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Put your hands up. I got a call of a man with a gun, so that's why I'm here. Okay, put your hands up. We're going to make sure you don't have firearms on you. Put your hands up. Put your hands up. Come here. Come here. Come here. Come here. I don't want to taze you. You don't want to taze you? All right, well you're going to shoot me and put your hands up. Right now. Can you taze him? Can you taze him? SIR, PUT YOUR HANDS UP right now. Put your hands up right now. >> REMOVE IT FROM THE CAR. TAKE IT FROM TAKE IT FROM the car. He might have a gun. I would get her out the car or drive off, one or the other. >> Do not put Take YOUR HAND OFF THE GUN. Take your hand off I got called here. Take your hand off the gun right now. I got called here for the man with the gun and I'm responding. If you put your hands up, I will put my gun away. >> You responded to a guy who got tazed. >> Okay, can you I can listen to that if you will take your hand OFF THE GUN. SIR. >> THIS IS NOT GOING TO END WELL for any of us. >> 19, he's walking around. He has his hand on his firearm. Hey, watch crossfire. >> Get away from me. This is not about to end well for any of us. >> Taze him. Taze him. Taze him. PUT THE [ __ ] GUN DOWN. PUT THE [ __ ] GUN DOWN. HEY, everyone gets out. PUT THE GUN DOWN. >> PUT THE GUN DOWN. >> HEY. >> PUT THE GUN DOWN. >> PUT THE GUN DOWN. >> PUT THE GUN DOWN. >> SIR. SIR. SIR, TALK TO ME. CAN YOU please put down the gun? Sir, please put down the gun. Okay? And we do not want to shoot you. >> You got TO PUT THE GUN DOWN. >> If you put THE GUN DOWN, EVERY THIS will not this will not end Nobody wants TO SHOOT YOU. SIR, YOU ARE HOLDING a gun. >> I was not in so I got maced get away from >> You showed a gun to somebody. That's why we're here. I need you to talk to me. >> I've been maced off of my face. >> Okay, well somebody said you pulled out a gun and you said you were going to hurt somebody, okay? >> No, I did not. >> Here this is let me talk to you, okay? Listen to me, please. Sir. >> Sir, can you put the gun down so we can talk to him? >> What do you Hey, what do you want? WHAT DO YOU WANT? WE NEED TO TALK TO YOU THOUGH. WE can't just leave right now. Sir, can you just please put down the gun and we can talk? Hey. You put the gun down, I'll put MY GUN AWAY. WE ALL WILL. JUST PUT THE GUN ON TOP OF THE CAR. WE WILL all put our guns away. We we're here for a reason though. You got to understand that. Sir. Sir, what's your FIRST NAME? >> BOB. THAT'S MY NAME, BOB. >> HEY. What the Where's my car? >> 204 see if you CAN FIND HIM. 2452 TRY TO CALL HER AGAIN. I SEE HIM leaving in this car and he's IN THOSE DRIVERS. WE WILL TRY TO CALL THE COMPLAINT AGAIN. THERE'S NO ANSWER TO THE FIRST couple times. >> He's got a signal on to go northbound on Park. >> From 159. >> 650, where are you? >> About to turn northbound on Park with him. >> Hey guy, I'm coming up. Hey guy, I'M COMING UP. >> FIRST STOP ON THE RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, HE'S TURNING RIGHT ONTO UH HE'S GOING ABOUT 151st Street. >> ALL RIGHT, HE'S TURNING RIGHT ONTO UH HE'S GOING ABOUT 151ST STREET. >> SO FAR EASTBOUND 151. >> HE'S PARKING OVER by Downey. >> YEAH, GRAVEL LOT. >> CAN YOU STEP OUT OF THE VEHICLE without the gun? >> No, he's stepping out. >> So I I'm allowed to carry a gun. I don't know if you can. >> Yeah, gravel lot. 1980 STILL ON THE DRIVER'S SEAT. 4190, go ahead. >> Hold on. Talk to me. Don't worry about them, okay? Hey. Now, I'm >> You showed up in the first place. >> I showed up in the first place because somebody said you had a gun and we were they were they were right. >> I got a permit. >> the chances you had a gun? >> standing there wiping mace off of my face. >> And we're trying to figure out why that's it what what happened. We're trying to figure out why you had a gun out in front of people. >> a gun out. >> Sir, we got a call about it. I'm not lying to you. >> I didn't have a gun out. I was standing there wiping mace off of my face. >> But why I lie to you about that? >> Because you're You had a gun out previous to that. We had a caller about it, sir. So, we're just trying to investigate it, and then you up and left. Yeah, well, you got to understand you got you had a gun. That's why we're trying to talk to you. Before we did any of that, you pulled away from us. You pulled away from us. We were trying to speak with you. We wanted to check you. Yes, he's got a rifle, sir. You got a gun, too. All right, I'm going to go to the other side of the car, right? So, can we talk? Can we keep talking? I want to keep talking to you. All right, I'll let you smoke a cigarette. All right, so why'd you get maced? I'd like to get you out of the car without the [ __ ] gun, man. Well, how how'd you get maced? Why'd you get maced? It's it's important, man. I'm I'm trying to figure out what's going on. I'm trying to figure out why somebody said you they saw a gun on you. I'm trying to