All right, just listen to my traffic stop. 10-4. 910 Zebra Ocean William, it's a silver Pontiac. We're 26 10-4. 10-4. Have that return when you get it. 10-4. All right, he's he's running. We're 326 passing the Sharp Place. All right, he's just passing the Sharp Place. He's still running. in the area 4 return 100 mph I hear that. All right, we're going to be in 100 mph 100 mph Dispatch, happy Valley turn speeds. 100 mph Dispatch, turn around 100 mph. 10-4. >> Northbound Northbound on 124. 10-18 10-18 10-4 I almost stopped going northbound on 124. past the uh the 285 What's the name? It's not there. I got it there. 10-4 10-18 10-4 10-18 I was going southbound on 585 Northbound 10-18 10-18 10-4 10-4 I got my 10-18. 10-4 10-18 That's probably why it's 10-4 >> 2649 Speed are 80. I've got no train. Check with the train dispatcher on the yard unit. I'm going to give you 20 minutes. This guy's driving wheel. Speed are 89. He's got no train. You can go ahead and leave, sir. I'm just going to give you 20 minutes. I'm going to give you 20 minutes. I want to see 164. These headed to over. This guy's just going to run on that tag 910220. All right, everything came back all right, man. And the driver should be checked in. It was called by the supervisor 9817. Last four 25. We have to roll over. I'm good. We're going to go over there and do the inspection. Okay, negative. We're going to do the inspection. All right, one second later. 164 is Ranger Luke. >> [music] [music] >> I got to bring him out and drive him to the station. 10-4. >> We're almost at the Tomato Trail on 27. We're taking Clark Road Northbound on 27. Northbound on 27. I need to Goodnight. Goodnight. Goodnight. Goodnight. Goodnight. Goodnight. 24 Northbound on 27. 823 Passing the Tomato Trail on 27. All right, just I know I didn't get that. Give me a minute to laugh here before we start talking anything in this direction. This is the fastest you're going to get there. I'll pass the button now on 29. I'll pass the button on 27. I need you. I got a complaint. Go. Jane, are you out of state on March 27th now? Yeah, are you still on 495? I'll stand by. He's going to Granny Gap. We're probably about to turn northbound. He's headed toward Granny Gap, turning onto 164 north from 27. 19, are you with him? He's headed northbound. He's on Granny Gap, too. He's on Granny Gap, too. I do believe that's Granny Gap. We're on Granny Gap Road. He's headed northbound. All right, he's headed northbound. >> All ready to get on >> [music] >> We're staying on Granny Apple. All right. Got to go to the other side here. Y'all be careful. >> That's a 25 dollar bill that I'm looking at. Uh going down a driveway. Y'all there's a silver car in the road at that driveway. All right, we're taking a bunch of different dirt roads back here. I don't think I'm not sure if these are even roads. 10-4 10-4 I got this one here in the trailer. 10-18 we will be there. 10-18 Uh I lost him back here in these trails. Y'all watch out back there. He might have took a bunch of dirt roads back. 10-20 we are in the back of that group of houses. All right. I got him back here in the back of the I found him. I've got him stuck. He's going to lose his lost his his front bumper. It's real bumpy back here. Got him. Foot down. Foot down. Foot down. HEY, STOP RUNNING. STOP. STOP RUNNING. YOU'RE GOING TO GET TASED. YOU WANT TO GET TASED? STOP RUNNING. STOP RUNNING. 21-36, you 10-4? Car 2 10-4. Yeah, I'm looking at my map. There's a creek that runs back there, sir. He might be trying to get one of those roads leads to the creek. Just three blocks from that one. With the vehicles. 10-4. Copy all that. I am. Yeah, he played it good. He found the car. I just staked it out until he left. Understood. You can un-patch it. He's not as fast as I thought he was going to be. I know. Yeah, running. He was running at me and running at you. Yeah, he was running at me and running at you. I [ __ ] bailed at the house and started running. I thought he bailed at the house cuz he got such a big lead. I was like, "I'm just going to keep going straight and hopefully he did too." Yeah, good thought. I think he you always do. Yeah, I thought I was running and I thought that's him. Just like the other guy. I thought you were running behind him and I thought I got you. I know. I didn't even see that when I was running. Yeah, he he must have pulled it when he was running. Well, he had me boxed in there a little bit. I know. I guess I should have just He was burning coal coming across that bridge. Sweet. All right. Who's this? I have no idea. Do you know who it is? Can you get a hold of him? Uh you [ __ ] uh If your If yours is banged up, put it just put them in mine. Hold on. I'll let you call her in just a second, okay? I'm searching you first. You ain't got no dope on you. I'm going to let you give a call and just stop. We're going to have to get out of here first. I don't know how we're going to get out of here. Yes, when we get to the jail, I'll let you make a personal phone call, okay? When we get Yeah, on your phone, personal phone call. Just because you cooperated with putting the gun down. No, I don't smoke. No. No, I think we're good for now. Yeah. No, the reason I was pulling you over cuz you went over the double yellow twice twice. That was all It was just a It was just a ticket. Dude, I don't No, I don't. Do you Do you know who I am? I've never met you, so I don't know. That's the only reason I was pulling you over. