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chick yeah that's probably what she's
best known for uh that and uh uh you
know being on the cover of uh Forbes
Magazine
um all right so uh the first Connecticut
here awesome good to see you so one of
the first cases that we're going to talk
about and unfortunately this week we
just don't have have a lot of happy
cases but we got to talk about what is
really happening in the world of Law and
police and news and the first case I
want to talk about happened on Wednesday
of this past week the 16th in Los
Angeles County California so there were
a group of police Cadets and just so
everyone knows just so you're familiar
with it when you're in the police
academy you are considered a police
recruit now most police academies are
you know somewhere between four to eight
months when I went through the police
academy it was six months you know
that's a lot of times what the initial
training is in the police academy
somewhere around six months and what's
common back then and even now is almost
every morning you go for a run so as as
police Cadets you get up really really
early in the morning a lot of the time
it's still dark outside you put on
reflective traffic vests you run in
formation everybody has to stay together
and you you know we used to do somewhere
between three to five mile runs they
actually weren't that long but so that
looks like that's what happened on
Wednesday morning so early on Wednesday
morning Los Angeles uh County this
happened in Los Angeles County and there
were essentially recruits from many
different police departments so I think
most of them were from LA County but
they also had you know recruits from
other agencies who were essentially
using the Los Angeles County Police
Department their Academy as a training
ground so there were a total of about 75
police recruits who were running there
were also two marked police cars that
were kind of
as escorting the the 75 of the officers
in training recruit officers who were
running as they were running and this is
captured on surveillance camera video
and it's it's absolutely just a horrific
thing as the officers the officers in
training were running a vehicle came
driving down the wrong way on a one-way
Road and essentially just crashed and
slammed into the entire group of people
um watching the video and listening to
the sheriff uh Villanueva over in L.A
County it seems like the first few
officers were able to see this car
coming towards them and they were able
to jump out of the way however many
officers got struck the last updates
that were hearing that I saw a couple
hours ago is that 25 of the 75 officers
were injured 16 have serious injuries
and some of those in four are actually
still in critical condition right now
and are kind of touch and go
um also it says some of the reporting
that we're getting is that when it comes
to like exactly what are those critical
and serious injuries is that these you
know potential police officers are
facing is that some of them have serious
head trauma they might lose some limbs
arms and legs and these are people who
you know wanted to dedicate their life
become police officers and were in
training to learn how to serve and
protect their community and for someone
to do this it's an absolutely horrific
thing now let's talk about the driver
he's a 22 year old man named Nicholas
Gutierrez and so he was driving the
wrong way on a one-way um he did suffer
minor injuries um but nothing major to
him police officers on scene so luckily
this the one thing that was lucky is
that this happened essentially right in
front of a fire station so um the
firefighters paramedics who were in The
Station were actually able to come out
and assist the officers who were injured
really quickly and probably saved some
lives and save some injuries just
because the response time was so fast
um what also happened is so obviously
after this you know the driver was
detained by police there was an
investigation some of the of the of the
surveillance video that I've seen does
show some of the field sobriety tests
but you know really what we want is body
cam footage to come out to really do a
good analysis but at least what's being
reported is that Mr Gutierrez he passed
the field sobriety test
um they also gave him because there was
a crash with injuries they also did give
him some chemical tests so there was a
breath test that was given that
registered at a .00 so at least at least
there's evidence that he was not
intoxicated
by alcohol however it's also being
reported that there were some evidence
of marijuana use I believe that there
was some marijuana inside of the vehicle
that was being reported as well which it
again so you know federally
um you know you could have issues but
you know California like many states um
it's marijuana is a recreational is a
legal recreational drug now just because
it's a legal recreational drug just like
alcohol you cannot drive while under the
influence of any of these substances so
um what ended up happening is that he
was charged with attempted murder on a
police officer he was charged with those
crimes one of the reasons why is at
least there's some evidence at least
from what the sheriff is saying is
there's some evidence that it was
intentional so what is being reported
and you can kind of see it in the
surveillance video is that he was
traveling approximately 30 miles an hour
and as he approached this group of you
know 75 people he accelerated
um so they're they are taking that as
some type of intent along with whatever
other evidence they might have or
questioning him but they charged him
with uh attempted murder of police
officers
um and his bond was two million dollars
however last night at about 10 pm they
