And then what I want you to do is place your hands behind your back. Like Breeland exploited a single structural weakness. She memorized a supervisor's override PIN through observation, then ran 36 fraudulent returns over 3 months totaling $135,000 in losses. Good. How are you? No, you're good. What's going on? John. So, I've got the associate upstairs with my market asset protection manager and one other manager. How long was this theft over? Uh like 6 months probably. So, it's $200,000? >> $100,000. So, $100,000? >> Yeah, that we know of. Okay. Um We've got video with everything. Of every incident or no? Uh yeah, pretty Well, not pretty much, yeah. >> What May I ask what he was stealing? So, there it's actually faulty refunds. So, they were doing uh refunds at the register and overriding. So, she had a another supervisor's code. Okay. And would do override and like For friends or Uh no, it's for her herself. She would load it on a card right there. You watch the video? Yeah. She does a uh the transaction, does it for $3,000. So, it's $100,000? Yeah. My uh market manager will be able to give you a like the specific specific. He's the one that did the math. Do you know her name and stuff or no? Uh Keondra. How do you spell it? K E O N D R A Uh K E O N K E O N D R A Uh Breeland. B R E L A N D You don't know her date of birth or anything like that, right? >> I can get it for you. Was she She a female? She's uh white, black, Hispanic? >> Black. So, she's being cooperative? Like does she know law enforcements? She I don't think What does she think is going to happen? But she's cooperative with you guys? Yeah, I don't think she realizes the seriousness of it quite yet. Now, I don't know, but I've I've been in this club since uh January and I've trying to figure out why I was missing so much stuff, man. Finally start digging into it, digging into it, digging into it and then that's when I So, it it looks like uh returns, right? Like a return of $3,000 whatever. >> override it, but no merchandise actually gets exchanged. And then she just loaded on a different credit card, the debit card. There's nobody else there in the video on some of those. On her own personal debit card? I don't know whose debit card it is. I don't think so cuz they're different numbers every time. So, every time it's different numbers? Well, there's various numbers when we say that. >> Okay. Yeah. What's the membership cost nowadays? Uh 50 bucks for regular membership, 110 for a plus. What does the plus do? You get cash rewards for like if you shop with us enough. That's why I'm a BJ's brand Oh, come on, man. This guy is all right. I don't know about him though. You shop here, don't you? Yes. Oh, they got nice stuff in here, dude. I haven't been in here. Soon Hello. >> in. Hello. How are you? What's your name? Kiki. Kiki? With two K's? No, K E O N D R Oh. I was I was going to sit here, but this is I know, dude. miniature. No, I'll sit. It's okay. Where are you from? Indiantown. Indiantown? That's where you currently live? No, I I stay in Fort Pierce. Okay. How long you work here? This year will make three years. Okay. That's not bad. I'm John, by the way. Or Alister Labiano, whichever you prefer. Do you know why you're here? Yes. You think? Okay. I'm not going to ask you any questions or anything like that. Um I'm going to wait and see what we what we got and everything else and then we can kind of go from there. Okay? I tell you this, no one's here to mistreat you. It is what it is at this point, right? So, as long as you stay compliant and that'll it is what it is, right? Your reason behind it is your reason. We'll decipher that down the road. If you want to talk to me about that, you're more than welcome to. All right? Is this your first job working here or Yeah? You got kids? Two. Boys? Girls? >> Girls. They stay with you in Fort Pierce? Um do you have your ID on you or no? No, no. Okay, no big deal. Your first name is Keondra. K E O N D R A D R A? D R E D R E Okay. Middle name? And then last name is Breeland. B R E L A N D Do you have anything on you that you shouldn't? No. Okay. I know it sounds silly. Could you No no scissors or anything like that? No. Okay, could you stand up for me, please? You're good. I'll get that. Can you Can you remove your vest for me uh without exposing yourself obviously? Um you you can take it off. Take it off? Yep. Um Your chains, can you pull up your chains? Yeah. No no no. Don't unhook yourself. I'm sorry. I don't I want to be clear. Without exposing yourself, pull up your chains so I can just make sure there's nothing. There you go. And then turn around for me. Okay. I'm going to um ask you to take the um right pocket there. Take whatever's out of the right pocket and your cell phone, please. And then if you could without overly exposing yourself, just lift up the back of your shirt for me. Thank you. Spin spin spin spin. Thank you. Thank you. Keep spinning. Oh. Okay. Thank you. And then what I want you to do is place your hands behind your back. Like you're praying so to speak. Backwards. You're good. You're good. I'm not trying to get your hair all all gross, you know what I mean? All right. Let me double lock my cuffs so they don't take up on you. What? I do not know. Um I'm sorry. Is this all your stuff? Brush and all that. I'm going to What I'm going to do, I'm going to get a bag, okay? Three charges apply. Grand theft over $100,000 under Florida statutes section 812.014, a first-degree felony. Scheme to defraud under section 817.034. Theft of personal identification under section 817.568. The central constitutional issue, no Miranda advisement