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right so the first case that we're going
to get into today this is an officer
let's see uh vulc Knight says first I
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sure I would like them to fix that as
well but I think we're going to put in
the chat here in a second maybe some
maybe some info on that for you um so
the first case that we're going to get
into today so this is an officer
involved shooting that happened in
Frederick Maryland and the reason that
we're going to cover this case first is
because the body cam footage just came
out I actually just saw it yesterday so
let me set this up and and so you can
see exactly what happened why police
officers were involved in an
officer-involved shooting in this
particular case so again this is in
Frederick Maryland the individual who is
involved with police officers his name
is Joseph Cheryl and essentially the
reason police officers were even you
know interested in Joseph Cheryl at all
is because he had a felony warrant
outstanding for his arrest for a
probation violation so a lot of times we
talk about lawful objective it's one of
my absolute biggest things when it comes
to do police officers have a lawful
objective to even contact someone
essentially let me ask it another way
what are the police officers trying to
do is it reasonable is it important is
it lawful so is there Reasonable
Suspicion probable cause that Baseline
stuff is so important to me when it
comes to police and citizen interaction
and essentially because when you look at
an officer-involved shooting I am always
so interested in how did this start is
there something that police officers
could have done different should they
have even have been there in the first
place well again this is a situation
where Joseph Cheryl he wasn't stopped
because he had like a tail light out or
some other [ __ ] traffic offense no
he was on probation and he didn't do
something for his probation so he didn't
do something for his probation so a
judge issued a warrant that's a felony
warrant so he had a felony warrant for
his arrest police police officers had
some information not sure exactly where
it was from but police officers had some
information that he was kind of hiding
out at his ex-girlfriend's apartment so
as what reasonable police officers would
do is in order to try to take him into
custody and execute this warrant is to
go to the ex-girlfriend's apartment so
they do that they make contact with the
ex-girlfriend and at first she basically
tells them hey he's not here and she
doesn't let police officers inside
however police officers are able to
convince her after a couple minutes of
conversation that it really is in her
best interest to essentially not Harbor
a felon so they let her know hey he's a
felon he has a warrant so if you're
harboring him or hiding him that's
actually a crime as well so it's not
it's strange for a police officer to
explain to the girlfriend you know
exactly what kind of charges she could
be facing you know if she is harboring a
wanted felon so she does let police
officers into the into the apartment as
soon as officers get into the apartment
they do the right thing they call out
that they are police officers and they
make their intentions known they say you
know Joseph Cheryl we're here please
come out with your hands-free and clear
here no one comes out police officers
you know it's a small apartment it's a
two or three bedroom apartment after a
couple minutes of going through the
residence police officers come to a
bedroom and there's a closet where the
door is open you know a lot of times
people hide you know a lot of people are
good Runners but they're really bad
hiders this is an example of someone not
being a good Hider because it's the
clouds but the closet door is wide open
and Mr Cheryl is is kind of crouched
down with a knife as soon as the police
officer enters the room and kind of goes
around the corner he sees it and he
tells Mr Cheryl immediately to drop the
knife and it's at that point that the
police officer he did the right thing in
this situation because he didn't just
stand there and plot his gun and and
bark commands at Mr Cheryl what he did
is he did give him commands to drop the
knife but he also backed out of the room
so he backed out of the out of out of
the bedroom and basically in into the
living room to where he was essentially
giving Mr Cheryl as much distance in
time as he possibly could in order to
negotiate with Mr Cheryl however during
the Mr Cheryl told police officers I'm
not going back to jail and you're gonna
have to shoot me so police officers
obviously are giving him multiple
commands to drop the knife however he
refuses he doesn't listen he emerges
from the bedroom and he starts running
at police officers with a knife it was
at that point that two different police
officers
fired their weapons at Mr Cheryl and he
was shot and killed he sustained fatal
injuries um the body cam footage of that
just came out today
um to me looking at the body cam footage
um it does appear that it's a a
reasonable and uh officer-involved
shooting that is within the law I did
put up a tick tock video about it
earlier today and you know a lot of the
times almost no matter how Justified an
officer-involved shooting is there's a
lot of people who just don't like police
or really have it in their minds that no
matter what happens they're going to say
the police did the wrong thing and you
know it's got a couple thousand views
because I just put it up and a lot of
comments but so far I don't even have
the normal anti-police activists or
normal people who are opposed to police
who are um giving me given any kind of a
problem about this one almost everyone
is saying they believe this is a
Justified officer-involved shooting so
let's see what some of the what some of
the comments here on this one uh let's
see uh Ivan Ibarra escalation of force
not sure what you mean but um I want to
go ahead and explain that a little bit
it uh let's see interactions are a must
if you comply with law enforcement yeah
so I mean the thing about officer
involved shootings they are almost
always precipitated by two different
things the first is that an individual
commits a crime typically a felony crime
second is when the individual is
contacted by police officers they run
they fight or they attack police
officers it's essentially I mean this is
basically a math problem if you have
those two elements the what's going to
come out on the other side is a much
higher chance that there is going to be
an officer involved shooting but the
good thing is if you don't commit a
felony and then don't run from or attack
police officers your chances of getting
killed by are harmed by a police officer
are virtually zero so it's essentially a
really easy thing to avoid if you want
to uh let's see uh John kitter is
leaving a rude comment but that's okay
boom news says she shouldn't have let
them in the apartment to start with no
matter what yeah boom news that's an
interesting that is an interesting
um
um comment that she shouldn't have let
him in the apartment and yeah I'm mean
you know probably what she should have
done is called her her attorney and then
you know explained what was going on or
the thing to do in the first place so if
you're harboring a felon okay not trying
to give advice to criminals but if
you're harboring a felon and you know
the Felon is in there right and police
are knocking at your door the easiest
thing to do is just don't answer don't
answer the door I mean if they if you
know if they're knocking on your door
they may have an inclination or an
inkling that the individual is inside
the house but they don't know for sure
police aren't psychic you know most
likely didn't have an undercover
detective you know somewhere in the area
watching him go inside the apartment for