released him they let him go so there's
actually a statute in California that
essentially says that if you charge
someone with homicide or murder or
attempted murder one of these very
serious violent crimes but
you're not but you still want to
continue the investigation there's a way
to keep those charges pending but for
the police department or the Sheriff's
Office to actually release the
individual so that's what they did they
essentially released him last night
um so he's free right now he's released
but the charges are still pending when
questioned about that sheriff
viennaueva said that this is a complex
investigation and that they definitely
right now have enough for probable cause
you know which is the standard for
arrest however they wanted to work
towards and build a solid case uh before
you know he goes back into custody of
having proof Beyond A Reasonable Doubt
so if anything this seems like the
Sheriff's Office and the investigators
aren't just keeping someone in in jail
on an arbitrary basis however they
really want to try to build a case with
actual evidence before they take away Mr
gutierrez's Freedom any more than they
already have I think that's probably the
right thing to do now we have to think
well what other evidence might they be
waiting for we know that there was a
crash we know that there were injuries
if you know if he accelerated as he was
going towards them you know that could
be evidence of the of of of intent of
the of the attempted murder why in the
world what else are they waiting for so
well the sheriff hasn't said but let's
let's look at this a little bit the
couple things that they might be waiting
for are again we have four officers who
are still in critical condition
hopefully not obviously hopefully they
all survive but if one of them does die
from the injuries you know that would be
a more serious charge also and this is
my biggest guess is that they're waiting
for the results of a blood test to see
exactly what if any drugs were in the
system
um because they know that there's no
alcohol a breath alcohol test that can
be administered and those results are
immediate however when it comes to blood
tests for substance tests like marijuana
or prescription dirt drugs or illegal
drugs sometimes that could take days it
could take weeks it could take months
now this is obviously a high profile
case I would not expect this to take
months but yeah getting the blood
results not only could it take weeks but
then to look at what the blood results
are to have someone from uh some type of
a scientific lab
um uh or a scientist be able to say yes
this amount of marijuana or whatever
medication or drug would actually impair
someone so it's possible that those are
the types of that the type of evidence
that they're actually waiting for before
they take him into custody again or they
ramp up the charges against him so we
will keep on that and our thoughts are
going out to all of the officers and
their families who were injured by this
um horrible and just just absolutely
senseless case uh let's see if we have
any have any comments on this case
um
uh no one has let's see uh cue ball says
marijuana stays in your system for a
month LOL yeah Q uh Cube I can't see
yeah that's absolutely correct you're
100 marijuana can stay in your system
for a really long time
um what I what I think what you mean by
that is you know you can do a hair test
or blood test and it'll show traces of
marijuana in your system however I think
there's a way for uh again this is why
it's far more complicated than alcohol
and that's why states have you know when
it comes to driving drunken alcohol the
legal limit is .08 well there is no you
know per se limit or legal limit for
marijuana so that's why you can't just
have 0.08 you are considered to be
intoxicated you're assumed to be
intoxicated per the law that isn't the
case with marijuana you know in in cases
with with drugs driving cases you know
I'm not saying this is the case here but
in other drug driving cases you actually
have to have a scientist a doctor a
chemist to say yes this is the level not
just that was in their system total but
this is what was active in their system
at the time and that amount would
reasonably impair someone to drive a
vehicle so drugged driving cases uh drug
recognition expert cases for those of
you who've gone through that kind of
training uh those are far more
complicated cases uh let's see
um any other
comments about that uh some people's out
are out Loose skunked some people are
out in a few days and others can stick
around for six weeks yeah absolutely the
marijuana it's a different thing it
could stay in people's systems a
different amount of time there's a lot
of different factors and that so it
could be more complicated so my guess is
that the sheriff's office is waiting for
some of that evidence to come in to have
a concrete case again the sheriff said
they definitely have probable cause to
arrest but they're just looking for that
evidence be uh to have solid evidence
that is beyond a reasonable doubt before
they go forward with charges and I'm
never going to criticize a police
department for being a little bit
cautious and making sure that they have
enough evidence to convict someone
before they put someone behind bars I am
totally good with that so that's the
first case that I want to talk about and
again hoping for a quick recovery for
all of those uh potential officers that
has to be has to be absolutely terrible
um next case I want to talk about and
this is this is a strange case you know
just like a lot of a lot of
um cases and this is one where it
happened in Idaho and even now we have
more questions than we have answers so
this was at the University and I of
