I gave the guy my information I'm I'm I'm well aware of that okay but the fact of the matter remains if an officer asked you need to step out of the car he need step out of the car you allowed to ask why they'll gladly explain but again he didn't explain he never asked why okay I asked him why you were asking me to get out my car why what's wrong I gave you all my information yeah that's what I said say what the see that's the whole problem that's the whole problem what hello how you doing today stop for your speed okay got your license registration urance on you where you head to today get something to eat okay where you coming from my house your house might you have to drink tonight man you didn't drink at all what's [Music] this okay all right do me f come out with me real quick information I'll get you out here as soon as I can come on out with me real quick something asking you to man so I can talk to you out here give you my information I understand that but I'm asking you to come out now I'm asking you to come out so come on out I just why are why are you making this difficult I don't know okay well then come on out and talk to me man I'm talking to you right here I asked you to come out of the car what's wrong I'm asking you to come out I'm asking you to come out and you refus to do that that's what the problem is I really ain't you ain't what give you my information did you hear what I said did you hear what I said yeah I heard that okay then come on out I give you my information we're past that man we're past that you can either come out or I'm going to take you out this car this truck you going to make it more difficult than it really is man I'm telling you I'm not trying to you what you are you're working that way you just just come on out then make it easy for yourself make it easy for yourself man I'm not going to ask I'm not going to ask you again I want to tell you to get out there and rip the other car now you can come out like a grown man and talk to me easily and we can get out of here one or two ways man okay then come on out I did you hear what I said did you hear what I said why are you talking to because you're avoiding what I'm telling you I'm telling you the other car now now you can either get out will I'm going to rip you out of that truck what is the problem did you hear what I said I just told you what the problem is I'm asking you to get out now I'm telling you get out I just gave you my ID we're pass that brother right that ID then get out of the truck before you make it difficult on yourself I'm not trying to make a differ all right I want to tell you one more time or I'm taking out of that truck and I'm going to charge you with resisting one of two ways man that Ain making no sense I just gave you my get out of the truck now I just gave you my information all right we're going to get the hard way then where cuz you don't want to get out you're refusing to get out the truck you're refusing to get out the truck you asked for my license okay I gave you my license you're right you did I got the insurance yep right now get out the truck what I just told you because I'm telling you get out the truck you said you pulled me over for my speed but I wasn't even speeding you were speeding no I wasn't how fast were you going how what how fast were you going how fast was I going how fast were you going then you said you weren't speeding you said you weren't speeding how fast were you going then I wasn't what's the speed Lim the speed limit right here is 35 25 my man maybe maybe pulling this way is 25 25 yeah I wasn't speeding you don't even know how fast you're going come on out wrong to rip you out man I'm telling you I'm telling you my man you going you going you going continue making it put on yourself I'm not make all right you ask my license I passent my man okay and I gave you my insurance the registration get out of the truck now get out of the truck now you're doing a lot man I told you that get out of the truck now get out now problem get out of the truck now what is the problem I'm not screwing around anymore I told you get out four times more than four times get out I just get i'll buckle your seat belt and get out of the car now get out now hold up no no holding up get out of the truck now get out of the truck no get out now why can't I I said get out of the truck I gave you all my information get out of the truck now I gave you all my information you're going to get Tas and get out of this truck in about 2 seconds get out of the truck now that's illegal man it's not illegal it is it's not illegal it is bet it is it is okay you don't coming out the truck I gave you all my information what pass that my man I know you did I know you passed all that get out of the truck now before you get I ain't did nothing wrong you ain't even run my license get out of the truck even ran my license truck now you haven't even ran my license I don't have to get out now you haven't ran my license get out now what is the problem get out of the truck now you haven't even ran my license get out of the truck now Hey sir get out now he haven't even ran my license I have to Sir um excuse me you want to talk to me yes can I can I talk to you then yeah you can talk to me but you have to talk to me out here okay no listen I gave him my ID I got driver license I got listen sir me listen look at me it's going to be okay it's not okay get out if he's telling you to get out just come out and talk to it's not okay I mean you're going to you know you're going to get out either way so like you might as well just be cool with us you know what I mean I am being cool you're not I told you plent of times I am being cool we can have this discussion after the fact I promise all right just hop out of the car for him okay I just gave him my license you're not you're not