on July 10th 2024 officers from the calonia police department responded to a park for a male subject later identified as Jessie laying face down on a trail you okay 208 we are out with a male who is talking all right not L chilling this is your bike yes all right you mind if I grab your name uh doesn't matter but I'm okay you like to know who we're talking to that's all we'll get on our way my name is Jessie Jessie J SS e yes what's your last name Pat middle laying like that so the guy freaked out and called no I'm sorry I was just watching uh Wildlife I'm just laying down chilling yes good I'm sorry I wish you would came out over P me or something you live locally here or yes here in reely okay you last name is p a t yes2 what's your zip there in Mount Pleasant 5346 I think it's exceptional no drop the weapon drop the weapon he's got a gun he's got a gun he's got a gun sh fired drop it a shots fired shots fired by the suspect not by police leave meone leave me alone put your hands up do it now put your hands up do it now told you leave me alone anytime show your hands now Put the gun down he's got the gun to his head Put the gun down Put the gun down man let's talk about this can't do that sorry it's like I'm dead man don't do it don't do it man don't just talk to us dude I'm going for my later okay I want detective that's working on a goddamn Cas of my mother Jesse just need you to put the gun down man I just need to talk to that detective what's his name my cell phone sitting over there somewhere D wait can we get a county negotiator out here told you it's not important about my name did why don't you just put the gun down man Put the gun down we'll get you on the phone with that detector don't do it man just put it down you don't want to do it don't I want nothing Jesse show here big deal Put the gun down man please so you want to talk to a detective what else do you want another God damn cigarette yeah you can dude it's not that serious what's the case with your ma what happened to your ma fire I'm sorry to hear that man lost my brother too in the same when did that happen damn it not you guys but just in general right yeah I got you man just trying to mind your business life has a funny fing way of working things out Jesse Jesse keep talking to us man just put the gun down it's going to be all right listen hey talk to me dude hey Jesse smoke another cigarette man going to finish this one and go get a p no now I can't well relax man maybe we can get you some cigarettes if we get you some smokes will you put the gun down and come out and talk to us ni you guys can put the cffs on me there well then tell us what you want what did he say he said something about committing suicide one or the other I I couldn't hear him either I'm going to have you guys shoot me or I'm going to shoot by myself don't do that Jesse man there's no going back don't do it man kind of don't have an option now yeah you do there's always another option nobody stays in jail anymore do you watch the news [ __ ] what you mean what is that serious that you would end your life over you didn't even shoot at us I didn't shoot at you no you didn't thank you for not doing that that's why years right that means something you guys are that means something you know what I mean you guys got good families and [ __ ] and I appreciate that F can you just put it down and come out can I sit up slowly if you down you can sit up slowly just put the gun down moves my direction yeah I know that I know it so put the gun down and then sit up slowly can you do that at least we can't even run after you if you put it down there's no way we could even get to you okay sit up go ahead we're trying to talk him down he put the gun down he's sitting up talking to us now Jesse I've never met you man I don't know what your p is I don't know what life circumstances have you in but this is not the way to do things man you don't have a choice yeah you do there's always a choice NOP you could have killed both of us and you didn't you guys don't that was a choice man you don't deserve it I appreciate that but I don't think you deserve to shoot yourself yes I do what what could you have possibly done that was so bad I killed my mother how' you do that you me talk to the damn Detective is that what this is all about well I'm not any trained negotiator all right I know I know what is that what the warrants for most likely all right I can't go back to prison end in its life lost my [ __ ] man were you living out here that's the [ __ ] up part man dude I got some things and everything else man to the family now I can't now I can't what were you trying to do stay alive for a few more days but now I can't now I can't cuz somebody didn't mind your own business I mean that's now I can't and of course if I would have gave you fake name you would have been like ah no you're not cool what's your real name and it would have continued correct yeah either way goes we are here now and today is today today I die and there's no joke it's already been part of the plan a whole idea anyway it is what it is this shit's going to hurt this [ __ ] sucks doesn't have to man shit's going to hurt this [ __ ] so I'm not going to prison for the rest of my life that over my dumb ass mind that [ __ ] nope uhuh ain't happening well well it is what it is it is a good day to die I just wish I had another cigarette and I already know you guys ain't remember half the damn [ __ ] that I'm telling you anyways that's I wanted to talk to the damn detective who is the detective there you can all work that out man once we get this resolved oh yeah open My Dead Body yes I know yes I get it absolutely 100% not reaching for the gun thank you all right Jesse this is detective Zac officer gon Jessie Jessie he's got he's got a gun on his left side I don't know