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's your Yeah, that's your fault. Yep. I worked in the jail for only a year. I didn't work in there very long. Even in the woods? That's no fun. What the heck the grass my car automatically stops. Yeah, my car automatically stops if it sees something behind me. I don't know I've never reached it. I think I can turn around right here. Yeah, I see it. That gum it. Come on. Come on. Come on. I was hoping I could find one. I'm just going to go real slow. Uh-huh. I got it right here. Just going to take a I'm just going to go real real slow. Oh, damn. Where did you say it was I'll tell her. Oh, they're already back in the Damn it. You couldn't there was trees, dude. Oh, does it? Yeah. Who lives here your buddy or something some friend? What you've been on the run? Right. How much dope was About a gram? Is that what it is? Well, 1 g is the same as two or three, so it don't matter. I said it again. He's got what? Who? Oh, Leo. He's not even here. Oh, shifty, yeah. Yeah, yeah, they should How many kids you got? Nine kids? Holy. All right. Well, I I just meant total, though. All with different women? What what are you What are your warrants even for that you're running for? Yeah. Mhm. I I I guess it's from Leo got you, right? Mhm. Oh, wait. All right. All right. Yeah, but you're That's all you're running for was criminal trespass? Yeah. Oh, searching? Furnishing? But on that on that paperwork there They said that they filed for a Just got back to my vehicle. I'm not sure what you're talking about. They said down there that we got him till 5:15. My social whatever Facebook Yeah. And they found Uh Criminal drugs, guns, and stolen property. Yeah. And the only people that can do that and you know as well as I do is federal. Is it Yeah. How many years? I got 30 something years. Like total or right now? Like total. Okay. Probably with these it'll add up to more. Uh They don't criminal they don't criminal need help. The first time in the case. Only including the time I got to do with the state first. All right. They enhance my that FDA from three to 30. Okay. >> three to 10, it's three to 30. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like I'm not guilty by association. I know what I thought I wanted you to shoot me but you Why didn't you pull that gun at me? I wanted I wanted you to shoot me. But you didn't. You know what I mean? So you're smart. I know I I'm I don't want to finish my life in prison, bro. But I knew What you know? >> You wasn't going to kill me. Chance of being able to get out and getting shot and me But you don't know that. Well well there it's either you guaranteed die cuz you point the gun at me and I shoot you or there's No. Dude, if I've been to prison I wouldn't be a cop. Listen listen carefully. Bro, I got to do this. I ain't got 30 more years left to [ __ ] You know what I'm saying? Like I'm 41. Go ahead. Is that car stuck in the mud there is car? Hey, your car got stuck. That's why you bailed, right? Uh he said no, it's not stuck. Only reason he stopped and bailed is cuz of the motor blew up in it. I told you I wasn't >> You can't drive it right. Yeah, Kelly said it's not drivable. Right. Well, I I lost you for a second. I'll be There were so many turns and I lost you. Ramped it? Well, what if you ramped in the creek and hit your head on the steering wheel and got knocked out? No one wants to shoot. Do you want to shoot someone? No, I don't want to shoot you. I don't want to shoot anyone. Driving better? I'll tell him you said that next time I see him. Hold on one second. Yeah. I'm glad you told me. I I had no I walked When we went around that corner he drifted into it, but I didn't know anyone was in it. Oh, you're all right. Yeah, I want some You got some quarter change? Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, you can get the dollar. You get the dollar for sure. I'll follow you. I mean, you might have to push it. Uh, I'm not pushing it. >> [laughter] >> I'll go get you, thanks. I had to call my mom and tell her I was Uh, yeah. Got you. So, I've I've been waiting for this for like over an hour. He's going to pull out of the house. I was sitting over there behind I was sitting in the cemetery at Crawford Road for like way back, and he was coming off uh I had Leo sitting there. Some female down the highway straight ahead. Yeah, and then he's off work, so he's going to be up here with me. When he come off of Ennis, he can go with me. I was like, here we go. Crazy. I'm just glad I didn't mess nothing up. I just got this I have 5,000 Yeah, you can go. I'm about to take off. I was just asking her about the kid right here. Okay, then. Okay, you can just call me. You don't have my number, do you? Just my transit. Yeah, that's fine. I guess I'm going to get out of here. Appreciate you. Go home, man. I I wish I was supposed to see you. Yeah, well, I didn't expect you to be where you were. I was like, man, I guess this whole pursuit ended right here cuz he he was going north. I know sometimes you don't you don't go north, sometimes you don't. I actually had work to do. It's simple. Biggest ticket he's ever seen in his life. Well, I'll talk to y'all later. I appreciate it, man. >> No, no. I ain't staying. With the county? I wish I did. I still got a I still got a year before I get another promotion. I'm just a normal deputy right now. Dude, I probably I I'm Dude, I'm going to talk to you man to man. I'm going to let you call your woman. But, I'm I'm just letting you call her but hey, we're going this way, right? Okay. Yeah, I'll let you When we get to the jail and we step out in the sally port, I'll let you call her just cuz cuz you I'm just going to be I'm I worry my man, so. Yeah, I really didn't want to shoot you. I was going to taze you though, but I would I I really didn't want to shoot you. Well, I got to I got I got to see what your warrants are first, so I don't know what they are. How much dope was it? Well, you still got to tell them about it cuz I'm sure they didn't ask you They didn't ask you if you had anything on you? All right. What the How did How did you have a that happen? >> know. They just told me to roll me up, bro. They just told you to roll you up and do the paperwork and let you out? Yeah, my girl had 750 after I went pro, I mean, bond. Mhm. And she just bonded me out. They didn't know I was going to bond I was like, "What the fuck?" I thought it was because they didn't get to shoot me the first time. Man, I've been shot at the last two weeks. Police encounters besides Leo. Like five. Are you Are you with him? Yeah. Like Pope County? Yeah, the [ __ ] cops up here. Oh, really? Yeah. Who Oh, you talk What What >> Officer Jones, whatever his name is. Yeah, he's here. He's right up there. >> Yeah, he He shot at me. All right, give me 1 second. I'll be right back. Kelly. What? Big old thing? The biggest [ __ ] dude. Thing's the size of a dump truck. How bad's the damage on Oh, it's all right. What happened to the car right here? So, you guys want to drive with this car away? Yeah, he like This is a look. He He drifted and hit the car that was right here. >> Oh, he drove it down in there. That J, whatever he's doing there. Oh, that's not as bad as I was thought thinking it was going to be, though. Oh. Okay, bud. Well, that was I heard "Turn right. Turn right." And I'm like, Dude, I didn't know how to tell people where we were at. Oh, that was me. It was him. But I thought J passed it over. I'll be the one to I'll be the one I'll be [laughter] the one to catch up to him and then they're like, "No, it was the next It's right up there. I was like, "Hey, next right. Next I'm glad I I I didn't mess mine up, but I was zooming through there. That But I'm telling you, dude, when you get in that when you get on those, those things take it like I mean, like can't I mean, it's easy and smooth. I got nervous because I thought I thought we were losing you, and so I was like, I thought you were saying next right. I'm like, I don't want any more's time frame to be spread apart. I knew that I knew I just had knew how to He had a gun. I knew he had a gun. He always has dope and a gun every time you get out. Yeah, he does. And I saw where he had >> We had a camera on that [ __ ] tree right there. Oh, right there, yeah. I never been down there, and I was I lost him for probably it was probably like 10 seconds, but in my head it was like 5 10 minutes. I was cuz it was turns all right, left, kept going. I was like, "We're on a dirt road. I'd see him if he turned." So, I just kept going, and eventually I seen him. I tried to tell you it dead-ended down there. There's no way out of there. >> Oh, you know what he told me he was going to do if he if his motor didn't blow up? He said there's a if he would have went straight about another 20 or 30 yd and cut it left and cut it back right, he was going to ramp the he was going to ramp the creek. He said that he He said that he said that dude, that's for real what I was going to do. He said I was going to ramp the creek. I was like, "Well, were you wearing your seatbelt, dumb ass?" Yeah, I said, "Dude, what if you hit your head on the steering wheel?" He was like, "Well, it is what it is." [ __ ] you really wouldn't have gotten in that car in the