listening you don't know tase your ass out and then get TR to rip you out we go we don't need to go that way why are we going through this anyway it get out or not sir I'm talking to both of y'all he got his camera on I have my camera on too right listen sir I gave him my ID okay I gave you every chance and I got insurance okay there's no need for me to have to get out my car all right first off a high law a case law St that if we ask you to get out it's a lawful order I don't we don't want it listen doing a use of force that's a lot of paperwork that we don't need to do that we just need to step out have a conversation with us okay for what because he asked you to and what he said I was speak okay I'm not speeding okay now you're sto now now you stop yeah I'm stopped now because you stopped me get out of the car now I'm done arguing with you I'm about toip I'm not arguing I'm about to rip you out man I'm about to rip you out you going against my don't even start dude don't even start don't start what just get out of the car just make it easy on yourself man get out the truck come on man you got the law right why are you doing all that run your hand on the seat belt take seat off what I'm telling you you're going to get what is she doing all that Rel relax relax I am relaxed all right I am relaxed y y me off my car y yoke me off my car come on man get out of the car now come on anybody else in the car put your hands behind your [ __ ] back put your hands your back put your hands behind your back dude stop I'm not you are you are hold that hand further behind the back I got all right you guys are good I got him all right hey man listen what send supervisor no just me out of my carus here's what we're going to do right I gave you my license shut up I gave you my insurance I just you [Applause] everything on your right I am I want get down like this too we have door you're right I told you plenty of times dude you don't want L him list about what listen about what you ask for a license and insurance I you that stop there's nothing I can do man you got me handcuffed there's nothing I can do I have 6 one okay have 69 okay listen we're going to roll you on your left shoulder get you on your knees and help you stand up stand all right well we're going to do it this way yeah I'm sure you're a [ __ ] Warrior just put your knees to your chest knees to your chest knees to your chest I can't move my head move your knees in move your knees your knees in your knees in there you go now down all right then we're going to help you stand one two three all right uh he needs to search behind his [Music] hands 15 go back here see you you loosen them up a little bit can you loosen them up a little bit there's no mo I was going to change the cut down and get this one loose it's too on all stand still man you need a squad or anything no do I need a what do you need a squad huh a squad yeah you m i probably do you want you want to get checked out by Squad all right hang on come over here a little bit seat for seat up they are Loos as they can get man I'm telling you I loosened them all the way it's on the very last one I ask you something yep I gave you my license have a seat my man man my insurance let me see y pull me get in the car get in the car discusting this right okay can your feet fly on the ground right here sit sideways and put your butt in you see how big I am I know exactly how big you are okay then I can't get in here like this hey you got two choices man I'll give you two choices again you fell the first time all right you can either sitting down Wheeling or on put in the car and that's why he looking at you like that I don't care now he's looking at me a hurt my feelings can you loosen up these handcuffs kick your the leg in my man I can't man I can barely move you you have a choice to come out like a grown adult you refuse to do that kick that other leg in my man I can barely move I'm being honest with Y I can barely move man I'm not resisting nothing man not anymore cuz you cut all right you the right command sign you say C Court talk be you may stop answer question pra you understand your rights so you know right you understand them you don't understand them don't understand man [ __ ] there you go you Lo nope they're as Loose as they can go man but can you get two no 31 [Music] 31 okay nothing back 129 12 he's good 113 can break for a 61 it's going to be a diamond back 5.56 rifle okay break for the serial number David boy 2487 010 David boy 24871 0 okay nothing you all right I'm good TR you playing with with head uh heus car oh yeah 61 right here yeah looks like a so uh what's going on Main Street Mar Main Street so Market yeah last time where I he was coming east time check him at 60 M hour and 35 25 M yeah I think it's 35 where I checking at 35 60 turn around got him stopped him he pulled over right here walked up there asked for his license me to speed in said he wouldn't speed in like got all his information so as we get out he kept going I gave you all my information now get prob make it harder yeah you come out I'm taking you out just kept kept going back to I gave you license registration Insurance yeah I was so showed up had the door open I was like have the T out I was like get out you get T I'm going pull you out he's like I don't need you for what I'm telling you get out the car now so he got there we justed him him out quick got him down he was kind of resisting on get cued got arm me and then we're doing search going like Caine they the whole time you were had to wrestle with yeah they had on person whole time think and he was he Ted up so we couldn't cut until took us yeah yeah I wonder if we can get mil on that yeah resisting and then improper handling which is under inflence has a there's aif on the top of the bed truck yeah it's in a bag was in