hours and hours so yeah so the best
thing to do is probably not open up the
door but once you do and you contact the
police officers and you tell them that
that he's not there well like then you
are pretty much opening up yourself to
possible criminal charges so in the
interest of of of self-preservation yeah
at that point it might it might make
sense just on a self-preservation level
to not to to let the police officers in
but again probably just don't answer the
door in the first place is the most
reasonable thing to do Ivan ibari says
it's just because they follow protocol
it was their life at the time yeah
um absolutely I mean yeah I mean it was
that they really did everything that um
uh yeah I mean really it's they didn't
do anything wrong and that's why I kind
of walked everybody through this case
you know why they were there in the
first place and how they got there and I
kind of went by step through step
because when people criticize police or
have questions about what police did and
people should no matter what your level
of experience or education is when it
comes to policing people should
absolutely 100 ask questions about why
police did certain things and I like
questions or I want people to start
thinking about these cases to break
these cases down into very specific
elements so let's say you have an issue
with well I don't like that I don't like
this officer involved shooting I don't
think it's a good officer involved
shooting okay well why is it the reason
for the stop okay once the officer stop
the individual ran do you have an issue
with that and then I once you can really
just hone in and identify where the
problem is you can then I like I'd like
people to point to there was training
policy or law there was something in
there that would have dictated a
reasonable police officer do something
different that's where I think that
reasonable conversations are in that's
kind of why I like to walk people a
little bit slowly step by step through
these officer-involved shooting cases so
if there is an issue we can pinpoint
exactly what that issue is because the
goal in all this is to make it so that
there's less officer involved shootings
if there's less violence between
citizens and police uh let's see
um uh uh Andrew and Tristan Tate okay
all right um let's see Sergeant George
sometimes you just can't trust trust
Tick Tock I think most of the time you
can't trust Tick Tock however that's
where I have my biggest platform I think
I have 138 000 followers over there so
um I usually I make a lot of videos over
there Ivan says there are situations
where even if she doesn't let him in
they can go in without a warrant
especially when there's a felon that is
is armed inside absolutely 100 percent
Ivan that is absolutely correct and like
I said her best option um if she really
if her goal is to one not get charged
with a crime and to not have her
boyfriend be taken into custody she
probably just shouldn't have opened the
door right all right so that's that that
officer involved shooting um again his
name was uh uh Joseph Cheryl in
Frederick Maryland you can go ahead and
watch the body cam it is all over out
there um here's a case that I want to
talk about and you know this happened on
March 12th of this past year but I
didn't find out about it until St
Patrick's Day so it's kind of a St
Patrick's uh themed themed case so this
is a an incident that happened in
Oklahoma City Oklahoma where a police
officer actually a police captain was
pulled over and arrested for drunk
driving now I'm going to talk about this
case and kind of go through the facts
and some of the weird things that are
involved in this case but drunk driving
DUI DWI that's something that people
have a lot of not just opinions about
but people have all kinds of questions
about so this is one of the few things
in law enforcement that I know a lot
about when it comes to drunk driving and
use of force that's kind of my wheel
head and case law it's kind of my
wheelhouse so I mean you're not going to
ever hear me talk about blood splatter
or spatter or or how to investigate how
do how to investigate fingerprints or a
crime scene or reconstruction of a
traffic crash not my thing but DUI and
use of force that's my thing so if you
have any questions on DUI or comments in
general definitely put it in there and
I'll try to answer questions as we go
through so again this happened on March
12th of this past year and a police
Sergeant with the Oklahoma City Police
Department he was doing his thing
driving around and a car in front of him
is driving all over the place he's
driving wild and the the driving is so
reckless the speeding pretty much
driving on the wrong side of the road
and the driving is so bad and here's how
you know the driving is bad it's because
the sergeant behind the bad driver
didn't even have a chance to run the
license plate so what police officers
normally do is they see a car and if a
car commits a traffic a violation of
traffic code they want to conduct a
traffic stop most police officers will
type in their little computer the
license plate of the car because that
tells them a couple things that says
whether or not the vehicle is stolen
whether it's registered whether it's
insured and a lot of time we'll also say
who the registered owner is it'll say
you know what the address is but it
gives police officers a lot of
information also you can imagine a
situation where dispatch would also want
to know who the who the the police
officer is is going to pull over in case
there is an officer involved shooting or
the driver flees that we have the
information on file I've given you a lot
of reasons why police officers run
license plates before they initiated
traffic's up so if a police officer
conducts a traffic stop before running
the license plate you know something
strange happened well what's happened
here that was strange that the driving
was so bad the police Sergeant behind
the vehicle was really just trying to
catch up to the driver and trying to get
the driver off the road didn't even have
time to run the license plate so um the
officer does eventually catch up the
driver conduct a traffic stop and the
individual who's driving the car pulls
into the the driveway of a residence um
essentially you know this is weird um
and this is always strange for police
officers when this happened as soon as
the car stopped an individual steps out
of the car and he's just kind of
standing there staring at the police
officer now everybody knows that that's
not normal behavior now if it's in the
middle of the day or it's an elderly
driver and you know maybe someone
doesn't see the police lights and you
know every now and then a police officer
conducts the traffic stop and someone
exits and usually it's during the day
because police lights in but they're
generally harder to see during the day
at night it's very obvious if there's
police lights behind you but sometimes
people just like honestly didn't realize
they were being pulled over well let me
tell you what the reaction is to that if
you were stopped by police but didn't
realize it and stopped your car and get
out of the car you get out of your car
and turn around you see a police officer
behind you those people are always
shocked surprised usually apologetic
because they're not trying to do
anything rude or anything strange for
the police officer so when someone steps
out of a kind of traffic stop and that
isn't their reaction meaning they just
stand there and stare at you something's
wrong every police officer knows okay
something is wrong here but that's what
this guy did he got out and he just
stared at the police officer and the
police officer yelled at him to get back
in his car and the guy he starts to you
can tell his words are like slurred and
it's really hard to understand but he
says like I'm I'm and he's not really
