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good afternoon this is Daniel here with
Copwatch TV just want to welcome
everyone into our live show where we're
going to discuss and break down some of
the most important and interesting
issues and cases in policing we've got
three really interesting and
controversial police cases from the last
week that we're going to go over we're
going to talk about and one of the most
important things is not only we're going
to talk about these cases and really get
everyone informed of what's going on in
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well we welcome everybody into the show
you know what we're GNA do we're gon to
get into this first case so the first
case that we're going to talk about and
this is an extremely controversial case
and and it's we'll see what happens if
the officer is going to be prosecuted or
not but as I'm going through this case
I'm really interested to see what you
guys think so definitely put it in the
chat if you think the officer should be
prosecuted or if you think this was a
lawful reasonable Justified officer
involved shooting so this goes back to
September 29th of this past year in
decar Alabama so this was a a really
strange case and you know really the
main issue because a lot of these cases
have issues you know have themes to them
so the main issue like the main question
about this officer involved shooting
that I want you to think about and again
definitely put in your opinion is do
police officers have to give verbal
warnings before they use force or before
they utilize deadly force all right so
this was a case that happened over in
over in uh decar Alabama uh there was an
individual named Stephen Perkins step
Perkins is a 39-year-old man he was home
this started with essentially a
repossession of a vehicle so there was
an individual who works for a Repel
company and he wanted to or he had an
order he's saying he had an order to
repossess a vehicle that was owned by Mr
Perkins so the tow truck driver so the
repo guy who's in the tow truck he he
this is his story he goes over to Mr
Perkins home and he tries to repossess
the vehicle during that transaction of
trying to repossess the vehicle he's
confronted by Mr Perkins and he claims
and I quote that Mr Perkins flashed a
gun at him at that point the repo guy
said that he left he left he left the
area and he went and he called for
police officers and he explained what
happened so now the way this was
explained to police officers is just
that that he was he was trying to do a
repo um and during that he was
confronted by Mr Perkins and then Mr
Perkins um had a gun so now we have a
couple things happening now police
officers are going to go make contact
with Mr Perkins or at least go on scene
and really at most they could be
investigating an aggravated assault with
a deadly weapon now just because someone
flashes a gun or shows a gun or is armed
with you can imagine a situation where
someone is armed with a gun maybe it's
in a holster but you know it's never
pointed or any or threatened or anything
like that but any either way the police
officers work called so they do have to
respond so what the police say in this
case is that they they get to the scene
and they start to set up a perimeter
around the house which isn't an
unreasonable thing and I'll talk about
some of the tactics later cuz I
definitely have some questions about
these tactics but what they said is that
what they said is that as they were
making contact or as they were setting
up a perimeter one of the officers was
in the front yard and as the officer was
in the front yard Mr Perkins walks out
of his home out of the front door of his
house and he makes contact with the
police officers now Mr Perkins was armed
with a handgun this time he was holding
the handgun there's also a light that
was mounted on the handgun and that's
going to come out for something pretty
relevant or really important issue later
on but Mr Perkins was armed with a
handgun what Mr Perkins did according to
the police officers is that as the Poli
as he approached the police officers one
of the officer started to yell get on
the ground it was at that point that Mr
Perkins raised the handgun and he
pointed the handgun at the police
officer multiple police officers at that
point then fired their weapons so the
body camera footage of this in incident
hasn't been released yet it's
essentially with the main investigating
agency um in Alabama they have control
of the body camera video not local
police and it's going to be up to them
um when and if they decide to release
that video my guess is that that agency
is going to conduct their investigation
determine whether or not the police
officer is going to be charged with a
crime and then after that when they come
to a decision on that it's at that point
that the body camera footage will be
released but what we do have is
surveillance footage so we do have
surveillance footage with uh we do have
surveillance footage with audio um that
essentially across the street with which