the back seat magazine is in Center no around the chamber yeah so I if we want to take that off or yeah you can't leave it in the truck for the toe but I mean are we taking that for a a charge charge you like um technically it's still available to them in the back seat I think the the one on his person while he's drunk I think I mix it a I don't know how it going how are you good just talking to Jason about getting booked when they take him on I I wonder know if it's an F4 or an F3 it's proba F4 I think proba be I think it's uh weap weapons well intoxicated cuz it on his person oh yeah yeah he res yeah but you the car hi there sir Sergeant work Police Department how are we tonight not too good not too good is at got pulled out of my car you got pulled out of your car okay well before we get into some details can I get your first name sir let me can you spell that sir t e l e t r i u s t r i e u s your last name please Jackson what was that again Jackson Jackson okay common spelling you're in a state patrolman car I am not a state patrol man I am the city of aan okay however my officers are involved in this that's why I'm out here okay so uh there was force used on me to get you out of the car is I'm that's my understanding they forced me out of my car okay okay what how did all this start wait walk walk me through this you pull me over the trooper yes okay yes for my driver license I gave her my driver license okay I gave her my insurance okay and then what Happ then he opened up my door he didn't say anything he just opened the car door he told me to get out the car and then what' you say I said I just gave it all the information that you need from him okay so were you refusing to get out of the car then I just gave him all the information that he needed I understand that but were were you refusing to get out of the car when he said would you please step out when I'm get out of my car for well sir um I can smell the odor of alcohol so I'm guessing he was going to perform some field sobriety tests okay so whenever we ask people to get out of their car you you have to do that okay you're allowed to ask why and we will gladly explain that but the fact of the you know the fact of the matter is if we say hey we need you to get out the car we need to get a car okay so that's I'm I'm I'm going to assume that's probably what led us to this point all right now you're allowed to refuse any in Old test but uh you still need to get out of the car when I ask you to all right uh so what happens from there he pulled me out of my car and slapped me on the ground he pulled you out of the car and slapped you on the ground slammed me on the ground slammed you on the ground okay uh were there any you know punches kicks anything that like that thrown or was it just kind of a take you to the ground he P me out my car slam me on the ground okay what part of what part of this involved my officers if if you can recall it all my officer wereing this uniform yeah the officer pulled up he came to the car are you talking on my officers now okay okay sorry I'm only trying to to keep things clear and and straight for my own I told him I gave him my driver license is he at your window is he at your passenger side my driver side okay they all driver's side okay I gave all the information that's to me okay then he helped pull me out the car were you with that so was anything said again did they did they give you another chance to kind of get out on your own he said you can get out of the car or we going to have to pull you out of the car that's was so you you decided you decided the hard route down no I didn't decid the hard rout I gave you all my information right which which which you're supposed to but again as I stated before you're right so you're but when we ask you to get in the car you need to exit the vehicle okay he had every this this the stripper had every right to ask you to do that and you're obliged by the law to do that okay I'm only trying to explain this to you so that you understand in the future okay um so then what happens from from there you said you still had your seat belt on yes okay okay so then once you were removed taken to the ground um what what happened from there was any was anything said uh was anything else done other than just uh you know taking you to the ground I just let me on the ground okay they did whatever they did they put these handcut on okay so I mean were you complying at this point when they were saying put you know hands behind your back or what else can I be I'm already on the ground okay well again I'm not here so I just I want this is this is your chance to tell me everything sir okay I I want to make sure that you get you tell me what you want to tell me okay I don't want I don't want when I walk away you have more questions or or oh [ __ ] I should have told him that or okay I just I just want to make sure it's all out there okay it's already my word no not necessarily listen if it was that case I wouldn't be out here talking to you if it was as simple as just their word versus yours I wouldn't be out here asking you these questions right why why would I need to come out here and ask you this this is this is me I'm asking you okay I'm investigating right proced and I'm following that just as my officers did theirs okay their procedure was to call an ambulance and a supervisor when they have a use of force okay they've documented that I'm out here talking with you so that's I'm I'm I just I'm trying to to keep the transparency going okay so this is your chance everything's on body cam all right it's not being deleted it's being recorded okay it gets reviewed so I this is again this is this is your chance to explain to me whether my officers uh violated any conduct or policy in your opinion whether you feel that way or whether it happened