What? I mean, what do you guys think? I hurt this girl. >> We have physical evidence that tells us certain things. >> Yeah, I know. I'm sure you've got my paperwork. >> We asked Will about it and he tells us his perspective, >> right? >> And now we're asking you your perspective, but we're a long ways from your perspective when the evidence that can't be changed is here, >> right? >> Will's story is right here, >> right? And your story is out across the street about >> My story is not out across the street. >> It is. >> On August 24th, 2017 in Fargo, North Dakota, Brooke Cruz was brought in for questioning in connection with the death of Savannah Lefontaine Grey Wind, who had died as a result of homicide. Spoiler details are in the video description, and the full results of all charges in the case are laid out at the end of the video. You know, all I'm concerned about now is what kind of trouble am I looking at for having the baby in my possession. >> Sure. >> So, I mean, there's you guys are detectives, you know. I mean, I do know I know some of what they found. I know some of what will said. We actually haven't sat down with the prosecutors to really put it all together yet as as far as everything. Um, I think there's a lot more to talk about before um talk about this concern. I I promise that you'll know um you know what the end result is, but everything there's a lot to talk about. There's >> lots to consider. >> Okay. Well, what would you guys like to know? Um, >> should we just start with Saturday? >> Yeah. Here, here's the family premise with this program. Um, and and I say the same thing to Will and I say the same thing to everybody that I interview. A lot of what we want to know >> is your perspective on things because only you know that, right? Sorry, my phone's so like I used this example earlier. Um, we all witness a car accident that I stopped and you say that guy was flying and I say >> that guy wasn't flying so he was doing this because your angle and this and your experience and your own personal life and everything else comes into play will change your perspective on >> and so what I don't want to have happen in a case like this is >> the guys that that uh conducting the service warrant and do the crime scene work and I do crime scene work myself so I I understand how this goes is we've got, you know, physical evidence pieces of, you know, A B C= 1 2 3. So, we have these these, you know, nameless, spaceless pieces of evidence, right? They are what they are. >> They're not it's not subjective. It's it is what it is, right? >> So, >> in order to understand how we got from A to B and then to C, we need your perspective. We've gotten a lot of Will's perspective. >> We'll need to know where you're at with all of that. What were you thinking? What were you feeling? What were you going through inside? Because it's going to be different than what Will went through, what >> Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. >> So, the fairest way for us to do this when we when we do these police reports, let me go the other way. The most unfair way to do these kind of reports that we do is to say, well, A plus B is C >> with no interjection from you. No, no offering from you. Right? So, >> right, >> the fairest way for me to say to answer your question, well, what are we going to talk about is >> what do I want to talk about? >> Okay. And the easiest way for me to do that is chronological. Sorry, it's my own brain. That's how it's wired. >> Oh, I get it. I get it. >> Like it's >> Okay. Well, let me start by saying that I met Savannah many weeks ago. Many weeks ago. And she was not happy. She was not happy with her parents. She was not happy with her life. that car that everybody says, "Well, why would she leave it? It's her car." Um, was her car in name only. And she approached me. We started talking. What? Well, initially what happened was I went downstairs to ask if because they the gray ones um have a really bad habit of accusing people of stealing from them or doing them dirty. Like okay, >> the only real time I've ever talked to them besides when I've talked to Mrs. Grey at her work is when they bang on my door wondering, you know, did you steal my fishing poles? Did you steal this? Did you steal that? you know, so >> so the dynamic um between the uh neighbors is not that good. Um and so I'd gone down there just honestly in an effort to show this family that I'm not the one stealing her mail. I'm not the one stealing her vision, you know. So I asked Savannah Savannah's sister, she wasn't there, Mr. and take that into come up. Look around. Look around my place and see that I don't have the mail and I don't like the fish and poles and I don't have this and I don't have that. >> Sure. [cough and clears throat] >> They were home. So, the offer was declined. I chatted with Savannah for a little bit and that was that. And then I caught up with her again. and she was crying and I, you know, well, what's wrong? You know, you shouldn't be crying right now. She's really happy right now. >> And um she was just sick of it. She felt like she was doing, you know, pulling all the weight for the family and doing this and doing that and uh wasn't with her boyfriend. Apparently, he had cheated on her and um a couple of times, I guess. And without going into any details, you know, she just said that she was sick of it and wanted to get away. And um I helped her do that. >> Okay. >> I helped her do that. >> When was this conversation about was this over multiple conversations or >> several? Yes, several. Very short. Um you know, very brief. I wanted to I wanted to let her know that she could trust me >> and that I wasn't going to tell her mom or her dad what was going on. >> Okay. >> And this is why I asked, you know, what am I looking at here? Am I looking at obstruction charges? Am I looking at, you know, I don't know. I was honest about Saturday there, you know, she wasn't there. >> Um, and she was supposed to come back for the baby yesterday. Okay. So, so what about Saturday specifically then? Did you guys or over the course of these conversations you're you said you were going to help her get away? How were you going to do that? >> I basically told her how she could break her water and then her labor and have her baby. >> Okay. How would that help her get away? >> Cuz then she could go. She didn't want the baby. >> Okay. She wanted to get away and I told her, "I can only do this for a couple of days. You're going to have to find something else to work on, somewhere else to go. You know, I can't." And so then, yeah, I briefly thought, well, you know, if she doesn't come back, I can go ahead and try and, you know, claim this baby as my own if I if I need to, you know. >> Okay. >> And uh that that's basically that. I mean, other than that, I there's nothing else I can tell you. There hasn't been anything else going on. I've basically just been watching this