yeah exactly we're just trying to hear him out okay let's hear you out boss no sh you'll make it quick yes so basically you guys will make it quick a lot better we're here to talk to you man we're here to talk to you yes I tell you these two guys were perfect okay so what's your mom's name you said so I'll I'll I'll fill him in just keep your hands where you where we can see him he admitted to killing his mother okay who he said okay and then he burned the house down with her the officer that's here said he's going to tell talk to him about it okay I'm I'm telling him right now Jesse so he came I I think he knows that he's wanted for that so he's he was just chilling out here okay and uh yeah he popped off a shot I thanked him for not shooting us cuz he had the drop on us and uh on his uh on his left side he want I really wish he would have brought those New Ports cuz he really wants a cigarette Jesse I have uh some dip would you like some of that no it's any sort of Ni man there it's uh nicotine salts I want I want to talk to the detective so he knows what I why I'm doing this why it's going on hey so he knows okay is this in relation to the house fire in the city a couple days ago what was that 100% okay so that's down in the city Jesse okay I work for Caladonia perfect okay that's not you do you want us to get a city officer or a City detective over here here where in the hell is he we're we're in Caledonia right now we can get a city city I know we're in calonia right now but where is he we can you would you like us to call for one the detective that's working is my phone's sitting right on over there do you happen to know what his name is Jesse I remember okay it's all right so let's work through it see we got one two the uh so let let us call our dispatch and we'll get a hold of that detective can we can we do that for you can we get a hold of that detective for you that's where his his gun is on that side his gun is on that side he's already threatened to use us to kill him don't do it man I know you're thinking I know the wheels are turning don't do that no option we there is we can get a hold of that detective for you no no option but there is an option you can stay alive for your kids dude they're perfectly fine dude the baby moms are awful they don't need me yeah they do every kid needs his dad there's always step daddies and everything else in between them no no no I got a stepdad I got a real dad there's still something about get my license I can't no 100% uh-uh that's up I already know yes the only thing that your kids know is Criminal ass [ __ ] is because of me they know about guns because of me they know how to steal because of me I'm nothing but evil man yes yes I don't believe that it's 100% true the only thing that they got for me is that they got to respect their mother my mother [ __ ] up what contradicting [ __ ] is that Ain that up yeah it is it is it really is told you man it's going to end one way or the other I really don't want to hurt none of you guys cuz I love you guys man for real well we don't want to hurt you and everything else I know as soon as I reach for that you guys you got to pump [ __ ] ton of lead of me perfect I don't want to hurt you not none of us do and I don't want to hurt you either I know you don't and I want to hurt myself though that's the problem that's the contradiction of the [ __ ] I was hoping be like some other day man tomorrow something man maybe I had a full pack of smokes at least a half pack huh no [ __ ] no [ __ ] he doesn't know the name no [ __ ] sucks when I have [Music] my I'm not going back to prison I'm be 100% honest with you I'm not going back I've been informed sitting right side so Jesse we're working on getting a hold of that detective for you okay my statement down before I die you're not going to die today oh I'm going to die today oh yes 100% I'm going to die today oh yeah 100% I just want my statement done with itive see and then I'm done okay 100% 100 [ __ ] he might as be out without even me knowing it to be honest with you take me the out cuz it's going to ask 100% well we don't want to do that I know you guys don't want to unfortunately going to have I'm going to pick up this gun and I'm going point it at then you're going to really have to yes we don't want it to get to that point [Music] oh going straight to my head don't I will you know what I'm saying I won't shoot at you I've been honest with you yes yes yes all right I will not shoot at you but I will shoot myself yes 100% okay 100% okay you guys got beautiful families everything else I don't know you guys you guys are not a part of this [ __ ] unfortunately somebody call the godamn I'm happy that you dead I'm not dead yo I kind of wish I was now [ __ ] you know hey Noe that P going straight to my I'm blow my own up that's all that's going down to it I was trying to find a pie of spot and everything else yes this is a peaceful spot I agree with you this is gorgeous is I love the wood man you a hunter a man [ __ ] Boy Scout capap everything else in between yeah you a you a deer hunter man 30 F6 308 man you know who that is I believe so I believe it is familiar he's the one that's got your your investigation you want to talk to him good you know who I'm talking about sure let's run it you want to talk to him that g you going to be able to yell it do that yeah yep or come forward away from the gun and I can throw the phone to you you're going to have to come away from that gun though I ain't going over there with no phone I'm trying to work with you here I can get n on the line right now not only I are close friends you got to make the decision though I know but I still want to die that we we we can figure that out after but you you need to make this statement have you talked to him yet know right right I know I get it