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on May 19th 2023 officers were
dispatched to a bank following a report
of potential fraud they were notified on
route that an elderly white female was
attempting to withdraw $15,000 using a
fake ID intriguingly the actual owner of
the account had visited the bank earlier
that same
day oh thank
you hang hang hang I'm Sor y on you no
she has okay let's here let's go talk in
here sure
hone I help you right over here
yes so this is the ID that she came in
with what's your name ma'
we are very familiar
with he's
correct I'm not well okay want to hang
out with her for a
second uh we me and you can talk real
quick know what's going on
y are you with anyone else here today no
did you drive here no friend drove me
what kind of car was the friend driving
I don't know an SUV I mean what color
black you remember what make or model or
anything like that it was a I don't
know who's your friend is he a male
white male black what's that is he a
male white male black male white okay
how how do you you come to his
acquaintance through a friend okay where
do he
St so you've got a ride from a guy you
don't know just through an acquaintance
I know him I know him through a good
talk the I'm
just keep
yep uh right here is good right here
yep you can have a seater or whatever
you'd
like while we figure out what's going
on yeah just just go ahead and set it
down for right
now this real quick okay you have the
right to remain silent and you say can
will be used against you and cour of law
or other proceedings you have the right
to a lawyer for advice before we ask any
questions that him or her doing a
questioning can afford to hire lawyer or
will be appointed to represent for any
questions if you wish you can s any time
to exercise these rights not answer any
questions are making any statements do
you understand these rights I
read with that in mind do you want to
talk to
me I guess I don't understand what you
mean do you want to I told him what I
know the gentleman who brought me
I met him to a good friend didn't carry
um and he picked me up in a
car is he is he parked out somewhere no
he's gone shopping somewhere here in
Juliet okay so he's not out here at all
no not in this area
know Cassandra that driver's license
where did you get that from he gave it
to him I don't do you know how he came
about no I know he asked to take my
picture the first time I met him okay
okay that's how he got my I wondered how
he got my picture but no I don't he
handed it to me and it's not one I've
ever seen or do I carry but you're
saying that that is not your
ID no that is not it's your picture
though yeah yes sir
okay I I don't know how he did it what
and I I be honest with you as an older
woman I ask a lot of questions obviously
I should have what was what was the
whole discussion you guys had over money
like what about just walk walk me
through it if you don't mind did I want
to make some money okay what were what
were you see you offering to pay
you it just depends on what I can pull
out like were you like 20 50/50 no 8020
like what you guys discuss um a couple
hundred and I didn't ask
the how it's dealt with really that
should have been my first
queue if I didn't want to know what was
your plan today oh I need to make $400
car payment to make I've lost my job I
understand that I'm sorry to hear that
so to come to here okay um wherever this
was
appropriate and um I make a withdrawal
and I get
a just he just hands me whatever what
did he hand you on today just the ID
okay did
that that slipped that the other officer
has over you filled that out okay and I
can't see it from here can you just
verbally tell me what it says it's the
date per name per signature and I was
going to write down the amount I think
the lady the young girl did that for me
cuz I asked for checking balance first
okay so did you guys have a set amount
that you were coming in here asking for
no I know what the check checking
account balances and then go from there
okay well walk me through that plan that
you had like if there was ask what there
is you know like what like give me an
idea like if there was 100,000 you would
take 90 discuss that if there was 5,000
take three if there's 10,000 Take N if
there's did you meet
him with the intention to do this like
you you guys talked and we were ined
that we were introduced at the my
friend's house
and hly it was what we
needed no um wasn't out any big
discussion so when when did you guys
come up with this this plan was it in
Gary in Gary yeah okay think he had the
plan he was just looking for the person
to how long because I didn't I didn't
plan this with him I no he had this all
planned he obviously knew how to do
whatever they did there and so how long
ago was it that he took your picture
probably about a week a week ago uhhuh
okay private number I just making sure
it's not my husband did he tell you what
it would be in reference or to to be
used
for mean the picture
yeah what he dve what's that what he
drive a black
Nissan um second y uh she had said
earlier uh SUV you guys got here did he
Park what happened no he dropped me off
and then which direction did he drive I
don't know if this is looking at the