making any sense and the police officer
says you're drunk and tells him to get
back inside the car guy gets back inside
the car almost immediately the
individual identifies himself as James
French who is a captain which is a
pretty high rank with the Oklahoma City
Police Department during this context
he's essentially asking for special
treatment multiple times and this is
what's strange about so he knows that
the officer has a body camera rolling
and three different times that I was
able to find during this interaction
Captain James French tells the tells the
sergeant who stopped him to turn off the
body camera but what he does is he kind
of Whispers it he whispers it almost as
if the audio from the body camera isn't
going to pick that up it's really
strange he whispers turn off the body
camera and he points to where the body
camera is on the police officer's chest
and again it's just it just it's just
strange because it's like Whispering
there's a thing catches audio Whispering
isn't going to um do anything to not
catch that on audio uh on the body
camera footage so I think that maybe
goes to his level of intoxication it's
really strange so the police officer
kind of laughs at him and says I'm not
turning off my body camera
um turns out not only is he a captain
with the police department also the city
uh the vehicle that the Mr French is
driving is a city-owned vehicle and the
reason why I say that you know that was
a little bit of a surprise is because
had the officer ran the likes that it
was an undercover vehicle or an unmarked
vehicle so it wasn't a government plate
or anything but had the officer run the
license plate he probably would have
found out that the license plate came
back to the the to the City of Oklahoma
City but he didn't even run the license
plate before he made contact because the
driving was so bad so the police officer
gets him out he runs them through field
sobriety tests and he does terrible on
the field sobriety test he screws up
every single test um as signs of
impairment on every single test so I'm
at the end of it um Captain French asked
you know am I going to be arrested kind
of like he's still wanting some special
treatment like he's thinking that he
that he did well on these tests or
something and he could barely even stand
up at this point so he just did awful on
these standardized field sobriety tests
so um he was arrested he was charged
with DUI um he has resigned from the
Oklahoma City Police Department he was
there for well over 2 20 years the body
cam footage is is pretty ridiculous in
this case especially the part we're kind
of in like a creepy whisper voice he's
asking the police officer to turn off
the body camera footage the sergeant in
this case did everything right did
everything correct um he did not treat
uh Captain French any differently which
was the correct thing to do all right
let's see if we have any uh questions or
comments about this case um
let's see uh oh the irony I mean as a
police officer you stop people who are
drunk and yet the police Sergeant uh
goes against that uh okay
um uh Sergeant George doesn't mean
police captain not police Sergeant my
mistake yeah yeah and this is a strange
thing for a police captain to do I mean
so I really don't have any sympathy for
drunk drivers especially in major cities
especially when people you know have the
means to call an Uber um it's an
unbelievably Reckless and self-selfish
thing to do uh let's see
um
Ivan ibarro Zero Tolerance policy buddy
agree uh let's see Sergeant George has
Captain James French had a done a
massive disservice to his community I
agree I agree uh let's see a boom news
uh let's see before body cams he would
have been let go boom news that's an
interesting question you know
um so that was before I was in law
enforcement but my guess is that you're
correct uh my guess is that in the 80s
and 90s um before I before I was
involved in law enforcement I think that
that's probably the thing that probably
likely happened a lot of the time um I
don't think that happens I don't think
that happens anymore I I don't really
think that happens as much um but your
point about body cameras being a real
deterrent to that I agree with you which
is one of the reasons why I absolutely
love about body cameras um you know a
professional courtesy is is very less
likely to happen when it comes to DUI or
domestic violence or anything like that
when body camera for when body cameras
are rolling I'm a huge advocate for body
cameras all the studies that I've seen
show that approximately 80 cent of
police officers in the United States do
are equipped with body cameras that
should be a hundred percent of police
officers and it's not the fault of the
individual police officer it's the fault
of the politicians who run police
agencies who are not getting them body
cameras um but yeah no boom news that's
a that that is a good point that the
body cameras definitely helped to hold
people accountable both police officers
on duty and police officers who are off
duty may be doing things that are
illegal a huge advocate of body cameras
um so yeah so so let me just talk about
DUI for a second so
um DUI is is is is is is is one of those
things where there are still thousands
of people that are killed every year by
drunk drivers and again it's it's
absolutely just a ridiculous thing and
you know I I police officers and Matt
have done so much to impact DUI and
really get the levels down and make it a
socially unaccepted thing but I've said
this multiple times that that you know
as law enforcement enforcement and
checkpoints all of that is so important
but I honestly believe that the market
that capitalism that Uber and Lyft that
ride share Services have done more to
stop drunk driving than anything that
police officers have done in the last 20
years um so just the availability to
have ride share Services uh the
availability to have Rideshare Services
pick people up and to avoid drunk
driving not everyone takes not everyone
uh takes takes advantage advantages of
those but they they absolutely should
um yeah and you know Uber codes are
being handed out by government agencies
on on big holidays so there's definitely
a media push in the government push to
get people to use these ride share
services and you know it's really when
police departments make it easy for
Rideshare and municipalities and
governments make it easy for uh ride
share Services
um to to operate and and the the
availability of these in major cities is
great uh Brian W says uh we have the
Paul Pelosi rule in California yeah
Brian um so the thing about the Paul
Pelosi case so he was actually charged
um uh it took a long time to get the
body camera footage
um but um he did it did take a long time
to um get the body camera footage and uh
cops and cons
um definitely we do have a few videos of
of police officers and politicians and
being arrested for drunk driving so
definitely go through through our
channel to watch those body camera
videos are always um incredibly
interesting
um Brian W he was kind of charged yeah
you know I mean um yeah he was kind of
charged you know um as much as I would
like to say that Paul Pelosi
um uh got special treatment
um you know what he was arrested and you
know he essentially and so this isn't a
critique of what happened with the Paul
Pelosi case this is just kind of in
general this is what I always say is
that you know governments and police
agencies and courts they don't really
take DUI or DWI that seriously because
first time offenders like Paul Pelosi he
was he was a first-time offender so most
of the time they have to go through
what's called if they plead guilty you
know they have to go through what's
called a first offender program you know
Most states have something similar and
essentially with that is they make you
sit through Mothers Against Drunk