I get it I get it I get it I get it I get it you know I can hear him C clear as day right what's that talking it echoes like a prison you see the Tall Grass over there anyways you guys wouldn't know nothing about the jail sales and prison [ __ ] right I'm not going back now I don't have no other gun on me just oh there is it okay where to God no reason to lie don't reach in your pockets what what's in your pocket don't reach in what are you reaching for I'm grabbing a crack pipe I can't have a cigarette well that's not I'll be 100% honest with you I believe you but that's not going to help this and we can't have you go reaching in your pockets you want me to pull off my underwear and drop it out not my underwear the only weapon I got on me sitting right here yes 100% please unn I haven't bullshitted you guys any part of any you you've gave us zero reason to not trust you but at the same time we don't know what's in your pockets okay that's that's the whole thing [Music] that's like I said you you haven't given us reason not to trust and we've been doing as much as we can to work with you right is that fair go okay yeah sure you have yeah other you're okay now I hear them yelling they're just talking over there it's just us handling you right now y i communication with them at all you could stand up Jesse it's all right look dude tell them to stop leavee what are they doing that's pissing you off I only see his left hand from this position his hands are not open we do not know if his hands are okay that's a sniper all right they're watching our backs okay that's all for us all right that's not you guys so guess what you're going to blow my [ __ ] brains apart and not you guys I don't I'm only assuming lift your shirt up and show us you ain't got nothing in there he's opening up in shirt yep he's just parting what they're saying y turn just turn three there you go okay keep going a 360 can you spin in a 360 Jesse thank you thank you Jess tell aiver is watching him that he's just pulling stuff out of his pockets he might be wanting to smoke some crack right now but he's promising that he's not going for his gun which is by his foot left foot okay I Dro my knife yes yes sir okay now look careful now Y no get the away from me is that your crack pipe and crack don't don't drop it right there cuz that's going to be right next to your gun man taking a back this is it yes let me get a hit goe cigarette I'm hit this [ __ ] then before we end it yes yes s s sit away from that gun can you just stand and do it no I got a bading hip all right I can't get surgery or anything else cuz the insurance sucks I hear that Jesse we got [ __ ] Insurance to I know my heart but I'm happy we got them guys out here they going to make it fast and quick yes I can hear everything that they're talking about tell shut the up well so they're relaying it to everybody else too holy well it's like a 10sec delay yeah how you that yeah holy [ __ ] but I can hear in livetime well they're saying we're getting new radio soon so hopefully that improves yeah well you guys are awesome thank you I appreciate you guys well we appreciate you working with us Jesse I thank you um yeah I'm not going back to prison though you guys just waiting right no we're waiting for those cigarettes for you no waiting for the smokes it took a while for us to get back here in the first place you guys are just you guys are just waiting I'm taking up you guys the time once time I'm inconvenient you guys no you're not that's what we're here for lot of people now I got all you guys awesome hey Jesse's off Jesse we got a couple of buddies of mine they're coming up here they want to talk to you off so I'm just letting you know Jesse you listening I got a couple of buddies coming up they want to talk to you that's just I'm just letting you know so you don't get freaked out that a couple new people are joining our party here they're good guys I know them they just want to talk to you and they they're better than they're better at talking than I am that's all hey Jesse we're working on those smokes in a phone okay hey so I'm probably going to have to walk those up to you Jesse well I don't want to get very close is there any way like when they get here you can just take a couple of steps away from the thing we're worried about and then I can toss them to you I'm not going to get close do you trust me all right then I trust you hey you didn't shoot me so that's a pretty big you could have put one in my brain dude like I'm you got to go home I don't even know you no I would say that's a good reason to trust you Jesse that you could have done something really terrible and you didn't I appreciate that very much then I'm not going okay be truthful all right well they got a couple of guys bring your smokes all right I don't know how long it's going to take but I'm just letting you know they're coming I know my phone blowing up right now I know you guys hear it yeah we want you to answer it but you need to cooperate with us Jesse we want you to be we want you to be safe the goddamn pH if I cooperate with you we want you to be safe I'll be putting cops right away and I won't be able to answer the got cigarett he's not talking about his kids he doesn't want to talk about his kids I give you a phone and cigarettes right yeah hey Jesse I'm will what's that I do I do how about you all right they're talking to them now okay are you guys going to hang out for a minute and then back out of there uh if that's what you guys want us to do uh yeah probably I be back off you can hear me Ortiz should be up there he's the one that's not talking okay him in on some of the high points because going to carry on coaching with Will okay so I suppose you can hang up with us once you've given a little bit of pass on high points low points anything that