front door did he go this way this way I
think he went that way okay okay I
wasn't really paying attention I was so
what was the plan from there if if
everything went right that I would just
walk out and walk if that's the front
door I was to walk that way and he would
come and find me pretty easy to
identify how many times have you done
this for him twice twice including today
or twice additionally to today twice
before today where did you do that at I
don't remember when he wasn't in Juliet
well where was it one in Indiana and one
in Illinois where in Illinois that'll be
the hard one for me cuz I'm not from
Illinois black
Nan cre cre Moy when was that might have
been Monday today's Friday yes ma'am
Monday when you went there who were you
on that
day don't remember hone did you have an
ID yes was it the same ID you use today
or a different ID different okay I mean
it wasn't that name was it your picture
yes you don't remember what the name was
though no I'm sitting here trying to
remember I what did you remember what
you uh withdrew that day what amount
three 3,000 how much did how much did he
give you from that 300
300 okay and then the time in Indiana
what day was that on
Monday also same day later in the
afternoon how much did you take out in
that
time I don't remember well what like
approximately it was under
5,000 how much did he give you for that
one two two 2,000 200 200 yes I never
made more than a couple hundred do you
remember the ID that you used on that
one it just looked like an idea and it
had my picture not my was it do you know
was it the same one that you used in cre
no was a different name was it an
Illinois driver's license or Indiana it
was
Indiana but this one also had your your
uh picture on it
you're going to take me away aren you uh
I don't I don't know we're that's what
we're going to find out okay I mean
obviously it's it's clear you've you've
done some wrong I
know this is not my investigation I'm
just here
helping I be this
hard
well I I I wish it wasn't for you but
it's all right fortunately we we get
dealt the task at
hand you guys do a nice job I wouldn't
want to be a police officer I wouldn't
want a son who was one
nowadays but with a great confession you
100% sure of a black
SUV okay I
so hopefully
got s
yeah well she said the plan was she was
going to come in get the money and then
walk she said if this was the entry way
that she was going to walk this way and
that he would find a way to spot her and
then grab her
and after you use the words grab but no
pick you
up thank you for comly stopping me at
the front door sir of course it could
have been stupid and ugly
sure no this is stupid and ugly enough
for any Dad
too uh just out of curiosity you don't
have any weapons on you or anything like
that honey okay need female officer to
sech no we are going to have a female
coming come and search you no needles no
knives nothing like that nothing that's
going to Poker stick her no I would not
do that to her no I would carry that on
me
anyways Hi man hi
I just told him I don't have anything
that would poke you I don't have
anything I'll let you make sure that
okay but I don't have anything that
would poke you or hurt
you appreciate that it is not perfect
you're F thank
you give you a minute stand up
honey what's that you want me to stand
up you me out of
the
okay tra off there I got you out of the
car 11 MD what's the last part of
it the doors are open to be
anyone stand by okay all right all right
stand
outs this wall I would believe
so we go just place your hands on the
wall in front you
it's a wire bra okay you want me to lift
him I
no sorry I to the L I'm not sure she
good
she's okay what's that honey fraudulent
ID I've never been handc so let me know
if I supposed to do something with no no
no you're fine you're fine just relax
bring my cell phone yes I'll grab your
cell phone we'll bring it up to the car
can ask give
the report number please do you is it
okay with you if I turn this on silent
please okay it's okay if you turn it off
grab that
out of curiosity as
we what what does he what's he look like
what's
he we get a sper what I remember what
color oh no I [ __ ] all the way down oh
the white
guys here long as my partner is longer
shorter
camera huh said look at that you learn
something new every
day that wasn't in my tutorial of uh
training uhoh
I got you don't worry I'm kind of shaky
at
61
okay oh what do you do with your
hands if you want you can go ahead and
kind of uh you can twist a little bit ow
ow ow so you don't have to lean on them
it's okay okay yeah
okay so she I'll go down with you she
admits to doing at least two additional
yeah one in somewhere in cre mon using
another Illinois ID with her picture
doesn't believe it was the same name
Bank wow no uh it says it was on Monday
uh and then one in B perzo Indiana with
an Indiana license that was also had her
picture but was not her ID maybe back
follow back
and all right
the woman was charged with fraud against
a financial institution and possession
or display of a fraudulent ID do you
believe that the woman was genuinely
apologetic for her actions and do you
think she will learn from this
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