little baby, hoping that this girl comes back. She didn't tell me anything about anybody she was involved with. She kept it short and sweet. I got to get the hell away from here. It was a mistake moving back in with my mom and dad. You know, I don't know what I'm going to do with this baby. I need to get away. And I offered to basically distraction so that she could do that. >> Okay. And so you help her have the baby. >> No, I didn't. She left and then she came back Saturday. Actually, probably would have been Sunday. Monday. Monday. early Monday morning around 3:30. Um, I met her outside and I was a baby and she left and that was it. >> Did she call you or text you or No, she didn't have my number. She just knew where I live and I never leave my house. >> Okay. >> So, she knew where to find me. And if you >> You just said you met her outside. So, >> Right. Well, if you if you're looking if you're standing in my bedroom >> and you pull that cardboard box away, >> you can see right down into the back into the back area there. >> Okay. >> So, I just kept a lookout for her. When I saw her, I ran down, grabbed the baby. I went back up. She was gone. And she said that um the baby looked real good. And she said that, you know, please don't tell anybody. I'll try to be back sometime next week. And that was it. >> How did she know to How did you know to look out the window at 3:30 in the morning on Monday? >> Because I've been up. I was looking. I'm always looking. >> She um I'm still confused about her actually physically having the baby. >> I would not know about that. I I would not know about that. She was not in my apartment. She left my apartment on Saturday at the time that I said she left my apartment on Saturday. >> Do you have any training? Any that sort of a thing? Are you a nurse or something? >> Well, well, I've got some nursing training and I I've had kids. I mean, I know, you know, a little bit about giving birth and what's necessary for things like that. So, >> So, what kind of kind of guidance did you provide? >> I basically told her that she could I said, "Well, you know, you can break your own water, right? it'll bring on your labor. And she said, "No, I didn't know that." And I said, "Yeah." I said, "It won't always bring on your labor, but most of the time it will." And so I told her, I said, "You basically, you know, you get a a long hook and you, you know, guide it up to your service and you just break your water. It's really easy." >> What kind of hook? Um, I think what I I I don't know what she ultimately used, like I said, because she wasn't with me when she did it. >> What did you advise her? >> Um, I told her to use a shish kebab, like a shish a long shish kebab stick. >> Oh, like for like a barbecue? >> Yeah. >> Yep. Yep. >> Did you provide her anything? >> No, sir. No, sir. The only thing that I have done is take that baby and watch that baby. I mean, I can't tell you how many times I've taken you. Scared. Scared. Scared away. The brains murdering me mostly. >> Why didn't you call us? >> Because I felt at that point the police had already been up in my apartment. I just felt like I was in too deep at that point, you know. I really did. I mean, >> but but how so though that that story would explain what happened? >> Absolutely. But at the same time, I you know, Will had that warrant and you know, I just I $300. >> I know. I know. I know. I know. It wasn't that big of a deal, but he didn't want to go to jail. So, um you know, I don't know. I don't know why I didn't assist you guys better. I don't know why I didn't come clean. But that's the truth of it. I mean, that's the reason why she wasn't in my apartment. That's the reason why there wasn't a baby in my apartment Saturday both times or Sunday when the police were there. I had no baby in my apartment then because the baby was there. [ __ ] What? >> Brooke, obviously you've been in here for a long time waiting to talk to us. >> Oh, [ __ ] yeah. >> And we've been talking to Will. >> Okay. >> And then in communication with all the U officers and and other agents that are still conducting the search warrant at your house. >> Okay. >> What you just told us is completely untrue. >> Okay. Okay, cuz you guys were there. >> I wasn't there, but >> Okay, so you don't know. >> But A plus B and C, remember? What you just told me makes no sense at all. >> What I just told you is what happened. >> But what you just told me makes no sense. >> What do you mean? She Women leave babies in dumpsters every single day. Maybe not every day, but all the time. women leave their babies >> and that's not what happened at James Brook. And we're not here to raise voices or argue. I mean, we're just we go by the facts and we know what we have and we know what we don't have. >> Okay? >> I mean, and right down we'll talk about a lot of things with us. >> Okay. >> And he was very torn. Okay. There's he wanted there to be a strong trust between the two. >> Okay. >> And he talked about that. >> I'm not sure how much he could have shared with you considering he didn't know that much. >> Well, but the lie isn't working. All right. There's there's evidence. There's timelines that can't be changed. There's things that we know. All right. Josh had kind of said to me, you know, he's like, "These are these are independent facts. They don't have thoughts, feelings, right? No, >> they just exist." >> And and when we come across these things, we we work with what they tell us. And even though they don't have thoughts, feelings, >> not they still tell us things. >> Absolutely. >> Like the technology exists. >> Absolutely. >> All right. So, I'd like to know from you from your perspective what happened. >> There isn't much that I can tell you. >> But what you just told us isn't true. >> You don't know that. >> I do know that some things you told us aren't true. >> I All I know All I know is that I was supposed to care for that baby for a very short period of time. Are you pregnant? >> No. >> Do you have believed you were pregnant? >> Uh, I thought I was several months ago, but other than that, >> would you love what conversations you have with about that? >> Many. >> I mean, did you tell them you were pregnant? Excitement at first. Walk us through that. >> Why? Because like all of that, >> what does that have to do? >> All of that's pertinent to this case. Again, look, there's timelines. >> Mhm. >> That are in place and there's there's information that we have, >> but I'm not under arrest. >> No, you're being >> right. So, it seems like you guys aren't playing fair with me because I'm trying to tell you and give you my role, my involvement in having this baby. And, you know, I feel like you guys are trying to play me because first of all, there isn't much that Will knows about this in the first place, >> right? I believe some of that to be true. I tried to keep him out of the loop as much as possible. >> What What can you talk about