Idaho and there was an off-campus how
this happened the past week There's an
off-campus house where I believe six
young students all in their early 20s
were living well um earlier this week an
individual we think it was it was just
one individual we're not sure went into
this off-campus residence and stabbed to
death four of these young college
students
um just stabbed them to death that's
what their injuries that's what the
evidence says that their injuries are
that they died of stab wounds there were
two different individuals uh residents
you know um roommates in the house or in
the in the in the residence that weren't
injured at all and here some of the
information that we're getting from
police and you know a lot of times it's
it's the reason why accurate information
from the police doesn't always get to
the public and that's for a couple
reasons first of all the police simply
might not know so if they don't know
they really shouldn't tell us also since
there is no suspect in custody you know
they might sometimes police officers
give false information to the public to
the news media because they're hoping
somehow in the investigation that it's
going to draw out the offender
um also you know they might say things
that they think are true at the moment
but then they could get more evidence
and it ends up not being true so they
have to correct their story so there's a
lot of the end it's kind of like the
telephone game that we've talked about
before so you have stuff that comes from
witnesses to a police officer to the
news media and you know and then even if
accurate information gets to the news
media what's actually getting down to us
is there any spin on that or is there
any politics at play with that at all
anyway so that's why some of the
information in this case seems to be
changing what we know for sure is that
there are four Young dead college
students and at the time there were two
other students residents inside the
house who police are saying we're not
offenders they were not held hostage and
they were not victims themselves of this
in any way which seems strange because
you would think that if someone is being
stabbed there would be you know some
loud noises evidence of of a struggle
that somehow other people inside the
residence you know would hear what's
going on and you know the reason why
that there's some evidence that maybe
they didn't know what's going on is
because all what the police are saying
is that this happens sometime really
late at night like sometime you know
around three o'clock in the morning
however there wasn't a call to police to
come and investigate or um or that
someone you know had been stabbed until
noon the next day so these are just a
lot of questions that we have to do now
is it possible that that the two other
roommates who were there were sleeping
that that they're heavy sleepers that
their rooms are in a far area or in a
different floor of the residence and
that's why they didn't hear anything
sure I mean of course that's possible
what we're hearing from the police
department is that the two other
roommates they actually are cooperating
with police officers
um it does show so the last two of the
end individuals who were who were killed
they are on surveillance camera video
from a food truck at about 1 40 in the
morning and what the business owner who
helped them at the food truck and then
also what's on the evidence what the
police are saying on that video is that
they're actually they don't at least
those two people they ordered some food
and they don't appear to be in distress
in any way shape or form so what
happened you know an hour to an hour and
a half after that is just really just a
mystery
um there's no one in custody and there's
no public suspect at first you know the
reasonable questions that people had are
well are we safe this is a College
Community it's a college town are we
safe so at first the police department
put out a statement where they said you
know that no one is in danger that you
know there's no greater danger to the
public which again when you have four
people stabbed and no suspect in custody
that seems strange to say that no one's
in danger however as of last night the
police department has actually changed
that and they said that yes that
everyone needs to stay vigilant that
there could be a danger to the public my
understanding is that because there's
the Thanksgiving holiday coming up that
a lot of the students who you know go to
school there but live in other places
they've all left the campus and
essentially the campus is like a ghost
town right now um so we will keep
updated on that case because
um uh yeah we need to get someone in
custody for that and hopefully there's
more going on behind the scenes with the
police department one thing that I saw
interesting on this is you know how a
lot of times when these cases happen and
they're unsolved is that you know these
these sleuth detective people who are
not real detectives but you know they're
like internet sleuths where they just
take on these True Crime cases and they
just try to investigate it themselves
um kind of like the Gabby Patito case
and there were others as well
um where you know communities of people
try to get together and do independent
investigations
um apparently that's happening in this
case as well so no matter who solves
this case hopefully we can find the
offender and get them into custody uh
let's read another comment from Lou
skunked this is why it's so difficult to
get marijuana legalized because we are
running into numerous issues with
measuring the volume in a person's body
then we have to create laws around it
not in exact science yeah you are you
are absolutely a hundred percent correct