isn't as good as body camera but it
really captures um pretty much what
happened so what the body what the
surveillance video shows it shows Mr
Perkins exit the house it shows that he
has something in his hand there's a
light mounted on it police say it was it
was a a gun with a light mounted on it
he approaches the police officers the
police officer starts to say get on the
ground and pretty much just as the
officer says the word ground that's when
the police officers start to fire so so
so Mr Perkins um is is does sustain
fatal injuries now so the main issue in
this case is what so one of the the
attorney the Civil Rights attorney that
was hired by the Perkins Family is a man
named Lee Merritt now Lee Merritt is the
best way I can describe him he's a more
dangerous but more honest version of Ben
Crump and here's why I say that so he
was retained by the family and he's done
a whole bunch of media on this stuff the
kind of media that he's done is he
essentially there's been protests and
not riots but all kinds of protests in
Alabama since this happened and one of
the things that Lee Meritt said to a
large crowd he was televised but he also
said to a large crowd in person one of
the things that Lee Merritt said and I
quote he said that if you don't like
what happened to Mr Perkins you have to
burn something down that's what he said
you have to burn something down so here
we have a licensed attorney telling
aloud and upset whether it's Justified
or not for them to be upset a loud crowd
that they have to go out in the streets
and burn something down I mean that's
absolutely incredible and here's the
thing about this can you imagine if if
an attorney or uh who represents police
officers or a police police Union
official if someone who represented
police officers went out in the public
and told a group of of of of police
officers that they had to burn something
down it would pretty much be national
news but when I did a story about this
over on my channel police law news
earlier this week everybody was
commenting that they hadn't heard this
before and it's just crazy to me and
this really shows the bias of the media
because what the what the mainstream
media does is the mainstream media will
provide cover cover for anti- police
activists who say these crazy things
again here we have a controversial
shooting a licensed attorney telling a
group of people to burn something down
and no one knows about it again if it
were if it were someone who was Pro
police or or a representative for police
officers you know this would be national
news it would be at every single News
Channel so um you know basically you
know so let's what else is the attorney
Lee Merritt saying so he essentially he
isn't disputing that Mr Perkins is armed
with a gun he isn't even disputing that
Mr Perkins pointed a gun at the police
officer before he was K killed what Mr
Merritt's Lee Meritt the attorney what
his issue is in this case is that the
police officer in his opinion didn't
give Mr Perkins enough time to comply
with the orders before deadly force was
utilized so that's what the question is
that's the question right the question
is do police officers have to give
verbal warnings before deadly force is
you is is is is used that's that's
really the basic question here do police
officers have to give warning and your
basically you know what the law what the
courts what everyone says and this is
mimicked in most police department
policies so usually so this police dep
Department policy is pretty much based
on Law and typically what it says that
police officers have to give warnings
before use of force certainly before
deadly force if feasible we mean that if
feasible here's what I mean by that if
someone if you pull up on a traffic stop
and as you get to the traffic stop as
soon as you walk up to the driver the
driver has a gun pointing at your head
no one would expect a police officer to
have to give two three four warnings
what do you have to wait 2 seconds 10
seconds how long does a police officer
have to stand there with a gun pointing
at them before they can respond well the
thing is that police officers are
allowed to respond to immediate deadly
threats police officers I'm I'm
not this is the way it works is police
officers will respond to immediate
deadly threats with deadly force that
that isn't something I'm guessing that
that's a reality that is in fact a
predictor of future police Behavior the
police officers will utilize deadly
force when confronted with an immediate
deadly threat so in this case again even
the civil rights attorney who's telling
people to burn something down even he is
not disputing that Mr Perkins was armed
with a gun and pointed a gun at a police
officer so basically the reason why not
only is the comment of telling
protesters to burn something down is
extremely dangerous whyly mered is
dangerous is because he's trying to
change the Paradigm of what police
officers are expected to do so think
about what he's saying he's saying that
yes I acknowledge the police officer had
a gun pointed at him but we want that