appears on camera before questioning begins. Under Miranda versus Arizona 1966 statements obtained during custodial interrogation without prior advisement risk suppression at trial. When Breeland said, "I don't want talking." she made an ambiguous invocation. Under Berghuis versus Tompkins 2010, continued questioning was technically permissible, but every statement after that point carries suppression risk. You know what's going on? Right now right now you're under arrest. Okay. Um So, I'm going to bring you back to the station. We'll have detectives come talk to you there and then we'll go from there. I'll probably be with you the majority of the day. Okay. So, you're going to have to deal with me. All right? So, we'll be good. If you need need anything, just let somebody know. You know the bathroom? Not not necessarily now. Like I said, no one's going to treat you bad or anything like that, all right? All right, is that your stuff? Yeah. Um Is that an armband? No, um for my hair. Do you want me to see if I can get you some tacos for lunch or no? Okay. This is info. Manager. Okay. All right. We got to be very careful going down the stairs, all right? I don't want any accidents. Okay. All right? Hold on one second. Let me go a little bit before you. You know what? Looking back on this, I kind of did this messed up. I'll take the hit on this I probably shouldn't I They have pizza ovens. The bar. Sit your bottom first and then just watch your head. Yeah. Yeah, sorry. We can't afford the cushions. Good? Yeah. All right. Do you want to do these as I just read them to you? Yes. Okay. Do you want to have a discussion with us? You got to verbalize things. I don't I don't really understand what's going on. I've never been in trouble before in my life. Okay. Well, what I'm asking you is do you want to talk about why you're here today? Um This and the and the manager and Yeah, they they he was already up there. Um and he wanted to talk and and and he told me about why I did what I did. And I told him Well, what did he tell you? I'm going to come with details, okay? Um I mean, clearly he brought you in and said, "We got a problem." Right? What problem did he tell you that you had? About the refunding, why not following the health friendly aisle, even though I've never been to friendly. So, I don't know the whole specifics of this whole thing. To be honest with you, I was at breakfast. So, they called me up and asked me to come in this evening and and I just found out. So, you were refunds taking the product or were you just getting the SKUs and writing the SKUs? Running the SKUs? Okay. So, you didn't actually take the TV. Well, that's good, though. That That's good because if you actually were taking the stuff, then that would be a bigger issue. Good. So, you were taking the SKUs off the thing and you were going over What What's your position at the store? Cashier. Cashier. So, you would have access to to return stuff. And where did you do this in the store? I don't really know how that store is made up, to be honest with you. All right. Membership desk. Oh, okay. So, you'd be at the membership desk, you'd get the SKUs, you'd ring it up and do it as a return. Yeah. Now, to do that, what would you have to do? Cuz I just know that when I've returned stuff, you have to call a manager over to to do something. How How does that work? Yeah. Or did you have the ability to go in and do it on your own? Yeah. You could or you have to call a manager? >> No. Um the supervisors um uh it requires the override. Is that like a number? Yeah. And is that number assigned to each supervisor? That number is assigned to And how did you get that number? Um just by them overriding and I you know Watching them? Yeah. Well, that's typically how you learn. Do you What manager did you get it from? Not a manager, there's supervisors. Um What supervisor did you get it from? Paola. Who? Paola. Paola? Is that correct? Mhm. You friends with Paola or I mean, not friends, but I talked to her a lot. Not Not like that. I'm sorry. We just Did she give you the number or did you just You just saw her do it? I'm not going to tell you. >> I mean, regularly being at the register. Um over over overrides a lot, so they're That's part of the That's part of their job, overriding. So, they do it over and over a lot. But, you had the knowledge to go ahead and how to do that, right? I did. I saw them. Cuz you saw what they were doing. Yeah. I saw their numbers. And now So, Paola wasn't involved in any of this? >> [snorts] >> It's just you? Okay. So, um you said TVs. Yeah. And I saw a list. There's a a a bunch of different items. How long has this been going on? Not Not long, like 2 months. 2 months? And when you would do the returns uh of the money, where Where did the money go? To relatives. Yes, completely. Well, yeah, but don't you have to And I'm just speaking from my experience in doing these kind of things. Don't you have to like give them a card or something like that to put the money on? Where Where was Whose card were you putting the money on? On debit cards. On your debit card? No. No, I wouldn't do anything from me. No. Whose debit card were you putting it on? Not from my relatives. What's that? Relatives. So, they would give you a debit card and you would put money on it for them? So, there's a different debit card for every transaction? Not that many. Okay. Were they aware of what you were doing? Not really. They just Well, they kind of had to be aware, right? Cuz they were getting money in their account, right? So, they would kind of have to know unless you were explaining something to them. Did you