um yeah which is again why doing doing
uh impaired driving cases at least not
from police officers and from
prosecutors doing an impaired driver
case from the standpoint of someone
being impaired by drugs illegal or
prescription as opposed to alcohol is
just far more difficult and far more
complicated there um yeah and the
science just Ascend the laws just
haven't caught up with marijuana being
legalized but it seems like it's being
legalized everywhere so hopefully those
advances in the scientific and legal
community and in the police world do do
come about because um that's that's
incredibly important
um uh if we're going to have marijuana
legalized which I think it should be
um you know we have to have the really
the only thing we have to have is that
you know along with that is reasonable
laws to make sure that people aren't
driving while they are impaired uh let's
see
Cru let's see uh what happened to my
body my choice uh but the government
should stay out of it yeah so I I let's
take that comment a little bit further I
think we talked about that last week how
you know on a lot of people say my body
my choice but they don't really believe
it you know you have the people on the
left who've been saying my body my
choice forever and the people on the
right kind of mocked them and then when
covid came along and there were vaccine
mandates you had the exact opposite you
had people on the right saying my body
my choice and people on the left mocking
them so um yeah this is this is the the
same kind of thing when it comes to
marijuana you typically have more people
on the left who are saying my body my
choice you shouldn't throw me in a cage
because of what I put in my own body
which I tend to agree with so I guess
where I'm at on this is the the argument
of my body my choice I actually think
it's a convincing argument
um but I believe it when it comes to the
pro-choice stuff when it comes to the
vaccine mandate stuff and when it comes
to marijuana if you are doing something
that isn't hurting someone else
especially like Mary marijuana as long
as you're not driving on it I don't
think the government should throw you in
a cage for consuming a substance let's
see uh Lou Scott one more comment many
folks don't understand that as a lot of
police officers they want marijuana
legalized it'll make our jobs much
easier to not have to enforce these
outdated laws Lou that's a hundred
percent you are absolutely correct like
there are very few if any police
officers who are just all ramped up and
excited about uh enforcing a law that
everybody knows is absolutely ridiculous
no one is excited about that yes so if
marijuana were legalized and police
officers didn't have to deal with it or
mess around with it I believe unless you
work for the DEA or something like that
most police officers uh would not oppose
that because
um what a lot of police officers want is
we actually want they actually want less
laws but more effective laws um you know
so the people who are activating like
actual crime and actually hurting people
yeah we need really tough laws for them
but you know a lot of the ridiculous
laws you know know you probably
shouldn't be calling the police because
your neighbor's trash cans are parked in
front of your driveway or something
right so you know that's how a lot of
police officers think loose I think you
are absolutely correct so the next case
I want to talk about and this is a
little this is going to be police
related maybe on the on the federal
level but it's what happened with FTX
and Sam bankman freed I just wanted to
start off by saying that Sam bankman
freed um you know he was the founder uh
CEO of FTX cryptocurrency and
essentially he went bankrupt uh the
company went bankrupt the filed for
bankruptcy on November 11th and just
about billions and billions of dollars
of customers and investors money just
evaporated evaporated overnight and this
case has a lot of ins and outs so I'm
going to start off by saying that Sam
Harris has a podcast he has a couple
podcasts one of them is called waking up
I really like Sam Harris so if you know
Sam Harris he's the guy who went on Bill
Maher years ago uh where Ben Affleck
called him him a racist for saying that
Islam is just saying that there's a
problem with Islamic terrorism it was
viral millions of views on it anyway so
that's Sam Harris that I've kind of been
following him since then really
interesting guy but he actually had Sam
bankman freed on his podcast about 13
months ago so at the end of 2021 and as
I was listening to as as I was listening
to um or getting ready for this uh the
show today I actually went back and I
listened to that podcast So I listened
to about an hour of Sam bankman free
talking on the Sam Harris podcast so I'm
gonna try to get all of that into about
three minutes here but essentially Sam
bankman freed his he's 29 years old his
parents are Stanford professors you know
he pretty much lived this privileged
life right and he's part of what's
called essential altruism that's the
community that he's a part of so what he
was going around saying and it obviously
this isn't true but what he was going
around saying is that I want to get as
rich as I possibly can and then once I
met rich I I want to give it all away
and that community that thought is
called essential uh essential altruism
EA that's what the community is called
and that's kind of what Sam Harris's
podcast was about but you know in
creating this cryptocurrency uh platform
essentially of what he did with FTX
um you know he was he criticized on the
podcast other cryptocurrency platforms
because they he said that they weren't
ethical that they weren't being
regulated and he made a comment about
yeah sometimes they're losing a million