okay and then I'll go back and review the tape cuz I can I can always listen to what they tell me but that doesn't mean that that's what actually happened okay so if everything's consistent with with what you're telling me or and what they're telling me that's that's something I have to go back and review and make sure everyone everything is on the up and up and if my officers violated any policy I I want to know about it CU I don't want them out here doing this okay because that that makes me look bad as well why would I want why would I want Back Ops out here that puts that puts me in danger out here my family in danger I can't tell people what I do cuz there's bad cops out there and we all get labeled as such and I don't I don't want that I'm trying to clear that up okay so this this is why this is why you and I are talking I want to make sure that everything's good are you hurt anywhere yes where do you hurt my shoulder and my back you shoulder my left shoulder your left shoulder okay do do you have any previous injuries to that shoulder or is this new pain yes which one new pain or previous injury I already got a previous injury okay so so this aggravated it yes okay and you said your back upper back lower back lower back okay and I'm assuming that's going to be a previous injury cuz I have lower back issues myself I think it's a guy thing am I correct in assuming that okay um do you feel pain anywhere else I mean some okay where on my wrist you're well I'm sure that's from the Cuffs you see how big I am yeah you're a big dude they got one set or two set on you I only got one only got one okay so here's the here's the here's the rub with this one you are not our prisoner okay so I I can't it's not my place to to say but what I will do is ask to see if he's got a second set of cffs that we can get you a little more breathing room with those arms would you be cool with that okay we can get you out while we're while we're standing here we can adjust those okay hang take me real quick are you no I just inventory on it and he's complaining his WR kind of a big D possible put a second set on it here yeah I'm do [Applause] that all right de come on out we're going to put another set of Coast on you it's hard to move all right well that's it on my hand on St okay too I saw that one can you help me see your butt that way so you can see your butt that way there you go got it you want to pull back this way you but this way all right come on in real quick stand up and then when you're done this be a good opportunity before he sits back down I get some pictures w way you R this position turn it in like you're fr the it's that's what it is it's a position sideway I'll turn this one here so you can get a little better comfortable allor right Mr Jackson that's about as good as we're able to do for now okay just just sort of taking them off I'm going to get some pictures of you while we got you out of the car before we tuck you back in okay you cool with that Li this interesting done a dual investigation here yeah are you you got a paint anywhere else just in your hands left shoulder and his back he told me the left SW he said it's pre-existing and so is the back with dis aggravated than you little I'm to th there hold on move taking a picture there we go can I get you the face sir can I get you the face please you know have anything on your face that you can that you can feel I don't know well and that's that's why I'm looking okay I I just want to make sure get you turn the other way TR your face scuffed up look at the front of your shirt here got what you need I do I do uh sir before I go is any anything that I didn't ask that I need to know I don't know man okay this your procedure I don't know that I just know I got to slam out of my car okay but if if there's something you feel I need to know something that's important you can tell me that's that's what I'm getting at it's not about a policy procedure thing it's just maybe I didn't ask something you even want to tell me okay if that's the case then then and I you know I'll gladly take it if not that's fine too there also something else I asked too how how if at all could this have been prevented tonight I gave the guy my information I'm I'm I'm well aware of that sir okay but fact of the matter remains if an officer ask you need to step out of the car you need to step out of the car you allowed to ask why they'll gladly explain but again he didn't explain he never explain okay I asked him why sometimes they like to explain once you're out of the car I asked him why yeah never is well it's EAS to explain when you're not in handcuff now you're handcuff you know what I mean I'm in my car you asking me to get out of my car why what's wrong I gave you all my information yeah that's what I said say what that's the whole problem that's the whole problem I'll help you in I know a teaser if you sit back down tell why don't you try to bend over and put your butt in first you are get you guys explorers yeah um what if you got your one foot in there or did you try that already usually it's like put your butt down leave your both feet out here and kind of push yourself in it's got a lot in I know weird out y easiest if your butts first and then leave your feet out here well I mean you were already in there though so we know you fit yeah all right Jack come on man hey all right you can you scoot a little bit I'm trying to tell you I can barely move I I'm aware that we got you in here once I know you'll fit [Music] can't tell you got your leg in there all right close now okay just going up this way more is it is it better if you scoot up or you are you comfortable like I mean obviously you're not comfortable what's more comfortable it's just the less of two evil man I'm sorry but that's how it's got to be I guess right now okay