police officer to wait that police
officer has to wait give a bunch of
commands and you know just see if the
person complies I mean of course if the
person doesn't comply that means that
they're shooting rounds at the police
officer which is absolutely insane again
it used to be it used to be where
attorneys who represent these families
or or you know so-called victims would
say things like well you know if he
wasn't armed with a gun if he wasn't
pointing the gun now again now we've now
we've gone so far not it's not that yes
had a gun he was pointing the gun now we
want to go a step further and expect
police officers to not utilize Force
deadly force when a gun is pointed at
them to me that is absolutely insane
anyways so that is that is that case um
we'll we'll we'll see we'll we'll we'll
see what happens um one thing I like to
say is is is you know sometimes there
are good and reasonable politicians out
there and the mayor of Decor um I think
it was really good the guy's name is tab
bowling he's the mayor of deor Alabama
um he did an interview after this so he
was basically shown the footage and he
saw the footage he's the mayor of the
town of Lee Meritt basically coming into
town and telling people to burn
something down and he responded you know
a lot of times Mayors or politicians
they stay out of this kind of stuff but
this small town mayor this guy tab
bowling he didn't shy away from it he
did an interview and it's it's it's
actually incredible where he basically
he called out this money grabbing grift
for exactly what it was he said you know
that if you have a problem with what the
police officers did burning something
down in the city in the town like is
that not the way to respond to this that
this case is being investigated and that
there's probable cause that a police
officer committed a crime that that
police officer is going to be prosecuted
the mayor then went on to say he he
basically called out Lee Merritt and he
said you know Mr Merritt isn't from
decar Alabama he lives in Texas so what
he does is he basically comes in here he
causes destruction and he doesn't have
to live with with the aftermath he
doesn't he doesn't have to deal with the
people who own the homes and the
business in the area that are going to
be vandalized and destroyed and Tad Bowl
ing the mayor he said after this is over
that Lee Meritt he's going to move on to
the next town where there's money and
that's all this is is the grab for money
I thought that was a great thing let's
see if we have any comments about this
case see what anybody thinks and really
like I said the main issue is do police
officers have to give warnings um again
this is a case where you know police
officer didn't give a warning because a
gun was pointed directly at them you
know there really isn't um you know
there really isn't anything um for for
the police officer to do in my opinion
um in my opinion was a lawful reasonable
Justified officer involved shooting now
um I I me this isn't like Barney F be
being a police officer anymore if a gun
is pointed at you police officers have
to take that seriously like they just
they they just absolutely do so we'll
see if police officers going to be
charged my guess is that the the the is
that the police officer is not going to
be um that the police officer is not
going to be charged um in this
particular case um but you know we'll
we'll we'll see you know this is a
national the national case and and like
I said police officers are not paid to
be you know to win first place in in the
in the in the the gun drawing contest
you know that's not what police officers
are paid for or trained to be but police
officers do want to go home at the end
of the night to their families and that
that's a reasonable thing to want to do
so um again when a gun is pointed at you
your life may only have seconds left to
it the time to deescalate has passed all
right so the next next case that that
that we're going to talk about is a case
where a police officer has actually been
charge you know what I just posted this
story um earlier today I did a short one
on Tik Tok and my Instagram on this
earlier today and I got a lot of
comments um a lot of views already on it
so it's something that people feel
pretty passionately about one way or
another and I'm going to be honest I'm
biased in this case and here's my bias
just like the last case had a theme
about should police officers do police
officers have to give warnings this case
is all about tasers and I've talked
about tasers before because it's the
it's probably my favorite intermediate
weapon system but this case is about
tasers and and again I'm biased and here
here's why I'm biased I'm going to say
this even before we get into it here's
my bias and again tell me in the chat if
you think I'm wrong or if you think it's
incorrect in any way my bias is I would
rather have police officers utilize
tasers a little bit too early than have
to wait and have to use deadly force
later on to me using a taser getting
someone into custody and afterwards they