tell them what was going on? No, they just knew I was help just helping them. They were in need I've always been genuine and a fair good heart, so Well, I get it. Family first, right? Um Do you have any perhaps an idea how much money that you did this for? How many items to a total? Does uh over $100,000 seem about right? Cuz those those are the transactions that they're supposedly have have pulled up. Did they tell you that? No, I didn't do that. No. I didn't Well, you might be surprised, though, because what TVs are 1,500 bucks or whatever a piece, it can can I add up pretty quick, right? If you you did 100 TVs. >> No, no, I didn't. No, no, not at all. No? No. So, you'd be shocked that it was over $100,000? Yes, I would because No, that's I would be shocked. Okay. Anybody else in the store doing this that you know of? Or did Did anybody else teach you this? I'm going to hear you being truthful to us. If there's other people that are doing it, they're going to find out. You can't lie. We don't know what the other person is going to say when we find them. So, the last thing you want is them to turn around sit there and say Yeah. Sit there and say, you know, she's the one that told me how to do this and you know. So, I just looking at you, I can tell there's other people that are doing this that you know. Who are those people? Just my years of doing this, I can see you're you're You do have a big heart. I can see you're struggling right now. There clearly is more than one person that's doing this. And that's what we're trying to say to you is you don't want to get yourself jammed up for stuff or transactions that you didn't do. If somebody else is doing these transactions, those are the ones that need They need to be held accountable for their actions, right? And so, that's why we're asking you this question. Because as they go through and they pull this data, they're just going to attach it to the person that it belongs to. Well, I'm only responsible for my actions. I agree, but your person that talked you into doing this is also needs to >> what everybody else is doing. No. No, but you said there was somebody that taught you this. And And they taught you something that they shouldn't have taught you, right? And now you're going to experience a a consequence of that, right? I mean, also, I don't know if you're this person was forcing you to give you some cut of it because they're teaching you how to do this and explaining how to do this, Y and Z. And I'll be honest with you, we're going to look into all the bank records. So, if it's going to this other individual, it's going to look a lot worse for you. All right? And if it's going back to yourself as well, and you're telling us that you're not taking any portion of it, it just doesn't look good. All right? So, this is this is your time to to tell us exactly what happened. It's the only thing that's going to help you. So, it's not about snitching. This is about making sure that you're only liable for what you did. So, clearly it's somebody that works at the store. Was it a supervisor? Just another cashier? Well, it'd have to be a cashier, right? Cuz they would have They're the only ones that had access to Right? I don't know what I'm doing myself into. I've never been in trouble, but I don't want to talk to I'm sorry. No. No, that's fine. I'm not really I'm That's fine. Not a problem. I'm sorry. When Breland clearly requested an attorney, questioning stopped immediately. That response was correct under Edwards versus Arizona, 1981. The one procedural moment the officers handled without fault. Detective B plus. Professional, respectful, honored the attorney request. Deducted for the absence of on-camera Miranda documentation and continued questioning after the ambiguous with silence invocation. Breland B minus. Full physical compliance. Invoking counsel was the right call. Deducted for voluntarily disclosing the fraud mechanism, the PIN source, and fund routing, none of which were legally required. Sam's Club A minus. Thorough internal investigation, solid evidence package. Deducted for a single point PIN override system with no rotation policy. A control gap that enabled months of undetected fraud. Three takeaways. Suspects, silence is a constitutional right, not an admission. Officers, record Miranda on camera. It protects the case, not just the suspect. Organizations, a single access point with no audit cycle is a liability, not a system. So, um I'm just going to tell you what they're going to be charging you with, just so that you're aware of it. They're going to be charging you with uh grand theft. And since you've never been in trouble before, so grand theft is anything $750 or more. But, because they're showing a loss of $135,000, I think it is, you're going to be charged with that. So, that's first-degree felony. And then you're going to get charged with scheme to defraud. And that's over $100,000, too. So, that's another first-degree felony. And then um theft of personal identification. And that's That's a third-degree felony. All right? So, the officer is going to type up his affidavit and he'll get it all done and then they'll transport you up. If at any time, I'll give you my card before you leave. If at any time you want to kind of, you know, set yourself free with the, you know, mentally, Absolutely. you can give me a call. Absolutely. Um I just He said it. You want to get ahead of this. That's what you want to do. All right? Thank you. All right. [clears throat] Let us know if there is an interaction or legal topic you would like us to discuss in the comments below. Thank you for watching.