Driving classes they make you take
alcohol tests a lot of times you have to
get one of those interlock devices
installed in your car you have to sit
through Victim Impact panels really they
waste your time for about six months to
a year you know and then that's
basically and if as long as you don't
screw up and you follow all those things
most of the time you're not going to do
any other jail time for a first time DUI
offense so I believe that's what
happened with Paul Pelosi and you know I
think that's pretty normal around around
the country so my criticism isn't that
Paul Pelosi got special treatment he got
the treatment everybody else does and I
don't think that it is it is Harsh
enough uh Sergeant George which is why
nowadays you would see this drive sober
or get pulled over public service
announcements yes absolutely yeah we we
definitely definitely have those
um any other comments about this case uh
let's see
um
yeah no other comments about this case
but uh yeah there was really no no
excuse for this and uh Captain James
French I believe he was pulling into his
mother's house is what he is what he
told the the the the the police officer
um let's see
um
let's see uh when it comes to so the
next case that I'm I'm gonna so so the
next case that I'm going to talk about
is you know this is really something
happened back in 2020 and a lot of
people remember 2020. so 2020 that's
when we had the officer involved fatal
shootings uh officer involved uh uh
fatal uh Linda Branham says any of the
first time classes are very important
it's not a waste of time Linda okay so I
I agree with you so maybe I didn't uh
State my thoughts as articulately as I
would like to so let me rephrase that
Linda what I was saying Linda is that a
lot of people think that a first-time
DWI offender that there should be some
jail time attached because most of these
crimes they do have like a maximum of
364 days in jail or 150 days in jail so
there are Jay there is jail time that is
attached to a first-time drunk driving
case in Most states however most people
don't have to spend time in jail that as
long as you go to these classes which I
agree are important Linda I'm with you
100 I'm not saying they're bad I'm not
saying they're not helpful I think they
are but I guess what I was trying to say
is that as long as you follow
um what you're supposed to do when you
listen to the course and you go to the
classes um it does take up a lot of time
it is extremely time consuming but as
long as you follow that you won't do any
other jail time in Most states so that's
what I was trying to say Linda I do
think the classes are important I also
think that the classes are effective
meaning that you know if you look at all
the research that's done you know the
the the percentage of people who get one
DUI um it's a much lower percentage of
of this pretty small percentage of the
people who get a second DUI after they
take those classes so I do think that
they are important don't think they're
they're they're not the classes are a
waste of time but essentially they eat
up a lot of time um from the offender I
mean that in is in exchange for instead
of having to go to jail all right so
let's talk about 2020. so the reason I
want to talk about the Riots of 2020 is
because two different police departments
I think there's more but this week two
different police departments just did
multi-million dollar settlements with
people who were rioting in the streets
in 2020 let me tell you what happened so
2020 this was a bad year obviously it
was it was covid um Linda thank you so
much I apologize I didn't articulate
that the first time
um so um when it comes to 2020 so this
was the year of not just covet but also
officer-involved shootings I mean a lot
of controversial ones we had we had the
Brianna Taylor shooting we had the
George Floyd case and we had the Jacob
Blake shooting amongst others but you
know really we have these and it was the
George Floyd shooting in on May 25th of
2020 that really set off a lot of the
crime in the riots and you know I was I
was on I was on a panel yesterday
um on a show called before the court on
YouTube that's going to be coming out
sometime and I was on a panel yesterday
with a retired uh Deputy Chief from the
Chicago Police Department and we were
asked the question of you know what's
the worst thing about the George Floyd
um about the George Floyd case and you
know of course of course the loss of
life to the individual that's the most
important but you know when it comes to
society and relationships between police
and the citizens what's the worst thing
like what's the impact of that case and
you know I think the impact of that case
is that from 2019 to 2020 that the
murder rate in the country went up 30
percent thousands of more people died
um because the streets got so much more
violent and I know a lot of people say
well it was because of covid it's not
because of covet so I've looked into the
research and dug into the research on
this and it's not because of covet if
you look at the murder rate of 2019 to
2020 from the beginning of the year
through the end of May
the murder rate was exactly the same
it's pretty much on track from 2019 to
2020 the huge jump the huge Spike came
after May 25th after George Floyd was
killed by police so um you know all of
these riots that were supposedly in the
name of social justice the result is
that thousands of more people died
across the country so that was the
result of of a lot of these a lot of
these rides so just a little bit of of
some of some some statistics about riots
from 2020. so um what we've been able to
find is that there were approximately 8
700 protests during that summer all
around the country of those 800 8700 you
know only there's only a small
percentage that actually turned into you
know riots where there was like
vandalism and crime and but that still
was about
574 riots around the country during that
there were 2 000 police officers that
were injured and of the 140 cities that
were unlucky enough to host one of these
riots they suffered approximately two
billion dollars in property crime uh
damage
um so you know so I went on Twitter the
other day and you know so I saw I'm
gonna get into the settlements here in a
second so
um there was settlements New York police
department and the Philadelphia Police
Department just settled multi-million
dollar lawsuits with individuals who
were rioting and protesting during this
time so I went on Twitter the other day
and I said something to the effect of
police should not use excessive force or
violate civil rights during a riot but
those important concerns must come
secondary to literally preventing a city
from being burned To The Ground by
violent Maniacs stop the Mayhem then
worry about being friendly and that kind
of started this this thread where people
were this started this thread that where
people were also chiming in um someone
said uh firefighters should not worry
about water damage when putting out a
fire and you could see what the other
examples would be
um so you know it's it's what's
frustrating for police officers is that
essentially there's a riot that occurs
politicians who run police departments
essentially send and force police
officers to go and respond to these
riots knowing that the police officers
are outnumbered and then these same
these very politicians they backstab
police officers because instead of
aggressively trying to go after
um the individuals who are protesting
and they were riding in violent fashion
and smashing in Windows instead of you
know advocating for aggressive
prosecution they are meekly setting
settling civil lawsuits with these
people and that is infuriating to a lot
of police officers because no cops like
riots there's no police officer who says
you know what I would like to do on my
day off I would like to get all dressed