when when you believed you were pregnant? What I mean, how long did you start? A couple months ago [clears throat] [cough] at this point, I don't want to say anything because you guys obviously think what I mean, what do you guys think? I hurt this girl. >> We have physical evidence that tells us certain things. Yeah, I know. I'm sure you've got my paperwork. >> We asked Will about it and he tells us his perspective, >> right? >> And now we're asking you your perspective. But we're a long ways from your perspective when the evidence that can't be changed is here, >> right? >> Will's story is right here, >> right? >> And your story is out across the street about >> My story is not out across the street. >> It is. I can't I can't change that. It it's it's it's completely out of left field. It makes no sense with what the evidence is telling us. Okay? >> And it makes no sense with what what will is telling us. >> I want you >> Well, I don't know what the evidence is telling you, but my home was searched Saturday twice and Sunday, and there was nobody there. Y >> except for Will and I. So, you know, >> and now the forensic teams are in there. >> Yeah, I get that. The forensic teams can be in there. >> I mean, what are they going to find? It's a one-bedroom apartment. >> Nothing happens. >> I want you to I want you to think about how this is going to play out in the big picture here. Okay. Savannah leaves Saturday afternoon >> on her own free will. >> Goes to your apartment. She's in the middle of text message conversations with several people. >> I get that. >> Suddenly her phone stops communicating with cell phone towers. >> What did I do? poop it out >> before Will comes home. >> And all of a sudden, you have a baby. >> No, that baby did not come into my possession until early early Monday morning. >> Yes. >> No. Look, it even based on some further than that. Um, I'm I'm not going to speak the fact that Anna wasn't really happy with how things were going at home, but she was preparing to to have a child and move into apartment. >> She had a lease signed for a week. >> I know that. I know that. >> Um, I think you I think you have a lot of information. I think Savannah probably shared a lot of information with you, but again your your story about her leaving and then coming back and you just speaking out um it doesn't align with the facts that we have the independent facts that you can't control. I can't you know nobody can just exist as they are. >> Mhm. >> You you've been at your house. You know that the Greyland family has had about 20 people on surveillance on that building. >> I Yeah, I know that. >> Since Saturday afternoon. Yes, I know that. >> I would suggest that Savannah herself walked up with a baby at 3:30 in the morning. >> I'm telling you, I walked out that door at 3:30 on Sunday night, early Monday morning, and there wasn't anybody out there. The people in apartment one, that would be apartment three. The people in apartment 3 were up partying and everybody else was asleep. So, so for you to suggest that that's not possible, >> how long do you think that officers have been out there watching? >> It is possible. I wouldn't know that. I would imagine for as long as whatever >> we got we we took the initial missing person. >> Yep. I get that. I spend I was immediately cooperative with the police. like I let them in my home. I mean, I don't know what else. I don't know. >> And what do you think Will told us? >> I don't Will very little because he didn't know very much. Why was Will under the impression that you were pregnant this whole time? >> This whole time? >> Mhm. We talked to people, bro. We talked to his co-workers. We talked to his >> Yeah, I get it. >> We talked to his former co-workers. >> Yeah, I get it. >> What do you think that he tells everybody that he works with and everybody he knows over the last several months? >> That we're having a baby. >> Why would he do that? >> Because we thought we were having a baby. >> Were you told that you >> No, I I was under the impression that I was pregnant. up up until when? >> Not that long ago. >> Like I can't give you a a specific date. >> Like I thought I was pregnant right up until just recently. And then I >> just recently >> and then I was like I got to go to the doctor because I'm sick and then look at me. I've been running a fever. For all I know, I have a dead fetus in my body right now and it and it's making me sick. I don't know what's wrong with me. Will and I have talked. You know, he knew that he knew that something was wrong with me and I told him that. >> But he also knew that you were no longer pregnant. >> No, he didn't. >> No, he didn't. No, he did. Because I didn't. Because I didn't. And I don't now. >> You just told us that you thought you were pregnant. >> Yeah. Right. >> The first question we asked. Are you pregnant? >> No. >> Was your reaction, >> bro? This is a house of cards in a in a hurricane. I'm not trying to do a house of cards. I know that I didn't hurt the girl and I don't know where she is. >> All the family wants is for Savannah to come home. >> I understand that. I totally understand that. I totally understand that. Um that's something we can make happen and that's what we want to do. >> I don't know where it should be. >> That's something that we can't make happen then that's we should know too. I don't know where she is, detective. All I know is is I've been caring for her baby and being scared out of my mind wondering what the hell I'm going to do with this baby. >> We talked about the stress too over the past few days uh starting Saturday. I mean, this has been certainly not been 5 days, whatever. Oh god, no. >> This is this is not been he acknowledges that like >> again the house of cards that Josh talked about like world acknowledges that this just been awful. You know, >> I get it. I get it. I get it. But if I'm not under arrest for anything, why am I still being detained? >> Because it's more complicated than that. >> And how long can I be detain? I know, but can I be detained at the jail? I mean, I'm sick. I probably should be like seen [clears throat] by somebody >> and and and we can make that happen. We want you to be safe, too. But we're very very concerned about what occurred here and and how we're going to resolve this. Whatever happened can't be changed. >> No, I understand that. >> Okay. The only thing we can do now to help is is to get out in front of this thing. I don't want to have to keep doing our detective work to find >> No, apparently you guys are finding all kinds of evidence in my apartment. >> I want I want you I want you to think about at the end of the day the conversation that you're having with us in this room right now. and everything that actually happened and how this is going to reflect on everything. Okay. I think that you're scared and I think that I think that some bad things happen. And the only way I know how to help