first place. Oh, I wouldn't have jumped in. I would have just No, I'm saying the [ __ ] his car. >> Oh, his car. His car, yeah. Dude, I fell down going down that hill mountain I think probably like 10 times. Down mountain that Whatever that hillside, yeah. I saw I saw what I lost track I'm yelling at this point for you. I'm like, "I lost track of seeing him." The whole feels like And I don't know where he called me when nobody was answering me while I was screaming. >> I know you can't get out of there. I was screaming, dude. I was like, "He'll be like, he's got a gun." But I couldn't [ __ ] get out. I was like I was just screaming. And I told him I I said, "Dude, if you put the listen, I'll put the gun down. And if you put the gun down, I want you to make a personal phone call." And he put it down. So, I'm I got to When we get to the jail, I told him I'd go and call his mom. Okay. I'm not going to go back on it. I was ready to smoke. I was like, "That's fair for not having to shoot him." I really didn't want to shoot him. I was like praying. I was like, "Please, I don't want >> Dude, you got more restraint than most. I was like he's swinging that [ __ ] around. >> Yeah, well, he was like he was He's like He's like pointing towards the creek. >> Yeah, no, he was like, "I got my gun. I got a gun." He never pointed at me. He pointed at the ground. He was pointing in this direction. But he never he never pointed it me, so Yeah, good. Well, I I could have shot him though. Oh, 100% I would have been I would have been justified to though. Yeah, like I said What? I'm about to leave. I was just coming out. I just wanted to call you. But I go take him to take him to jail. Hey, I guess I don't have your number. Uh, do you want to get it real fast? It's my personal phone. Just Just call me or text me or something. 479 What? Oh, I am. Yeah. 479 747 7880 And that's my personal phone. Chris is my first name. Thomason. I'm going to get out of here, man. Get him down. Start on all this paperwork. All right. You know I could have shot you. I didn't want to shoot you, but I was I was going to if I didn't put All right. All right. I don't know cuz I'm pretty sure we don't even hold absconder in our jail. I don't know though. It changes every day. Like tomorrow we might But they might. I don't know. They don't help me 10 days last time and [ __ ] we were Yeah, most likely it'll be uh AC Fire Lieutenant Lake. Is that what happened last time? Why were you talking to I wasn't causing no problem. I was only there 10 days but the time before I wasn't causing no problem. I don't know what I don't know what to do with I asked him the next day I was sitting up. I didn't get a I didn't get a phone call. I didn't get a kiosk time. I didn't get a shower. From AC? From AC. And then when I went to when they sent me down they sent me to the corner supermax with no no transfer. Like I didn't do nothing. Oh, no transfer. No transfer away from them. Right. Why did you pull the gun? I ain't being aggressive. I wasn't aggressive. Towards you? You wanted to go I could have shot you. I should have I mean that's what I was aiming that's what I was aiming for. There's a lot of people that I wouldn't have did it if if it would have been other people because it would have looked you know what I'm saying? I I'm I'm just saying listen That dude the one that pulled up next to you he would have If had The federal dude There's there's going to be plenty of people telling me that I could have shot you and I I'd have been justified to shoot you. That was that was the whole intent. That's all the reason I got for To shoot you. I know why I seen it. That's why I put it down, brother. Who's your woman? Huh? Who's your woman? Paige McMahon. Paige McMahon? Are you dating Paige? I've stopped her a few times. Yeah, she's good people, man. Where are you from? I'm I'm from Malvern but Where? Malvern. Malvern? I've been here for like 15 years. Have you? I just I just I stay out in the woods, man, in the country. Like I don't know why they pulled up my my name pulled up here. I don't here. I don't know I don't like I ain't did nothing to get it that Well, if you like it's been blowing up, why don't you move? You got This is where all of the kids are. Oh. I got that time. Who's is Paige one of your baby mama? No, no, no, no. Oh. Me and her just got together when her dad died. Right. Me and Courtney was like my best friend. He just died not too long ago, right? Like a year ago? >> Year, year and a half or so. I see she's good. She don't need to worry. I don't know why but my baby mama Kyle ain't tired of me being patient. And when Kyle's being patient Who is it? Kyle, Kyle. Oh, Makayla Dakota. I've I've I've heard that name but I've never seen her. I don't know I don't even know what she looks like. She's She's pretty. She just had her second heart surgery. Heart surgery? How old is she? She's uh 25. 