aren't injured to me that's my
preferable outcome than not using a
taser having a situation get even worse
than police officers having to use dead
forced later on so that's that's what I
don't want I think the tasers are a
great way to do that so basically this
happened October 14th and I'm not going
to say this town right it's a town in
Connecticut nagat nagat Connecticut is
where this happened um this happened on
October 14th so here's what happened so
there's a career criminal named Jerel
day now jel day went into a store I
think it's called like a r Aid store and
he stole six cases of beer um six cases
of beer equal about $200 so it must not
have been Bud Light or anything like
that or El it would have been way
cheaper but six cases of beer equal
about $200 um obviously the store went
ahead and called for police officers
with officer keios with the Kos officer
kios with the nagat talk uh Connecticut
Police Department he arrived on scene
with a partner when he arrived on scene
he found Mr day the offender in a
vehicle just as he arrived on scene you
he approached the vehicle he gave
commands in order for Mr day to exit now
of course at this point the police
officers did have Reasonable Suspicion
and probable cause to arrest there's
nothing wrong with that so
however Mr day he didn't want to be held
responsible for his criminal action so
what he did is he drove away as he drove
away from the scene he crashed into two
different police cars as he drove away
so he drove away police officers gave
chase at some point not long later Mr
day was driving like an idiot and he
crashed his car after he crashed his car
he got out on foot and he started to run
police officers were right there and
officer keios did engage in a foot
pursuit after Mr day he was able to
catch him in this open field now as Mr
as officer ke approached Mr day he gave
him commands to get on the ground now Mr
day he didn't listen it was at that
point um officer kiw took out a taser he
yelled Taser Taser Taser he fired the
taser the taser worked Mr K Mr day went
to the ground once he was on the ground
officer keios told him gave him he kind
of landed on his back so he's laying on
his back right and that's not what
police officers want police officers and
because the goal is to get someone into
into handcuffs and under arrest so what
officer kiw told him to do is to get on
your stomach officer kiw gave him
several different commands to get on his
stomach and Mr day wasn't doing it he
was just laying there kind of staring at
the officer it seemed like he was trying
to size the officer up like can I take
this guy well again that that's just my
guessing what Mr day is thinking but
what I'm not guessing about is the fact
that Mr day did not follow the
instructions of the police officer and
he refused to roll over on his side and
the police officer told him hey if you
don't roll over on your stomach you're
going to get tased again uh you know uh
in a predictable fashion um once he
didn't follow this after after several
commands didn't follow him officer kios
used the taser again after he used the
taser again he did gain compliance at
least in that section of what happened
because Mr day then did roll over on his
stomach so now Mr day is on his stomach
now what's the next thing a police
officer wants to do we do this step by
step the police officer wants Mr Day's
hands to get behind his back so he can
place him in the Handcuff so the officer
again very reasonably says put your
hands behind your back Mr day doesn't do
it and at that point the officer doesn't
utilize the taser again he doesn't use a
Taser even though he gives him multiple
commands to put his hands behind his
back the officer holsters the taser and
then kind of goes on top of Mr day and
then physically tries to grab his hands
and put his hands behind and you can see
on the body camera footage that Mr Day's
hand start to go behind his back and
then he pulls it back towards the front
of him so that's actively resisting
arrest right it was at that point the
officer gives him another warning of a
taser again we talked about warnings for
use of force this guy's gotten more
warnings than anybody I've seen in a
long time he gives Mr yday another
warning and he said hey put your hands
behind your back if you don't comply I'm
going to tase you again he said you're
going to get another ride I'm going to
tase you again so it was at that point
that you know he still didn't put his
hands behind his back the officer
redraws out the taser again look's look
at the intent from the officer the
officer had holstered the taser it's
holstered he's not planning to use it
anymore he went hands on to try to
handcuff and even but he had to go back
to it so he gave a warning and he still
Mr day still didn't follow it so then he
gave him a drive stunt so what a drive
stun is is is basically instead of using
so when you're you know four five 10
feet away or so when you shoot the taser
um and the prongs come out that's called
um uh uh that's that's um uh that's uh I
can't remember the name of what that's