you with that book is to tell you that putting your feelings, your emotions, what you've been through, how we got to this point because only you can do that for us. I can't tell your story for you. All I can do is talk about facts. I imagine that there is a a human emotion side of this thing >> that's not being told. I don't want you and Will to look like monsters. I don't think you're monsters. I think you guys got way in over your head here. I think the whole pregnancy thing was uh off the cuff um idea and then >> no builds up. >> It got out of control. You got in over your head. >> That's not how it happened. Like I had been to the doctor. I went to the doctor in January. >> Okay. >> Okay. Um they gave me an ultrasound. I was pregnant. >> Okay. In March, in March, I had a bleeding episode, >> but I didn't pass any tissue and so I just let it go. Will and I are anti-d doctors. >> Um I was a little put off by the term geriatric pregnancy. >> Yep. >> Um so I was just like, well, you know, let me let's do this, you know. homeschool style. Let's let's just, you know, you're having a baby. You're not you don't have cancer. You know, you're not sick. You know, it's a normal natural part of life. >> So, you know, I just played it by ear. I started taking care of myself. I started growing like growing. >> Um started feeling baby move. um you know just all of that and then just started feeling bad like sick uh lowrade fevers, body aches and pain. Um tired all the time, you know, but at the same time I'm still growing and I'm still feeling these movements and I have stethoscopes at home and I'm listening and I'm hearing the heartbeat. So, I'm thinking that it's, you know, that's >> good, right? We're all good, right? >> And then [cough] a couple of weeks ago, I was just like, well, I should have had a baby by now, you know? And then and then then and then I just kind of dropped the ball. I was just like, well, you know, whatever. Um, there was no malicious intent to trick nobody about anything. Um, and honestly I felt like this opportunity was maybe a godsend almost. >> What opportunity? the opportunity to potentially uh take care of a baby. You know what I mean? >> Yeah. Mhm. >> And other than that, I mean, that's really all the context I can give you as far as that goes. I mean, >> do you know what we're excited for? Well, well, well, other than, you know, the the fact my age. Yeah. Yeah. You know, not not about Well, let me be clear. Not about having Savannah's baby. >> No, I mean talking about like a family. >> Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. >> Three of you. >> Right. So then and and I know that you call my story [ __ ] but when she approached me, of course I'm going to do everything I can. >> Does it seem seems to me rather coincidental that you're pregnant, you're expecting, you and Will are excited, everything's going good, this is everything that you both want. Then all of a sudden, >> I wouldn't call it everything we both want. I wouldn't call it everything we both want. Will and I have had pretty pretty volatile exchanges. So, >> but for me, you know, it it was and I certainly wouldn't have begrudged him the opportunity to be a father. >> Sure. you know, so >> and and but then baby doesn't come, >> right? >> And then all of a sudden, >> no sudden >> on a quiet street in your little apartment building in North Fargo, the young lady who's about to have a baby downstairs approaches you and says, "I have to run away with my baby." It wasn't like that. >> But yeah, but you know what I mean? You see, I I cliffnotes it. I'll transition. >> I get it. I get it. >> But it seems rather coincidental. >> It It does and and I understand that and I totally understand that. But I really that's, you know, I'm guilty of getting caught up in an idea that I could somehow make her baby mine. >> Sure. But as far as causing her harm or, you know, anything like that, no. >> You didn't assist her with the birth. >> No. >> No, I didn't. I didn't have anything. Come on now. You talk about timelines and chronology. >> Well, you have all the home birth stuff at your house. And >> you talk about the timelines and the chronology. >> Okay. She was at my house >> from 1:30 to a/4 to 3. >> She left as soon as her dad came to the door. >> Okay. >> By 4:00, I was out on the stoop with Mr. Greywind. By 4:30, the police were in my apartment. >> Mhm. So by your own standards, detectives, I couldn't have helped her because at that point and from that point forward, I've been under siege, >> right? >> So I mean I literally >> But you were able to hide the baby in your apartment >> after Monday. Monday, Tuesday, Monday, all day Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and then till you guys showed up today. So not that long. I mean, it didn't last that long. >> That's a long time with a new baby. It's not like they're sleeping, you know, regular hours and not making any noise or anything. >> Well, you know, at the risk of sounding whatever, um, she's a pretty good baby, so she didn't do a whole lot of crying or whatever. So, sure. I mean, it wasn't like I was taking great pain to keep her before I Yeah. I wanted to take her down there many times. I wanted to be like, "Okay, no, I'm not doing this. This little scam is not going to work." Um, you know, if she doesn't come back, I can't make this baby my own. You know, and um I had talked to Will about that, you know, and he said, "No, don't do that. Don't, you know, give the baby back or whatever." So, I was just like, "Well, okay." You know, and that's that. But as far as like causing her disappearance or anything like that, I have nothing to do with that. All I know is this girl said she wanted to get away. >> Brook, you know how ridiculous it sounds. >> I'm sorry. >> It's been a long day. >> I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's called [ __ ] >> I'm just going to stand up for a bit. I can't sit down anymore. This is >> That's fine, >> Brooke. Uh, >> so what are my charges then? >> Will talked about um kind of his trust or his bond between you and kind of upset him when he was going down the road with us Saturday. Um, but the reality is he painted himself into a corner kind of like you have now and it just doesn't work. >> Okay. >> Okay. Then what are my charges? So, I'd still like to know from you that you decided this you've kind of you've kind of started to paint a picture for me and I and I I hear that like you were excited about having a family. Part of you thought that you could make this work like >> when she didn't show up to get her baby. Yeah, I did. >> When she didn't show up to get her baby yet, I did. >> But you knew she wasn't going to show up to get her baby. >> Really? Yes. >> Okay. >> All right. So, >> I want you I want you to >> So, you don't want me to give you my perspective. You just want to tell me what my perspective is. >> I I just want I got to apply the facts and I want