up and have just hundreds and dozens of
people just scream and yell at me and
throw soda cans at me that sounds like a
great way to spend my Sunday afternoon
no police officer likes going into rides
they are incredibly irritating annoying
and they are police officers get injured
a lot in these cases I mean you get your
bottles of urine thrown at you and rocks
it it's a terrible thing no cop wants to
do it but police officers have to go and
the same police the same politicians who
are sending them into these situations
where they know that the cops are going
to be outnumbered and it's dangerous
then on the back end they are settling
lawsuits with rioters and people who are
being violent towards police officers so
I just have a question so the 2 000
police officers who were injured not
just physically but also psychologically
from being in these violent and dynamic
situations who can they list as a
defendant in their in their personal
injury lawsuit so if you know definitely
go ahead and put it in the chat let us
know who these police officers can sue
for millions of dollars for being in
this situation
um so again so politicians send police
officers to respond to a riot they're
outnumbered politicians and backstab uh
police police and they settle these
lawsuits um you know essentially these
people come into town and whenever
there's a riot and they treat it like an
antifa Fantasy Camp you know because
these people a lot of them aren't even
from there just looking for a place a
playground to just right into just
really just just expose chaos everywhere
that they possibly can so in specific to
these lawsuits New York Police
Department just settled a six million
dollar lawsuit
um for 320 people who were riding um in
in claim that there was excessive force
used against them and so each individual
is going to get approximately 21
000 the city of Philadelphia just
settled a 9.25 million dollar lawsuit
for 350 people and so at least with the
New York City lawsuit that essentially
everyone who is involved every every
plaintiff who was involved in that case
they're all going to get about twenty
one thousand dollars but the
Philadelphia lawsuit well they're not
going to do that so the 9 million 9.25
million dollars well that's essentially
going to be divvied up basically based
on your victimhood status um again I
just want to say that you know when it
comes to the booking lists of the people
who are arrested during these proceeds
um uh you know there's basically a
geographic tour of of the United United
States so a lot just like there were
protests and riots a cop sitting in in
Atlanta I think there were 23 people who
were arrested only like four of them
were from Atlanta these crazy people
just coming from all out of town because
they see an opportunity to riots and
that's what they're going to do it's
absolutely infuriating all right let's
see what kind of comments we have about
this uh Sergeant George says that 2000
was a rough year it was a rough year uh
let's see
um any other comments questions about
this
um sounds like Linda is going back and
forth with people hey I think everybody
has good intentions there so um I didn't
mind explaining it a little bit a little
bit um um a little bit further Brian W
says officers should sue the cities as
well uh for undergoing uh uh for under
equipping us and throwing us out there
uh with [ __ ] Rules of Engagement Brian W
I agree and listen Brian W here's what I
think is even more infuriating about
this so let's take what's going on in
Austin Texas so so during these riots
Austin Texas you know hundreds of people
they basically took over this bridge
okay pull it and here's the again here's
the thing police officers there's not
independent action it's not like police
officers are on patrolling like hey you
know what there's a bunch of [ __ ]
who are on this bridge let's go [ __ ]
them up let's go really see what we can
do no police leaders who are basically
told what to do by politicians are
saying hey the protesters have taken
over this bridge the rioters have taken
over this bridge go and handle it and
then the police officers have to go
again it's not individual police
officers deciding that they're bored and
they have nothing better to do on a
Sunday evening that they want to just
come into work and throw on their riot
gear no they're told to go there so
they're told to go there they're
outnumbered and basically when police
officers are attacked they're given
certain weapons by the police department
and usually when what happens is the
supervisor who authorizes different
levels of force when different things
happen so I think there are over 20
police officers in Austin who are being
charged right now for using um a less
lethal Munitions against a horde of
hundreds of people who were taking over
a bridge again police officers were told
to go there and handle the situation if
the politicians and the government if
they don't want police officers to
handle the situation if they want to let
these individuals take over the bridge
listen I'm good with that you were
elected run this city however you want
my problem is and Brian W probably
agrees my problem is that when you tell
police officers to go in there and then
expect unrealistic outcomes when you put
police officers outnumbered against
hordes of violent Maniacs let's see um
okay d-dog and Linda are still going
back and forth again I don't think
anyone had bad intentions there I didn't
mind explaining it I think that was my
fault there um anyway so yeah so that's
what's going on with these settlements
it's absolutely frustrating and you know
when it comes to settlements and I did
and I did talk about this last week that
you know the settlements are going in
the other direction too that you know
there were 12 different businesses and
investors um in the Seattle area who
were directly affected by chop Chas
whatever you want to call that horrible
place you know for three weeks you know
basically these Maniacs up and it's set
up an in autonomous Zone um you know a
three block area or I think it's an
eight block area for for three weeks
where no one was allowed to go and
obviously people who lived there were in
businesses were essentially held hostage
by these Maniacs because police officers
in the city wasn't dealing with it so
um there was a lawsuit that was settled
for multi-million dollars um as well I
think it was I think it was around you
know five or six hundred thousand
thousand dollars um for um those
businesses as well so there are some
losses going you know in the direction
of of you know what we would consider
reasonable Brian W oh yeah they bean bag
someone uh if the bean bag I remembered
that correctly yes Brian they Bean
bagged someone and people um did sustain
injuries the thing about the thing about
the bean bags the bean bag shotguns and
what I remember from the Austin cases is
so the bean bags did cause more injury
no one died but they did cause more
injuries in this case than typically you
would expect a bean bag shotgun because
it's a less lethal Force option did
cause more injury and my understanding
in reading the story is that the actual
Munitions the bean bags themselves that
that they were old or defective there
was something wrong with them well
that's not the police officer's fault
the police officers don't come to work
with their own bean bags and pass them
out in briefing or anything like that no
they are given this equipment by the
Austin Police Department to utilize if
the equipment isn't perfect it's not the
fault of the individual police officer
that certainly isn't Criminal from the
individual police officer to me that
sounds like a civil lawsuit that would
affect something with the the people who
are higher up in the city who are in
charge of that not the police officers
who are actually who are on scene just