called that's crazy I used to be taser
instructor um standoff mode so that's
standoff mode right and then when you
basically you take the the the the
actual taser device and you use it you
know for lack of B more like a stun gun
you put it directly to the person that's
more like uh that's called the drive
stun drive so the officer then did a
drive stun on Mr day um after that um Mr
day did cooperate got his hands behind
his back well again like I'm not I'm not
making up what happened or or or
exaggerating or embellishing because the
body camera footage is out there you can
watch this body camera footage of
exactly what happened um the officer was
able to get him up to his feet walked
him to the car and um that that
individual Mr day he's charged with
robbery interfering with an officer
Reckless driving and resisting arrest
the officer officer keios has been
charged with assault he's been charged
with third degree assault in his in this
case now the chief of police of of
nagataa Connecticut did an interview and
he basically said that the the use of
force the use of the taser was
problematic and the reason he gave he
said because Mr day was passively
resisting arrest and we have a policy
again policy is not law but we have a
policy that says you know you can't tase
someone who's passively resisting
arrests now we can have that
conversation about whether or not that's
a good policy but I guess my question is
is is you have passive resistance and
active resistance so so my question is
if this guy is passively resisting what
in the world is the definition of
passive resistance for this Police
Department okay so let me just go
through a couple things real quick and
just say how like I said we can argue
whether or not the officer should have
used the taser or a different weapon
system let's have that con ation but to
just be so dishonest and say that Mr day
was not actively resisting is absolutely
insane so here's what I mean by that so
Mr day committed a crime then he ran
from police officers in a vehicle
including striking two police vehicles
he crashed then he ran on foot then the
police officer made contact with him he
ignored commands to get on the ground he
ignored commands to roll over onto his
stomach and then he ignored commands to
put his hands behind behind his back in
every instance the police officer gave
him a warning it's not like he surprised
I'm like ha surprised I'm going to tase
you the officer gave him a warning
multiple warnings before the taser was
used each time so that is absolutely
active resistance and here's where I can
point to typically now again police
departments can come up with any crazy
definitions they want but there are best
practices on this typically running from
intentionally not like so I'm I'm I'm a
trail Runner if I'm running down the
street or I'm running up in the mountain
like that that that's not just running
isn't actively resisting police but if
you commit a crime and you're running
away or driving away from police that is
considered active resistance actively
and intentionally trying to flee law
enforcement just that alone is often
considered Act of resistance and then
also what would be considered active
resistance is not following command so
if a police officer tells you to do
something and you don't do it that could
be considered active resistance but
maybe on the low end here's the here's
the biggest one of the biggest parts of
active resistance and again you can see
it on the body camera footage it's when
Mr day is on the ground he's on his
stomach and the police officer he has
his arms kind of in front of him you can
see the police officer grab his hand and
start moving the hand towards the body
you can see Mr day pull against the
police officer and pull his hand out of
the police officer's grasp that is
active resistance that is not
questionable that is 100% objective
active resistance passive resistance
here's the example of passive resistance
you see these idiots for like don't stop
oil or these environmental protesters
and they basically and they sit and they
block traffic and they just sit there
and a police officer comes up behind
them and they refuse to move and after
so much time the police officer one
officer grabs an arm the other officer
grabs another arm and they pick up the
person and they essentially act as dead
weight that's passive so yes so police
departments have policies to say hey if
someone is doing that just sitting there
being a jerk being an you know
not listening but literally just sitting
there being dead weight that's passive
that's passively resisting if you if I'm
just standing there doing nothing that's
passively resisting running from police
that's intentional that's active when a
police officer grabs your arm to put it
behind your back in accordance with a
lawful arrest and you pull your hand
away that is absolutely active
resistance it's not close so the idea
that the police officer is in any kind
of not only administrative trouble but
legal trouble for this taser use is
insane listen we've covered taser cases