your we want your perspective to align with what we know to be true. >> This isn't like this is >> I don't know what you know to be true. So, how can I >> But if you But you know what's true and you know that this isn't true. We could talk about Saturday. We could talk about what happened. I would like to talk about what my charges are and what my rights are. How long can I be detained without charges? >> Hold on a minute. Obviously at the same time. So the people that are working the the apartment. >> Is that why you're detaining me while they finish my place or >> I'm still Yeah, they're still collecting evidence. Let's Let's I mean, I can tell you're you're like I said, across the street. Let's try and hone this in a little bit. Back to reality, >> right? Because it couldn't have happened that way. Saturday. Let's talk about Saturday. >> Saturday. Savannah. Savannah. You go down to Savannah's apartment. Mhm. >> Okay. And And what is that about? >> I'm going to fit her with a belly panel. Okay, last. >> That's just a like cover story. She knew it was a cover story. I knew it was a cover story. Her mom was downstairs raising hell about something or another. But she wanted to get out of there. So I >> How did you know that? >> Because I had been talking to her out. >> Oh, no. No, not on the phone. >> Have you ever talked to her on the phone? >> No. Didn't have her number. I didn't want a number. So, you went down to the apartment. >> Yep. >> Saturday afternoon with the plan already in place to to what? >> Plan already in place to do what? >> You said it was there was just that whole >> clothing. >> Oh. to get her up to my place. Right. Right. Right. Um well, it wasn't necessarily a ruse. I mean, we did work on the skirt and we did talk some more and that was when, you know, she I said, "Well, hell, you can break your own order if you're ready to have your baby, you know." >> So, this conversation was Saturday. >> Yeah. Mhm. >> And then we talked I was the first time you talked to her about having your own baby was Saturday. >> Yes. Yep. >> Okay. And you talked what did you talk about? >> Um, well, we talked about our folks and we talked about the other neighbors and we talked about, you know, all kinds of things. I tried to distract her. I tried to take her mind off things and she wasn't there that long and then she left and then and then what? >> Yeah. And then Well, you said before and then so that's Saturday afternoon. Sunday, Monday morning at 3:30 or Monday night. Tuesday morning 3:30. >> Monday. Monday morning at 3:30. >> Sunday night. >> Yes, sir. Yes, sir. >> So, Saturday afternoon she leaves after you've told her. >> She disappeared. I lied to sleep. I didn't know where she went. I mean, I didn't know where she went, but you know, made like I wasn't, you know. >> Right. So, when Will gets to work on Monday and his co-workers inquire about any baby news. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I No, I wasn't there with him. I don't know what he said. >> No, we know what he said. >> I I I understand that. But >> yeah, had a baby. >> Baby girl Saturday night. >> Yes. When? Yes. Saturday night. Why would he say that? >> Saturday night told all his co-workers. >> I don't know. >> I don't know that. I don't know any of his co-workers and I don't talk to any of his coworkers. >> No, I get that. I get that. But that's really weird. I don't know. I don't know that. I can't answer you. That's something that you're going to have to ask him. I When did you tell a little about the plan? >> What plan? About leaving? >> Yeah. >> He didn't know about it. That's what I mean. There's He doesn't know very much at all other than what's happened since like I started taking care of the baby and that he has helped me with. But other than that, >> but see, you said that he knew you weren't pregnant and um he had actually talked to his co-workers about, you know, the baby coming. >> No, we didn't know that I wasn't pregnant. Like, >> you just told us >> I understand that. I understand that. I understand that. But it's like you guys said, you're in my apartment right now. And so there is going to be factual evidence >> of me tracking my pregnancy of me preparing for a home birth, >> you know, etc., etc. So, I'm not going to [ __ ] you. Okay. >> But why would he why would he tell his co-workers that you had a baby on Saturday night? That part I can't answer. I don't know. >> Do you find that odd? >> I do find that very odd. >> I also found that very odd when it talked to his co-workers. >> I do find that very odd and sir and I don't know why that would be the case. >> He just w is aware of what happened on Saturday. >> Oh, okay. >> He is. We talked about it. >> Yeah, I'm sure you did. for hours to talk about it. >> Okay. >> Not not going to save you. >> I'm not I'm not asking to be saved. What are my charges? >> If I did something wrong, if I did something wrong and I caused bodily harm to this girl, why am I not sitting in the county jail with charges right now? >> Do you think you did something wrong? >> That's not the point. >> No, I'm asking you a question. Do you think you did anything wrong? >> Yeah, I did. I did several things wrong. >> Okay. >> I did several things wrong and that's why I wanted to talk to you guys. >> What What things did you do wrong? >> I wasn't honest with police when I came to my door. And I should have told him immediately what was going on. And then when that baby showed up, I should have called him immediately then, too, and said, "Hey, you need to come get this baby." >> That's what I should have done. So, what happens if Savannah found deceased? Oh, >> she better not be. >> What happens if she does? >> What happens if we find biological evidence? Biological evident in your apartment. You might find a strand of hair somewhere. She was sitting on my couch, >> but you're not going to find any other biological evidence. >> What if they do? What if they find blood in your house? >> They're going to find blood in my house. They're going to find blood from me. They're going to find blood from Will. They're going to find blood from my cat. >> What if they find Savannah's blood in your house? >> Um, the only thing I can say about that is it didn't come from Saturday and her family has lived in that apartment before. That's what I'm going to say. >> Talking about the Walmart trip on Monday a little bit. >> The Walmart trip on Monday. >> I didn't go to Walmart on Monday. >> You did? >> No. >> Where'd you go Monday night? >> I didn't go anywhere Monday night. Hold on. Let me think. I didn't go anywhere Monday night. It's >> when we brought Will in the first time to question him. when the cops arrested him and you were in the car with him. >> That was not Monday. >> Okay. >> That was not Monday. >> Okay. >> That was Tuesday. >> Okay. Sorry about the on Tuesday. I apologize. >> Well, it makes a difference if you're talking about having a