figure out why you pulled away from us before we even had our guns out. I'm trying to figure out why you left. We didn't taze you until you had a gun out, sir. That's all on camera, too. All right, hey, why don't you step out of the car? >> Fitz >> He's going to let you step out. >> He's finishing his cigarette, Sarge. >> Hey, he's got a dog in the back as well. >> With your hands up. With your hands up. Is your firearm in that pouch? Leave the dog in the car. Sir, stop. moving. Stop moving. Stay right there. Stay right there. Just stay right there. >> Put your hands up. Back up with the dog. >> Stay right there. Pistol was last in the right in his right hand. >> I see it. Dude, just just relax. >> Just relax. >> Put your hands behind your back, man. I don't want to shoot you. Back up. Back up. Back up. Back up. Back up. >> Cuff him. >> No, don't don't try to touch me. >> Don't try to touch me. >> Don't try to touch me, please. Please don't touch me. You just touched me once. That was one too many times. Please, I'll put the >> Let's go. Grab him. >> I'll put the dog back up. >> I'll put the dog BACK >> ALL RIGHT. OH, [ __ ] THAT WOULDN'T WORK. >> SIR. >> THAT WOULDN'T WORK. THAT WOULDN'T WORK. That wouldn't work. That wouldn't work. What the >> man. >> My dog is friendly. >> Your dog is friendly. >> IN THE CAR. >> CHECK HIS POUCH OFF. >> I DON'T HAVE IT ON ME. IT'S IN THE CAR. >> I JUST WANT TO make sure, right? You did the first time. >> It's supposed to be quiet Sunday, sir. >> Yep. >> I know. Why did y'all show up? I got maced. So, if you could have you should have showed up to help me. Like somebody just Somebody maced you. Well, you're wiping mace out of your I couldn't see. >> You definitely need help, so did you mace yourself? >> No. >> Don't play. >> I don't It happens. >> Check his waistline one more time. >> All right. >> Call animal control. >> We have a dog here in this vehicle. >> She will overheat in that car. >> We're not going to leave her in the car. >> No, we're getting her out. They should not mace a dog. >> Stop pulling him like that. >> You got to get in the car. Come on, let's walk to the car. Please. Crazy >> Yeah, I don't like being controlled. I don't like having the mark of the beast in my body. And neither do you. I hope you know I hope you know >> Have a seat. >> Can I have a cigarette, please? >> When we get back to the station, have a seat. >> you cigarettes. I'm going to grab you a lighter. I promise you. >> know you guys lie like that. >> I promise you. >> Can you Can you Can you reach in there, grab them, and show me that you have them at least? Can you see them? >> The firearm's in the passenger seat right there. >> You going to give me a cigarette for real? >> At the station, yes. You can't smoke in our squad. We'll give you one before you go into the station. >> All right. Dog appears to be friendly. I'm going to see if I can just take him. Hey, buddy. Come on. Good boy. Good boy. Come on. It's okay. Good boy. Good boy. Come on. Come on. Let me get you Let me get this, okay? Here, have a piece of bread. Here, come on. All right. Yeah, he's fine. Come on. Come on. Good boy. Good boy. Good boy. Good boy. Come on. COME ON. >> THE SUSPECT, 48-YEAR-OLD [music] LOTUS FROM ILLINOIS, WAS charged with aggravated unlawful use of a weapon, aggravated assault, and seven counts of resisting a peace officer. The suspect's dog was not injured and taken to Oak Forest Animal Control. Lotus is presumed innocent unless proven guilty in a court of law. >> How many times does an officer have to say drop the gun before it actually means something? Because if you really think about it, there's no magic number. There's just a moment where hesitation turns into risk. And when that suspect is casually walking around with a gun in his hand, ignoring commands over and over, they're watching something dangerous build in real time. Because it's not just a gun, it's the movement. Watch his hand drifting towards the holster while he's creating distance. That right there is what decisions don't get reviewed, they get remembered. And according to the FBI, a large percentage of officers killed by firearms are shot at extremely close distances, often within just a few feet. So, when you see officers holding distance, repeating commands, not rushing in, that's not hesitation, that's experience keeping things from going bad. And I love the way that officer was speaking to him. He was steady, he was calm, and not matching his energy. That's not just communication, that's someone trying to slow everything down before it crosses a line you can't come back from. But as he starts closing distance on the sergeant, that's where everything changes because once someone moves towards an officer like that, the conversation is over. Taser comes out, and just like that, control gets taken back. But let me ask you, at what point does ignoring commands become forcing someone else to act?
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