using the tools they are given by the
city yes so a lot of the so there's
going to be more of these lawsuits that
are set that are settled to me I'm going
to be honest to me it it it's pretty
it's pretty infuriating and again I
don't want police officers to use
excessive force I don't want police
officers to violate anyone's civil
rights but I also don't want cities to
be burned To The Ground by Maniacs I
don't want police cars set on fire I
don't want looting I don't want entire
cities you have people you have good
people in communities who have worked
for years to just establish a good place
to live and to work and to raise kids
and families and you have people coming
in who aren't even from the community
who are just for no reason at all just
coming in and destroying that that is
infuriating and police officers are that
line between Order and Chaos and when
governments and cities give in to these
Maniacs after the fact and settle these
lawsuits I keep using the word
infuriating because that is what it is
Sergeant George says uh 2020 was
definitely a purge season it was uh
let's see Brian W having to use four
sucks comply comply comply please yeah
Brian W I agree 100 that's something
that I say all the time no police
officer wants to use force and yes
individuals should just comply with
police what I mean by that is if you
have a hammer and you are breaking out
windows to a local Wendy store and a
police officer tells you to stop I'm
saying stop no maybe you think that's a
violation of your civil rights that you
have a right to smash in and burn down
that Wendy's restaurant because because
you're mad about that the police did
something thousand miles away but I
would just say you know a police officer
asks you to stop being a maniac stop
being a violent Maniac all right next
case I'm going to talk about this is a
scary case and the police officers I'm
going to talk about here it's the last
two stories I'm going to do and you know
what I like to do on this channel almost
more than anything is to kind of
highlight something the police officers
did good and police officers did bad
it's kind of like the the Ben Shapiro
show where he talks about good Trump bad
Trump you know um so I'm gonna talk
about a case where the police officers
did something you know pretty good and
competent and the last case I'm going to
go over yeah it's not a good thing for
police officers and we absolutely have
to call out if we're going to highlight
good policing when police officers do
good things then yeah if we're going to
be honest about this which we are
because that's what important then we're
also going to talk about cases where
police officers really [ __ ] up all
right so um uh let's see um d-dog agreed
how do you get people to see the side of
the police officer so d-dog you know
what that's a really the officer's
perspective I mean you know d-dog that's
that's a really good question and before
I get into these last two cases I'm
going to answer that question so um I
think in my small way what I try to do
is I try to have honest conversations
with people about controversial issues
and policing that's my main thing so I
started to do social media content uh
probably about a year and a half ago or
so I started on Tick Tock that kind of
took off I think I have 138 000
followers I write articles on sub Stacks
that are shared all all over the place
and you know the reason why I like to do
that isn't because I'm trying to bridge
the gap between citizens and normal
people and police officers and try to
bridge a gap so a lot of people who do
this kind of content that's their thing
as they say and there's nothing wrong
with that that's a great Avenue if
that's what you want to do that's not
what I'm trying to do that's not my
purpose my purpose is to really have
honest conversations about complex about
complex topics and about things that are
just hard to talk about so sometimes a
police officer does something good let's
say it let's say a police officer does
something bad well let's say that too
and then let's go a little bit deeper
let's figure out why did that why did
that happen was it just a bad police
officer or was there some bad training
is there some weird policies or some
strange law and let's really dig down
deep and see exactly why some of these
things are happening because again the
goal at least my goal is I want there to
be less violence between police and
citizens that's what I want so I want to
have honest conversations about these
things and hopefully these honest
conversations and asking these hard
questions d-dog hopefully that'll get to
people to be able to see the officer's
perspective and almost more importantly
I want police officers and people in law
enforcement to be able to see the
perspective on the other side as well a
lot of times I don't have that
perspective so that's why I like to have
conversations and debates and
discussions with people who I don't
agree with I would much rather have a
conversation with someone who I don't
agree with because I want to see as long
as they're honest you know if people are
coming at me and dishonest fashion
they're saying all police are racist
well you can't have a conversation with
those people but you can have honest
conversations with people if the goal
and the incentive is to get to the very
truth so that's what I try to do D dog I
think if you see a piece of content no
matter where it is that you think is
honest about what police officers did
whether it's good or bad share it
especially on social media share that
content comment on it and all the good
and honest content that you see out
there that shows a police officer's
perspective what I would say is just
share it and get it out there as much as
you can let's see Sergeant George
moments like this is exactly why even
though I already mentioned it somewhere
before that if police officers should be
equipped with body cameras uh same can
be said for members of the community
yeah um every everybody has I mean
everybody has has a cell phone so um you
know there's essentially everyone has a
body camera because everyone has a cell
phone everything you do is pretty much
on tape okay now to get to the case
where I think police officers did a good
job and this is a scary case so this
happened in Nashville Tennessee so
here's what happened Nash Tennessee in
the last couple days this was an
absolutely crazy thing there was
surveillance video of an individual 45
year old guy just kind of hanging out
doing his thing at a laundromat an
individual walks into the laundry mat
and he's holding like like a stick it
looks like like a baton it looks like a
baton kind of a weapon and what he does
with that weapon without without warning
without any kind of a dispute between in
between the two individuals you know
they're not arguing about like quarter
or quarters or change machine or using
too much laundry detergents I mean
essentially this guy walked into the
laundromat with this baton and without
warning he just starts bashing this guy
in the head with a baton I'm severely
injured him for almost no reason the
offender flees the scene he wasn't taken
into custody that's a pretty scary thing
so what the Nashville Tennessee Police
Department did almost immediately as
soon as this happened because again it
seems like it's a random attack not that
it's it's better if it's targeted but
it's been you know this from like from
the Idaho murders like if if it's a
husband and a wife or if it's a
boyfriend and a girlfriend or if there's
some connection between the victim and
the offender that doesn't make it any
better for the victim or the victim's
family but at least the community can
say okay there's probably not a danger
to the community this guy just wanted to
kill his wife this girl just wanted to
kill her boyfriend you know the
community in general probably isn't in