dollars a day well he just he just lost
billions of dollars for his investors so
essentially this is like the typical
Ponzi scheme this is the best way that I
can explain it a typical Ponzi scheme so
not only did he have FTX cryptocurrency
exchange but he had all these other
companies one of them was called like
Alameda research um I believe he was a
part owner but I think his girlfriend
um was actually the principal owner of
that and what he was doing is this
Alameda company and other companies like
like it we're taking really risky bets
Financial risky bets on different
cryptocurrencies and the way they were
paying for those is money that would
come in through FTX exchange was going
to pay for the risky bets uh from the
Alameda and the other companies uh so
when those risky bets didn't pay off
that's when everything crashed down
what's important to note about Sam
bankman freed is that not not only is he
was he you know up until recently he was
worth at 29 years old he was worth 22
billion dollars six weeks ago so not
that long ago six weeks ago he was on
the cover of Forbes Magazine and he was
called the next Warren Buffett so his
his Fall From Grace is is absolutely
just so quick and so crazy and how no
one caught on it has to be just an
unbelievably suspicious thing he was
also leading up to the midterms the
number two uh the number two contributor
to the Democrat party so he donated 38
million dollars to democrat-run Pax in
order to fund Progressive candidates
after George Soros he was the he was the
the top Democrat donor so the important
question to ask and you know so uh the
way he was getting his money was from
these fraudulent Investments you know
from uh from FTX cryptocurrency exchange
that he was doing strange things in
illegal with seemingly illegal things
with money so the question that I think
we all have to ask is how many Democrat
candidates how many elections how many
of those races were won that were funded
by this fraudulent money uh that that's
an important question to ask now that
the Republicans have control of Congress
hopefully these are some of the
questions that they're going to ask it's
also important to note that within the
last couple months Sam bankman freed he
had private meetings with bought two
different private meetings with Biden's
top advisor uh top advisor in the white
house and he also has done many
different benefits with Bill Clinton uh
so obviously a lot of and so Bill
Clinton let me say he doesn't have a
great track record of um uh talking
about like new uh entrepreneurs and
investors and uh philanthropy people who
are into uh giving to giving to charity
if you think about it Bill Clinton was
was big on Elizabeth Holmes Jeffrey
Epstein and now out Sam bankman free so
the next time that Bill Clinton really
props up some new Young um investor
who's donating a lot of money
um just assume that there's something
Shady behind it because Bill Clinton
doesn't have a great track record so
well now that all these people have lost
I mean billions of dollars just
evaporated this is going to end up being
bigger than Enron that's how much money
is going to end up being lost by
investors and customers more than Enron
so obviously a lot of these people as
soon as they filed bankruptcy you know
obviously attorneys started to file
class action lawsuits and what's
interesting is that they're not just
filing class action lawsuits against Sam
bankman freed and FTX but also a lot of
their sponsors so here's the people who
were essentially doing commercials and
brand ambassadors for FTX Steph Curry
Shaquille O'Neal
um uh Tom Brady Giselle and Larry David
there were there were more but there
were these are the ones uh that who are
being named specifically in the class
action lawsuit uh let's see if we have
any questions or comments on that uh
let's see nope we don't so um yeah so I
think it's just interesting so I know
I'm my guess is that ever is Sam bakeman
Freight he's still free right now he's
living in the Bahamas and he isn't he
isn't in custody right now with anything
but he is
um
uh it's likely that every three letter
agency is going to be descending on him
uh and you would expect some criminal
charges that when billions of dollars
just evaporate that you would assume
that there are some levels of fraud
there you just we have to ask you know
has he already paid off the people who
might be the ones investigating him so
we'll definitely keep on that story
because Sam bankman freeze is probably
going to go down as the biggest con man
in the United States history with how
much money he stole uh so I wanted to
see if there's any comments about Sam
bankman freed in cryptocurrency but I
think it's a it's an important case to
uh to to to to to talk about
um also we had the final sentencing
hearing for Daryl Brooks so Daryl Brooks
we've talked about him a lot on this
case that on this show because he was
the Waukesha mass murderer you know last
year at the Christmas parade in Waukesha
Wisconsin he drove his red Ford SUV for
absolutely no reason into the Christmas
parade he injured 62 killed six
including at least one child he hit uh
members of the the dancing grannies
which people always talk about so he was
convicted a couple weeks ago of all 76
charges so now it came to the sentencing
which was this weekend you know really
the only thing that we were kind of
interested to see what was going to
happen because he was already convicted
is is how the sentencing was going to
play out here's what I mean by that so
there's a couple different ways that
people can be sentenced let's say so I
think Daryl Brooks you know six of the
charges that he faced were life
sentences you know because he killed six
people so each one let's say each life