baby. So, >> okay. That that's important. Um, we went to Walmart. I don't know. What? What do you want to know about the act? You want to know about the accident? I didn't go in. >> Because I had a baby. And why didn't you talk to the officers about the baby? Will got stopped. >> Sen Will didn't get stopped. What was the cost of by part once we hit parked on the street by the apartment? >> It was Monday night. Okay. 421. >> That's not true. I'm telling you right now, he bailed out of jail yesterday afternoon. He got arrested Tuesday night. The days your dates are wrong. And if he was at Walmart on Monday, he was not with me. >> 22nd in the early morning. >> That's Tuesday. >> No. Mhm. 22nd evening. >> Thank you. >> And you guys got stopped. What? What did he get? >> He didn't get stopped. >> Okay. What did he get at Walmart? >> Um, he got a bag of diapers. He got supper. Got some yarn. >> Mhm. That was it as far as I know. >> Oh, pair of shoes. Pair of shoes. >> They're still at the house. I believe. What do they look like? Nasty. Gray. I think they're gray and bright green. I'm going to do a hole in the bottom like that on the left side. Think they're still out. >> They should be unless they've been collected by your friend. >> Any reason for him to throw a pair of shoes out? >> Other than the fact that they're whole thing? No. Not that I can think of. >> Where did u where did we go on Saturday night when all this chaos was going on at your apartment building? He was there. The police saw him >> right before we were there. >> Oh, he ran up to Hornboxers and then he parked the truck and then walked to the dollar store. I'm sure you have that on surveillance. >> What do you mean by the truck? What vehicle are you driving? >> My truck. >> Jeep. >> Yeah. >> It doesn't have a bed, so I don't call it a truck. >> Oh. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yeah. So, yeah. >> [sighs] >> Horn boxers and then he walked to the dollar store. >> Yep. Then he walked to the door. That's common. >> So he's going to drive to Horn Balkers but walked to the dollar. >> He must have forgot something. I don't remember exactly, but I know that you could prove he did a bad camera. >> What did he get on those trips? >> Oh, I think he got he stopped at the very store. He got himself from beer. Um, toilet paper. I don't remember exactly everything that we got that day. You have the household items. >> Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. beyond telling his co-workers that you had a baby Saturday night. >> And a round of congratulations on the job site occurred. >> We'll talk a lot more about Saturday. >> And it's more than Savannah was there. >> Interesting. We were only there for about 15 minutes before she left. >> I don't understand this is going. I really don't. >> This is your opportunity to tell us what really happened on Saturday. We can sit here and tell you or you can >> Why don't you tell me what I'm being arrested for? And if I'm not being arrested, >> what was going on when Will got home? >> What do you mean what was going on? >> What did come home to? I think he told us he came home to >> I have no idea what he told you he came home to. >> Then what was actually going on when came home? >> Savannah and I were sitting there talking. She was sitting on my couch and I was standing. I don't know what he told you. I don't know what he told you. And at this point, that's not my problem. My problem is to tell you what >> it is your problem. from what he told us. >> I'm sorry. Right. It might be my problem. >> Sense what he told us and yours doesn't at all. And and and that's the point I'm trying to make here, Brooke. >> What he told us happened on Saturday is hugely your problem right now. And what he told us happened on Saturday. >> Well, now I want to know what he told you happened on Saturday. >> Right. But we want to hear your side of it. I told you my side of it >> and and it's complete [ __ ] >> You might think so. >> I do think so. >> Right. So, what you're telling me that? What are you What are you saying? What are you saying? >> I'm saying stop lying, Brooke, because it's only going to hurt you in the end. >> I'm not trying to lie, >> Brooke. This girl is gone. >> Yeah. >> Is gone. >> Yep. >> You have her child. >> Yes, I know that. And that is horrible. And I totally understand that. I totally understand that. I totally understand that. I'm not trying to get out from underneath that in any way, shape, or form. And I understand that it has serious serious consequences. >> I get that. >> So when you find her blood in your apartment, >> Yeah. >> that were there before Will came home. >> No. >> Yeah. >> No, no. I disagree. I disagree. I don't know what he's telling you. >> So, this was willed. I mean, that's what this comes down to if we're going to get down to brass tax. How much did you do? How much did he do? Did you do it all together? That's what we're talking about here. >> What? >> Take that baby. >> You think I took her baby? >> I think you took her baby. >> Well, I'm sorry that you feel that way, sir. >> How am I What else am I supposed to feel? >> I'm sorry that you feel that way, sir. The story that you told is not believable. >> I'm sorry. It's not believable. Neither is your assertion that from 1:30 until 3:30, I did something horrible to this girl, took her baby, cleaned it up, hid the baby. What? >> Where was Savannah when her dad came knock? >> What? Am I super freaking human? >> Where was Savannah when her dad knocked out? >> You know what? I could have sworn he looked and made eye contact with her, >> right? He did he see her? >> He looked right in my apartment. And you know what? Don't get me started on great ones because their story has changed a lot. >> And Will's hasn't. Like Will set up a timeline that just can't be disputed. >> Well, I'm sorry about that. Then maybe you need to be talking to Will and not me. But I know what happened. >> And we did talk to Will for a long time. And his, like I said, his story makes sense. Thank you clarify with him and say it was all you. But he said it's all him. But >> I'm not saying it's all him. I don't know what it you're talking about. >> I don't know what it you're talking about. No, I don't. All I know is I was given that baby to take care of until sometime this week and I did. Exact. Okay then. So why am I not being charged with anything? >> Because we want to hear your ass. >> Why am I not free to leave? We want to know where Savannah's at. >> I don't know where Savannah is. >> Who does? >> Give me a polygraph test. I don't know where Savannah is. >> Who does know where she's at? >> I don't know who knows where she's at. Savannah knows where Savannah is. I'm serious. If you guys have all this evidence on me and I've done something horribly wrong except for make sure that that baby stayed safe until she got found. >> Yelling is not going to like convince that you >> I'm sorry. I'm