danger the idea of just a violent
psychopath running around out there
hitting random people in the head that's
pretty scary because anybody could be a
victim so as soon as this happened
Nashville Tennessee Police Department
did a good job they got the video the
officers and the detectives arriving
saying realize hey this looks like it's
random this this really could be an
issue for the entire Community almost
immediately they put out they put out an
alert to the to the entire city about
what happened and that more almost more
importantly than the alertness they put
out the surveillance camera video they
worked with a private company they got
the surveillance camera video and the
media helped them out and they got it
out to everyone in the Nashville area
within eight hours they had an offender
in custody his name is Kadri Renfrow he
is a a 32 year old man named kadi
k-h-a-d-r-e I don't know
Renfro they got him into custody once he
was in custody this actually wasn't the
first time this happened in the
Nashville area
um in the middle of March so last week
or so there were two other random
beatings that happened in similar
fashion
um where individuals were basically just
beaten with like a baton for no reason
so they were able to connect him to
those three different things so he's
actually um charged with three counts of
attempted criminal homicide um and you
know when things like this happen it's
really not just the police who did a
good job getting someone into custody
pretty quickly but it's also it's also a
partnership with the private company who
not only had that Not only was had the
idea and just they had the surveillance
video but gave it to police officers
quick it's not like they said hey you
know we're we have to check with uh we
have to check with corporate we'll get
back to you here in the next 48 hours
and you'll you'll hear from our lawyers
about the video no this business got the
police office officers the video quick
police officers then immediately got to
the media the media the local media
independent journalists they got it out
quick and they got using that
information and Community tips they got
this guy in custody within eight hours
of the crime occurring which is a good
thing for everyone in the community so
at least after that case of the laundry
mat no one else was injured as far as we
know and they were able to connect this
individual to two other similar crimes
again he's charged with uh three
different uh three different attempted
criminal homicides uh let's see uh oh D
dog really good thank you so much d-dog
Sergeant George this is a terrifying as
a Zodiac Killer if not more so no it
absolutely is these random crimes um
it's absolutely terrifying uh let's see
um Linda Brandon says awesome work nice
work pity yeah that is good work by the
police department also good work from
the it's also great to have it's things
like this again it's the Partnerships
and this is why when I talk about
community policing which I do sometimes
you know the community policing what's
important is the relationships that the
police department can have with private
business and with the media so the the
media should ask police departments
tough questions you know there should be
kind of an adversarial relationship a
lot of the times because it is the job
of the journalist to really get to the
truth of what happened and sometimes
that makes police departments
uncomfortable and that's fine they
should be especially if something
controversial happened but when it comes
down to it when someone is in need when
the police officers need to arrest
someone being able to have that
relationship with the local journalist
to put everything else aside and to just
get this out in front and center that
it's an unbelievable partnership and
that's important for communities to have
uh let's see uh d-dog I was surprised to
learn that Nashville is is actually kind
of a slum yeah Nashville Tennessee
um Tennessee is a pretty violent State I
think Memphis is uh Memphis is is higher
but yeah Nashville
um uh Nash Vegas is definitely a uh uh
of violent a violent city
um okay so the last case that I'm going
to talk about and this is an update from
a case that I mentioned uh I want to say
two weeks ago and um uh Brian W says
truth in journalism what is that well
there is no truth in journalism but when
they get out um important surveillance
video to help police officers out I
appreciate it but yeah aside besides uh
cops and cons TV uh there isn't a whole
lot of Truth in journalism at all all
right uh so this last case that I'll
talk about and this is not good for a
police officer so that makes it even
more important that we have to talk
about I mentioned this case a couple
weeks ago and at the time that I
mentioned it um it was the the D.A let
me get to the case in a minute but at
the time the D.A said that they actually
weren't going to release any
surveillance camera video about this
case until after trial
um it's I like surveillance camera body
camera footage to essentially get out to
the public as quickly as possible so we
all know what happened again body camera
surveillance video it's not perfect it
doesn't show what the police officers I
saw but it gives us a sense of what
happened so this is the case of irvo
irvo otenio in Virginia this happened on
March 6th um so I think you remember the
individual who he had mental health
issues a long criminal history but
believe he was schizophrenic off his
meds the family just has gone in the
media said that they've tried to do
everything they could but you know he's
an individual with schizophrenia he's
off his meds long criminal history he
was um there was a burglary that he was
involved in he was arrested by police
officers during the arrest he assaulted
police officers um he was taken to jail
once in jail
um the the the the the the deputies in
the jail or I'm not sure if it was one
of the doctors or the deputies or the
jail staff they essentially determined
that after a couple days in jail that he
needed more help than the jail was able
to give him which is a good decision so
they wanted to take Mr otenio to a
mental health Psychiatric Hospital which
again that's a good decision that's
where he should be that's pretty much
the last good decision that anyone in
law enforcement made in this particular
case
um so what happened was is in order to
get him into custody
um the the jail staff I mean it took
like 11 or so people
um of the jail staff in order to get him
into custody now he's a big guy he's a
big guy he's over six feet tall I think
he weighs 270 280 pounds so the idea
that it's going to take a lot of people
in order to get him into custody to
transport him to the psychiatric
hospital like that's that's reasonable
we know it's going to take a lot of
people to do that that always looks bad
that always looks ugly but you know
there really isn't any way around it
especially if someone is uncooperative
and yeah he was uncooperative so they
finally get him into custody again it
looks bad but it takes a whole bunch of
them to get him into custody that's not
where I have the issue with though
because we know that's going to happen
when you're that big and that
uncooperative they get him in the van
they transport him to a psychiatric
hospital which is about 50 miles away
once they get hit once they get there
um there are seven deputies with the
sheriff's department and there are three
different hospital workers who are
essentially in the little area where
there's an intake room now at this time
Mr otenio he has handcuffs on and he has
leg Shackles on well he starts to resist
and he starts to resist with the
hospital staff and with the police
officers essentially he's pushed onto
the ground and for approximately 11
minutes not all seven of the deputies
but you know five or so of the deputies
there are he's on the ground he's on his