sentences I don't know let's just say 20
years it's not until you die it's 20 25
30 years so let let's say the life
sentence is 20 years well if you have
six of those you know typically what
what happens is that those are served
concurrently meaning at the same time
meaning you know if you start on
November 20th of 2022 you know all of
those 20-year sentences that you're
going to serve them all at the same time
so in 20 years the individual can get
out you know so whether you have if it's
concurrent whether you have one life
sentence of 20 years or 50 it's the same
20-year block so you do in 20 years
right but what the prosecutors argued
for they argued hey this crime was
absolutely so heinous that it would be
disrespectful to the victims to kind of
lump them all together that's saying
well you know we're just going to give
him the 120 or 25 year sentence that you
know the victims actually deserve more
and the prosecutor asked the judge hate
to show the how heinous this was and how
much the victim's lives actually
mattered the the prosecutor asked that
they be conserved that the sentences be
served consecutively essentially stacked
on top of each other one at a time and
when the judge did the sentence this
week that's exactly what she did she
sentenced him concurrently I'm sorry she
sentenced him consecutively on all these
charges I think it ends up to somewhere
over a thousand years and you know this
was really just a symbolic uh move by
the judge to essentially say this
behavior is not acceptable and this is
what you're going to get for it so Daryl
Brooks said over a thousand years which
um you know I think this is cases like
kids are one good reason to have the
death penalty but if not this is the
absolute next best thing they also had
some of the victims of the victim's
family come and talk at the sentencing
hearing and you know there's one victim
whose mother died in this in this
horrible crash um and you know I think
and I I I'll put a link to the to the
video um in the comments section after
the show but it's really just an
important statement where where he the
his biggest problem besides the fact
that his mother died and one of the
biggest problems he had with Daryl
Brooks and he was very emotional very
emotional about it is he said that at
some point Daryl Brooks during the trial
he said that he had a clear conscience
he had a clear conscience about this and
this gentleman said you are a monster
you are a demon he said how can you have
a clear conscience about what happened
and it was things like that statements
like that from Daryl Brooks not just
what he did but his attitude and the
things that he said about having a clear
conscience and how the court was against
him I think it's things like that that
absolutely 100 factored in to him
getting the the the consecutive
sentences uh let's see um
uh uh Cru says that man was mentally ill
I don't think he was fit to stand trial
uh I think he was nuts when he did it he
had a history yeah so that's a really
good point so he actually did go through
a psychological evaluation to determine
whether or not he's fit to stand trial
and yes Mr Brooks absolutely has mental
illness
um that's another thing I was going to
say is that both his mother and his
grandmother testified um during the
sentencing on his behalf via Zoom I
watched both of those um both of those
testimonies and um neither the mother or
the grandmother were trying to defend
Daryl Brooks or saying was okay what he
did but essentially they talked about
his mental health how how you know he
had uh by bipolar disorder and other
things and you know that was the reason
for that he's not an evil person it's
this mental illness so no I don't think
anyone disputes that Daryl Brooks is
mentally ill but mentally ill is
different from being competent to stand
trial so really all the looking at when
it comes to being competent to stand
trial is do you understand the charges
against you now there's more to it it's
the McNaughton test is what is given
there's different factors to that but
you know base level essentially it's do
you have the capacity to understand the
charges against you so if you understand
the charges against you then you are
competent to stand trial so again the
McNaughton test has a little bit more to
it than that but that's a pretty a
pretty um a one sentence version of what
they're actually of what they're
actually looking for there and he was
and he actually represented himself in
this in this in this case
um he didn't do a great job but even
watching a few minutes and some of the
questions that he was asking and some of
the objections he clearly understood the
charge against him not a legal scholar
but he clearly understood the charge
against him um you know and that's you
know when you when you say that you're
going to be your own attorney and you
know he had to go through hearings in
order to make that happen
um but you know he basically had to
acknowledge knowledge that he's
competent to stand trial not only did he
have to show that he was competent to
stand trial so he made the argument
earlier in the case that he was
competent to stand trial and competent
enough to be his own defense attorney so
um he was confidential even though yes
he absolutely is a hundred percent uh
mentally ill uh let's see any other
comments on that
um
he may have a crafty says he may have
mental illness but not severe enough to
know right from among yeah that's a
really good way to put it do you know
right from wrong can you understand the
charges um that um that you have against
you so yeah I think that's absolutely
correct um you know I I do think that it
was uh I do think that it was the uh uh
right thing to do
um for the judge to find that he was