24 actually. What She have something disease? >> Yeah. One of them two of them were valves or were replaced. Right. And then they had to replace another one with a mechanical valve so she can't have no more kids and stuff. So, she's your baby mama? Yeah, Kyle is. And Kyle is my my my mother of my son. That's it. They going to be two years old. I'm going to go pick him up today. I don't I don't ride with him because of the situation. You don't ride with who? My son in the car. Oh, yeah. I either go there and and and see him or she brings him to where I'm at, see? I see. How old are your kids? I've got them from 22 to to five. They all live in Polk County? Yeah, all of them. There's two living in Ybor. >> I had fictitious out of date tags. I figured that's why you pulled me over. I didn't even run your tags. >> Didn't you what? I just seen you cross the double yellow twice, so I I didn't think I swerved. You know what I mean? Yeah, you I you did. >> have been tired. I didn't even run your tags. That's what I thought you did. You know what I mean? Cuz it's it's like out of date uh fictitious. Mhm. You know what I mean? Cuz I can't I can't get one legal. You got to have to have the last one that I I had uh Leo Hold on one second. 36 is correct. 36 I forgot to uh I forgot to I'm not getting it. There I'm I'm putting the bill in the mail. All right, you're worrying me. He said Leo had it impounded. But my love girlfriend was was got until uh had it impounded until I got arrested. All right. How do you know that actually? Well, it depends. We can put a hold on it if you committed a crime. >> I I wouldn't even I wouldn't I wouldn't even in the car. Oh, you weren't? >> No. And it was my girlfriend's car. You know what I'm saying? Is the air on back there? Do you want it on? Yeah, it's I'm not burning up. There. Is it on? Where is it coming from? There should be vents up there. Yeah, it's on. It's on. It's on. Yeah, what what are those working with? Yeah, LG 6 ain't [ __ ] How long did you run it good? Any playing experience I guess. Yeah, you ran it good. Better than anyone else I've traced in the county. I appreciate it, man. I got to take this. I'll be in the comments in a minute. But I mean I'm a car guy. Right. You know what I'm saying? I had a chopped 38. Just a 2017 model. Mhm. Well, I just got a I got a 2023 Durango. So What year is that Pontiac? It's like an '06 or '07. Yeah. I've got a I've got a I've got a bunch of cars. I've got The newest one is I got a Magnum. But it's sitting on a Dodge truck frame. It sits about about the top of these uh doors, the rubbers where the line is. It's a Dodge Magnum. Oh, yeah. I don't know uh truck body on a Dodge truck Mhm. frame. Where is Where you got that at? Uh my my home address. Oh, yeah. You just keep it there? I mean I can drive it. Cuz uh She's licensed. I'm going to lose it. You know what I mean? Right. What would be the start time of this pursuit? It's one of them that uh I can pull a pretty penny off of, you know what I'm saying? Right. I don't know if you sold it. Uh if I sold it for 10-43 Well, you had an El Camino? Yeah, I had an El Camino. I I like I like El Caminos. >> And it's on the top of the frame. Same same setup. Exact model. It's a old like a '70 '72 or '73. Right. Is that the same place as your truck? The what? Yeah. They're all legal. I don't know what you're going through your head. No, I was just I was just asking if you keep them all there, if you trust the guy enough to have an El Camino. Yeah, he's I don't know if I'd trust It'd be hard for me to trust someone with my El Camino if I had one. I love El Caminos. Yeah, he's uh he feels solid. We'll find out now, but you know what I mean? All right. I ain't I ain't doing well. I'll lose everything. Family included, you know what I mean? All right. What started all this here was a simple fist fight. Started what? This here warrants going in. Oh, yeah. How do you get that far? This far. Took one on me. Oh, here? Huh? Back here in Coke County? Yeah. And then and then [ __ ] I would I would walk away from situations any time I was in. Yeah. That day. I could have hit him in the back of the head and walked away from it. All right. That's what I'm saying. That's hard to do. I can't do this [ __ ] Mhm. But it takes me where this all happened, you know? All right. And then they followed me over there. Was that recently or was that Is it 3 years ago? Have you been on the run for 3 years or just two? I don't know. I mean Whenever that happened, I went on the lam. I can't remember. All right. It's like Certainly on the on the run days. Mhm. And I How do you tell us that How do you even get around to eat and stuff? I mean, you're you're on the run, dude. What? >> You know? Yeah. I ain't been I ain't been on this stuff. Oh. I've had many cars. I got to change them up because All right. They got so many people telling them what what I'm driving. They know who the source was.