before and there have been sometimes
with Taser tasing Cas that we've covered
where I've said you know what I don't
think that's a lawful use of the taser
here's typically what it is it's someone
it's like I remember their case can't
remember exactly where it was I think it
was in Indiana or Michigan or something
somewhere in the Midwest and the
individual had committed uh you know the
off the long story short the guy was
walking down the street um no officers
didn't have any kind of a crime that
they they thought he looked suspicious
um the officer asks him his name he
doesn't tell the officer's name and he
runs okay um as he's running away the
police officer chased behind him tases
him from behind and the guy flies and
smashes his face and ends up with like
um like like like severe facial injuries
and you know was in a coma and stuff
like that we did that case on here last
year and and I I I can't remember the
name of it but I can put it in the chat
later on and I said you know what I
don't think that was a good use or a
lawful use of the taser here's why and I
said one the lawful objective from the
police officer the police officer you
know there was no crime that was
suspected just being suspicious that's
not a misdemeanor that's not a felony in
order for police to lawfully detain
someone they need Reasonable Suspicion
of a crime that they can articulate what
that crime is okay so there was really
no lawful reason for the police officer
to detain the person um and then the
person ran and as the person's running
away again not running to try to attack
someone the police officer tases the guy
from behind so in that case the officer
was not prosecuted and I'm good F that's
fine but what I'm saying is like a case
like that where I go okay that's that's
there's no lawful objective and again
the guy is running away using a taser on
someone who's running away that is
extremely dangerous because we know
that's going to cause or likely to cause
like pretty serious injuries in a case
like this Mr day wasn't injured at all
wasn't injured at all there was a lawful
reason for the police officer to do it
and we can say exactly we can justify
the officer would be able to justify
every trigger pull I told him to get on
the ground he didn't tase he was I told
him multiple times to roll over to his
stomach he didn't tase I told him to put
his hands behind his back I then
holstered the taser and I physically
tried to move his hands behind his back
he fought against me Tas like all of
these are completely reasonable the
officer can all be justified the idea
that this cop is charged is absolutely
insane um hopefully the charges get
dismissed um but again this is a case
that I I just saw this in the past week
and it's it's absolutely crazy and if
you guys have any comments or anything
on this case I'd love to see it um
because this is um one of one of the
most egregious cases of a police officer
being charged with a crime that I've
seen again if a police officer has a use
of force that's questionable I'll tell
you I think it's questionable just like
in the in the example that I just gave
this was not questionable this was
absolutely 100% excessive now what I
will say is if you watch the body camera
video I even put this in a little video
that I did on Instagram and Tik Tok and
uh that that the officer does swear at
the guy okay he does so I'm going to say
I'm going to say it up front in case you
watch my video later on my other channel
or if you watch um the the body camera
footage that just by Googling this this
guy's name um the officer does swear at
them so I I say pretty much from the
beginning Hey listen I'm not a fan of
the language that the police officer
used but the use of force is absolutely
Justified I think I think you know as
the officer was getting him into custody
he says something to the fact like hey
dude you're a idiot you turned a
misdemeanor into a felony again I don't
love that language is it true yes you
have a misdemeanor shoplifting you turn
into a felony you know the logical
deduction from that it's only a
idiot would do that so yeah so what the
officer saying is true it's not really
professional though so and it's not a
great look especially during a use of
force um we should be able to separate
the the the not great language or maybe
even that's a violation of Department
policy the language like I'm I'm I'm
good with that right because it probably
is cops shouldn't talk like that unless
it's necessary but the use of force
totally separate 100% completely lawful
and reasonable all right the last case
that we're going to talk about and this
is H this is a scary case that um um out
of Springfield Illinois so I'm
originally from the Chicago land area um
Springfield is about uh two hours hour
and a half two and a half hours I don't
know something something like that to to
two two hours so from Chicago uh
Springfield's the capital of Illinois um
so essentially there was this happened
on October 24th so it this just happened
um on October 24th in Springfield
Illinois this is an Illinois state