not trying to convince you of any story, sir. Okay. I'm really not. Okay. My point is, you came. I've been very ill trying to take care of this baby. Deal with this whole BS with, you know, what the hell am I supposed to do? This baby needs to be given to somebody, right? >> Did Will tell you about that? >> No. No. Will tell you about that? >> You didn't. If you thought the baby could have >> Will tell you that since I've had that baby, I wanted to give that baby to somebody. Will tell you that? >> If you thought the baby should have been given to somebody, there many opportunities. >> I know I did. And that's why I'm talking to you right now. That's why I'm talking to you right now. I'm trying to take ownership of my role in the deal. But what you guys are alleging is that I must be super freaking human. I understand Will telling his people at work that I was pregnant. And you know, >> so Sunday night, Monday morning, 3:30 in the morning specifically. You said Sunday night, Monday morning, right? >> Sunday night, but >> you look out your window. >> I was looking for her. Yes. >> How did you know to look for her at that time? >> I wasn't looking for her specifically at that time. It's a You have to understand that once all this stuff started going on, I was watching the front windows and the back windows. Period. Period. >> Cuz you know she was coming back. >> She said she was. Yes. She said she was. Yes. So I was looking for her and I had hoped and prayed to God that she had changed her mind. But when she put that baby in my arms and I ran her upstairs, I basically they're >> Did she How did she show up? >> But >> wearing what she had to go by, skateboarding, rollerblades. >> I met her by Narnia. So I don't know. >> She came in through the hole in the fence. >> Yes. >> That was where we met up >> with the baby. >> Yep. >> And what was the baby wearing? >> Nothing. the town. >> Maybe he was dressed in the tower. >> Where's his pulse? >> It should be at the house. >> Tell us about that a little bit. Why? >> Where did it look like it came from? Like a like a like a house bath towel or like >> like a regular I don't know. I didn't look at I was really scared. Washcloth, hand towel, bath towel like a small bath towel. I don't know. Any words are exchanged between you and SP at that point? >> Yeah, she said you're taking care of my baby and then she left and that was >> said she said she's coming back. >> Yeah, I hoped she was. >> You said she told you she was. >> She didn't tell me that on Monday. She told me that on Saturday. >> So, she [clears throat] literally told you on Saturday. Okay, that should work. I'm going to go do it. Or like it sounds to me like the way you explain it, Brooke, is that like you have this, you know, hour or less conversation with this girl about, you know, you can make yourself have a baby like when you're ready to go, you can start the process. >> And in that moment, she was accepting that, yep, that's what I'm going to do. >> She didn't say, "No, no, no. It wasn't really like that. It wasn't it wasn't like that. It was just, you know, she was tired of she was upset, you know, part of it. >> But but you said when you went down to get her on Saturday afternoon, it was already that whole sewing thing was just a ruse that the the whole plan was that was how you were going to help her get away, >> right? >> But then you didn't tell her about having her own baby until she was up in your apartment. So, if anything, I'm guilty of, you know, maybe taking advantage of a distressed pregnant girl in the hope that she would give me her baby. You know, I mean, really, it did not hurt her. >> Did she talk about that on Saturday that she was going to give you the baby? >> That was when I brought up the breaking of the waters and, you know, trying to put it out there. Yeah. So you had suggested to her that this is how you do it, you know, and if you need somebody, find you. >> Pretty much. I think exactly what it was. >> Then how is the plan for you to help her get away already in place when you go knock on their door Saturday at 1:30? >> The plan for her to get away wasn't in place. The plan was to >> You said it was. You said >> get her up. The plan was to bid her up to my place so that we could talk. >> She could just come up to your place anytime she wanted. >> Oh, yeah. You don't know her mom and dad. >> Obviously, she's aware that she's supposed to be giving her brother a ride to work at 2:30. >> She never mentioned that to me, >> but she's aware. That's what I'm saying. She knows that. >> And if her parents are that strict and and that controlling and everything else, >> I don't know. Why would anybody pick an hour before you have to be somewhere to choose to run away? >> I don't know. Apparently, she had ordered a pizza, too. >> She did, >> right? No, she didn't. >> She did. >> Okay. >> Online. >> Okay. >> Again, facts that don't have thoughts or feelings or words tell a story. >> Right. Right. Right. >> She ordered a pizza online. Why do you think that that's something that they made up? >> Because it's something that didn't come out on Saturday and they have progressively changed their story. When when they first called the police on Saturday, when they first called the police on Saturday, they said nothing about their son knocking on my door. And me and Savannah were sitting right there. >> To who? To the media? No. To to me to the police. And then >> But they did tell the police that on Saturday. >> You don't know if they told they didn't call the police. >> No, I don't. I really don't. Okay. But I do know that the story evolved while I was sitting there with Mr. Greyway. Okay. At first, they didn't mention anything about the son knocking on the door. I knew nothing about the alleged son. >> Let's let's let's I just want to slow you down for a second here. And and again the word is perspective. >> Okay. >> You were a mother. >> Yes. >> Your child suddenly disappeared. >> Absolutely. Absolutely. >> Are you in a right state of mind? >> No. No. >> Are you thinking clearly? >> Absolutely not. And >> are thoughts coming into your mind about what what has happened and are you blurting them out? >> No sir. And that's why I have given all of their >> because that's how I would be if one of my kids suddenly went missing. I >> absolutely >> losing my mind. >> And that's what I told the police. I said, "You know what? They've threatened me. They've come and punched on my door." >> Right. But what I'm talking about, Brooke, is you're talking about the story that Mr. Greywood is telling you and telling the police, and he's keep changing his story like like he's some sort of liar. >> No, I'm not. I'm not trying to allege that. What I'm trying to say is that he claims that his son came up and knocked on my door right before he did. >> And that's just not true. >> Nobody answered. That's not true because nobody knocked on my door. >> Maybe you