he said anything that's bothered him that you guys have said okay and then uh you guys can back out and uh let me uh check I would check in with your command and see what they want you to do at that point okay back out of the situation all right sounds good all right thanks a lot Ser y yeah all right bye what up I asked you if you served you said you seen I got service yeah I can hear it did you no he said he likes the military and the police so can I get you a phone over there with a cigarette okay and he he had us both dead rights he so I mean there's got you I can get it about halfway to you that way you can come grab it hey we're going to get the robot we're going to give him the phone and we're going to give him a pack of cigarettes it's just going to take a little bit what's that Jesse I can tell him that if you want no we can we can okay okay so the robot we're trying to get the robot up here okay it'll be the th phone on there and then hey Jesse Jesse we're going to get a robot up here to deliver your cigarettes okay it's just going to take us some time that you don't want to cigarette i't going to be able to throw that far half okay military brch yes yeah Marine Corps you are not of water some thank you Jesse I'm not afraid of you hurt me I'm just worried about you I'm going to hurt myself yes and I don't want that to happen Jesse I'm going to hurt myself yes there is no it it is what it is another Jesse we don't want that to happen ended another Jess you we're going to work on getting you them cigarettes me no I'm just a deputy yes no I service service yes I was in the Marine Corps yes there you go yep yes what do they say what do they say you want your cigarettes no wa for the UR yeah we are up by back right now Seer are you talking about Seer going keep do that bud if we just put one in the case with the phone I mean you can we got to do something hey Jesse Jesse we got we got a hard case here that has a cigarette in it [ __ ] okay right I got I got what Jesse hey Jessie half and half Jesse half hollow point half SL hey look what you want Jesse we got a cigarette here we're going to get it to you phonee to him get more more Noe we're going to we're going to put it in this hard case Jesse we're going to put it in this hard case Jesse yes I didn't see any Jesse look right here Jesse right here you see this case yeah that's you suggested it you see this case I'm put the cigarette inside of it well how many how many do you need put two on there I'll give you a couple would a couple work what do that you your too much well we want we got to work this out together we just can't I can't give you a whole pack gets up yeah we're okay we should probably let just hold so we're going to light them up yeah just give me a we're going to get this case out to you Jesse has two cigarettes in it robot no it's not it's just a hard case it has a phone in it it just has a phone in it Jesse and your two cigarettes okay we're going to throw it out to you okay so don't throw yet no no no Jesse we're not doing anything [ __ ] me no not literally hey hey we're not out here for that Jesse I know that yeah SP on it before you do yeah yeah hey that HW T please [Music] no you son Jesse ain't nobody creeping on you you son [ __ ] no I know what you're doing nope we're not doing anything Jesse Jesse the only thing we're trying to do is get you the cigarettes on the phone so now it's up to me yes nope now I don't have to reach Jesse we're not doing anything like that have to reach we're here to talk to you we wouldn't have come out here to talk to you if that's what our plan was all right we're here to talk to you we want work this out with you all right so and we're C positive he doesn't have his gun on him at all we're as positive as we can be so the thing is is if we throw that he picks up the gun and he's going to walk towards that phone we're not going to be we're not going to shoot him with left leth we're going to let him grab the phone and cigarettes and we're going to go back to negotiation all right want to cross in the phone got let them guys go so did you hear that said hey they're going to try to toss the phone now right they're going to try to toss the phone now so it looks like there's a little bit of a cck right in front of them just so you guys know what's that it looks like there's a little bit of a cck right in front of them don't yeah it's it's it goes down a little bit you you kind of want to throw left don't you okay Jessie Jessie you want you want those cigarettes hey Jessie try lethal if he doesn't pick up the gun okay you're going to try to hit him with less lethal if he doesn't pick up the gun obviously if it's the other way see where it goes the weeds are tall Jesse Jesse look J you want them cigarettes you can't flank one from the right you got Jesse There ain't nobody flanking look Jesse Jesse right here here's your cigarette [Music] look holy [ __ ] that's the phone with the cigarette hey you got it you want me to you got it do it do it impact impact CE fire CE fire shots fired shots fired suspect down suspect down no injuries no cop injuries you good put your other hand up one person show us your other hand everybody okay everybody's good over here we're good I'm I'm good let me see your right hand let me see your right hand I got somebody want another Shield he over here y y hey you got them all to your right hold on hold on on the right blue on the right we got time blue coming in careful [Music] [Applause] moving moving a little bit I need clarification from that drone he has in his hand move over did he not pick it up yeah I didn't see him grabbing yeah he was going for it but he never on the ground I can slow slow slow you got that prick watch your [Music] feet hey watch the [Music] the going he's coming he's right here m i fired myle