competent Central now let's say he
wasn't competent to stand trial well
then what what happens then so not being
competent to stand trial if that would
have happened kind of at the beginning
of the case it's not that okay you're
not competent you you go free no no that
isn't what happens if the prosecution
can show that the individual is
dangerous which killing six people and
injuring 62 more that would be pretty
easy to do essentially what would have
happened if he wasn't competencent trial
is he would have gone into some type of
a Mental Health institution
um he would not have been free and he
basically would have been held there
given treatment until he was found
competence now that could be 10 years 20
years 40 years he could be there forever
and then once he was found so just being
found not competent doesn't give you a
get out of jail free card
um you would just have to be in a mental
institution or some other treatment
facility where you know you're
essentially in custody
um it's not jail but and you're there
until you are competent to stand trial
and if you never ever Compton to stand
trial you never get out so um that's you
know essentially what would have
happened now had he made had his defense
spend not reason uh Not Guilty by reason
of of insanity or temporary insanity had
that been the legal theory behind his
defense and then after that if he was
found not guilty by reason of insanity
well then at that point yes absolutely
then he might be able to be free but
that was not his legal defense that was
not the legal strategy um that he
undertook uh let's see uh Cru I'm saying
he was not competent when he ran them
over
um okay so Cru let's let's delve deep
into that a little bit so not competent
when he ran them over so so a couple
pieces of evidence would um basically be
in contrast to that and it's essentially
so if he wasn't confident so once he
crashed into all those people if he just
stopped and he stood there and he waited
for police and you know he was just and
he was confused about what had happened
and didn't know where he was does and he
was having a disassociation where he was
you know up here looking down at his
body driving the car I think we maybe we
can go down that road but no after the
crash what he did is he ran from the
scene and he was actually ringing
people's doorbells trying to get people
to take him inside because he was hiding
from police so he had the in so after he
did the crash after he committed these
crimes he had the he had the knowledge
he had the intent he had the knowledge
that he did something wrong because he
fled and he had the intent to actively
try to get away from police officers so
even though he's mentally ill hundred
percent he's mentally ill he's he's a
crazy person he knew what he did was
wrong because he ran from the scene so I
think it would have been very I think
this is why you know especially like the
initial legal defense just didn't go
with this because it's very easy to see
that in the moments after the crash he
was making conscious decisions to get
away from police officers
um okay so uh moments in trading Lori
day Bell vallo was recently restored
declared competence and trial after two
years of not being confidential
absolutely moments in trading thank you
so much and I I've got to say the Lori
valo case we haven't really covered it
on the show but that's kind of like my
guilty pleasure like I love the Lori
valo kid it's a horrible sad case but
anything that has to do with like
religious maniacs and Cults I just think
it is so interesting so um thank you for
bringing that up I think on the next
show I'll do a recap of the Lori fallow
case because you know me and my wife we
watch 48 hours and 60 minutes and
anytime there's a new show on Lori valo
and Chad day Bell I have to watch it
it's just like it is like uh junk food
for the brain I absolutely think that
case is so interesting uh Cru don't mean
to argue just sharing thoughts I didn't
take it as an argument and I appreciate
the pushback and the thoughts so um
again sometimes I'm not seeing things
correctly and um sometimes there are
definitely subject matter experts um on
the live here who know more than me
about different things so
um I I see are you I absolutely uh
appreciate the back and forth that's the
kind of discussion and debate that I I
really like that I really think is
interesting so um thank you
um so I know that we're getting into uh
Thanksgiving here this week and I hope
that everyone has a hope that everyone
has a good and safe Thanksgiving and you
know one of the things that um one of
the things that you know you have around
Thanksgiving is you know a lot of times
you have some more some down time you
know maybe you're traveling to traveling
to visit family but you know there could
be a little bit of down time so you know
I just want to encourage everyone to you
know try to do something positive go for
a run
read a book reconnect with family and
kids
um if you are interested in reading a
book I just want to give a book
recommendation really quick
um so last week I just finished Andy
knows NGO Angie knows book uh it's
called unmasked it's essentially
essentially Andy no is a journalist who
goes out and he became famous and
Infamous during the during the summer
rise of 2020 he would basically um
document film and take pictures of
antifa um while they were rioting
through the city in destroying towns all
over the country but he was mostly in
the Portland area
um he got beat up and attacked and it
suffered really serious injuries
um you know after he was uh just you
know being a journalist and documenting
a lot of the the terrorism that that
they were doing upon communities out
there
um and you know he's he's uh he's a