couldn't hear it. You didn't hear the tape. >> I I was sleeping because I've been running a favor. >> I knocked on your door [clears throat] Monday afternoon, Tuesday afternoon. >> Was that you that knocked? >> There was a movie on TV or something? >> I didn't answer. >> I am aware. >> I figured you weren't there for me. >> It's the police department registered to talk to you. >> Another opportunity. Open Detective Swan. Have the baby. Give the baby over. >> If that's what you if that's what you think you really wanted to do, which I don't believe you had any intention. >> Well, if you had talked to Will, Will told you that because Yeah, I did. >> How many opportunities did you have? >> Too many. And I let them all go >> cuz you wanted a baby. >> Well, I'm not going to lie about that. I already said I, you know, I thought maybe I could make it work, you know, but as far as making some scheme to cause her bodily injury, you know, if anything, I'm guilty of exploiting a girl who was distressed. You know, >> I'm not sure this thing started as as an intent to cause bodily injury to Savannah. >> I think the focus is the baby. I have no doubt about that. Maybe it got out of hand. >> Maybe you were going to Maybe you're just going to deliver that baby there at your house and and it and it got out of hand and went horribly wrong. And that's that makes sense to me. Okay. But this woman tells you, >> "Okay, then I don't need to say anything else." Well, you guys have all your evidence. You've got all your perspective. I don't need to say anything. >> I don't give your perspective on what really happened. >> You don't believe me. Why bother? You've kept me here for hours. I've been detained. I haven't had any access to a phone to contact an attorney. The freaking cuffs have been on my freaking arm so hard. I've got marks. >> I don't loosen your cuffs for you. >> I know. But do you know how long I laid there wasn't laid there with him? >> Well, there's an officer. >> He told me he couldn't loosen them. >> Well, cuz he was worried cuz you would can spin your wrists around him. >> Oh, well, whatever. Okay. the um detectives that are at your house are um [sighs] sending me your internet search history. >> Okay. >> Concerning. >> Okay. I'm not sure why. >> Are you concerned that I listen to Alex Jones? >> No, I'm concerned. Unassisted home birth instructions. >> Yes. >> Emergency child birth manual. >> Preparing for unassisted child birth. >> Yep. And when were those searches done? >> Unassisted baby. >> And when were those searches done? >> A lot. >> Whatever. It's not whatever. [clears throat] >> It is whatever. Yes, it is. >> Why is it whatever? Because you want to talk about perspective, but you don't have any yourself. >> I've got perspective. >> No, you don't. Because those searches were made months and months ago before Savannah even moved into that building. >> August 9th, 2017, 8:54 p.m. Google. If a pregnant woman holds her breath, does the baby keep breathing? Question mark. >> I didn't search that, >> Brooke. It's time to stop [ __ ] >> I did not search that. I'm not the only one with access to my phone. Okay. >> So now somebody else is searching these things. >> Well, you know who the somebody else could have been. >> That's like, hey, there's drugs in your pockets. These aren't even my pants. >> I would not do that. >> I mean, that's what that's what that sounds. >> Okay. So then I'm not going Okay, clearly you guys have this under control. Okay, >> this is information. >> I'm not going to say anything else. Can I please be taken to county jail? You may, but I really I really want you to think for a minute about how this all looks. What A, B, and C are going to say about you as a human being without your perspective added. You've given us a little bit. I kind of think I know where you're at mentally as far as how this whole thing happened. I don't like to assume or jump to conclusions. I want to give you, Brooke, the human being with a heart and a soul, the opportunity. Tell me your side of the story. All I can say in these police reports, book, is what you tell me. That's all I can say. And unless you tell me, I can't say it. And I don't want to have to rely on A and B and C without your perspective. All >> I have to tell you is that I don't know what happened to her and I don't know where she is. Forget all the [ __ ] that I just talked. Forget all the [ __ ] that I just talked. >> Look, they're going to find her blood in your goddamn apartment. >> They're not going to find her blood in my goddamn apartment. >> They're going to find her blood. >> No, they're not. >> Yes, they are. >> Will told us what happened. >> Yep. He talked He told the whole damn story. >> He was sick. He was visibly sick telling us what happened. >> I don't know what he told. >> I know you're the one that doesn't care enough to even give her that. That's That's the truth. You don't care enough. Just number one. You just wanted a baby. Didn't matter. Didn't matter what. That's what I'm taking from this. That's all you care about. You wanted a baby and didn't care about anything else. Will do anything. At least Will cares enough to talk about it. That's not true. >> You had It is true. It's exactly true. That's the truth. You got it over your head. You told the lie. I did get in. >> You told Will the lie that you were pregnant. >> And you saw how happy it made him. You wanted to keep him around. >> No, that's not true. >> You thought he was going to leave you. He couldn't give him a baby. >> No, that's not true. >> You knew what you had. [laughter] >> I thought he was going to leave me if I couldn't give him a baby. [laughter] That's Will's perspective, >> right? I bet it's Will's perspective. >> It is. >> I bet. I bet it is. >> And when Will's telling the truth and we find her blood in your apartment? >> Yeah. >> Then you're going to be the one who's telling a lie. >> That's right. Then I'm going to be the one who's telling a lie. Why haven't you found the blood yet? >> Blood is cleaned up, but you can never clean it all up. So, it takes time. and through DNA, >> right? >> So, what am I being charged with? >> How about all the um bloody towels and things that will went and threw away? >> Bloody towels and things. Okay. Okay. Now, I need a lawyer because I don't know what's going on. Okay. Brooklyn Cruz was originally charged in Cass County, North Dakota with conspiracy to commit murder, conspiracy to commit kidnapping, and giving false information to law enforcement in the 2017 death of Savannah Lefontaine Grey. On December 11th, 2017, she pleaded guilty to all three counts. On February 2nd, 2018, she was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole on the murder conspiracy charge, plus 20 years on the kidnapping conspiracy charge and 163 days on the false information charge. As of the most recent verified public reporting, she remains incarcerated serving that life sentence.