stomach and we all know what happens
um the police officers are kind of
pushing on his back on his neck on his
lower back and you know after 11 minutes
of this um he dies um
asphyxiation was the cause of death so
what happened is that the D.A has
charged seven deputies and three
Hospital workers with second-degree
murder they're they're all going to be
charged and the reason why I'm bringing
this case back up today is because again
initially the district attorney said
well because this is an ongoing
investigation it's a criminal case we're
going to have jurors we have 10 people
charged we're not going to release any
of the video because it's part of the
case well the D.A um decided that they
were going to reverse that they did
release a surveillance camera video both
of what happened and at the jail of
getting him into custody which again I
don't really have an issue with um and
then what happened at the hospital at
the psychiatric hospital where the where
were the deputies and the hospital staff
were putting pressure on his back while
he was face down now um this is
absolutely unacceptable and and what I'm
going to say about this is that when
someone is uncooperative and police
officers have to use force that always
looks bad that always looks ugly even if
it's lawful reasonable Justified within
training within policy even if we can
check all those boxes and say the cops
couldn't have done anything else I guess
it's ugly it looks bad use of force
never looks good but this was literally
within the bounds of what a reasonable
officer would do so I get that that
happens what's not acceptable is keeping
an individual on their stomach no matter
how bad they are kicking they are
thrashing keeping an individual on their
stomach putting pressure on their neck
on their upper back or lower back for an
extended period of time we know that
that kills people some of the time so I
know that when I went through the police
academy in 2005 I don't remember a whole
lot from that time because it was pretty
stressful but I remember getting tased I
remember getting maced what I don't
remember is anyone talking about a
positional as asphyxiation I don't
remember anyone talking about you know
not putting pressure on someone's back I
don't remember that number maybe it was
part of the training but I don't
remember it but certainly since then
there have been in-service trainings and
we have gotten all kinds of training
about when you have someone like this
even if they're resisting as soon as you
can get them on their side get them on
their side get them to sit up that the
position where someone is face down on
their stomach and you put pressure on
their back that is a recipe for disaster
so this is something that in 2023 there
is literally no excuse for I can't
remember when my when my the police
department I was with I can't remember
when we went through training but it's
certainly been within the last 10 years
we all saw what happened in the George
Floyd case we all saw what happened in
the Tony Timber case there are other
cases out there that are similar to this
that you know I'm sure that if we look
we Google it there's going to be 20 of
these cases that are there but those are
the two main ones so we know this
happens how they're how seven different
police officers and three medical staff
thought that this was okay to keep them
in that position for 11 minutes is
absolutely crazy to me and I'm not
trying to Monday more Monday Morning
Quarterback these police officers were
putting yourself into what would a
reasonable police officer do what would
a reasonable Hospital worker do again if
he's in the intake room and he's kicking
and he's thrashing let's say you have
two different options either all of us
are going to put him on his stomach and
put all of our weight hundreds of pounds
on his back for 11 minutes or you know
what he's in a room he's by himself
we're all gonna leave and let him cool
out and even if he wants to kick and
thrash around the room who gives a [ __ ]
right he's not in the position where
he's going to hurt anyone else except
himself if you have an option of those
two options police officers corrections
officer out there please always take the
option where you leave the person by
themselves in a room and if they destroy
some County property who gives a [ __ ]
this is the last thing that police
officers should do is absolutely insane
I think it's reasonable that some of
them are charged now now am I going to
say that all of them should be charged
well no or I mean so I it there there's
a anyone here correct me if you think
I'm incorrect there's a difference
between being the police officer who is
or the deputy or the the hospital worker
who is literally putting pressure on
someone's upper back for nine and a half
minutes there's a difference between
that dude and someone else who's in the
room but standing off to the side
watching it happen now doesn't mean that
the individual who's standing in the
room and seeing it happen and not
stopping it does that mean they did
nothing wrong no no they probably did
something wrong but the level of should
they be charged with the same crime
second-degree murder no um so I think
we're gonna see that in this case where
we're going to be able to say okay these
four or five people yeah they probably
should be charged with second-degree
murder and these three or four people
yeah okay yeah I get where they where
they they should have stopped it but
it's not it's not the same thing I have
a feeling that's what's going to happen
in this case when we when you look at
the video and please everyone go check
out the video but that's what I think
happened in this case um but again it
doesn't seem like even the ones who
weren't doing it they weren't really
making an effort to stop what was going
on so that is problematic that's
probably criminal second-degree murder
not not sure about that but um uh the
specific charges that's really just
getting into the wheeze and into
semantics on this case I'll be honest
I'm far less concerned with the specific
charges against the police officers I'm
far more horrified about what actually
happened all right um so those are the
cases that we're going to go on today uh
let's see uh if we have any questions
here before we take off Brian W says
great stream hope to catch the next one
stay safe brothers and sisters well
thank you so much uh darkstorm tasers
don't tasers work on 280 pound people
Dark Storm that's a great question thank
you so much for asking yes they do they
should have utilized the taser before
they did what they did uh d-dog how many
people tell officers they can't breathe
in order to get a second chance to
escape a lot a lot doody dog uh that
would be the only justification of not
moving off of him yeah no I think that
absolutely happens um especially after
the George Floyd case where a lot of
people say I can't breathe even when
they can however since everything is on
video
um if someone says um uh if someone says
they can't breathe um believe them at
least roll them over to their side
because this is worst case scenario and
yes incarceritis is a serious condition
that normally affects felons and people
who have committed violent sexual
assaults but always like I said in case
something happens
um it would not only do should police
officers want to preserve life but you
also don't want to be charged with a
crime so if someone says they can't
breathe believe them roll them on their
side do what you can as soon as possible
even if last thing even if you have to
keep them on their stomach for 30
seconds 45 seconds a minute while you're
trying to get them into custody into
handcuffs I get it there's no
justification for 11 minutes and he was
handcuffed and leg Shackled the entire
time all right that's going to be our
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