs 270 280 pounds so the idea that it's going to take a lot of people in order to get him into custody to transport him to the psychiatric hospital like that's that's reasonable we know it's going to take a lot of people to do that that always looks bad that always looks ugly but you know there really isn't any way around it especially if someone is uncooperative and yeah he was uncooperative so they finally get him into custody again it looks bad but it takes a whole bunch of them to get him into custody that's not where I have the issue with though because we know that's going to happen when you're that big and that uncooperative they get him in the van they transport him to a psychiatric hospital which is about 50 miles away once they get hit once they get there um there are seven deputies with the sheriff's department and there are three different hospital workers who are essentially in the little area where there's an intake room now at this time Mr otenio he has handcuffs on and he has leg Shackles on well he starts to resist and he starts to resist with the hospital staff and with the police officers essentially he's pushed onto the ground and for approximately 11 minutes not all seven of the deputies but you know five or so of the deputies there are he's on the ground he's on his stomach and we all know what happens um the police officers are kind of pushing on his back on his neck on his lower back and you know after 11 minutes of this um he dies um asphyxiation was the cause of death so what happened is that the D.A has charged seven deputies and three Hospital workers with second-degree murder they're they're all going to be charged and the reason why I'm bringing this case back up today is because again initially the district attorney said well because this is an ongoing investigation it's a criminal case we're going to have jurors we have 10 people charged we're not going to release any of the video because it's part of the case well the D.A um decided that they were going to reverse that they did release a surveillance camera video both of what happened and at the jail of getting him into custody which again I don't really have an issue with um and then what happened at the hospital at the psychiatric hospital where the where were the deputies and the hospital staff were putting pressure on his back while he was face down now um this is absolutely unacceptable and and what I'm going to say about this is that when someone is uncooperative and police officers have to use force that always looks bad that always looks ugly even if it's lawful reasonable Justified within training within policy even if we can check all those boxes and say the cops couldn't have done anything else I guess it's ugly it looks bad use of force never looks good but this was literally within the bounds of what a reasonable officer would do so I get that that happens what's not acceptable is keeping an individual on their stomach no matter how bad they are kicking they are thrashing keeping an individual on their stomach putting pressure on their neck on their upper back or lower back for an extended period of time we know that that kills people some of the time so I know that when I went through the police academy in 2005 I don't remember a whole lot from that time because it was pretty stressful but I remember getting tased I remember getting maced what I don't remember is anyone talking about a positional as asphyxiation I don't remember anyone talking about you know not putting pressure on someone's back I don't remember that number maybe it was part of the training but I don't remember it but certainly since then there have been in-service trainings and we have gotten all kinds of training about when you have someone like this even if they're resisting as soon as you can get them on their side get them on their side get them to sit up that the position where someone is face down on their stomach and you put pressure on their back that is a recipe for disaster so this is something that in 2023 there is literally no excuse for I can't remember when my when my the police department I was with I can't remember when we went through training but it's certainly been within the last 10 years we all saw what happened in the George Floyd case we all saw what happened in the Tony Timber case there are other cases out there that are similar to this that you know I'm sure that if we look we Google it there's going to be 20 of these cases that are there but those are the two main ones so we know this happens how they're how seven different police officers and three medical staff thought that this was okay to keep them in that position for 11 minutes is absolutely crazy to me and I'm not trying to Monday more Monday Morning Quarterback these police officers were putting yourself into what would a reasonable police officer do what would a reasonable Hospital worker do again if he's in the intake room and he's kicking and he's thrashing let's say you have two different options either all of us are going to put him on his stomach and put all of our weight hundreds of pounds on his back for 11 minutes or you know what he's in a room he's by himself we're all gonna leave and let him cool out and even if he wants to kick and thrash around the room who gives a [ __ ] right he's not in the position where he's going to hurt anyone else except himself if you have an option of those two options police officers corrections officer out there please always take the option where you leave the person by themselves in a room and if they destroy some County property who gives a [ __ ] this is the last thing that police officers should do is absolutely insane I think it's reasonable that some of them are charged now now am I going to say that all of them should be charged well no or I mean so I it there there's a anyone here correct me if you think I'm incorrect there's a difference between being the police officer who is or the deputy or the the hospital worker who is literally putting pressure on someone's upper back for nine and a half minutes there's a difference between that dude and someone else who's in the room but standing off to the side watching it happen now doesn't mean that the individual who's standing in the room and seeing it happen and not stopping it does that mean they did nothing wrong no no they probably did something wrong but the level of should they be charged with the same crime second-degree murder no um so I think we're gonna see that in this case where we're going to be able to say okay these four or five people yeah they probably should be charged with second-degree murder and these three or four people yeah okay yeah I get where they where they they should have stopped it but it's not it's not the same thing I have a feeling that's what's going to happen in this case when we when you look at the video and please everyone go check out the video but that's what I think happened in this case um but again it doesn't seem like even the ones who weren't doing it they weren't really making an effort to stop what was going on so that is problematic that's probably criminal second-degree murder not not sure about that but um uh the specific charges that's really just getting into the wheeze and into semantics on this case I'll be honest I'm far less concerned with the specific charges against the police officers I'm far more horrified about what actually happened all right um so those are the cases that we're going to go on today uh let's see uh if we have any questions here before we take off Brian W says great stream hope to catch the next one stay safe brothers and sisters well thank you so much uh darkstorm tasers don't tasers work on 280 pound people Dark Storm that's a great question thank you so much for asking yes they do they should have utilized the taser before they did what they did uh d-dog how many people tell officers they can't breathe in order to get a second chance to escape a lot a lot doody dog uh that would be the only justification of not moving off of him yeah no I think that absolutely happens um especially after the George Floyd case where a lot of people say I can't breathe even when they can however since everything is on video um if someone says um uh if someone says they can't breathe um believe them at least roll them over to their side because this is worst case scenario and yes incarceritis is a serious condition that normally affects felons and people who have committed violent sexual assaults but always like I said in case something happens um it would not only do should police officers want to preserve life but you also don't want to be charged with a crime so if someone says they can't breathe believe them roll them on their side do what you can as soon as possible even if last thing even if you have to keep them on their stomach for 30 seconds 45 seconds a minute while you're trying to get them into custody into handcuffs I get it there's no justification for 11 minutes and he was handcuffed and leg Shackled the entire time all right that's going to be our show today thank you so much I hope everyone has a great weekend please go ahead and share the channel subscribe to our Channel and if you want to go ahead and follow me you can go do that on at police law news pretty much everywhere I hope everybody has a great weekend thank you so much
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