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Watch Me Argue the Constitution with Federal Appellate Judges on Zoom
Watch Me Argue the Constitution with Federal Appellate Judges on Zoom

The Civil Rights Lawyer  |  2021-03-11

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Watch an excerpt of my oral arguments before the US Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals from yesterday in the Walker v. Donahoe case, a.k.a., the AR-15 Open Carry C&$ksucker case. Taken by my legal assistant/ live audience. At issue is whether we have any Fourth Amendment rights left in America, and als...

Watch an excerpt of my oral arguments before the US Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals from yesterday in the Walker v. Donahoe case, a.k.a., the AR-15 Open Carry C&$ksucker case. Taken by my legal assistant/ live audience. At issue is whether we have any Fourth Amendment rights left in America, and also whether the AR-15 is a scary black rifle, the mere possession of which turns one into a mass murdering psychopath. For those who don't know, here's the basic way this works. Each side has 20 minutes. Whoever is the Appellant (i.e., the party appealing) gets to go first and last. I apportioned that to 15 minutes first, saving 5 minutes for rebuttal. So I talk for 15 minutes, then the bad guy talks for 20 minutes, and then I get to talk for another 5 minutes. I think both of mine got extended a few minutes due to questions by the judges. I believe the opposing lawyer finished short with time still left on his clock. As for me, I needed about another 2 hours to shoot down all the ridiculous things that were brought up in this case..... This is a "panel" of 3 judges. The other type of oral argument is where all of them sit at the same time and hear the arguments, which is called "en banc." The way oral arguments work at the appellate level is, they could just let you talk the entire time, in which case you need to be prepared to make a presentation for 15 to 20 minutes (not difficult for me if you've watched me rant for 2 hours straight). Or, they could pepper you with questions before you finish your introduction, and engage in a Q&A the entire time. I definitely prefer jury trials...... BTW, this has always been done in the actual Fourth Circuit courthouse in Richmond, Virginia. These are now conducted over zoom for obvious reasons. This was my first zoom argument at the Fourth Circuit. If you missed it live, you can listen to the recording of the arguments from this afternoon on the court's youtube channel here: https://youtu.be/M-jhuERWWqg?t=9320​ Here's the original video at issue: https://youtu.be/FidBe0w0dCU Read more at the website: https://thecivilrightslawyer.com/2021/03/10/heres-what-happened-in-oral-arguments-today-in-the-ar-15-open-carry-case-walker-v-donahoe/

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