trooper I went to Western Illinois
University for my undergrad majoring in
law enforcement and Justice
Administration and a lot of the guys and
girls that I went did my undergrad with
a lot of them became Illinois state
troopers um and a lot of them you know
unfortunately have been injured on the
job throughout the years um since I
followed their their careers um but yeah
Illinois state trooper um so it's
essentially the State Police in Illinois
um so this is state trooper Dakota
Chapman Green um essentially on October
24th in Springfield Illinois uh the
trooper Chapman conducted a traffic stop
at an individual named Christ ball
Santana now here's what um here's what
officer or Trooper Chapman didn't know
is that christop Paul Santana is just a
piece of um he he is a suspect in a
murder from a week prior for a a young
female teacher in Chicago he was a
suspect in that murder career criminal
um obviously when the when the trooper
made the traffic stop it was a regular
traffic stop he didn't know that again
as a police officer you never know who
you're stopping you know like I can say
that I when when I was working on patrol
you know I I I maybe made you know 5,000
10,000 traffic stops right I I never had
someone shoot at me uh it's it's just a
coincidence that that never happened to
me but officer officer Chapman you never
know who you're stopping and he stopped
this guy Mr Santana on this day um so
what happened is basically as the police
officer um was making a uh was making an
approach to the vehicle um almost
immediately Mr Santana stepped out of
the vehicle armed with a firearm and he
started shooting shooting at the police
officer he fired 10 rounds at the police
officer struck him multiple different
times including in the face you can see
the police officer kind of retreat
around to the passenger this is all on
dash cam video you can see the police
officer Retreat over to the passenger
side of the video and then Mr um Santana
he doesn't just leave he actually
follows the police officer around to the
other side of the video um he stopped
shooting because I think the gun jammed
or he was out he was out of rounds and
he starts beating beating the the police
officer at that point um he then drives
away um uh the the there's there's you
know some good news at the end of this
so um obviously after this happened
there was a the officer did survive so
I'm put that out there right now Trooper
trapman did survive um he suffered uh a
brain bleed uh facial and skull
fractures obviously extremely serious
injuries he did survive um however a few
hours later while police officers you
know basically around the whole state at
that point you know police officers were
able to find Mr Chapman he was running
along Highway he had ditched the car and
um it's actually great body camera video
the way that they stop him and get him
into custody is is a responding police
officer mows him down with the car um
you know this is It's reasonable and
it's Justified the cop's not going to
get any trouble because here you have
someone who had shot and almost killed a
police officer the idea that this guy is
probably armed yeah deadly forces
absolutely um necessary um Mr Santana
did not die obviously hit by a car so he
has some serious injuries um but he
didn't die he's alive as well um Mr
Santana is facing five serious felonies
including like attempted murder in this
particular case the case where he's a
suspect in of the murder of the teacher
in the Chicagoland area um that's not
including that case um Chicago police
are actually still investigating that
that case so he has not been charged in
that case but in this case he's facing
five serious felonies so hopefully he'll
be in jail for the rest of his the rest
of his life um there was an interesting
interview um Trooper Chapman's some
family went on the news and you know
basically what they said is that it's
always always was his dream to be a
police officer and even though he has
some pretty serious injuries right now
um uh he can't wait to get back out
there so I thought that was kind of a
kind of good ending to a tragic story um
there's a lot of police officers in a
situation like this who are killed
especially when someone when someone has
a firearm and they want to kill a police
officer and they get the jump like I
said there's almost like the reaction
time of a police officer is always going
to be or the reaction of any human is
always going to come you know
significantly after someone that that's
why in the first case we talked about
you know when Mr Perkins haded gun
pointing at a police officer again if Mr
Perkins starts firing the time it would
take for the police officers to draw out
I mean you've already been hit multiple
times right you're already dead so you
can't give anybody that leeway if
there's a gun pointed at you so um just
want to say um I am uh extremely happy
that uh a trooper Chapman um survived
this and hopefully he does get back on
patrol sometime soon um all right so
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