journalist he still does this work he
does uh he's written a book about it
it's called unmasked it's really good um
and just one thing about it a lot of
people say that you know well like he's
probably exaggerating like well he has
an agenda he was attacked by these
people so how do we know what he's
saying is true and I I just want to put
out there so there is one chapter in the
book and you know I was thinking that
too as I was reading it I think he's a
really good writer and journalist I've
been following him for a while but I'm
like how much of this stuff is actually
real and then it came to one chapter in
the book where he talks about a couple
years ago you know I think a year and a
half ago two years ago there were
wildfires in California and some people
in the right wing media and in the
mainstream media were blaming antifa
we're saying it was these antifa
terrorists who were you know starting
the starting these Wildfire so Andy Andy
no he did an investigation and he talked
to his sources and he basically came out
the other end and said hey there's no
evidence to this and he went on he went
on the news and he was basically saying
that no we shouldn't blame them for this
so you know kind of what I look at when
when I would see their a commentator or
an author if they say something and if
it's in if it's in direct and if it
hurts their narrative so if it doesn't
help their narrative I think I'm more
likely to believe what they have to say
so the fact that he wrote almost an
entire chapter of how antifa was blamed
for this horrible thing but he's making
the argument don't blame them they
didn't do it we have to be honest I like
that kind of stuff when it comes to
authors and people that I listen to so
um Andy knows unmasked I think it's a
real a real interesting thing to do and
because it's Thanksgiving I just want to
give a couple of ideas to people to you
know in case there isn't enough to argue
about with your crazy uncle Jim at the
dinner table here's a couple things that
you know just to make sure everyone
knows um let's say hang out Adam Golson
objectivity and journalism feels rare
these days it absolutely does Adam thank
you so much I agree 100 but in case
there isn't enough to argue about you
know at the dinner table on Thanksgiving
I just want to throw out a couple
different ideas so um Trump announced
that he was going to run for president
he did that this past week this past
Tuesday so I know a lot of people have
thoughts on that I think that would be
interesting
um the Republicans are going after
Hunter Biden there was a press
conference yesterday where Republican
members in Congress said that they have
some solid evidence from whistleblowers
that um Joe Biden was involved with
Hunter Biden's uh business dealings
while Joe Biden was the vice president
so we'll have to see if there are going
to be any criminal charges from that um
I think it's also fun to do like a
compare and contrast you know who's more
competent Joe Biden or John fetterman
and then whoever wins that let's see
who's more competent them or Herschel
Walker so I think these are fun kind of
games to play also Elon Musk you know
his basically Twitter's been a lot of
people from Twitter have been working
remotely for a really long time and Elon
Musk just came out and essentially said
everybody has to come back to work so a
lot of people are upset and irritated
with that one of the interesting things
that Elon Musk said is that you know
he's like you know in the other
companies I have Tesla and SpaceX he
said there are some people who actually
do work remote he said but it's rare and
it's on a case-by-case basis Elon Musk
said that you know he believes that the
working remotely that that the
communication just isn't as good it's
more difficult he said so you have to be
such an exceptional employee to overcome
that so he said you know this is going
to be an exception for exceptional
people to continue the remote work so a
lot of people are irritated and pissed
off about that um I also want to say
that our country it's not a perfect
country you know uh but we do there are
no racist laws on the books now which is
a good thing and we actually have a lot
to be thankful for I just want to point
to what's happening in Iran so not long
ago in Iran a 16 year old girl was
arrested by police officers because she
violated their insane ridiculous dress
code she was showing too much skin she
was arrested by Iranian police and she
actually 16 year old girl she actually
died in police custody since then there
were all kinds of protests and riots
which is an absolutely great thing
because it seems like some of these
people are kind of waking up that this
you know this religious uh the the these
religious Maniacs who run this country
and impose all these insane laws on us
maybe it's not a good thing um so you
know there were all kinds of protests
over the last couple weeks and months in
Iran and recently the one of the courts
in Iran has found a lot of these people
guilty and sentenced 15 000 of them to
death so whether or not Iran is actually
going to kill 15 000 people or not per
protesters who were out there protesting
this horrible death so if they've
actually sentenced them to death whether
or not it'll happen we'll see I think
the outcry from the International
Community would just be so extreme if
they did this so we'll see but just know
there are places in the world where you
know not everybody does have equal
rights and I just want to point to Iran
so we do have a lot to be thankful about
and with that I'm going to sign off and
um I hope that everyone has a great
happy and safe Thanksgiving and if you
haven't already please make sure you
subscribe to the channel and um have a
good weekend thank you